Fun fact; they actually got the guy who did the original "It’s me Barry" meme to voice Reverse Flash!

Nux: "There's no way he'd figure out the ring!" Reverse Flash: Comes from a world where power rings are very common, thus probably his first thought would be "Maybe that ring is the key!"

I think Reverse Flash is Petty enough to steal anything off him. With enough times of "dying" you would eventually hit the point where you gotta try something like that. And stealing the ring off him isn't that hard to do if he is that broken of speeds. The Time BS is insane!

"He wants to be syndrome so badly" I mean to be fair, he was Syndrome before Syndrome was created. If anything Syndrome wants to be Reverse Flash.

If Doctor Manhattan can't permanently get rid of reverse flash what the hell is Goku black going to do

Considering they'd essentially be killing eachother infinitely _until_ one of them figures out a counter, *and* that Reverse Flash is faster, *and* he's smarter when it comes to time travel, *and* he comes from a franchise where power rings are commonplace (think of the Lanterns), it's much more plausible to say he'd destroy the time ring first, than Goku Black figuring out anything about Thawne's living paradox powers.

Nux getting mad about powers being stronger than he thought they were with only a surface-level understanding is very Nux.

Nux wants to emphasize the low points of characters that are in comics but seems to forget that goku got hurt by a small rock lightly tossed by krillin.

The difference between these two is that one has a time ring, and the other is the time ring

One of the biggest factors when it comes to destroying the Time Ring I feel like they should have emphasised further is that R.Flash comes from a universe where powered rings are somewhat common (The Lanterns). Combined with his intelligence and just how fast he is, I feel like it would probably be likely to happen.

According to the Wiki, nothing mentions the Time Ring being unable to be taken off, so Thawne apparently could legitimately remove it.

I genuinely love when he watches these deathbattles and he just get filled with copium.😂

Reverse Flash to Goku Black: You merely adopted the bullshit time anomaly I am the bullshit time anomaly

Considering Hal Jordan (the best friend of Eobard's arch nemesis) is one of the many people in DC that derives power from a ring, you'd have a really hard time justifying Black's Time Ring _not_ being the very first thing Thawne thinks to get rid of.

I'll be honest, Thawne's motivation is so comically loony that it actually comes back around to being legitimately terrifying when you see just how far he'll go for a goal that most of us normal people can't even take seriously. It sounds goofy as hell... until you realize that there's no one left alive to laugh at it. It's kind of like how Bill Cipher looking like just a little triangle in a top hat ends up making it all the more horrifying when you realize what a sick bastard he actually is.

Tbh I think it would be pretty easy to tell if his ring was giving him his time powers, I mean its a ring with a literal infinity symbol on it, especially for a dude considered a genius.

Reverse flash is actually pretty consistently op on comic defiantly the recent comic

The Negative Speed Force actually makes sense because it's not so much that Thawne is using a completely different power set, but rather he's drawing the Speed Force away from the things around him. So if you put Thawne in a universe or timeline where no new Speed Force energy is being generated, his powers would slowly but surely run out because Thawne can't create Speed Force energy himself.

Except, he would. Think of it like this, who would win a fight, a person who is immortal? Or a person who is immortal as long as he wears the right underwear. They will keep fighting and try every possible thing possible to eachother. Similar, these two will keep coming back ajd keep trying every possible thing they can to each other. O e of those will eventually end with the ring off.

Fun fact: This was the episode that ended Dragon Ball's 5 in a row-winning streak to then start the relatively short losing streak until Frieza Vs Megatron. I only remember that specific information cause back when this episode came out, the whole Reverse Flash "Oh, was that important?" became a big meme for a bit and that was the funniest joke to come from that meme

Nux when Goku and Berus's fight was stated to be able to destroy the universe: " See! Goku would destroy everyone! They literally said that he could destroy the universe!" Nux when Flash and Kid Flash race almost destroyed the multiverse "But you can't take that seriusly! It's just a joke, they are obviously not being serius."

