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Have you ever asked any of these questions?
Is Rookidee a regional bird?
Is Corvisquire a regional bird?
Is Corviknight a regional bird?
Is Cramorant a regional bird?
Is Bombirdier a regional bird?
Is Flamigo a regional bird?
Is Pidgey a regional bird?
Is Pidgeotto a regional bird?
Is Pidgeot a regional bird?
Is Spearow a regional bird?
Is Fearow a regional bird?
Is Farfetch'd a regional bird?
Is Doduo a regional bird?
Is Dodrio a regional bird?
Is Articuno a regional bird?
Is Zapdos a regional bird?
Is Moltres a regional bird?
Is Hoothoot a regional bird?
Is Noctowl a regional bird?
Is Natu a regional bird?
Is Xatu a regional bird?
Is Murkrow a regional bird?
Is Delibird a regional bird?
Is Skarmory a regional bird?
Is Ho-Oh a regional bird?
Is Taillow a regional bird?
Is Swellow a regional bird?
Is Wingull a regional bird?
Is Pelipper a regional bird?
Is Swablu a regional bird?
Is Altaria a regional bird?
Is Starly a regional bird?
Is Staravia a regional bird?
Is Staraptor a regional bird?
Is Honchkrow a regional bird?
Is Chatot a regional bird?
Is Pidove a regional bird?
Is Tranquill a regional bird?
Is Unfezant a regional bird?
Is Archen a regional bird?
Is Archeops a regional bird?
Is Ducklett a regional bird?
Is Swanna a regional bird?
Is Rufflet a regional bird?
Is Braviary a regional bird?
Is Vullaby a regional bird?
Is Mandibuzz a regional bird?
Is Fletchling a regional bird?
Is Fletchinder a regional bird?
Is Talonflame a regional bird?
Is Hawlucha a regional bird?
Is Yveltal a regional bird?
Is Rowlet a regional bird?
Is Dartrix a regional bird?
Is Decidueye a regional bird?
Is Pikipek a regional bird?
Is Trumbeak a regional bird?
Is Toucannon a regional bird?
Is Oricorio a regional bird?
Is Squawkabilly a regional bird?
Is Wattrel a regional bird?
Is Kilowattrel a regional bird?
If so, then this video should hopefully help you find the answer!
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@kodytiffany5686 10 ай бұрын

What about move pools or abilities? you never mentioned it so not sure if that helps tighten the term or not? For instance were Ferrow or Peliper ever not useless competitively. I was always under the impression that Regional birds shared an affinity for having nearly identical sets of abilities or move pools. Maybe a good stat move at best but otherwise pointless since other pokemon do what they did better. Let me know what you think.

@bobuxgamer13 10 ай бұрын

I highly doubt you're seeing this, but I have a small suggestion. I have really bad Insectophobia and Aracnaphobia (and also afraid of things that are really disturbing in general,) and was wondering; whenever you post a video with anything that many people find disturbing, I would highly appreciate if you made a copy of the video without the bugs, creepy things, etc. You don't have to, but I sometimes find my self clicking off your videos because of all the bugs.

@kodytiffany5686 10 ай бұрын

@@bobuxgamer13 I do not like spiders either but I am fine with those on a show or video. I grew up watching scary movies so they rarely scare me. But IRL needles no thank you. Whats the scariest/creepiest show you have seen that you completed watching? To me it was Hostel by a long ways. way to possible it creeped me out.

@Niall_Sene 10 ай бұрын

I've always thought of the regional bird Pokemon as that iconic early route/early game bird Pokemon found in each region.

@plompedu 10 ай бұрын

@@OtakuUnitedStudioTbf, any gen 1 is iconic

@itsturniptime3699 10 ай бұрын

@@plompeduI love *checking notes* Pinsir

@GravityIsFalling 10 ай бұрын

@@plompedu Yeah like seal 🦭

@PoisonFlower765 10 ай бұрын

@@itsturniptime3699Pinsir _is_ iconic dafuq?

@PurplesttCoffee 10 ай бұрын

@@itsturniptime3699In the gen that has Dewgong and Seaking, your first thought for "pokemon that people don't care about" was Pinsir? The one that got a mega evolution???

@Starriaaa 10 ай бұрын

The theory of both Peliper and Swellow being regional birds makes sense considering Gen 3 is also the only region to also have 2 pseudos

@RyugaruSenbi 10 ай бұрын

Exactly. One for the land and one for the sea. Gen 3 also has 2 evil teams, one for the land and one for the sea

@miink1861 10 ай бұрын

And two champions, steel/rock and water.

@webbowser8834 10 ай бұрын

I'm perfectly a-ok with including Wingull and Spearow as regional birds. Also most of the regional birds have relatively low BSTs

@beanman6969 9 ай бұрын

And two pikaclones

@superflameking03 10 ай бұрын

I like to think of "Regional Birds" as the first non starter birds in the dex of new Pokémon that evolve at least once. This would make it Pidgey, Hoothoot, Taillow, Starly, Pidove, Fletchling, Pikipek, Rookidee, and Wattrel. I also like to think of closely related birds like Spearow or Wingull as Secondary Regional Birds.

@mco7478 10 ай бұрын

Exactly what my definition looked like

@perchinchatot 9 ай бұрын

8:12 is a personal attack on me and I'm not OK with that

@alexandercolefield9523 10 ай бұрын

I've always thought of it as Spearow is competing for Pidgey for the role of common bird, while Wingull inhabitants the ocean while Tailow the land for Hoenn.

@cornonjacob 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, that matches the whole plot of Hoenn being land vs sea, plus gen 3 already has lots of pairs of Pokemon: plusle and minun, Volbeat and illumise, zangoose and seviper, 2 Pseudos, lunatone and solrock, why not win gull and taillow as well?

@RyugaruSenbi 10 ай бұрын

Which fits the theme of land vs sea. Hoenn also has two antagonistic teams. Land vs Sea.

