Saitama VS Popeye IS A ONE-SIDED MASSACRE

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Nuxanor

Nuxanor

6 ай бұрын

Due to mega high request today we're power scaling and reacting to Saitama VS Popeye (One-Punch Man VS Thimble Theatre) | DEATH BATTLE!
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@Lycanthromancer1
@Lycanthromancer1 6 ай бұрын
Nux: "I can't even be mad." Also Nux: **Is totally mad**
@leonardorolingstella8554
@leonardorolingstella8554 6 ай бұрын
He’s mad that he can’t even be mad
@submariNervous
@submariNervous 6 ай бұрын
@@leonardorolingstella8554 He found the classic anger loophole that allows him to still be mad at **something** lol
@nobodytooimportant3621
@nobodytooimportant3621 5 ай бұрын
"Who caaares? I don't care. I don't even care." [I care immensely]
@BlueDragonCody
@BlueDragonCody 5 ай бұрын
​@@nobodytooimportant3621JonTron reference
@danielferrieri7434
@danielferrieri7434 6 ай бұрын
"He took a big gamble, but now he is scrambled. I'm Popeye the Sailor Maaaaan!
@Snesthekeleton
@Snesthekeleton 6 ай бұрын
Cool😊
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 6 ай бұрын
TOOT TOOT
@TheGodOfChaosOfficial
@TheGodOfChaosOfficial 6 ай бұрын
Greatest comment ever!
@Gremlin969
@Gremlin969 6 ай бұрын
yeah its debunked
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 6 ай бұрын
@@Gremlin969 Popeye still bitch slaps Saitama to a weeping Calliou if he wanted. The bar is simply too outlandish for Saitama to counter for now.
@BLB048
@BLB048 6 ай бұрын
Nux when Saitama punches Garou through time: "It's legit." Nux when Popeye tanks three punches from a regular guy: "And I took that personally."
@TeranIcer
@TeranIcer 6 ай бұрын
IKR, SOOO hypocritical. Saitama punching a black hole is cool, but Popeye punching the sun is dumb.
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 6 ай бұрын
@@TeranIcer There actually is more to Pops then what was told here everyone, be thankful that DB didn't mention all stats and for good reason, it would be a disrespectful Aquaman Funeral for Saitama XD I like to think Nux is just trolling though, he's not THAT DUMB XD
@Draconic_Lorecraft
@Draconic_Lorecraft 6 ай бұрын
@@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I KNEW THAT REFERENCE
@ashkirby8896
@ashkirby8896 6 ай бұрын
To be fair, this Death Battle came out before the Saitama vs Awakened Garou, but had it come out after the Saitama vs Awakened Garou fight, then maybe Saitama would have won against Popeye!🤔🧐
@louzo5175
@louzo5175 6 ай бұрын
tanks? he was taking damage, i dont think that puts him on the same level as saitama defense
@gorgeousfreeman1318
@gorgeousfreeman1318 6 ай бұрын
"They're taking his feats too literally" That's... the point of a death battle...
@OfficialBulldozerStudios
@OfficialBulldozerStudios 29 күн бұрын
All throughout this video, I was just wondering: "This guy's trying to start a war with someone who can ONE PUNCH!! his KZfaq straight out of existence, isn't he...?" I guess Death Battle really does bring out the worst in some people. Just like driving. And alcohol. And... basically everything else.
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls 5 күн бұрын
Yeah Nux is being dumb cuz narrative does not matter in a battle when it’s not inverse, you can’t use narrative to argue someone wins in a cross verse battle literally he Chuck debunked him and he conceded to this deleting his old Saitama video. Saitama can’t surpass Popeye not cuz of toon force but cuz he’s just not in the same tier of power, he can’t grow stronger fast enough to even reach the level of Popeye before he gets killed, he only surpassed Garou cuz they were close in power meanwhile Popeye is above universal Gods and that’s not even his highest scaling so until Saitama fights and beats his own God who made the universal then he can’t even scratch the balls do Popeye.
@gorgeousfreeman1318
@gorgeousfreeman1318 5 күн бұрын
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls comparing Saitama to Popeye is like comparing Frank down the street with Darkseid
@perturbedbatman2009
@perturbedbatman2009 6 ай бұрын
Saitama: “Are you sure you wanna fight me?” Popeye: “I’m a sailor from the 1940’s, fighting the Jappos is just what I do.”
@matthewzard
@matthewzard 6 ай бұрын
Best line I have ever heard
@marielyestella-morales5323
@marielyestella-morales5323 3 ай бұрын
Popeyes form the 20s idot
@atariboy9084
@atariboy9084 6 ай бұрын
FUN FACT Popeye was SUPER beloved and popular in Japan so much so that Popeye Arcade by Nintendo was designed by Genyo Takeda and Shigeru Miyamoto. Previously, Nintendo had originally intended to make a video game based on the Popeye characters, but was denied a license, so the mostly original characters of Mario, Donkey Kong, and Pauline were developed for Donkey Kong (1981).
@nutcrackit7396
@nutcrackit7396 6 ай бұрын
I would love a popeye game like cuphead nowadays.
@zacharybartolo5111
@zacharybartolo5111 6 ай бұрын
It warms my heart to know that old western cartoons inspired other countries to make their own.
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 6 ай бұрын
Like Megaman originating from Astro Boy XD
@slick_rickgaming1102
@slick_rickgaming1102 6 ай бұрын
Popeye for Smash Bros
@sintanan469
@sintanan469 6 ай бұрын
@@zacharybartolo5111 You could day anime fans are furries. See, anime was inspired by creating human characters based on noodle style anination like Popeye and Mickey Mouse and the characters of Tex Avery. So anime is human characters based off anthropomorphic characters. So anime is Japanese furry art of humans.
@dakaraipatterson2986
@dakaraipatterson2986 6 ай бұрын
Nux: db takes feats at face value Also nux: taking every saitama feat at face value
@Gremlin969
@Gremlin969 6 ай бұрын
cause they're logically justified to be taken literally
@dakaraipatterson2986
@dakaraipatterson2986 6 ай бұрын
@etherealbeing69 its just hypocrisy. Toons can literally do whatever they want. If saitama fought mickey mouse or bugs bunny, it would be the same result. Hell if he fought bobobo(keeping it anime vs anime) it would be even worse
@TrashPanda90914
@TrashPanda90914 6 ай бұрын
​@dakaraipatterson2986 right... because there wasn't a ton of favouritism going on for Popeye, huh 😂
@dakaraipatterson2986
@dakaraipatterson2986 6 ай бұрын
@@TrashPanda90914 there is none. If you can show me in the video, I will admit it
@TrashPanda90914
@TrashPanda90914 6 ай бұрын
@@dakaraipatterson2986 now who's the hypocrite 💀
@alvaroromero8745
@alvaroromero8745 6 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, it might´ve been a one-sided battle, but it was also beautiful, seeing him finally feel the struggle, the emotion, the FIGHT within him, and how the flame he once thought diminished, was igniting again (even if it was one last time).
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 6 ай бұрын
*_"Give the man to me and he'll be wanting a different career, or just revert him into a faker, even make it all a mere dream to the author's own. For Popeye's case... He'll be driven more insane then the Tattletale Strangler."_* Obscure referencing jests aside, yes this battle is gorgeous.
