There’s no argument for Steph when it comes to point guards lmaoo . And it’s not crazy this happens basically every decade it’s regular

Magic is better than Curry and it’s a long shot. Magic has another ring and another MVP. Also 4x assists leader and 2x steals leader. Also Magic has a couple All NBA selections and all star appearances over Curry.

@@B345T1N355Official he did this in less years as well lol he played 12 years pre virus

@@B345T1N355Official Crazy thing was that he averaged over 11 assist in 5 of the seasons he didn't get assists leader 💀

@@B345T1N355Official curry still has quite a career to go. He leaps and bounds better of a scorer and arguably the best offensive player of all time being the greatest system of all time. There not one player in nba history that makes it easier for their team then steph. All u need for a good steph offense to work is a decent play maker. Well with magic u need elite scorers next to him

Or people like you just like to label characters and people in general as problematic. Walter white only did what he needed to do

@@shugapro3060 That's exactly the opposite of what I'm doing, in reality everyone is flawed and there are no heroes and villains, everyone just thinks they're doing what they have to do. That doesn't make you good or bad, it just makes you human, and it's that humanity that lets people think Walter is a good person when he's evil and the whole point of the show it to highlight how you can do evil while following a good moral goal.

What

Facts. I think the word Rusty was looking for was anti villain lol

Agreed

personally 1. timmy 2. the greek freak(has better accolades than dirk and kg already at 27) 3. kg(the wolves fucked his career but still was great) 4. dirk daddy(greatest chip in history and is a top 10 scorer of all time) 5. karl malone(even though i fucking hate this pedo he still was pretty solid hopefully someone claims his spot)

@@spaghettisauce445 perfect list

No one can argue w those 5. Tim at 1 tho is untouchable agreed as well.

This is a great take But barring injury Giannis will end up a top 5-10 player all time and will end up passing Tim when it’s all said and over

Fax

Still 2 behind Magic

Kd is compared to every skinny nba player

Kd ? U mean kg ?

hes not a pf?

@@yeahrell kg hasn’t done more than kd lmao it’s pretty equal

@@JustAguy25548 hell no Giannis got 1 more mvp than Giannis and 1 more legit ring

@@ave204 wat are u talking about

I mean if he keeps going on the lace that he is maybe wins 3 rings 3 finals mvp and another mvp he could pass Tim

He's the most complete pf tbh

Tim isen’t untouchable Tim was an all time defender but not so great offensively Giannis is the best help defender ever and drops 30 every night he will 100% be the best PF ever and for now he is 100% second

@@daan8702 best help defender is a stretch. His strength is defensive versatility as a whole. He can do everything on defense at an elite level but he’s not the best at any nuanced part of defense.

the disrespect shown to KG with this take is outrageous, Giannis is nowhere close yet to KG, besides he has the luck of beeing in a good team from the start while KG had to deal with the TWolves, and as we all know, they suck as an organization and despite that KG was a beast everytime he was on court, Giannis is currently nr5 imo and has the potential to be nr2 but so far its Duncan KG Chuck Dirk and only then Giannis, hell one could argue Malone over him at this point, but at his career's end he might well end up nr.2 of all time

Creepy yet wholesome

Common Karl Malone L 😂

1 KG is not better than Dirk 2 Gianni’s is not better than Dirk and Gianni’s 3 Karl is better than chuck

@@ACLA23 1. Kg has a dpoy and dirk doesn't. 2. Charles better

@@ACLA23 also giannis better than both kg and dirk.

@@strongbone9471 love people who only accolade count and can’t comprehend nuance. It immediately tells me whose a casual

Karl Malone(fuck this guy) longevity puts him over Giannis for me personally. He is 3rd in all time scoring after all. That longevity matters especially since Giannis only have 5 years in his resume.

It’s so crazy that a lot of y’all just ignore bob Pettit but whatever.

@@TheIcemanthomas That’s pretty funny. I was about to add him, but then thought that no one would care so I didn’t. You’ve proven me wrong. Still ain’t better than Giannis though

Giannis is not #2 . He's number 5 at the highest. Malones stats are better than Giannis and his longevity and has more accolades than Giannis. Kg, dirk, Charles all have better longevity stats and accolades than Giannis. Giannis only 27 wayy too long not enough years under his belt to be better than those other goat power forwards. Duncan is light years ahead of everyone

@@TheIcemanthomas im better than him and im 6ft

How could trae be a better team defender when has he ever shown the capability to be a good defender 😂😂

@@professionalmeatbeater6983 do you know what a team defender is?

@@OffTopicKamah he doesn’t but he did think that comment was the one💀

@@OffTopicKamah no I’m just randomly talking about something I don’t know. Yes obviously

@@justsomedudewithnoneck8329 what did I say that was wrong 😂

Cannot assist better than KG

KG once finished top 7 in total assists in 2003. For comparison, Giannis never even reached top 30. Oh, KG is doing this when his team is shooting 42-43%fg and his center bricking 7 straight open layups (referring to Olowakandi shooting 30%fg against the Lakers in 04 WCF).