@JonnySpec 10 ай бұрын

And in Gen 2, Pidgey was the common bird during the daytime, while Hoothoot was the common bird at night. Yes, Pidgey is a Gen 1 bird, but it was still really common in Gen 2.

@venus_the_flytrap6318 10 ай бұрын

I never thought about the definition of regional bird this much. I just kinda accepted that some pokemon just were.

@shachargold6896 10 ай бұрын

It is funny how Lockstin's thought process is basically how the new definition for planet was produced to to disqualify Pluto (and the other four currently recognized dwarf planets)

@lassesgamekanaal 10 ай бұрын

Poor Pluto, always getting the short end of the stick, literally.

@lucalopez9604 10 ай бұрын

I mean, Pluto is better off as a dwarf planet, it doesn't really work like the other 8 ones and has more similarities to the asteroids in the Kuiper belt. (that said, the 4 rocky planets are also very different from the 4 gaseous ones so at the end of the day planet is still very broad)

@anthonynguyen1289 10 ай бұрын

Honestly it would be weirder to have to include the other dwarf planets as planets instead of just going down to 8 planets.

@mattwo7 10 ай бұрын

The alternative term "Early Bird" is easier to understand because all these birds appear early into each game they debut in, early into the regional pokedex they debut in, they evolve at fairly low levels -and can have the "early bird" ability.- Wait no that is also confusing.

@theactualashley 10 ай бұрын

I never really thought about it, but Pelipper should 100% be a regional bird. Hoenn’s whole thing is “land vs sea” so having a bird to represent each biome is insanely fitting. Im tempted to include spearow too, but Pelipper just seems perfect to me

@BadCandyStudios 10 ай бұрын

You could just say that Kanto and Hoenn have two regional birds like Hoenn also has two pseudos. Feels a little weird, but Spearow and Wingull definitely meet most of the criteria.

@SwordOfBlueThunder 10 ай бұрын

I mean yes, but the difference in connotation kinda makes it hard to do so. Pseudo is a term of power whereas Regional X (being it rodent, bird, etc) is much more related to identity more than anything else

@PKMNResearcherSkyler 10 ай бұрын

That's what I was thinking. They're just the secondary regional birds of their respective regions

@aaronolson6736 10 ай бұрын

@@SwordOfBlueThunderLechonk has also just flipped that from rodent to simply normal-type

@xabierarana2645 10 ай бұрын

@@aaronolson6736 nope, racoons (zigzagoon), rabbits (bunnelby) and mongoses (yungoos) are not rodents either. I also was very surprised when i tried to design a regional rodent myself and found that nearly half of them are not really rodents.

@blakdeth 10 ай бұрын

This makes sense. Afterall regional bugs tend to come in pairs. So why not birds?

@jekfrumstotferm9830 10 ай бұрын

I always thought of it as being the first bird Pokémon in the Pokedex that evolves and wasn’t already part of some other group (that clause is for Rowlet specifically).

@Kostyurik 10 ай бұрын

Sad Torchic, Piplup and Quaxly noises

@skylark1024 10 ай бұрын

@@Kostyurik Well, being starters, their BST is 530, so they are better anyway

@jaschabull2365 10 ай бұрын

And torchic and piplup, don't forget torchic and piplup. (or forget that being flying type is a necessary condition for being a regional bird, I guess, as that's something that applies to rowlet but not to torchic and piplup).

@AncientSkullKid 10 ай бұрын

Found in the wild. Eliminates starters.

@tankerwife2001 10 ай бұрын

sadly squawkabilly is first in the paldean dex, before wattrel

@hollowknightdale4120 10 ай бұрын

It makes sense for Pelipper and Swellow both be regional birds because it's also the region to also have 2 Pikachu clones (Plusle and Minun) and 2 Psuedo Legendaries (Metagross and Salamence)

@Iceycube1404 10 ай бұрын

And two evil teams

@pedroviniciuspreiswelter4710 10 ай бұрын

Two Legendary Trios; Two Roaming Legendaries; Two Mythical; Two Champions;

@ronielbernardo3124 10 ай бұрын

This helps the theory that gen 3 is the second game of the series and gen 2 was just a sort of dlc to gen 1.

@amandaslough125 10 ай бұрын

@@ronielbernardo3124 Yes and no. Gen 2 is a weird case. Game Freak was struggling HARD to develop it. So much so they were struggling to fit it on the cartridge, and were actually going to cancel production altogether because they weren't going to get it released anywhere near on time. That's not good whatsoever, for a large company to straight up cancel a game. So Iwata came over, and like a saint, optimized the game code so much, he made enough room to a) finish the game and b) fit the entirety of Kanto on the cartridge. Thus Gen 2 came out like it did. They reused so much of Kanto to pad out what they could in the time left.

@mariotheundying 10 ай бұрын

@@amandaslough125 man, rip Iwata

@MidnyteSketch 10 ай бұрын

I think about it in a similar way to the Regional Rodents that Rattata started. You can just kind of tell that certain mons were designed specifically to fit this niche, to capture the same feeling that Pidgey had as a reliable party member that most players will pick on their first playthrough and keep through the whole story. While others like Fearow and Pelliper feel like the alternate option when you're ready to try something different for a change.

@MauroGinestel 10 ай бұрын

Also, if you pay attention to Pokemon's video "1008 encounters" every mon is grouped around a theme, e.g. the video starts with the starter Pokemon of every gen, and around 0:39 seconds you see all the regional birds together, i.e Pidgey, Hoothoot, Taillow, Starly, Pidove, Fletchling, Pikipek and Rookidee

@FixTheWi-Fi 10 ай бұрын

so they've officially recognised the grouping even if not the term.

@pokechatter 10 ай бұрын

Killowatrel is still up in the air then.