@spectated8159
@spectated8159 6 ай бұрын
I dunno, the entire fight seemed to completely misrepresent saitama as a whole, taking very little of his story into account, and just plain making fun of him with Popeye. I mean, we saw how Saitama appeared when he felt the joy of battle again in the FIRST EPISODE, and here they just made him seem like a happy-go-lucky idiot gracefully accepting death. If there was one thing I absolutely despise Death Battle for, it's how they misrepresent so many of the losers in favor of propping up the winner.
@ThePantyIntelligenceAgency
@ThePantyIntelligenceAgency 6 ай бұрын
Cringe
@louzo5175
@louzo5175 6 ай бұрын
its one sided battle and the loosing side is popaye
@tananatana4011
@tananatana4011 6 ай бұрын
@@louzo5175 THE SALT IS REAL
@Vyloka
@Vyloka 6 ай бұрын
Ive legit never seen nux this intensely coping. Popeye literally said no to his version of GOD AND AN ANIMATOR who were above any sense of physics. Popeye is God level X2 basically. Or infinityX3 basically in terms of any sense of comprehension. Even then its not a measurement. This fight is an sword that can eventually pierce anything versus a shield that cant be pierced by anything the sword can do on a physical plane.
@b3rz3rk3r9
@b3rz3rk3r9 5 ай бұрын
If he keeps abusing that copium, we'll have to send him to rehab
@tikket10
@tikket10 5 ай бұрын
what he saying is true though, if popeye ignores saitamas punches, saitama will just grow to literal infinite strength, removing everything known to humanity including popeye and his comics + writers essentially
@Lonk2976
@Lonk2976 5 ай бұрын
​@@tikket10 Based on what? Saying "his power just keeps on growing" is a huge no limits fallacy, where you're saying that just because a limit hasn't been shown, we have to assume there are none at all There's no evidence that Saitama could grow anywhere near as strong as Popeye even if the fight went on for 1,000 years
@tikket10
@tikket10 5 ай бұрын
@@Lonk2976 there is. its called having no limits.
@Lonk2976
@Lonk2976 5 ай бұрын
@@tikket10 What proof is there that Saitama has no limits? Please, go on And no, "he's a gag character" isn't enough
@PauloJrchannel
@PauloJrchannel 6 ай бұрын
"Saitama's gimmick is that he always surpasses his opponent!" Yeah, and Popeye's gimmick is that he always wins after eating his spinach. Even if we go by this "gimmick" logic, Popeye still takes it lol
@mirzapramudya1580
@mirzapramudya1580 4 ай бұрын
You mean Popeye's gimmick??
@PauloJrchannel
@PauloJrchannel 4 ай бұрын
@@mirzapramudya1580 How did I mistype his whole name without noticing? lol
@gcthesequel3241
@gcthesequel3241 16 күн бұрын
both of those gimmicks are the same thing and you agreed they both are their gimmicks, so what you just said right now is extremely hypocritical as you believe popeye's gimmick is better than saitama's when they are the same thing, BUT saitama actually has feats while popeye has none
@PauloJrchannel
@PauloJrchannel 16 күн бұрын
@@gcthesequel3241 Popeye ignored the universe being erased around him. Popeye beat a 4-D God in arm wrestling. Popeye defeated a 7-D jeep in a fist fight. Popeye can exit his cartoon and knock out the animator drawing him. Popeye could come back from being erased from existence. Popeye can punch someone so fast that they go back in time. Popeye can punch someone so hard he rips up the cartoon strip and the opponent falls off the animation frames.
@gcthesequel3241
@gcthesequel3241 16 күн бұрын
@@PauloJrchannel wtf does 7d mean you are just saying things without thinking
@filipvadas7602
@filipvadas7602 6 ай бұрын
The thing is that, even if we took into consideration Saitama's recent feats, he would *still* lose to Popeye because that's just how insurmountable the gap in power between them is. The former breaks the rules of his own universe quite easily, but Popeye literally never obeyed any to begin with. Which, to be fair, is pretty true to the character.
@astoron8398
@astoron8398 6 ай бұрын
yeah basically even if saitama could overpower popeye with strength, speed, whatever else popeye can just go nu uh and out bullshit him.
@regionfuego6
@regionfuego6 6 ай бұрын
Counter argument: The scope of the fight would have been WAY bigger, with galaxies exploding and such. He still would lose, but it would have been so much cooler!
@Vanlifecrisis
@Vanlifecrisis 6 ай бұрын
But once encountering popeye, saitama will gain the same ability but be better at it. That is his power. Popeye ability is to have toon bullshit power. Saitama gets better bullshit toon power (whatever that is) so popeye will lose. This is the garou fight just with different abilities (both fights break reality btw).
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 6 ай бұрын
I also recall that Popeye's Cosmology is decently massive: Remember that Popeye has shrugged off all of his Cosmology shutting down + knocked out the creators that were there... Now I am going by memory here, but the Popeye verse has approximately 7 or 8 Dimensions at most and he survived all of it. Popeye has a shit ton more hax TOO LONG to name here that will STILL put the whole current "Saitama surpasses Popeye" To absolute shame as it is. Pops speed if it wasn't already ludicrous enough, is not Massively Faster Then Light, but is technically Immeasurable just from the fact Pops outfought those already enhanced by Spinach *without being under the effect, in base form basically (the same Spinach that is powerful enough pull a Flash through time already!)* functions fine from the absence of said Cosmology and through it, etc... Also it's not much, but about the whole *"But he is racist!"* Ordeal, sure what Pops did was terrible... *But it's not really the bigger picture when you think about it:* Bro literally had his own colored uncle ben that taught him responsibility + much like other Toons who did some insensitive stuff today have become much better people regardless, they were born smack dab in the middle of differing times for crying out loud so we gotta cut them slack there (I.E: Bugs and Mickey doing some racist stuff that were considered the norm, but now they have no problem being with these people).
@leonardorolingstella8554
@leonardorolingstella8554 6 ай бұрын
It’s like the Goku vs Superman fight. Even if Goku can surpass his limits, Superman never had limits to begin with
@mentaya11
@mentaya11 6 ай бұрын
Another thing fans of Saitama should consider is that it should be flattering that they picked a toon to go up against him. You *know* they wanted to use Saitama but weren't sure who to pit him against. They didn't want it to be a stomp, so they wanted someone they thought could feasibly beat him. The fact that they picked a toon before researching because they thought that was the power level necessary to reasonably fight him is an insane testament to how strong he is.
@leonardorolingstella8554
@leonardorolingstella8554 6 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure that happened in the SpongeBob vs Aquaman fight. They picked them both bcs they were losers, and later they realized that SpongeBob was capable of destroying entire universes and that Aquaman’s best feats were literally garbage
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 6 ай бұрын
@@leonardorolingstella8554 Not even ACTUAL AQUAMEN could best SB however, and SB isn't one I would call truly a loser upon a closer lens. Also, put Saitama against SCP-682 and it will end *much more terribly!* And I mean the lizard has become powerful to the point the whole concept of evolutionary surpassing's are useless against the SCP. For all of Saitama's documented stats, is not *as sheerly broken* as he's currently made out to be XD.
@mentaya11
@mentaya11 6 ай бұрын
I think so too. I think they picked them, found out it was onesided, then decided to just run with that gag.@@leonardorolingstella8554
@clauro6153
@clauro6153 6 ай бұрын
​@@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398You know the damn lizard doesn't always win, it always survives. It probably would become something that couldn't be hurt, like when it created extra eyes against Peanut.