You can't readily dismiss feats without context Nux. Some high end comic feats are meant to be taken metaphorical, like Superman lifting the universe Atlas was holding up, but thats clear if you read it. Moments like Barry and Reverse Flash tearing apart the multiverse isn't poetic or a metaphor, sometimes cool crazy feat is meant to be taken as cool crazy feat, why not just accept that?

I think the problem that you have is that comics arent necessarily sequential. I agree that powerscaling is really hard to do with characters who have been around for decades, but you cant take all of the low end trash that they get beaten by as the hero at their prime. Like, The Flash gets beaten by some teenagers. Yeah. When he was just getting used to his own powers. Superman gets rocjed by Solomon Grundy. Beacuse he's constantly holding back. That doesn't mean that they're not still capable of their top tier feats. They're just not going all out or there are some other factors that prevent them from using their full powerset. Like, if The Flash ran back in time every time something bad happened, then that pretty much ends every story before it begins. There is no story if he does that.

Nux....bro ...the reason why people are upset with you is not because you don't take statements seriously. It's because you only take ANIME seriously. It essentially becomes a Western hate video for no reason. Even if it is an arc you hate, you will still ride for dragonball or the anime regardless. It's supposed to be fun, and you make it one-sided for no reason. If we put the doctor against goku black, the doctor would know it's the time ring in literal seconds because he knows alot of quote "timey wimey bs"

One's drunk with power and the other's high on speed. This won't end well.

I always get a kick out of how Nux has a massive problem with how DC characters are generally stronger than he is willing to admit and is relegated to dismissing their feats by calling them “random” and “inconsistent”.

One thing I think they should have mentioned but just didnt was the fact that when it comes to items that allow time travel such as the time ring, Reverse flash has a kind of sense for them and can lock onto them to let him know what is causing the ability to time travel so more than likely he will know that the ring is important.

Nux saying cringe is ironic given his whiny demeanor whenever DC is brought up.

Why are you mad and call it over exaggeration when they use multiverse feats for DC characters but it’s not when they do it for anime characters? Doesn’t seem fair Nux.

Nux is so hypocritical that it's hilarious. Dragon Ball has its fair share nonsensical bullshit feats.

Nux: reverse flash will get shot by a regular person but then will be able to recreate the multiverse. Me: goku is supposed to be powerful but a rock hurts him. Boba fett is supposed to be dangerous yet got defeated by essentially an comedy skit. Every fictional character at one point has a moment in the story that makes no sense, but remember: the story comes first. You have to compare them directly, and eobard just had better speed, and he did not need a ring to survive

31:15 So I guess Goku getting oneshot by a dinky laser shot from a nobody is his max durability then.

This arguably one of the best Death Battles

10:18 the time ring doesn’t make black immune to paradox’s, it makes him a walking time paradox

Reverse-flashes motivation isn’t really stupid, he is just a toxic fanboy that wants Barry to be obsessed with him. And since he is unhinged, he does so by making Barry hate him with all his soul. In weeb terms, he's a yandere and a tsundere combined.

Even if the ring couldn't be removed by normal means, Reverse Flash could vibrate it off by phasing it through Black's finger. Also these universe and multiverse feats aren't even statements, they were actually happening in the story. Thawne actually reversed the destruction of the universe and Barry and Wally nearly tore apart the multiverse. Real feats, not just statements.

I see people complain about comic feats a lot because they say it’s one line dropped in a random comic that makes them op. But that’s not true. In the comics there’s always a story that builds up to epic moments. The Wally west moment is from when he learned that by linking speed with everyone on earth they could make him faster. So when every human on earth ran together it made flash faster than teleportation. The story is really well done. But anime fans complain about all of that even though anime characters be out here pulling random crap from no where too.

Nux: He became the universe Me: That was his fusion not him on his own.

With the scaling stuff, that's just how comics are, otherwise there'd be no drama or story. And besides, mainline Flash usually does beat his foes really fast, and if he doesn't, it's because they're either A)as fast as him, B)are intelligent enough to plan around his impossible speed, or C)have a weapon, power, or tool that allows them to deal with him, like Captain Cold's ray gun that drops stuff near absolute zero.