@MauroGinestel 10 ай бұрын

@@pokechatter yes and no. The thing is, Wattrel family is not in the grouping but because the video presents every single pokemon just before revealing the Paldea dex (as the video is a promotion for SV). If it wasn't the case I think it would have been included

@lilboygthorns7373 10 ай бұрын

@@FixTheWi-Fir they just see it as arbitrary, as they included swablu instead of tailow on the regional birds slide in the Aim to Be a Pokémon Master JP credits sequence

@juanderijillo 10 ай бұрын

@@lilboygthorns7373this is very niche pick and the anime sometimes.contradicts the games

@Awesome54356 10 ай бұрын

I guess I’ve always just kinda assumed one regional bird per region, but wingull really does fit huh

@lilboygthorns7373 10 ай бұрын

Pokémon said otherwise, and for some reason the Hoenn regional bird is altaria according to the ATBAPM JP credits sequence

@RiannaPeterson 10 ай бұрын

If you limit it to one per region, then Pidgey does fit better than Spearow... But Tailow only fit better than Wingull because at one point people thought it had to be normal/flying, but now that that isn't the case Wingull retroactively fits better, which I really don't like I guess I've just always thought of Tailow as the regional bird 🤷

@omegaXjammur 10 ай бұрын

Pertaining to Swellow and Pelipper, gen 3 has a lot of duality going on. Swellow thrives on land and Pelipper thrives in the sea. Could be safe to say that they are both the regional birds, similar to how plusle and minun are pika clones

@SephStuff 10 ай бұрын

I definitely think Wingull counts - the early Hoenn dex is all thematic or version exclusive duos. The “regional bug” has a split evolution, the early normal type has a dark type counterpart, the early three stage grass types are version exclusives. Swellow and Pelipper go together

@elfilin-to6dh 10 ай бұрын

It's also the only region with two Pseudo-Legendaries

@Bintaro 10 ай бұрын

This is why I follow you: in-depth discussion of the seemingly most innocuous Pokemon trivialities

@thatsabruhmoment17 10 ай бұрын

Now that you think about it, pelipper does deserve to be the regional bird more than swellow. It's just introduced during the time where regional birds still had to be normal/flying for the fans to count it as one

@NoizZy_ 10 ай бұрын

hell yeah! Justice for Wingull!

@brutalnobody5240 10 ай бұрын

You simply don't get it early enough

@aaronolson6736 10 ай бұрын

Even out performs Swellow since gen6, Swellow got more Stat points sure but Pelliper got Drizzle.

@kaibadlover 10 ай бұрын

I felt it needed to count here too & thought people just did as well but it seems most don't. I agreed too & alongside with the Exclusive Unova birds if were going by theme if anything

@pokefanalex9504 10 ай бұрын

I feel like both can co-exist as regional birds given both fill the role (Though Spearow and arguably Squawkabilly might count as well. Both are encountered early enough)

@Basebrat1294 10 ай бұрын

I feel like the idea of a regional bird is technically the reasons you gave, but also it could be based on the Pokemon's popularity in that generation. Kind of like "What bird pokemon comes to mind when you think of Gen Blank?" These are the main ones that tend to come to mind

@onebear6504 10 ай бұрын

May not apply to everyone though, but it IS indeed a vague term anyways (some subjective example: there are many birds in gen 2 and personally I didn't realize hoothoot was gen 2 until I recheck in this video, Braviary is very popular, wingull line is iconic in competitive for rain teams, etc)..... ig what Lockstin is trying to do is finding a definition that applies for all cases

@JFLEstudios 10 ай бұрын

Now I need you to make a video about the definition of "Regional Rodent" because I swear I'm going insane seeing so many people trying to pass Lechonk as a Regional Rodent 😅

@MagusAgrippa8 10 ай бұрын

I think it's safe to say the term is regional mammal now. Zigzagoon isn't a rodent after all.

@RiannaPeterson 10 ай бұрын

Zigzagoon (tanuki), Furret (ferret), Bunnleby (rabbit), and Yungoose (mongoose) are all not rodents, and yet somehow, they feel like they fit in a way Lechonk doesn't.... No idea why but for me (similar to how I feel about Wingull and Spearow) it just doesn't feel right to put it there, like it just doesn't fit somehow even though it logically should...

@demikus 10 ай бұрын

Funny thing for me is when I think of the gen 3 games birds Wingull always comes to my mind long before Taillow. It's an early bird that evolves and it's a water bird in what is by far the most WATER forward generation.

@dramotarker1352 10 ай бұрын

Yeah I don't get why he said nobody would wanna include Wingull at 6:10, for the exact same reasons as you said, I also associate Wingull way more with Hoenn than Taillow, and from my vague memory of playing the game, it definitely also seemed early enough to be a regional bird.

@brandibastian4193 10 ай бұрын

I mean every region has more than one bird family but the regional bird is the one that are like everywhere in the early game and evolve not long after you meet them later birds take a while to evolve

@xabierarana2645 10 ай бұрын

as he said, wingull mets that criteria better than tailow, and fearow is not that far from pidgey,

@TeleportRush 10 ай бұрын

@@xabierarana2645 I mean, some lists do count spearow and wingull as just second regional birds.

@silvertotodile6958 10 ай бұрын

Spearow and Wingul deserve the Early Bird title, they’re as close as your gonna get to it. I dunno why you’d WANNA not include them!

@harikiran4339 10 ай бұрын

Exactly the time has come for them to be considered as part of the list.

@3eve0n 10 ай бұрын

idk why but they just intuitively don't feel like they belong to me

@nousername191 10 ай бұрын

@@3eve0n I still think it's because of Ash not catching them.

@onebear6504 10 ай бұрын

It saddens me a bit as someone who likes Spearow (and uses it in my playthrough) than Pidgey, but I think I get why people don't wanna group em together tho

@nousername191 10 ай бұрын

@@onebear6504 Yeah. I still think Spearow and Wingull deserve it (and I still think Wingull deserves it more than Tailow) but I'm of the belief that the birth of the fan term is from Ash always catching a specific early route bird Pokemon.

@korvet8482 10 ай бұрын

as someone who always considered wingull and spearow regional birds and doesn't consider wattrel a regional bird because it's hard to run into one "early" without going out of your way, I love how worked up you get over this lol.