@DeathWatchChampion
@DeathWatchChampion 6 ай бұрын
​@@clauro6153it doesn't always survive though, it's called the hard to destroy reptile not the impossible to destroy reptile. Whatever ended the world in O death killed the lizard too. He hid from the sun in when day breaks, hes died in a couple scp tales too if i remember right
@SebasTian58323
@SebasTian58323 6 ай бұрын
This death battle happened before the fight nux is referring to, but likely still wouldn't help him win cause Popeye can still occupy two places at once, enough to hit himself, he can still come back from nothing, and he can still punch Saitama into a bunch of eggs.
@TheUncivilizedNation
@TheUncivilizedNation 6 ай бұрын
If Popeye got sent into the past he would just wait until the day of the fight. If he’s sent to the future he’ll eat some spinach before running so fast he’s catapulted back in time to the day of the fight
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 6 ай бұрын
@@TheUncivilizedNation Not that it matters either, as Pops has long acknowledged plotting shortcuts and bitch slap Saitama anyways XD. Bare in mind: Pops has already resisted and bested opponents under those same Spinach effects (that is fast enough to go back in time Flash style)... Normally, meaning Pops was not under ANY STREAKS OF SPINACH. I guess it's just that conceptually etched inside Pops that he became far more built different then other users. Oh, and Pops Cosmology compared to Saitama's: *is 7-8 Spatial Dimensions huger.*
@louzo5175
@louzo5175 6 ай бұрын
yeah, but saitama did the same thing at the start of his journey when he still had hair he turned so fast he could see back of his own head
@TimeToGetAGoodLife
@TimeToGetAGoodLife 6 ай бұрын
@@louzo5175 That's just light and relativity. If you could move near enough to the speed of light, you could do the same thing, theoretically.
@Trollamollex
@Trollamollex 6 ай бұрын
Not to mention that Saitama's greatest feat is bullsht
@dragonoverlord2010
@dragonoverlord2010 6 ай бұрын
I said it on the original video, and I'll say it here. Win or lose, Saitama got what he always wanted. A real fight where he finally got to push himself. Seeing him happy brings a little tear to my eye.
@MatthewTeachout-xj4yy
@MatthewTeachout-xj4yy 6 ай бұрын
So they both won in that case
@kaddindefiant
@kaddindefiant 6 ай бұрын
The cope is insane
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 6 ай бұрын
@@kaddindefiant If Saitama can best 7-8th dimensional beings at bare minimum, I can see him matching Pops... But currently it's STILL not looking good for our dear Caped Calliou over here XD.
@what2569
@what2569 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398Yeah I agree, I don’t see Saitama knocking out his own animator while he’s being drawn. I dont even know if Saitama can even harm Popeye, he survived reality being turned off. My mans is built different 💀
@PurpleHeartE54
@PurpleHeartE54 6 ай бұрын
​@@kaddindefiant It's acceptable at least. What are you smoking?
@Neutra77
@Neutra77 6 ай бұрын
Nux: 'Copes and seethes the entire video.' Nux, at the end: "I can't be mad."
@mentaya11
@mentaya11 6 ай бұрын
Well, in his defense, he was mad at the power scaling and the logic used, he thought the animation and storyboarding for the fight were epic so he couldn't be mad at the result.
@Neutra77
@Neutra77 6 ай бұрын
@@mentaya11 Indeed. He kind of does that with a lot of them. Especially when he's biased for the loser.
@mentaya11
@mentaya11 6 ай бұрын
I just appreciate that he acknowledges his biases and admires the good work done even when he disagrees with them. That's part of what keeps me coming back to watch his reactions.@@Neutra77
@Neutra77
@Neutra77 6 ай бұрын
@@mentaya11 Fair enough, I'm the same.
@ashedits4_
@ashedits4_ 6 ай бұрын
@@mentaya11the results were right even if the scaling sucked
@felix_patriot
@felix_patriot 6 ай бұрын
Anime fans when Saitama can bench planets from doing 100 pushups, sit ups, squats and a 10km run every day: *"Seems legit. Totally fair."* Anime fans when Popeye can destroy stars because he eats his spinach: *"THIS IS RIDICULOUS!" I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'RE TAKING THAT SERIOUSLY!*
@CB-eo6xo
@CB-eo6xo 5 ай бұрын
Double standards sure are a thing for biased anime fans, huh?
@devilassassin2591
@devilassassin2591 Ай бұрын
One punch man fans*, not anime fans lol. I like the show but hated fandoms too, they thinks Saitama can beat anyone in fiction but he's not even universal yet, what a fodder lmao
@MrDamienBane
@MrDamienBane 6 ай бұрын
Nux, my lad how we gonna calculate anything from Popeye if we dont treat it seriously. The man is a rubber hose era cartoon, everything he does is a gag. This isnt a one off joke where the protagonist rolls over when they're asleep and dodges lasers, its Popeye's entire existence.
@sharkjumpingwalrus6744
@sharkjumpingwalrus6744 6 ай бұрын
This is a lot like Hercules Vs. The Monkey King. Strength alone doesn't matter when the enemy can play by their own rules. There are characters who can beat Popeye, but those characters either have abilities that are so poorly defined that the moment the rules doesn't apply they can effectively adapt to Popeyes shenanigans, or they have abilities that can enforce those rules to prevent these shenanigans. Hell, in terms of strongest gag anime characters, Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo is so chaotic and overpowered in terms of abilities that he literally drives his enemies insane.
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 6 ай бұрын
Well said.
@NoESanity
@NoESanity 6 ай бұрын
Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo vs Axe Cop would be a good fight.
@elfmonster1476
@elfmonster1476 6 ай бұрын
@@NoESanity I'd watch the FUCK outta that!
@rafaelangelsolo
@rafaelangelsolo 6 ай бұрын
Toonforce. Popeye is over-powered on his own, but toonforce shenanigans is going to win by default.
@MestreWukong
@MestreWukong 6 ай бұрын
Up bro
@namecomingsoon9517
@namecomingsoon9517 6 ай бұрын
This death battle caused a big change in the channel. Every db before this they use clips from shows and let the audio play out like the characters saying a catchphrase or something. This video got a strike for using a clip from One Punch Man. So they changed it and removed audio from both clips or popeye and saitama. Every db afterwards they no longer use clips with audio and just write lines for themselves to introduce characters
@MasterofInterspace
@MasterofInterspace 6 ай бұрын
... Okay? I mean, what else do you take literally? If Popeye punches a tree and it forms into a bridge magically, is that supposed to not be a feat? Why, cause it's unrealistic? Punching someone so hard it hits them before the fight starts is unrealistic too. Should that not be counted?
@SFgamer
@SFgamer 5 ай бұрын
"Punching someone so hard it hits them before the fight starts is unrealistic too" There is such thing as shockwave
@MasterofInterspace
@MasterofInterspace 5 ай бұрын
@@SFgamer shockwaves tend to follow the action, not precede them.
@Mungdaal304
@Mungdaal304 3 ай бұрын
@@MasterofInterspace shut his ass up lmao
@BrazilianMongoose
@BrazilianMongoose 6 ай бұрын
I feel like it’s a bit unfair to say they took the toonforce feats “too seriously”. I mean, bullshit or not, he still did it. They can’t just look at that and say he didn’t do it. He still occupied two places at once, which is impossible to calculate, but it’s still a real feat, toonforce or not
@Skyinitus
@Skyinitus 6 ай бұрын
So you think the measurements of the 'test of strength' to the sun measurement was a reasonable way to figure any sort of relevant information on what Popeye can do?