Close? It wasn't even fair. You never put a non-speedster against a speedster.

This was definitely one of the best Death Battles even if they gave Goku Black a ability he doesn't have

Nux probably doesn’t know this but when the lyrics “IT WAS MEEE” and Quicksilver dies it’s a reference to Quicksilver vs Flash Death Battle and Reverse Flash is the reason why Quicksilver dies in that fight

32:00 its also cringe when nux said taking those statements every time to heart hurts or whatever when in the comics you could actually see holes made in the multiverse when barry and wally race "destroyed the multiverse" these arent just statements, Nux, youre just that biased

People are upset at you trying to discount the Multiversal threatening and tearing apart feats because you're being hilariously hypocritical, accepting the shockwave feat for Dragon Ball characters when you can make the exact same dumb argument against that feat.

The problem with taking people at their lowest is when its for a person you like for example when goku got bodied by laser from a nobody. You gotta be equal if you want that.

The flash loses to random idiots because he doesn't want to hurt low level criminals, he's more of a personal hero and will lose if it helps him convince the criminals they don't need to break the law

He forgets that chinese cartoon characters spill the beans about their powers in the middle of a battle, also rv can detect time anomalíes and he faces lanterns on a daily basis.

17:40 problem is, Goku has fallen to shit that shouldn’t have worked like a heart virus or a laser. Doesn’t matter if his guard was down, its the exact same shit. Hate to say it

Yeah Nux, its a case of misremembering some key details about Zamasu and Goku Black. The Zamasu who inhabits Goku's body was the one from the main timeline of DB and wished only for the body possession and nothing else, as the time ring he stole effectively made him Immortal already. The alternate Zamasu from Trunk's Timeline is the one who wished for immortality using the Super Dragon Balls, and in regards to the Universal merge feat which was anime only; I don't believe that was a conscious decision, but rather a result of the corruption of Alt. Zamasu's Immortality wish. Alt Zamasu was an immortal being who could never die and become a spirit, but then he fused with Goku Black, a body that wasn't blessed with immortality to become a fusion which in itself is paradoxical because fused beings were never supposed to exist in the first place. When Trunk's finally sliced Fused Zamasu in half and "Killed" Zamasu, the wish had to work overtime because something that should've been impossible has been done. Zamasu is effectively dead, but where is his soul supposed to go? it cant leave the living realm because he's "immortal" and he can't go to Other World because he's "Immortal" and isnt supposed to Die. He has to go somewhere but the Wish can't return him back to his body/bodies because they have been disintegrated. So the wish just... put him everywhere. He's just omnipresent now with nothing but the total annihilation of the timeline he exists able to erase him once and for all. Not like the Manga version is any better logic wise.

3:18 True, but Goku isn’t exactly a stranger to that type of bullshit. For example, he got scratched by a bullet, and hurt by a rock. It’s about as stupid as when powerful superheroes struggle with weak criminals. 18:20 Goku Black’s body is mortal. 31:04 It’s not a statement. He actually did it. 32:08 Probably because Dragon Ball’s statements are apparently completely fine for you, but nothing else is.

Nux Prepare for probably the bloodiest death battle you have ever seen.

nux ima be honest im tired of the bitching, if reverse flash having super universal feats is such an issue, than its the same for goku black. you cant have an issue with one character having these feats and be perfectly fine with another one. like youre literally disappointed that a FLASH character was faster? you really expected ANY character in fiction to outspeed a flash? the guys who outran the concept of reality itself, casually jog through time and multiverse barriers, can beat instant teleportation and themselves in races. youre gonna sigh because one of them was deemed faster?

The Negative Speed Force is just the oppositely charged speed force, like protons and electrons, the actual opposite of Both is the Slow Force which makes everything Slow

I mean, Reverse flash is a DC Villain. He is no stranger to to people using magic rings to do insane things. If it weren't for all the different Lantern groups, he probably wouldn't have thought the ring was important.