@afossileel 10 ай бұрын

I usually define it as the first bird Pokémon to appear in that region’s section of the full Pokédex, excluding starters of course. The only issue with this definition is that squakabily comes before wattrel, but it doesn’t evolve so it’s kinda different.

@peterdanior4538 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, first bird in the Pokédex that isn’t a starter & capable of evolving.

@kevintan6618 10 ай бұрын

I'm actually more open with Sqwakabilly being the regional bird because you can catch them in the starting area, albeit a static encounter, unlike wattrel. Plus, it's normal/flying. To me, the evolution thing is less of a criteria.

@shytendeakatamanoir9740 10 ай бұрын

And the first new bird you'll encounter is probably Flamigo. But Squawkabily is probably a better fit, yeah

@onebear6504 10 ай бұрын

@@peterdanior4538and first debuting in that gen too cause rookidie comes after hoothoot or some other familiar bird if am not mistaken

@roymustangsgirl007 10 ай бұрын

3:20 Spearow was in a weird place not all trainers went. And it felt rarer. All those other birds feel more common. More, the bird of the reagon

@maninthetrenchcoat5603 10 ай бұрын

You have to go on that route for your second rival fight. Who's skipping that route?

@pn2294 10 ай бұрын

It’s because they’re villainous birds

@EpiclyEpicGamer 10 ай бұрын

@@maninthetrenchcoat5603 people who dont know/dont care about that route

@afifmajid8754 10 ай бұрын

@@pn2294 nah they get a bad rep cause they got a mean mug, and people forget Ash started that fight by yeeting a ball at that thing outta nowhere, lets see how you react after getting smashed with a random rock

@ArthAPint 10 ай бұрын

I always thought of them as your second avian starter to compliment your original starter (mostly) But clearly there is a bit more to it 👀

@Yesenn 9 ай бұрын

9:58 Also interesting to note that Swellow and Noctowl are the only ones that aren't 3 stage lines. So you could say the old definition also had the regional bird as a 3 stage.

@MonoHerobrine 10 ай бұрын

Watch in Gen X they introduce two different Bird Pokémon that have above 450 stats blowing this whole theory of "Regional Bird" out the window.

@kelseypurdy8349 10 ай бұрын

I always thought the first bird in the pokedex of the region was the regional bird.

@kadendang_ 10 ай бұрын

That's what I thought too, but even when you exclude the starters, Squawkabilly (#0931) comes before Wattrel (#0940) in the Pokedex. So... would that make Squawkabilly the regional bird, if even though it doesn't evolve like the others?

@Kostyurik 10 ай бұрын

It works for Pidgey in Kanto, Taillow in Hoenn, Starly in Sinnoh and Hisui and Pidove in Unova. For other five regions there are some hiccups in the way. In Paldea the first bird Pokemon in regional Pokedex besides Quaxly (#7) is Fletchling (#19) Wattrel is #177 in Paldea dex, after Rookidee (#40), Psyduck (#55), Starly (#97), Oricorio (#100), Squawkabilly (#113) and Wingull (#132) Regional bird of Johto is Pidgey (#10). Hoothoot is #15, even after Spearow (#13) Kalos has three regional Pokedex divisions, central, coastal and mountain, that would've mean three Kalos regional birds, but mountain pokedex has no birds at all. That leaves us with Wingull (#17 in coastal Pokedex) and Fletchling (#14 in central Pokedex) Alola have 4 Pokedex subdivisions (Melemele, Akala, Ula'ula and Poni pokedexes), and four Alola regional birds are Pikipek (#10 in Melemele Pokedex), Pikipek (#1 in Akala Pokedex), Pikipek (#1 in Ula'ula Pokedex) and Pikipek (#1 in Poni Pokedex) Galar regional bird is Hoothoot (#19). Rookiedee is only #21. Regional bird of Island of Armor is Fletchling (#22), and Crown of Tundra regional bird is Swablu (#35) That leaves us with list of regional birds containing Pidgey, Pidgey, Taillow, Starly, Pidove, Fletchling, Wingull, Pikipek, Pikipek, Pikipek, Pikipek, Hoothoot, Fletchling, Swablu, Starly and Fletchling

@johnlynch1353 10 ай бұрын

⁠⁠@@Kostyurikyou could change it to new Pokémon and get rid of a lot of those hiccups

@alexaaskov 10 ай бұрын

@@kadendang_ I thought the same as @kelseypurdy8349 and I actually thought that Squawkabilly was the regional bird of Paldea. I viewed Wattrel as the same group of birds as Wingull, Natu, Ducklett and other non-Normal type bird Pokémon.

@DarkklawX 10 ай бұрын

@@Kostyurik just specify a little further, and require that it evolves & that it's introduced in that region, and we're solid. Also exclude starters. For Kalos we assume the Central dex is the start, since it also has the starters. For Alola we don't need to care about this - because it has an Alola dex number, and the first bird in each dex is the same anyway.

@illustro 10 ай бұрын

Swellow and Pelliper could potentially both be considered as regional birds at their intro. They did this with alot of Mons in the region after all, especially the 2 Psuedos.

@seanread5556 10 ай бұрын

my personal definition of a 'regional bird' is a COMMON bird type found early in the game, likely to be the first bird pokemon you meet. pretty much all the stuff you covered, cutting out the rarer birds like Braviary/Mandibuzz/Natu, but also the other early route competitors too. Spearow is notably rarer then Pidgey, for instance. and while Wingull is found on more routes then Swellow, at least for the majority of those you need to have surf, which you get later in the game.

@LucasCharra 10 ай бұрын

I always counted Spearow/Fearow and Wingull/Pelipper as regional birds. Some regions just happen to have two. Same with bugs.

@shytendeakatamanoir9740 10 ай бұрын

In a similar way, Regional Birds can be regional for more than one regions, because otherwise you would have to exclude Pidgey (found on early routes in Johto and Kalos), or Fletchling (First birds you encounters in Paldea), and that would be just dumb.