@BrazilianMongoose
@BrazilianMongoose 6 ай бұрын
@@Skyinitus It was interesting, and they had already gotten most things out of the way so I don’t see why not include it
@Skyinitus
@Skyinitus 6 ай бұрын
I mention because that kinda specifically isn't a good faith take. It takes something outside a context it was ever meant to be considered in, as it was only ever meant to be a visual joke. Taking the context of Popeyes story being that he eats spinach and wins the fight frankly isn't that different from Saitama's role within his story. Both are indestructable, both are incredibly strong within their stories. If both of them have their feats and stories taken seriusly, I don't see a case where either can win. @@BrazilianMongoose
@Noot_Penguin
@Noot_Penguin 6 ай бұрын
​@@SkyinitusBoth being "unbeatable" in their world doesn't mean a stalemate. You simply look at other factors like how powerful are their worlds, what abilities they have, etc. And yeah its obvious popeye has saitama beat like massively
@Skyinitus
@Skyinitus 6 ай бұрын
This is part of why I kinda dislike Toon Force as a power-scaling concept. If you try to put someone without it against someone that does, the fight s decided before it ever could've begun depending on how serious it is taken. Why test anything other than a toon against it if that is the case? Its absurd. And in the process of using Toon Force as a power scaling concept, you are taking the context of exactly one side of the fight. A Toon can only act as a Toon because of Toon Force. Everything else has some degree of rules. Toon Force basically has none. And only works in the context of a Toon. 'A toon cannot die' or any of the other various things. Its disingenuous to take one setting into such high account while otherwise ignoring the other. And that's all anything that involves Toon Force does. @@Noot_Penguin
@Lonk2976
@Lonk2976 6 ай бұрын
"You can't take the fact that his creator said he's an end of series character slapped at the beginning of his series as a power feat" I find this so hilarious given that most Saitama fanboys do this exact thing with the "gag character" argument
@SFgamer
@SFgamer 5 ай бұрын
Gag and parody are to different things. In Saitama case, he was a unique case. He is a legit overpowered character (maxed out stats at the get go), plus his strength increases over course of battle.
@Lonk2976
@Lonk2976 5 ай бұрын
@@SFgamer We don't know to what extent, though. "He's a gag character" can't be used to justify him being able to do anything he wants. I can say something like "If someone went back in time to kill Saitama as a child, he'd die in the present," which is a completely logical statement, and someone would still say "But he's a gag character so nuh uh"
@spookycaffiene8499
@spookycaffiene8499 2 ай бұрын
@@Lonk2976 yeah it just depends on the writing. think about it, if someone in the show time traveled to kill baby saitama, do you really think the writers would let it happen? he can time travel too, so theyd probably make him save himself or something like that. hes a gag character so it doesnt make sense to put him against anyone with measurable feats because the writer is the one who decides the winner.
@1-upanimations878
@1-upanimations878 6 ай бұрын
37:02 Nux, you’re forgetting that Popeye was able to eat spinach when nothing was there. Nothing ate the spinach and Popeye came back to life. Also, the Serious Punch^2 is already calculated at Multi-Solar System. And I give off an estimation that at the end of the fight, Saitama should be most likely Galaxy Lvl; though it is noteworthy that it took quite a bit of time for Saitama to reach that level. Meanwhile, Popeye with Spinach can just survive his Universe getting turned off like it’s nothing. If we don’t take feats as shown and be disingenuous, then how can we say its a proper vs matchup?
@MarcoAntonioMoralesLopez
@MarcoAntonioMoralesLopez 6 ай бұрын
I agree, Rules of popeye Rule 1: if he gets his spinach he always wins Rule 2: he always gets his spinach
@Skyinitus
@Skyinitus 6 ай бұрын
And thus far the rules of Saitama in his series are: Rule 1: Saitama is always arrives to the fight just a bit too late. Rule 2: Saitama always wins the fight Really simple when you look at it like that isn't it? @@MarcoAntonioMoralesLopez
@MarcoAntonioMoralesLopez
@MarcoAntonioMoralesLopez 6 ай бұрын
Midtama vs goatpeye
@MarcoAntonioMoralesLopez
@MarcoAntonioMoralesLopez 6 ай бұрын
Do you unironically think saitama even had a chance?
@Skyinitus
@Skyinitus 6 ай бұрын
Should've frankly. Toons can die, and for all intents and purposes Saitama doesn't function that much differently within his story to how a Toon might. Him moving a Portal is just like the kind of thing Bugs Bunny literally does with holes in his cartoons. Besides, taking Toon Force seriously means taking the context of the different characters creative Intention to some degree. Popeye eats spinach to become unbeatable. Saitama just is unbeatable. If you want to take toon force seriously, then you have to take the creative intention f whatever media you're comparing that logic against seriously too. @@MarcoAntonioMoralesLopez
@Mr_Muda_Himself
@Mr_Muda_Himself 6 ай бұрын
Nux: Saitama should’ve won because his gag is that he adapts to anything Death Battle: no his gag is he’s a end of series protagonist stuck at the start of it Nux:well he shouldn’t be judged on what his gag is.
@harundoener
@harundoener 6 ай бұрын
It's also stupid saying, "He surpasses his opponent, that is his gag." Almost all MC in anime eventually surpass their opponent 💀 thats how a villain gets defeated.
@Gremlin969
@Gremlin969 6 ай бұрын
@@harundoener saitama isnt just any mc tho, hes one punch man whos purposely set to be stronger than his opponent no matter what they are
@harundoener
@harundoener 6 ай бұрын
@@Gremlin969 as Death battle has said in the conclusion. Saitama does not have an ability thats lets him defeat anyone automatically with one punch. He just happens to be stronger than anyone in his universe. Thats the joke, but if someone was stronger than him he would loose. But noone is in his world. People should get it in their head that he is a parody character and not really a gag character like Arele for example.
@ashedits4_
@ashedits4_ 6 ай бұрын
Nux just hates death battle for having ( some L fights though some of them can be reasonable because some of the fights happened before the one that lost got big ass power boost ) but most death battle now a days are right
@Gremlin969
@Gremlin969 6 ай бұрын
@@harundoener They didn't do the research on Saitama properly thatswhy it seemed that way but the creator of Opm literally made Saitama to where no matter what the ability or opponent faced against him he can just one punch them, it doesnt subject to a specific possibility, literally in a generic sense, Saitama's literal power is that he can one punch away anything despite rules saying otherwise, we literally saw the dude punch through an astral dimension, and not be affected to mind hax cause dude just didn't care, we saw him flip a hyperspace portal, literally a rift through spacetime when its physically impossible, all it lines with Saitama's invincibility he has after limit breaking and literally designed to have an invincible power. When you say he doesn't have "abilities" to counter this, you're literally missing the key aspect that he was literally made to not have abilities and brute his way out, against beings who manipulate the reality of the cosmos, even the monster God who's literally stated to be higher dimensional. He was literally stated to transcend spacetime and causality, so hes way more than brute strength and literally deviates from the physical laws of his verse as a result of gags.
@DaniApfel
@DaniApfel 6 ай бұрын
If Saitama has no magical ability to 1 punch anything as you agreed, then why are you taking his wish at face value? and why take his exponential growth like it’s the most unstoppable thing in fiction?
@Chris1346
@Chris1346 6 ай бұрын
EXACTLY, NUX IS WAYYY TOO BIASED.