Fun fact! Reverse Flash is a paradox so he can't be permanently killed or erased

No one tell Nux that if you used anti feats for both characters, DC characters would still win 8/10 times. Like let's not pretend it's just DC who have anti feats and that Dragon Ball is totally secure from this, hell how many times I've seen that one picture of Goku getting shot through the chest by a blast or flung by an index finger as "definitive proof that Superman destroys him"... which he DOES, but not because of anti-feats, it's really silly to powerscale like that. Also, if you're from a DC multiverse, destroying someone's ring as you suspect it might be a source of power isn't that outrageous at all... you know, since there is an entire multigalactic corp FILLED WITH THOSE MFS?

Reverse Flash is literally the worse to have as an enemy... XD

"...then The Flash will casually destroy the multiverse and rebuilt it or some shit like that." Should we tell him? Some body should tell him. I wanna tell him. Whenever you start dealing with either The Flash or Superman, everything goes out the window. What are numbers? When is time? How does reality even?

Remember when goku negated time stop by "being stronger than time itself"? Yeah totally not bullsit right Nux?

Why can’t they take those statements at face value? The Dragon Ball franchise literally makes the same bonkers statements and we take them at face value. That’s just double standards.

The Goke Black arc was literaly "Hey u wanna see Future Trunks again? Alright here is Future Trunks" - i aint complaining but it is what it is

To be honest I'm not exactly sure Goku Black even COULD counter Thawne's living paradox status so really the rest of his feats don't actually matter because at the end of the day one of these people has an ITEM that makes them immune to time shenanigans and the other one just IS naturally immune.

The really terrifying thing about Reverse Flash is that he is ABSOLUTELY petty enough to do all the things you see him claim credit for in the "It was me Barry" memes.

I forget how biased Nux is until he talks about comic book characters compared to Goku... There are many feats to Goku that are downright ridiculous, but you never speak on those. Only when Goku loses is when the issue occurs. Instead of crying about your favorite character losing and making excuses, try to actually think about how they lost and see if your opinion on it is even reasonable, like this comment.

This Death Battle was great

I dont mind that the outcome was just "steal the ring" because I had no stakes in this fight. But if you're going to use this excuse here why not do it with Green Lantern? The character who has been shown to have the ring stolen? It just feels like DC bias.

The reason Zamasu didn't merge with reality is because that was his merged version that pulled that feat off. That guy was on par with even Vegeto, which explains why he was just casually causing existence to go runny around the edges.

Reverse Flash is the guy on the playground who always makes up new rules to make him win the imaginary fight. He had a full conversation and carried out an Evil Plan, _without a frontal cortex_

Goku Black's Death is one of DB's Best Deaths They've ever made.

If the ring is connected to the particles he tracks, Reverse Flash can detect them so he absolutely could figure out the ring had some weird connect to tachyons/time.

Rings which grant powers are common in the DC universe,it makes sense to me that he figured it out.

Also remember, if characters like the flash, superman, wonder woman, green lantern etc had consistent powers, THE STORY WOULD BE BORING AF. Barry and wally and the entire speed force family would literally never be hit by anything. The problem with anime fans is they are so biased to the culture that common sense is an impossible concept

Besides the timey wimey stuff with the ring, only extra effect is sizing to wearers finger size. It can easily be taken on and off. It's just a very nicely fitting ring for whoever wears it 😅😅 Also Nux you have to remember when we saw alot of really big feats from zamasu, he was fused with him self who had a godly body and gave him access to abilities not afforded by Gokus Sayian body.

Im genuinely curious Does Nux keep this "oh he was outside the universe bullshit" energy during the Granolah arc in Super? Because someone in DragonBall does something *very similar*

Analysis might have been a bit iffy, but the fight animation is definitely some of DB’s best work. Some other ones I think Nux would like are Guts VS Dimitri, DIO VS Alucard, and All Might VS Might Guy.

"Remember that time you you missed your punches against vegeta? It was me Goku. I moved your every punch at speeds beyond your imagination so wouldn't hit your punches. "

I love watching this kid get upset, it honestly fills me with joy😌. It just copium al around lol

Yeah the Time Ring only prevents you from being erased from time, it doesn’t protect you from being straight up killed.