@user-oy2zg3bt6n 10 ай бұрын

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 unless the definition requires them to be common in their introduced region spesificly, and it doesn't care for other regions (so Pidgey counts as regional bird only because of kanto, it's presence in Jotoh doesn't matter)

@lotrdude13 10 ай бұрын

Fwiw, I always considered Wingull to be the regional bird of Hoenn because you find it everywhere

@3ekaust 10 ай бұрын

I would say the easiest definition of regional bird is "The first bird based pokemon evolution line after the starters in each national dex according to the pokedex oder". Works every time and it basically is how most fans assume a certain line is or is not the regional bird.

@loungingpotatoe990 10 ай бұрын

The way you do your videos is so engaging, energetic, and so not monotonous. I hope you keep this up. This is so entertaining.

@jaernihiltheus7817 10 ай бұрын

I always saw swellow and pelipper as the regional birds of land and sea, respectively. Since having those two being separate, opposing forces was the big theme of hoenn. Similar to the version exclusives in those games... but since they are both regional birds, they're both available in all versions pre-gym 1.

@OtakuUnitedStudio 10 ай бұрын

Personally I never thought the games were limited to one regional bird. Spearow and Wingull could count. Natu, Murkrow, Braviary and Mandibuzz are too limited in their availability, but there's really nothing stopping Spearow and Wingull other than post hoc attempts to rigidly define a fandom term that started out vague and wasn't clear on why certain ones would be excluded.

@silvercyndaquil8472 10 ай бұрын

It's just the first new fully flying type line introduced each generation. And by first I mean first in the Pokedex. Kanto - Charizard and Butterfree are before it, but their pre-evos aren't Flying, so Pidgey's line Johto - Pidgey and Spearow's line are both before it, but since they are from Kanto, Hoothoot's line Hoenn - Beautifly's pre-evos aren't flying, so Tailow's line Sinnoh - Starly's line Unova - Pidove's line Kalos - Fletchling's line Alola - Rowlett is flying, but it's final evo is not, so Pikipek's line Galar - Hoothoot's line is from Johto and Butterfree is from Kanto plus pre-evo clause, so Rookidee's line takes it Paldea - Now, this is where things fall apart slightly because Squakabilly is before Wattrel (along with a lot of flying types from previous gens and/or that have non-flying evos/pre-evos) - however, notice in the beginning I said line, and by that I also meant it has to evolve at least once, thus meaning Squakabilly doesn't count and Wattrel's line takes it.

@CuppaGi 10 ай бұрын

I think you forgot something. Gen 3 was the gen to introduce double battles, and as a result they introduced a ton of duos. Two Pikaclones. Solrock and Lunatone. Mawile and Sableye. Even two regional bug Pokemon, stemming from the same 1st stage. Sure gen 1 did this too, but there wasn't a pattern yet. So two regional birds in the region that has two Pikaclones, a ton of duos and introduced double battles? Yeah... It fits.

@anglure3617 10 ай бұрын

I'd love to see you try and tackle this for all the regional mammals and bugs too

@therepublic21 10 ай бұрын

There are no mammals, everything lays eggs 😔

@bensjammin9 10 ай бұрын

Agreed, those vids would be great

@egg7247 10 ай бұрын

@@therepublic21 all are monotremes, like platypus and echidna:)

@turkoositerapsidi 10 ай бұрын

@@therepublic21some mammals lay eggs...

@eeveeongirl 10 ай бұрын

Ironically the bugs present and issue immediately with gen 1 with both caterpie and weed levels, things smooth over with ledyba then wurmple...and then gen 4 happens like I know people will probably say burmy but you can't even get that easy. Gen 5 presents the same problem as gen 1. Then things are straight forward again. As for the mammals it think every gen is pretty straight forward as every one of them has a 2 stage normal type rattatta, sentret, zigzagoon, bidoof, patrat, bunnelby, yungoose, wooloo, and lechonk.

@Wailerman 10 ай бұрын

A generally early route bird pokemon. That's honestly how i see it.

@spenceretheridge3614 10 ай бұрын

You could classify the birds as the evolving flying type birds available in early game that come first in the pokedex because it fits all of the birds you mentioned. (with the exception of starters obviously)

@TheCyclonesEye 10 ай бұрын

0:48 'A Regional Bird is a Feathered Biped' Nobody: Diogenes with a Machop, a bag of chicken feathers, and some glue:

@KARS_K 10 ай бұрын

I just define regional bird as a bird that is definitely made to fill the quota of a bird Pokémon

@pacmanboss256 10 ай бұрын

i define regional bird as the (usually normal/flying) evolution line introduced to the region and usually found on the early routes and evolves early.

@brutalnobody5240 10 ай бұрын

Early or in parallel with your starter (around early 30s for full evo)

@Lester_da_Molester 10 ай бұрын

8:41 "They didn't buff it enough" bro pelipper gets the drizzle ability in gen 7, combined them w water moves and hurricane, i think pelipper get the high buff than swellow

@andrewjoseph2749 10 ай бұрын

@6:18 I've always counted Wingull, i've only counted Taillow when i was younger and less sophisticated; saying Gen3 had two regional birds

@dragonologest 10 ай бұрын

Regional birds also seem to have a more common bird shape in their final if there are more than one early bird pokemon.

@JRPOGM 10 ай бұрын

Ah yes, the gen 6 games, Black and White. Love discussions like this.

@enoyna1001 10 ай бұрын

*discussions like THESE (for the next time you want to be a smartass)

@TimothyRE99 10 ай бұрын

@@enoyna1001"I love discussions like this current discussion we are having." 'This' refers to the (non-typed/implied) singular discussion that the video is covering, not the plural "discussions" he had earlier in the statement.