@jugo8001
@jugo8001 6 ай бұрын
@@Chris1346 well he did say he was biased so he’s not even tryna hide it lmao
@wetscrub90
@wetscrub90 6 ай бұрын
Oh my freaking god that exponential graph…It’s weird when people bring this graph up because… all manga and anime protags scale up in power when they encounter a tough fight. You could draw this graph for like any protag and it would remain true. It’s certainly true for Goku who unlocks new forms when he has to.
@Bear0601
@Bear0601 6 ай бұрын
@@wetscrub90it’s only talked about so much for Saitama because that’s how his literal power works lol. Other anime characters may get an “Anime Power Up Moment”, but for Saitama he just grows exponentially in strength to match, and exceed his opponent. It also disproves people trying to claim he has the power to beat foes in one punch.
@Gremlin969
@Gremlin969 6 ай бұрын
@@wetscrub90 pretty generic way to look down on the exponential growth and devaluate it but sure
@grapplermalegrindset5827
@grapplermalegrindset5827 4 ай бұрын
Popeye canonically beats silver age Superman
@bemasaberwyn55
@bemasaberwyn55 Ай бұрын
GotDAMN that's insane
@drockman92
@drockman92 Ай бұрын
I thought that was Golden Age?
@Maxilito-qt9hw
@Maxilito-qt9hw 6 ай бұрын
I don't think I've ever seen Nux huff his copium harder than this. My guy, its immersurable vs meassureable, even if Saitama continues to exponentialy grow through out the fight, his strength remains meassureable. Toon force. It's some serious bs. (Tbh, I have a personal theory that this is an indirect middle finger to the hordes demanding Saitama v Goku/Superman.)
@codebracker
@codebracker 6 ай бұрын
To be fair, it's not like Saitama is measurable
@mikonyx7712
@mikonyx7712 6 ай бұрын
As a fan of Saitama I will say, the reason why Saitama lost is because his fight against Popeye is a battle between a character that constantly defies logic and a character that never even had to consider it in the first place 😔
@Maxilito-qt9hw
@Maxilito-qt9hw 6 ай бұрын
@@mikonyx7712 yep, and still, I think DB made this match up just so people would shut up, like with the mask vs deadpool :v
@gorgeousfreeman1318
@gorgeousfreeman1318 5 ай бұрын
@@codebracker They literally say in the analysis it is.
@SFgamer
@SFgamer 5 ай бұрын
He is@@codebracker . But he grows when he is equally matched.
@housewilma4904
@housewilma4904 6 ай бұрын
this is one of the perfect of examples of "COME ON HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE THAT?" death battle is capable of at there best agree or disagree it makes alot of epic moments.
@fengshuimaster7880
@fengshuimaster7880 6 ай бұрын
I dont know why he was saying "uauauauagh they are taking it seriously" when they talked about his punches discombomulating things into different things. He was talking about how saitama benpressed two black wholes *on a manga cover* but popeye consistently doing that through the serious is too far, idk man. And even if you took scaling from the end of garous fight with saitama it doesnt matter, popeye is just too durable and has both the hax and power to kill him.
@frostaminimations1785
@frostaminimations1785 6 ай бұрын
Ah yes "I'm mad they're taking saitama seriously using the info available at the time and not future info they'd have no way of knowing but how dare they take popeye seriously with the info available"
@bemasaberwyn55
@bemasaberwyn55 Ай бұрын
Right 😂😂
@DolphyBlueDrake
@DolphyBlueDrake 6 ай бұрын
Nux: Rants about Saitama being able to "surpass toon force". Toon Force: If it's funny, it's possible. Popeye winning is funny, so he wins. Cope and seethe, weaboos.
@shinymetagross1666
@shinymetagross1666 6 ай бұрын
Yet another "My character's feats are super cool and my interpretation of them is absolute fact/the other character's feats should be disregarded and nothing they have done is to be taken seriously" reaction from Nux. The salt levels are unreal.
@intelotaku9651
@intelotaku9651 6 ай бұрын
Damn, there was a HUGE amount of cope in this episode from Nux. It's a first time for me. It didn't matter what universe Saitama would've been in, he still would've lost off the pure fact that Popeye is an old timey cartoon character with toon force. Saitama could go back in time or whatever he was talking about, punch him, he'd die and then his dead body would eat spinach. Popeye would punch him again he'd turn into eggs, fight is over. It's just that simple of a concept. He can't surpass a limit that doesn't exist. Popeye just had better hax, aka, Toon Force.
@nephel6158
@nephel6158 6 ай бұрын
I don't think Nux ever said that Saitama can beat Popeye (other than when he was arguing that if the fight took place in OPM's world), just that the fight would have been far closer.
@H4L0GUY117
@H4L0GUY117 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@nephel6158it can never be close, popeye "can just say no to damage" saitama doesn't have that as an option
@louzo5175
@louzo5175 6 ай бұрын
yeah but even toon force isn't end all be all it still bends to logic, and what's the most funny to example, a character would only turn to items when its knocked out, kind of like faint in pokemon and if saitama punches pop aye into another universe, hell still die because that's how plot strings work you loose when you're out of were the camera can follow you feasibly to stay in one setting of course there's still can be a gag were pop aye is on another planet in a crator, beat up with some aliens eating spinach and flying back, but saitama does the same quate frequently pop aye will still show up some time later though toon force - is what writers say it is, and he still takes damage same way toon force makes popaye take
@Skyinitus
@Skyinitus 6 ай бұрын
Using Toon Force as a Strength Feat at all is frankly cringe. Saitama is a satire character, one that basically has the anime equivalent of Toon Force. In that he always wins all his fights without any real strain on his part. Hitting him with something on par with him just seems to make him stronger, without hurting him in any meaningful way. Saitama is a exponential growth Curve that only grows more exponentially powerful when hit with something that could potentially be considered to pose a threat to him. Even if you want to claim Toon Force, the only fair conclusion would be that if because Toon Force Popeye is literally unkillable at all for any reason whatsoever, then Saitama would reach that same point and the fight would just be a standstill where nobody could win or loose.
@louzo5175
@louzo5175 6 ай бұрын
toon force isnt always force, its a plot conviniense of showcase of strength, wich saitama has the same amount
@dillpickle7400
@dillpickle7400 6 ай бұрын
They never wiped out universes in the Garou fight 😂 You think this is Goku vs Beerus?
@Wolf-bz6kq
@Wolf-bz6kq 6 ай бұрын
They only way to beat a classic cartoon is to make them laugh to death Seriously I believe only reality warpers are the only ones who can take on a cartoon
@SonoKurisu
@SonoKurisu 6 ай бұрын
"laughs in SCP 3812" which beats Popeye by making the guy in the real world who created Popeye never have written him into existence.
@mattblaster2378
@mattblaster2378 6 ай бұрын
@@SonoKurisusince when has turning off reality stop Popeye
@tlkfanrwbyfan8716
@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 6 ай бұрын
@@SonoKurisuPopeye literally stopped existed and still came back. My man didn’t watch the video lmao
@treyjordan3168
@treyjordan3168 6 ай бұрын
@@SonoKurisu Popeye survived God turning Reality OFF, SCP-3812 would get a Mud Hole stomped into Him
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398
@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 6 ай бұрын
@@SonoKurisu That unfortunately will not work on Pops for reasons stated here. Hell, there is this other character I know who already functioned from nothingness too + has layers of fictions under more fictions (one of which is the real world still being fictional, then there's our actual documented real world events), functioned in realms where logic/laws apply differently amongst other OP Acasuality Shenanigans, etc. Etc.
@user-aeb87825
@user-aeb87825 6 ай бұрын
27:30 yeah but unfortunately, this episode was made BEFORE the Saitama vs Garou fight. But I think even then Popeye is still too godly.