KG is still better at shooting, defense, passing, and overall playmaking. There are so many factors that goes into championships and accolades that they shouldn't matter that much. Individual play matters more.

@@disthymia6929 yeah individual play matters, rings matter as well. The gap between all the points you made for KG are arguably and are not much of a difference from Giannis. It’s so little of a difference where you’d have to debate accolades at this point and Giannis has better accolades than KG. Not to mention better stats, better team records(though KG did have bad rosters), and one of the greatest(arguably the greatest) finals series and performance ever. All this at a much younger age than KG as well. The only thing that KG has over Giannis is longevity(which I believe shouldn’t be held in this standard when Giannis has such a resume already) and Giannis is sure to pass that, but peak wise Giannis is arguably better(I personally think so) and with a better resume. KG is great, but I believe Giannis has surpassed him.

Tim Duncan is the greatest power forward of all time. He doesn't have shooting but he makes his team better just being out on the court. If gannis can win 4 more rings then he will be better

@Raymond Sims Because he played in the "plumbers and fireman era", he also shot 44% fg hes career. Lastly he is nowhere as skilled as those legends.

Malone is definitely top 3 as of now. tf is dis. Dirk is only better because of a ring.

@@PlayboyOGuapo still better though, though I do believe it shouldn’t be an argument that Malone is better than Barkley at least

@Raymond Sims You’re on fucking crack if you think the power forward that shot 43% from the field is better than Giannis, Malone, Dirk, or KG. Lmfaooo Bob Petit shouldn’t even be in this conversation over guys like McHale, AD, or Elvin Hayes, stop overrating 50s-70s players least talented eras ever and an era where they 8 teams max, let’s be realistic please.

I have Malone over Barkley because the mailman was consistent for so long. Accolades aside both Dirk and the Big Ticket were instrumental in changing the PF position to what it is today

Nah he's 2 he has accomplished more than all power forwards except Tim Duncan and did it in less time.

@@StFigarlandGarling Giannis has 2 MVps, DPOY, DPOY and Finals MVP and that's better than all those things. Can you win a title as the best player? that's the question. Most of these guys did not.

@@StFigarlandGarling Yeah you can't discredit that..at the same time..most people will agree that that era was very weak and that's why putting Malone over him will also make sense- but let's forget about Championships and accolades for a minute. Malone was never the best player in NBA like Giannis.

@@StFigarlandGarling he wasn't second too..Giannis defense give him the edge over so many of these guys except Tim. KG was great on defense but not close to Giannis on offense.

@@StFigarlandGarling Hakeem is was better. Giannis dominates like Shaq. Marlone never dominated like Shaq. David Robinson has an argument. Charles Barkley too. Marlone was definitely top 5 though I think. But he wasn't an MVP and DPOY candidate like Giannis

No. Giannis is entering year 10 in the league. Look what Tim did in just his first 10 years in the league. You can not just look at stats. You have consider the era. Slow paced basketball, less spacing, the number of other elite big-man in that era etc. The margin between Tim and other power forwards is bigger than you think and I don´t think Giannis will ever catch him unless he has LeBron like second half of the career.

What the hell you smoking 🚬 no no no “stay off the weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed” nah he is not better than Tim Duncan and is he hesitant to say he’s better than dirk or KG right now but he’s close

@@frantisekbulbulbul884 Giannis is a better scorer per 36 and per 100 possessions, has a DPOY, the finals gamescore record, a 50pt chip clincher, 2 MVPs, and is a way better playmaker. That's why I said Timmy has the career argument. The only thing separating them is Timmy being on one of the best teams of all time. Giannis as an individual is better.

@@t-god2439 If you don't think Giannis is already miles ahead of Dirk or KG as an individual then idk what to tell you. That's just a bad take and makes the rest of your probably fair point look foolish.

Tbh they are not comparable. Giannis plays an evolved position in an evolved NBA. Tim Duncan never has the role as point guard on the Spurs. Ranking players from different eras and positions is pointless

i mean its clearly giannis is the better player

bro the entire sport of basketball is about seeing whos better, whos the better team thats gonna win this game? Whos the better star player on each team? Why are you complaining that fans of something thats all about seeing who or whats better, are now comparing to see who are the better players lmao, we enjoy these guy's greatness and we wanna see how this guy's greatness matches up with another guy's greatness lmao

@@hatim289 no, its actually insanely close lmao. Giannis is a clear better scorer KG is a better defender and rebounder even though giannis is insanely good at both Theyre true shooting% is basically the same but kg has the advantage of being a better shooter, his game had a lot of decently long ranged midgame shots and he isnt easily punishable by a hack-a-shaq like giannis, kg at his best had alot of 80% free throw seasons, giannis could only dream of getting close to that. and we cant just ignore how giannis is playing in a way faster pace game compared to kg so that means he has more opportunity to get more stats

Where does Tim Duncan fall in this argument?

@@roderickmoore1280 he is undisputed no.1 PF

How many reg season mvps does Dirk have? how many DPOY? How many all NBA defensive team selections? You ignoring half of the game (defence) just goes to show how little you really know about basketball.