@enoyna1001 10 ай бұрын

@@TimothyRE99 you're not wrong, maybe I was the smartass

@RoyalTfrii 10 ай бұрын

I mean if the coliseum/dx region was cannon black and white would be gen 6

@connor_rhoads 10 ай бұрын

I always thought the regional Birds were the early route birds that can evolve and are fairly easy to get. I also don’t include Spearow & Wingul but I don’t know why

@MarkBonneaux 10 ай бұрын

I think it's like Natu, although it's available early in Yellow and maybe Red/Blue, most people don't go out of their way to get one, whereas Pidgey is shoved in your face sometimes literally in your first step onto Rt 1. You can find it more easily before Mt. Moon but at that point you have your first badge and so it's no longer "early game" in the same way. You've probably already invested in a Pidgey at that point.

@trle964 10 ай бұрын

a common early route flying type bird pokemon that can only evolve via level up (no level up via night or day or friendship), is native to the region it was introduced in, starts as a small bird, and is the first bird pokemon introduced in the early routes.

@matheusgomespinto4915 10 ай бұрын

I was used to count spearow and wingull as regionsl birds. For me, was a similar case to the Pseudo Legendaries, when Hoenn introduced 2.

@Kostyurik 10 ай бұрын

Agreed Pikaclone can be done thrice (Togedemaru, Alolan Raichu and Mimikyu / Pawmi, Pawmo and Pawmot) twice (Pikachu and Raichu, Marill and Pichu, Plusle and Minun) or once (Pachirisu, Emolga, Dedenne, Morpeko) Regional bug can be done twice (Caterpie and Weedle, Ledyba and Spinarak, Kriketot and Burmy, Sewaddle and Venipede, Tarountula and Nymble) or only once (Wurmple, Grubbin) Regional early-route mammal can be done thrice (Patrat, Purrloin and Lillipup / Skwowet, Galarian Zigzagoon and Wooloo) twice (Zigzagoon and Poochyena, Yungoos and Alolan Rattata) or once (Rattata, Sentret, Bidoof, Bunnelby, Lechonk) I don't get where "There could only be a single one" even came from

@Wolfbane382 10 ай бұрын

Regional, shiny, gen. I honestly never knew these were just fan-made terms until today. I didn't really give much thought to a regional bird because I don't really pay much mind to such things. But now I've got some food for thought that is for sure!

@IWouldLikeToRemainAnonymous 10 ай бұрын

I've enjoyed all the bird pokémon videos you've made!

@Tohob 10 ай бұрын

I think the missing link here is that the rule of one bird per region means that only the most applicable pokemon gets the spot. all the factors can be accounted for, and the Pokemon that best exemplifies the criteria is the one that counts even if it doesn't check every box. (you can still count normal type, having a 3rd evolution, and being available very early as criteria, and so Pidgey beats out Spearow and taillow beats out wingull due to meeting more of the criteria)

@DarkGekkouga 10 ай бұрын

I always considered Spearow and Wingull part of the group the same way how both Caterpie and Weedle are Regional Bugs and How both Alolan Rattata and Yungoose are Regional Rodents

@morgancrabtree6248 10 ай бұрын

Somebody replied to another comment mongoose (Yungoos) aren't rodents.

@DarkGekkouga 10 ай бұрын

@@morgancrabtree6248 thats true but neither are Ferrets, Tanooki, Meerkats, Rabbits, Raccoons and definitely not Shrew Lemurs, the point is that they are all animals that the lamen would call a "Rodent" Regional Rodents have always been more Regional Rodent-esc

@shytendeakatamanoir9740 10 ай бұрын

Hey, I don't think they ever have to be rodent, because Lechonk definitely fits the bill despite not being a rodent at all (and otherwise it should be Pawmi who may also be a Pikaclone... Arceus, those terms are confusing)

@DarkGekkouga 10 ай бұрын

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 i feel like Lechonk is pokemon trying to recreate Wooloo more than being the "Rodent" rather I think that goes to Shroodle with the joke being that it isn't even a shrew, but a shrew lemur

@Frogboyaidan 10 ай бұрын

Regional mammal fits better

@MarkulusRift 10 ай бұрын

I did not know gen was a fan made term 😂

@TheRealPeppino 10 ай бұрын

@OtakuUnitedStudio 10 ай бұрын

Prior to around Generation 4, GameFreak and Nintendo referred to games by their console or region when they wanted to categorize them by release period. It wasn't until either Generation 5 or 6 that they started occasionally using the word "generation" to refer to games based on when they came out. The reason for this was partly to do with how Generation 5 was the first time more than one generation of games was released on the same console (4 and 5 both being on the DS). But now the term is becoming somewhat vague due to certain games being a little harder to classify - is Legend Arceus a Gen 8 or a Gen 9 game? Officially it's the last game of Generation 8, but it's also a soft reboot of the series so it can be argued that it's Gen 9. But people have argued over sillier things.

@nightwing2032 10 ай бұрын

@@OtakuUnitedStudioI’m pretty sure everyone including gamefreak considers legends arceus is a gen 8 game since gen 9 which is scarlet and violet did start and kick off gen 9. Just like Pokémon let’s go is a gen 7 game not gen 8.

@brads5979 10 ай бұрын

I had a wingull/pelipper in my original playthrough oh ruby as a kid. I loved that pelipper was a water bird that could learn thunder.

@christinefarrell6438 10 ай бұрын

When SV first dropped, there was a lot of debate on whether Wattrel and Kilowattrel counted as regional birds, and a big part of the argument was that you find them relatively late for the regional bird. Not entirely accurate, you can get them in the beginning beaches, but you have to specifically go looking for them. They're most common in the area around the fourth gym. A lot of people were arguing for Flamigo (because you find it first) or Squawkabilly (because it's Normal/Flying)

@soleraprincessgongjunim3320 7 ай бұрын

i would personally chose wattrel over squawkabilly and flamigo bc at least it evolves into kilowattrel, whereas the other two don't evolve at all

@christinefarrell6438 7 ай бұрын

@@soleraprincessgongjunim3320 I'd agree with you. It's not normal/flying but neither is Corviknight and I'd bet Noctowl made today would probably be flying/pyschic

@soopnoudle 10 ай бұрын

you should do videos like this for more fanmade terms

@patildo 10 ай бұрын

Maybe regional birds are actually a feeling people have for some Pokémon. They don't need to fit a definition, they just are regional birbs.