DBZ has some of the worst "saying but not doing" feats as well. Like, every DBZ villain ever talks about how they can blow up the Earth or more with one finger, and there end goal is to destroy the everything, but then when they are forced to go all out against characters even stronger than they are, they just blow up some rocks, or maybe a mountain at most. By your logic of how you want them to do things, as to not take characters words literally, Cell SAYS he can blow up the earth with one finger, and attempts to blow up the earth, but never does. At most he leaves a big crater in the ground when fighting his full strength against someone stronger than he is, and blows up a planet the size of a large boulder. We just have to assume how strong he is because he gave the Z fighters a hard time, and then we have to compare that to who the Z fighters had fought before then. Even on DBS, they SAY Goku and Beerus' punch was strong enough to shake and nearly destroy the universe, yet nothing happens other than them making some big waves in the ocean. Nothing makes sense on either side, manga or comic haha

Not Nux questioning why the Reverse flash was able to figure out that he needed to take the ring... When the Reverse Flash literally fought green lanterns..... who he took rings off of...... The ring would of been his top first things he would think of to take off of someone who won't die.

"Wait, dont listen to him. He's Black" - Nux Taku, 2024

When neither can die and both can use time infinitely to do whatever they want, it's all a matter of 'who can put the other down first'. Only Goku Black has any weakness that can be exploited between them both, so they could battle for eons but it would still come down to Eobard taking that ring off him at some point.

One of my favorite battles. Reverse Flash is one of my favorite dc villains. He’s so petty lol

I do love the whole thing with nux: THE SHOCKWAVES CAN DESTROY DESTROY THE UNIVERSE! ,OH DC,THATS JUST BULLSHIT xD

I would suggest Alucard vs Dio, it's a good one. Ryuko Matoi vs Shadow the Hedgehog is great as well.

My only problem is confusing statements with Feats, its one thing to say a character can do something but when they actually do it and you still call it a statement I have a problem

Zamasu definitely a hall of shame anime villain.

They always seem to forget that each universe shown in the universe orb are infinite. It is just an illustration for readers to get an understanding on what it looks like. So the punch that threatened to destroy the entirety of Universe 7 almost instantly destroyed multiple infinite sized universes.

There's always something ironic about weebs complaining that the writing in superhero comics is dumb and silly

The worst part is that they aren't all statements a lot of them were actually shown happening in the comic book.

Idk if Nux is still reacting to Death Battle videos, but if he is, I would LOVE to see him react to Vegita vs Thor, one of the best fights in the series history, plus feeds into his love of DragonBall.

Easily one of the best Death Battle episodes ever. The animation, the sound design, the choreography and the voice acting is just perfect.

To be fair we are all biased. I would say its ridiculous that 2 speedsters can destroy the multiverse buy just running very fast. Also its equally dumb, that an god of destruction can destroy the universe with someone strong enough by just punching eachother fists.

Nux really went past full weeaboo into Otaku. I've never seen a man hate comics so much when manga has the same BS in it. I mean Trunks is a literal paradox in the same way Thawne is by having Cell Kill him before he even went back in time to help the Z fighterz but DBZ is so much more consistent right?

Fun fact, cringe is fake and thinking of things as cringe just ruins your ability to have fun

This one is pretty much peak death battle i love it so much

The Flash and Reverse Flash destroy the universe on a regular baises so it's not a throw away line

Just gotta say this about the teleportation, it’s not a plot whole. Any form of teleportation in any media/real life seems instance but it’s a process of transferring some type of energy from point A to B the flash is faster than the process

For the record, this is Goku Black, as in the version of Zamasu that has Goku's body and not the immortal Zamasu or the fusion of Goku Black and Zamasu that became one with the universe. That means that this version of Goku Black is tough, but still effectively mortal.

A character in DC that has the power the wipe things from existence, couldnt wipe Reverse flash from the dc universe, Goku Black cant do shit But man Nux never fails to be annoying and whiny, really helping the stereotypes with vtubers and anime nerds