@Lobsterwithinternet
@Lobsterwithinternet 19 күн бұрын
The best Saitama can hope for is a situation where Popeye can't lose and he can't win so they'd both fight for eternity like Segata vs Chuck Norris.
@xandred_bass1011
@xandred_bass1011 6 ай бұрын
Take a shot every time Nux says the word "surpass"
@Destroyanor
@Destroyanor 6 ай бұрын
He took a big gamble. Now he is scrambled. I am Popeye the sailor man. had me crying
@DarkJJ13948
@DarkJJ13948 6 ай бұрын
While I wanna make fun of Nux and my friends whenever there's a DB that has them like "THIS CHARACTER SHOULD'VE WON", I remember I've never been a die-hard fan of a show like that, so there's every chance that if I was, I'd probably be just as in my feelings if a character I felt should've won didn't
@YamchaCanDoBettr
@YamchaCanDoBettr 6 ай бұрын
Even if the time-traviling feat was available during the making of this fight, i still think Popeye would win. He's survived his reality being turned off. He's survived being erase from existence. Both happened before he ate his spinach. I like Saitama and i hoped he would've won this but i knew that he didnt stand much of a chance against Popeye and all the bullshit he's capable of. Just like whenever they did The Mask vs Deadpool.
@acesburned
@acesburned 6 ай бұрын
They never actually let Saitama explain his whole workout after he mentions the 100 push-ups, 100 situps, 100 squats, and 10k run he also mentions how he doesn't use AC in summer or heating in Winter and I believe he also mentioned only eating a banana for breakfast before he was interrupted because nobody took him seriously so there's still a lot we don't know about his actual workout.
@TrashPanda90914
@TrashPanda90914 6 ай бұрын
Plot twist bro was juiced to the gills this whole time
@GSSAGE7
@GSSAGE7 6 ай бұрын
Okay boys and girls, how many times do you think Nux says a variation on "I'm not mad," during this video?
@BurningBridgeStudios
@BurningBridgeStudios 4 ай бұрын
The headcanon here really went crazy... It was literally never stated anywhere in the entire fight that Saitama "AUTOMATICALLY grows stronger than his opponent" ... ... It was... It was literally just that Saitama and Garou were both consistently getting stronger and Saitama was just getting stronger faster. I'm genuinely so confused on whether Nux is just trolling or not.
@angelbabydragon
@angelbabydragon 6 ай бұрын
35:14 “That’s all I can stands cause’ I can’t stands NO MORE!” One of the most famous Popeye quotes. Also used to state the facts that he has nothing to stand upon (surface/sun) and that he is not gonna hold back.
@THENemesisXX99
@THENemesisXX99 6 ай бұрын
I wonder if we're ever gonna get a battle where the title isn't "A ONE SIDED MASSACRE" or any other substitute. Funny how we got similar for Courage and Scoob despite that being a draw.
@BigAl2-u7e
@BigAl2-u7e 6 ай бұрын
It's for the clickbait
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606 6 ай бұрын
9:35 It's Obsession; that truck person saitama hit in episode one, he was a guy that tricked out cars to make them look cool and go fast; He didn't know JACK SHIT about cybernetic enhancement, yet by the power of his obsession, he was able to trick himself out. There's no way he could have possibly known how, a normal person would have bled out trying, but he did it. The same goes for Saitama. He was obsessed with becoming "the strongest hero who can defeat any enemy in one punch" and so, even with a comparatively lackluster training regime, he did it.
@33Isaiah96
@33Isaiah96 6 ай бұрын
Chosen undeas vs dragon is a banger of a death battle.
@FranTheNerd
@FranTheNerd 6 ай бұрын
still hoping for guts vs dimitri but anyhow, love this fight and although saitama's continuous growth in the manga makes this a lil outdated- it's still hard to argue saitama could withstand this level of toon force much less come close to killing someone with toon force.
@hunterculpepper1973
@hunterculpepper1973 6 ай бұрын
I mean how it's explained he might be able to beat goku if he lets satime break his limits to the point he'd be a match for him like goku normally does
@hunterculpepper1973
@hunterculpepper1973 6 ай бұрын
Guts vs Dimitri was even for the incarnations if they used Dimitri at his strongest who beat his grithith and opponent a whose arguable stronger
@FranTheNerd
@FranTheNerd 6 ай бұрын
@@hunterculpepper1973 yeah no, max potential dimitri puts him on par with veronica who in fire emblem heroes is potentially stronger than the gods of time, dreams and DEATH ITSELF Yes, he can be scaled to be on par with someone who beat death and time.
@FranTheNerd
@FranTheNerd 6 ай бұрын
@@hunterculpepper1973 We haven't seen Saitama's full potential durability, is the issue. If we know he could survive the shit popeye and goku could do- his power would ALWAYS grow until he's too much for him. But we just don't know enough about his full durability to make that claim.
@Skyinitus
@Skyinitus 6 ай бұрын
Thats kinda missing the point of Saitama. We are never going to see Saitama's true limits. Because IF they even exist, they don't matter. Its kinda part of the issue of taking this as a 'meassurable vs immeasurable' fight. Unless the author states otherwise, it doesn't seem there is a limit to Saitama's power. And If people want to act like Toon Force is the end-all-be-all, they should still aknowledge the fact that there are ways to permanently kill off toons. Hell. Sometimes it happens in some cartoons themselves. @@FranTheNerd
@germ_b_good915
@germ_b_good915 6 ай бұрын
You almost killed me at work with the Yoda pun 😂
@benjaminjara7312
@benjaminjara7312 5 ай бұрын
Nux when Caped Baldy disperses some stars: Hell yeah Nux when Sailor Man has an entire comic all about ignoring an universal god: : ,(
@ValleyChildX
@ValleyChildX 6 ай бұрын
I love that Nux always talks about how he’d do the show, which is always a very biased way Also while it wouldn’t help a lot, cause toon force, the fight Nux keeps alluding to wasn’t published at the time of making the DB.
@leofarron6135
@leofarron6135 6 ай бұрын
About as biased as how hard DB values Toon Force.
@Warking19
@Warking19 6 ай бұрын
Toon force is just busted​@@leofarron6135
@ValleyChildX
@ValleyChildX 6 ай бұрын
@@leofarron6135I don’t know if it’s necessary a bias, it’s just what you get if you try to numerically quantify an unrealistic and unquantifiable factor.
@tananatana4011
@tananatana4011 6 ай бұрын
@@leofarron6135 It's honestly the only way to properly quantify it. You can't just accept that Saitama's in universe thing is "I win", because you reach a paradox when he fights someone like Popeye whose entire in universe thing is also "I win", you need to go off of their feats literally, and in this case, Popeye just massively exceeded
@thelordofthewest7781
@thelordofthewest7781 6 ай бұрын
​@tananatana4011 good thing it doesn't take place in the nether universe and just goes by raw numbers and no gimmick other than their powers
@michaelrondan9481
@michaelrondan9481 6 ай бұрын
Im so glad someone else says OPM powers come from obsession. So many characters get powers based on their wants and obsessions.