Giannis has twice as many mvps as Dirk. Giannis has a dpoy Giannis has way more defensive selection Last year giannis finished second all time in per for a season, behind jokic. Giannis won a ring at a way earlier age. Giannis dropped 50 in the finals.

Like you said, is too soon to give him that ranking, but it is what it is with the recency bias, Friendly reminder that people wanted to shove down our throats that AD was more talented than Tim 😆 To even compare those 2 dudes...

Dirk at two?? What about KG??

Dirk not two regardless of where you put Giannis dummy.

25/10/5 is a bad performance for giannis…people expect him to drop 40-50 every night

I second this.

Kevin mchale too

The only list that makes sense. Kg clearly underrated tho i believe i got him 2nd still. Giannis just needs a little longer career to pass him imo.

@@trips963 why hasnt giannis passed him now?

@@akindeleakinola6590 simply because of longevity Giannis just needs 4 more all nba seasons and then he'll pass him

Do u have the source to back that up?

@@TheIcemanthomas I’m a Wolves fan and thus watched many of the games.

but i think we can all agree we rather have giannas than davis. and honestly i don’t think tim can take giannas, tim ain’t flexible enough. unless you think tim can beat wilt then yeah i’ll give you tim over giannas

@@user-uf6wx5zb4b of course I'll take giannis over davis. However we really shouldn't be making these claims because if recency bias. Tim Duncan won a championship in what his 3rd year in the league. It is way to early to determine if giannis will pass him. He has 1 championship, can giannis be number 2? Yes cause Dirk and KGs case isnt strong enough but he has a long way to go before he can even catch up to Tim.

We know that Breaking Bad is lowkey a western series influenced by Sergio Leone

Yes it is a hot take look at Duncan in 03 his second best player was Parker who averaged 15 ppg on 40% shooting from the field and the year before that speedy Claxton was his best teammate despite that Duncan only lost to the eventual champions but outscored kobe and Shaq individually Duncan also got better during the playoffs kg really didn't for most of his career

@@Sqeaky6969 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/obKqd8WizcWvZJ8.html

@@Sqeaky6969 You can say a bunch of stuff, it doesn’t make it true Duncan Chips (best teams)
 ’99 - Lockout season, with David Robinson even though declining was still the freakin admiral a top 50 All Time player and deep spurs team. That team tanked the year before they drafted Duncan because Robinson missed the 96-97 season only playing 6 games. The season before that, the last full Robinson season before drafting Duncan, that Spurs team went 59-23 and finished 2nd in the Wester conference. So Duncan began his career with a high caliber team.

 ’03’05’07 - Parker and Ginobili and deep spurs squad. Don’t let the low scoring output fool you, Parker was clutch and was cooking fools in his day.

 ’14 Ginobli Parker and Emerging Kawhi and another deep Spurs squad. KGs best pre Boston team the 03 Wolves featured the corpse of Sam Cassell, Latrell “choke my coach/not enough money to feed my family” Sprewell, and Wally Szerbiak. 

 Then there’s the Spurs got THE COACH (HOF), proven system, and history of developing players and finding talent with late picks making the playoffs 22 straight seasons. 

 The wolves on the other hand are notoriously one of the worst franchises (passed on Steph Curry TWICE for two other PGs, loads of other poor draft choices) making the playoffs a whopping 10 times in their 33 years history, 8 of which were carried on the back of KG. 

 So yea, that’s not just a bunch of stuff, those are facts.

That’s crazy

Wait....you have KG over Tim Duncan how?

@@RIPToriyamaDBZ Duncan obviously has the better career, but I believe KG is the better overall player. That said, he's my favorite player of all time so I'm obviously biased.

@@disthymia6929 Obviously

@@disthymia6929 kg indeed is a better player than Duncan but giannis is better than both

You are severely underrating KGs offense. Kg had a better jump shot for one. And if they had let him just run through people like they let Giannis, he would’ve averaged 30+ in his prime lol. And no mention of Tim Duncan?? Basketball is more than running over people and dunking (Giannis should be fouled out of almost every game if they actually called charging on him) Duncan was a better player in every almost any way you can split than Giannis.

@@DWS205 There's a reason I didn't mention Duncan, he's obviously number 1. Also Shaq was more aggressive than Giannis and he got away with it in KGs era. KG is number 3 but to discount Giannis as 'running through people' proves you're a casual. Giannis game 6 finals last year is better than any game KG ever played.

@@Matt-vi8bf that’s fair. Definitely not a casual.

No, his defence is beyond trash and he will never win a ring the way he is right now. Although, if he enters a team, unlike the hawks, that can carry his bony ass defensively then he might win one. Like a 5% chance still.

@@northover6015 Ratio

1 more ring and he’s debatablely top 10. i would put giannas over bird

@@user-uf6wx5zb4b if you pu5 him over bird, you put him over magic too according to Lebron and MJ.

Giannis has average footwork. Less than average shooting and passing. Giannis doesn't have nearly the same resume as Tim Duncan. Hakeem played Center.

C41Ł extremely bad take

He literally only had accolades over Dirk and Kg. Dirk and Kg have everything else