@theshades5702 10 ай бұрын

Interesting, i always instinctively include Wingull and Spearow, but i refer to this group as 'early route birds', which automatically excludes Braviary for heing found too late in the game, didn't even realise people called them 'regional birds', for Paldea i also include both Wattrel and Squawkabilly, since they're both available early

@fortello7219 10 ай бұрын

Oh i always counted them as bird like flying types that are available early game and have a frendly disposition in their first form. Aka not spearow, but yes wingull.

@LinkachuTriBall 10 ай бұрын

Just wanna point out that Paldea has Wattrel, Kilowatrel, Flamigo, Bombirdier, and Squawkabilly so no shortage of boids there either!

@Meeper12346 10 ай бұрын

squawkabilly in particular is the first bird pokemon you even see in the game's intro, and there's 2 of them located directly on top of your house that you can capture as soon as you get poke balls, i feel like they're a fair candidate too if you want to get rid of "has to evolve" as a requirement

@M_Alexander 10 ай бұрын

Poor Spearow

@LucasDarkGiygas 10 ай бұрын

Loved the video. And yeah i never considered Wingull or Spearow as Regional Birds, but i can't argue that they aren't.

@Biz_God 10 ай бұрын

My main definition is the same as yours but i also include the Spearow and wingul and xatu as alternate choices.

@0412010ryry 10 ай бұрын

i love this format. plz do this with all the fan terms

@SaimeZX 10 ай бұрын

I'd put it as the first flying type line the generation introduces (by pokedex number) As for Noctowl it might not have been meant to be the "regional bird" as pidgey is found on the first route (same for sentret and rattata) the gen 9 one, I didn't even know it existed until I saw videos of it (to be fair I never beat violet)

@Moonsong227 10 ай бұрын

In addition to being an early game/dex everywhere mon, I feel like regional birds also have to have a down to earth feel. Braviary and wingull are too (i hate to use this word but isn't think of a better one) exotic, they're interesting and don't live in basic early wooded areas kids play in. Theyre an eagle and sea birds. Braviary is version exclusive and might as well be a psuedolegendary. And pelleper can be caught anywhere wingull can. As for spearow, I always considered it a regional bird that was just forgotten by the fans because its less interesting than pigeot, but after raising one I think it'd also that its scrappy looking, it looks more like Braviary, its not something a kid could cuddle or see in their backyard early on. Fearow should evolve at lv 55 is what I'm saying lmao

@spiritupgrades 10 ай бұрын

8:12 This has no right to be funny

@captainlink72 10 ай бұрын

I’d love to see a video about the curious case of Bagon’s evolution. I feel like evolving into Shelgon then Salamence isn’t it’s natural method of evolution. It grew wings out of sheer force of will, possibly being inspired to fly by Roaring Moon (hence their similarities). It makes me wonder what a natural evolutionary process would be like for our little pseudo-legendary pachycephalosaurus.

@kevinstephenson3531 10 ай бұрын

I like to think it’s like Dracovish except built correctly. And yes I know Rampardos exists.

@grahambirch8563 10 ай бұрын

I always think of the early route encounters as always following the pattern of:- - 2 or 3 stage evolution - Available in the routes before the 1st gym - Fit one of the following types 1) Flying type - based on a bird 2) Normal Type - based on a mammal 3) Bug Type - based on a bug For each type you can have more than 1 per gen (e.g. Weedle & Caterpie Bug Gen 1, Taillow & Wingull Bird Gen 3)

@waterfrost5080 10 ай бұрын

I love the regional birds, i put them on every team i make, my favorites are pelipper, swellow, and corviknight. I also made a full regional bird team in pokemon showdown, it did pretty well

@zenitsumimigma5080 10 ай бұрын

Birb

@Levi_Heicho 10 ай бұрын

Notification squad, where ya at?

@shinesoul7472 10 ай бұрын

To me its. ‘Early game Flying mon who can act as a non Stater/Legend Mascot’. I think originally it was (in 1-3) that there was Staple Bug for early Evolution and Core Normal types(one being a flying) to help Fill your team. Down the line Staple Normal types got Split into Common early Normal And Main Bird.

@TheDeathmail 10 ай бұрын

I feel like the term just high lights how language isn't always a science but an art... and I actually love the term more because of how vague it is... yet, overall, the community actually has a pretty strong consensus over what the regional birds are.. Most actually do use the list of: -Pidgey/Pidgeotto/Pidgeot -Hoothoot/Noctowl -Taillow/Swellow -Starly/Staravia/Staraptor -Pidove/Tranquill/Unfezant -Fletchling/Fletchinder/Talonflame -Pikipek/Trumbeak/Toucannon -Rookidee/Corvisquire/Corviknight And the fact that, as a community, we can have such a consensus while there isn't a real defining definition for the term I think high lights how there is something that we as fellow fans can relate and connect together that sometimes, we just can't explain with words... something we can just feel...

@jl3039 10 ай бұрын

Always thought it has to be within the first two~ route in game. But I didn't know there were so many little exceptions 😅

@SpaceFrog999 10 ай бұрын

I know “didn’t buff it nearly as much” was talking about bst, but they gave pelliper DRIZZLE. I think that more than makes up for swellows extra 10 base stats

@Absbor 10 ай бұрын

Good video. I was wondering what a regional bird was. if it were just an early bird, then flamigo must have counted xD. but then at the same time, wattrel might have not, because coming near the coasts without a -dog- dragon in paldea is hard. honestly, a regional bird now, is just whichever bird the community likes more. xD

@joaocisne556 10 ай бұрын

I do include Peliper and sperrow, I don't mind them being part of the group, also I hope ferrow gets an evolution and matches your criteria

@karvot 10 ай бұрын

I never included Noctowl because Pidgey feels like the regional bird of johto to me, maybe because Hoothoot was only catchable at night and I was a kid back then. Plus the other Birds on the list have in their first stage a Bird like shape and Hoothoot is a ball with a leg. 😅 Interesting video.