@hyperdreamer9483
@hyperdreamer9483 6 ай бұрын
I’m just going to say this here. If Death Battle took into consideration how a character could grow stronger to match their opponent than literally every “Main Character” ever could never lose in Death Battle and “Main Character vs Main Character” would just be a forever statement of each one just growing stronger to match their opponent. The only way the find a winner is the use “Feats” and their “Abilities”, writing gimmicks or anything that’s not “In Universe” isn’t in consideration for Death Battle, where they take each character at the Most Recent maximum potential
@andrewharris1344
@andrewharris1344 6 ай бұрын
I agree that’s like adding goku gimmick that he always surpasses his limits and beats the enemy so he can beat Superman it’s it’s not fair to the opponent if their story doesn’t work the same.
@ojisanhoward8940
@ojisanhoward8940 6 ай бұрын
I love watching Nux get salty over his characters losing death battles! But at least he is self-aware of it.
@dawall3732
@dawall3732 6 ай бұрын
33:30 I think that death battle is the first time anyone's ever rendered Popeye the sailor man into a 3D animation.
@crimsonchaos7224
@crimsonchaos7224 6 ай бұрын
Still super hoping that Nux eventually watches Guts VS Dimitri. DIO VS Alucard and Goku Black VS Reverse Flash are also both awesome.
@texas-red8457
@texas-red8457 6 ай бұрын
Its funny seeing Nux so passionate about something that he starts yelling about it
@SamTheGumMan117
@SamTheGumMan117 6 ай бұрын
The guy Wimpy who constantly eats hamburgers could body Saitama no question this is overkill for Popeye
@articusramos808
@articusramos808 6 ай бұрын
Wimpy?
@SonoKurisu
@SonoKurisu 6 ай бұрын
LMAO "for a hamburger today I will gladly pay you back Tuesday"
@SamTheGumMan117
@SamTheGumMan117 6 ай бұрын
@articusramos808 Yes that dude 👏 thanks
@mabrurahmed7673
@mabrurahmed7673 6 ай бұрын
Overkill for Popeye doesn't really make any sense, since Saitama is the one getting demolished here.
@jotheunissen9274
@jotheunissen9274 6 ай бұрын
I knew Nux would get irritated by this Was not disappointed
@J.P1981
@J.P1981 6 ай бұрын
This is one of my favorite death battles ever.
@soulcyclone360
@soulcyclone360 6 ай бұрын
The last time they had a character that could "get stronger from fighting their opponent" the way you're describing how Saitama would do so in a fight was in Wonder Woman vs Rogue all the way back in season one of DeathBattle. Everyone called it BS, everyone was right because that was not how that fight would have played out between those two characters, and i guarantee this fight would get the same response regardless of how accurate it might be for Saitama.
@nitromiyazaki
@nitromiyazaki 6 ай бұрын
This was technically made before we learned how Saitama’s power scaled, but even still, it’s freaking Popeye. Even if your growth is infinite and exponential, it can’t catch up to infinity itself. And Toon force is a tier of infinity. Cosmic Garou is strong, sure, but Popeye is a whole other league of OP. That is… until Saitama fights god. We’ll see then just how truly strong Saitama really is. Unfortunately, the punching in the past Saitama did was very circumstantial. For one, while Saitama did learn how to punch back in time, he eventually forgot how to do that later since his past self caught up with his present, forcibly rewriting his memories of the events that took place against Cosmic Garou.
@webkarma9654
@webkarma9654 6 ай бұрын
I love how certain channels feel the need to explain in detail something completely different/loosely connected to what they where just talking about to prove a point
@thomblueart8448
@thomblueart8448 6 ай бұрын
This was easily my favorite death battle they ever made! And seeing Nux dying inside trying to hype up Saitama was fantastic!😂
@dillpickle7400
@dillpickle7400 6 ай бұрын
Saitama’s wish just made him a big fish in a small pond that’s it. It’s just SEMANTICS lol. If he was really above powerscaling then Garou would have never been able to match his power during the serious punch squared. The fact that he can grow just proves that he can get one shotted by someone who is literally trillions of times stronger than him. Mark My Words: Just wait until the GOD fight and you’ll see there’s SO MUCH MORE to his existence than what you fanboys claim he is.
@marioacosta-warren921
@marioacosta-warren921 6 ай бұрын
Popeye turned those native Americans into gold coins by the way. A reference to Indian casinos.
@ajjamsen694
@ajjamsen694 6 ай бұрын
30:35 "Hmmm...i cant read that..." I replayed that moment way too much 😆😆😆
@MidnightDStroyer
@MidnightDStroyer 6 ай бұрын
You know, I don't usually watch many KZfaqrs that have a stylized, animated model to represent themselves, mainly because you can never really tell what they're facial expressions are like. Even those that have facial tracking are difficult to sort out because the digital translation can easily be programmed to exaggerate or even muffle the YT'ers expressions. So when I say that I like watching Nux, that's saying something. He can make up for a lot of those particular "sins" through exaggerated vocal inflection & the occasional instance of vocal fading as he stands up & walks away from the microphone. All that being said, when Wiz & Boomstick were getting around to mathematically analyze 'Toon Force, of all things, I could *feel* his frustration & suffering *in spite of* the limitations on his avatar...And I enjoy every second of it! 😁 'Toon Force: As Roger Rabbit ("Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" movie) explained it to Detective Eddie Valiant, a 'toon can do *anything* as long as it's funny. That being said, if you can manage to demoralize a 'toon into losing all of its sense of humor, you win. In Popeye's case it's slightly different...He's not even trying to be funny, as he takes almost every situation with a measure of seriousness. The real difference is Spinach; there has been *nothing* capable of keeping Popeye separated from his spinach long enough to actually win. Saitama may be easily capable of breaking the Laws of Physics but for Popeye, the Laws of Physics is nothing more than a mildly whispered suggestion. All in all though, Nux was able to enjoy watching the fight regardless of its outcome...In essence, it means he can enjoy the fiction as the *entertainment* it's meant to be.
@SuperWindsage
@SuperWindsage 6 ай бұрын
Seriously though animation this is probabbly my most favorite death battle fight ever. Added with a touch of humor and some sincerity at the end for saitama.
@epicsoul8136
@epicsoul8136 6 ай бұрын
You should watch Guts vs Demitri next.
@murderofhawks1382
@murderofhawks1382 6 ай бұрын
Now I really want to see nux react to the guy who power scaled king of the hill.
@cottonmouthcaridin3297
@cottonmouthcaridin3297 6 ай бұрын
Remember watching this before they had to cut the audio on both characters outro screens, and dub Saitama’s workout routine clip. You win this round copyright
@Desones_Live
@Desones_Live 6 ай бұрын
Buuhan literally created an “Outside Space” ball that was gonna become the size of the entire universe if Vegito hadn’t of punched him. Compare that to Serious Punch Squared.
@sobakiin1797
@sobakiin1797 6 ай бұрын
One thing I loved is that I saw a comic that followed up the fight. popeye was sitting next to a chicken nesting, and then there was a cracking noise. Popeye said “Ah, you’re back.” As Saitama just sits in the nest with a chicken on his head.
@MrHardfoot
@MrHardfoot 4 ай бұрын
Saitama breaks the rules of reality, Popeye doesn't know what the rules are.
@wahoobidy4912
@wahoobidy4912 6 ай бұрын
The original fight ended with Saitama being one punched when he had that "FINALLY!" Moniloge with Popeye scratching his ass.
@malforeskirmish5925
@malforeskirmish5925 5 ай бұрын
They didn’t talk about the bigger garou stuff because it happened after the episode was made you can’t blame them for missing something that hadn’t happened at the time popeye would still kick his ass tho
@lucianolewin5088
@lucianolewin5088 6 ай бұрын
If Saitamas punch went back in time and killed Popeye before he first ate spinach it wouldint effect current day Popeye because he eats his spinach and Popeye would kill saitama before saitama could surpass him.