@Clarkarius7 10 ай бұрын

I usually just referred to them as the Route 1 Birds, for this very reason. Alongside their counterparts the Route 1 Normal and Route 1 Bug. All early game 'mon, usually found in the first few routes of the game, who showcase the new generation before the game opens up. Bonus points to the Route 1 Rookie, a pokemon that is available early and usually only found at low levels throughout the game, but can evolve into a powerful third stage pokemon if held onto. (Shinx / Lillipup ect)

@Mucrush 9 ай бұрын

I think it is the early Normal/Flying combo that makes them count as Regional Birds. Only later on did they spice it up a bit with the typings, but I still think this pattern works out. I'd even go and say that Spearow and Wingull lines would also be considered part of it. We had 2 psedo legendary lines in Gen 3, so its not impossible to consider multiple lines of birds as the Regional Birds!

@declanmckenna6854 8 ай бұрын

Also because of the dual nature of Gen 3, nearly every major one-off had 2. 2 pseudos, 2 evil teams, 2 champions, 2 pikaclones, 2 regional mammals, a regional bug with 2 branching evolutions, why wouldn't we have 2 regional birds as well.

@ARSRGDLS 10 ай бұрын

😂3:10 you can count sparrow and farrow as a reigon bird pokemon too, just like caterpie line and weedle line., 3:52 including wingull for a reason, just because anime said itm it doesn't mean they're number of regional bird is like regional bug number pointers.

@Botan_Katou 10 ай бұрын

I think the reason for me not counting Pelipper as a regional bird is because, while it IS a flying type, the few times I did use a Pelipper, it was mainly for it's water typing with rain. Where as all the other birds, it was 99% for its flying type. ie, Aerial Ace/Wing Attack/Fly/Air Slash/Brave Bird/etc. Granted, normal attacks were used some times, Talonflame added some fire attacks, but Tailwind/Brave Birding was still its main thing, same with Corviknight but steel. Spearow, I'm not too sure. Maybe because the Pidgey line had 2 evos vs the 1 Spearow has. Having 3 is better than 2, right? lol

@benjystrauss2524 10 ай бұрын

I would say gen1 had 2 regional birds, also including Spearow. I define them as Flying-type (throughout the entire line) Pokémon you can get before the 2nd gym (without hacking, trading, etc) that are in the bird egg group. Wingull counts, as does Natu, and even Zubat and Woobat

@OccuredJakub12 10 ай бұрын

I count Wingull, Spearow, and actually Hoothoot as well as the "secondary regional birds". In gen 2 Pidgey was as common on early routes as Hoothoot so I'm willing to say it was the "main regional bird" of both gen 1 and gen 2. The secondary birds fell off as a categorization because the games begun to offer wider choices in catching earlier on in the games.

@pacoramon9468 10 ай бұрын

8:35 That's a dumb buff, 20 extra points in an special attack it won't use.

@641mamaluigi 10 ай бұрын

Corviknight is my favorite regional bird, mirror body is so fun to use Though Corvikight is definitely Tinkaton’s Least Favorite Regional Bird (or most favorite to use for building weapons)

@morphstarchangeling8024 10 ай бұрын

Before gen 6 its normal flying type thay evolves at low levels, while gen 6 onward the term gets more compliant to where i just equate it to whichever bird is most iconic to the region and still evolves. Like corvinight being the flying taxi service, toucannon being a toucan in a tropical region because its a tropical bird, and 9 has only 1 bird family thay evolves if im correct.

@risel56 10 ай бұрын

I swear I've heard Lockstin use that "Sucks to be you, Chatot" line before. Am I having a crazy Mandala Effect moment?

@KalleBerendijk 10 ай бұрын

Remember that "1000 Pokémon" montage they did a while back? In that video they grouped up certain Pokémon by their archetypes and around the 38 second mark they show Pidgey, Hoothoot, Taillow, Starly, Pidove, Fletchling, Pikipek and Rookidee (gen 9 had its own setment so no Wattrel). I think it's safe to say that this is the closest we have to an official definition of what is and isn't a regional bird.

@KalleBerendijk 10 ай бұрын

Interestingly enough, they also included Wooloo with all the Pokémon commonly thought of as "regional rodents" (even though Bunnelby isn't a rodent) so I guess gen 8 had two regional "rodents"?

@maganhassan2627 10 ай бұрын

@kalle3054 wouldn't they just meant early encounters?

@declanmckenna6854 10 ай бұрын

I never really thought about the term Regional Bird but i guess I always considered it to be the bird pokemon that can be easily caught early game (i.e., before the first major city with) that is extremely common as a wild encounter and trainer battle typically used by the "younger" trainer classes that upon evolution is fairly decent stat wise with the evolution being fairly commonly used by trainers.

@mabs6253 10 ай бұрын

Then by that factor Wingull should be Hoenn's R.B. you get it before Taillow, you can even encounter them before you even had your Pokeballs given.

@peteypiranalover 10 ай бұрын

Those are the 9 i would label as regional birds too. There are a couple though get close like Fearow or bombirdier

@kaleidonova2489 5 ай бұрын

I believe that we could count non-evolving birds. As a matter of fact, Squawkabilly could very well be considered the regional bird of Paldea: it’s quite common, it’s the main mean of transportation (like corviknight) and it’s only in the flying egg group (while kilowattrel and Pelipper are also in the water 1 egg group)

@windsmith4048 10 ай бұрын

I feel like having peliper counted as as a reginal bird works since gen 3 had 2 evil teams, 2 psychic type gym leaders, techniquly 2 different champs in wallice and steven, and latias and latiose. Also swallows prefer to live more inland where seagull, on average, live neer costal areas. So maybe a bit of team magma and aqua rivalry going with the birds of hoenne to.