@ValleyChildX
@ValleyChildX 6 ай бұрын
The wild thing is, if this did come out after the Garou fight and the concept that Saitama will just always evolve beyond his opponent was part of his canon at point of airing this episode, what would the outcome actually be? Because toon force is essentially an unquantifiable value that can be whatever it needs to, and Saitama could always become more than that, so would there ever actually be a winner? Or would the math just continue to exponentially grow on both sides infinitely?
@jerod.saibot
@jerod.saibot 6 ай бұрын
As far as I know, Saitama needs time to adapt to and overcome his opponent. That means the Toon Force character would probably still win because they could just one tap him, in a funny way, before he adapts. At least that’s how I see it.
@ValleyChildX
@ValleyChildX 6 ай бұрын
@@jerod.saibotinteresting, I wasn’t sure if his evolution was a more immediate thing or had to take some unspecified amount of time. Overall I think at best he takes a draw, but I think he’s the only anime character who can take draws of old fashioned cartoon characters, which is impressive if ya think about it.
@KingBeckwood
@KingBeckwood 6 ай бұрын
​@@ValleyChildXalso Popeye is just gonna come back from anything saitama could throw at him
@jest5837
@jest5837 6 ай бұрын
If it makes you feel any better, Saitama is probably the only one that can even somewhat compete against anyone that has Toon Force. I love both of these characters so I didn't mind either way who wins.
@King_Ice01
@King_Ice01 6 ай бұрын
Even if they took Saitama’s most recent feats, it would have been far, far from enough to deal with Popeye
@Gremlin969
@Gremlin969 6 ай бұрын
far more than enough to obliterate popeye*
@King_Ice01
@King_Ice01 6 ай бұрын
@@Gremlin969 keep dreaming💀
@gorgeousfreeman1318
@gorgeousfreeman1318 5 ай бұрын
@@Gremlin969Cope and Seethe
@bleh6809
@bleh6809 5 ай бұрын
@@King_Ice01not even close, popeye can just transmutate saitama by punching him once, has saitama ever shown a resistance to that?
@GERARDO-dq7ib
@GERARDO-dq7ib 6 ай бұрын
I swear to God the first time I read the title of the video I saw Saitama vs The Pope and it was hilarious to me 😂.
@zavexcapricious2519
@zavexcapricious2519 6 ай бұрын
While I can respect Nux not 100% agreeing with the Death Battle, the way he acts about it is something he really needs to shut up with sometimes, cause by god its ridiciously how salty he can get with these for very little things
@Labyrinth6000
@Labyrinth6000 6 ай бұрын
YES!!! I wanted this! Thanks Nux!
@Topmoments-fq6ck
@Topmoments-fq6ck 6 ай бұрын
This is gonna be the excellent video
@mentaya11
@mentaya11 6 ай бұрын
Nux, I want to say why I truly enjoy watching your reactions to these battles. 1: you are animated in your reactions. You give feedback, disagree, defend your point, discuss. It makes enough extra content to be worth watching. 2: You don't always agree with me or with Death Battle (not that I always agree with them either) *but* you still listen to their arguments and recognize where the fight is going. 3: you give credit where credit is due. Even when you hate the outcome or the techniques used in the fight, you show proper appreciation for a job well done in the animation and storytelling. 4: No matter how salty you may get, and no matter how much you might disagree with the outcome, you still appreciate when a feat you didn't know would prove you wrong and (sometimes) admit your stance might be the wrong one by the end. So many butthurt fanboys of *any* of these characters will die on a hill regardless of the data. You might disagree or pull up other feats, but I've also seen you acknowledge when you were wrong too. (Namely Goku v. Superman) I respect that. Please keep it up. I love Death Battle. I love the nonsense power scaling that serves no real purpose in real life. I also very much enjoy your takes on their videos and both your agreements and disagreements with them. Thank you.
@mentaya11
@mentaya11 6 ай бұрын
I also wanted to add 5: you recognize your biases. Such as in this one. You are biased for Saitama, but you also recognize, acknowledge and admit that bias. It makes it far more enjoyable to watch. And yes, toon force is stupid. It was never *meant* to be taken literally. But you kind of have to if you are going to try to make a "realistic" fight between a toon and anyone else. It results in some stupid calculation and in some ridiculous scaling, but the alternative is to either not use them, or just assume anything a toon does that is unrealistic is just not real and can't be counted. The former is less fun, as it means a whole category cannot be used, and the latter means characters like Popeye more or less get scaled down to tough street brawlers or military men. I prefer the way Death Battle does it, but I understand if you do not.
@kaddindefiant
@kaddindefiant 6 ай бұрын
Yip yap
@teenflash19
@teenflash19 6 ай бұрын
Okay *talking like death battle* (I mean you talking like them)
@mentaya11
@mentaya11 6 ай бұрын
? I don't understand your comment. Are you saying I sound like them? If so...thank you?@@teenflash19
@Cleron_O_Andarilho
@Cleron_O_Andarilho 6 ай бұрын
Its not about "find a way to Saitama win" its who would win most of that in general.
@xgamernamex
@xgamernamex 6 ай бұрын
6:59 he actually punched so hard that not only did he destroy the stars but he destroyed the light molecules (if he didn't destroy the light molecules then the Stars would still be visible for a couple of millions years)
@tommarsdon5644
@tommarsdon5644 6 ай бұрын
I'm unreasonably upset at your usage of of the phrase "light molecules"
@shimari5107
@shimari5107 6 ай бұрын
So I guess literally every single death battle is a one sided massacre according to Nux huh
@edmondmartinez9617
@edmondmartinez9617 6 ай бұрын
Also they have to take feats literally, because its supposed to be an objective match, and fears are the only objective thing you have to judge. Its not about the intrinsic spirit in which the character is written. I do believe Saitama needs a rematch, but finding an opponent worth the rematch is always the issue. I think they got this on as right as i could be, but i was hoping it would be more like the chuck norris vs segata sanshiro fight. Then again, chuck norris vs saitama would be the natural matchup.
@Skyinitus
@Skyinitus 6 ай бұрын
...They ARE keeping the spirit in which a character is written if they use Toon Force at all. Your argument is self-defeating.
@gorgeousfreeman1318
@gorgeousfreeman1318 5 ай бұрын
@@Skyinitus No it isn't... the whole point of popeye's toon force is just... he's got a way to ignore anything and everything, because he eats his spinach
@Skyinitus
@Skyinitus 5 ай бұрын
And I am saying that you cannot genuinely consider Toon Force without considering the context of the story. AKA that its a catroon thats based on Toon Force Logic. IF you beleive that Toon Force is a legitimate power-scaling thing to consider, then you have to accept that you are taking the nature of the medium it was created in, into account. If you take literally a medium that was never meant to be, then you have to give that same respect to whatever you're putting it up against. You cannot separate Toon Force from the medium that it was used within. It'd be like dropping a character that has some innate magic in a medieval world where magic doesn't exist. If you take the context f the magician having magic given their story, but ignore the fact there *is* no magic in the other? That's not really a genuine comparison. @@gorgeousfreeman1318
@swaginton1180
@swaginton1180 6 ай бұрын
the thing about saitama is that he would EVENTUALLY surpass popeye. saitama scales in power expensioally when pushed even a little but its not a matter of him instantly growing stronger then his opponent. it takes time for him to get there even if the time in question is pretty short. like its shown in the garou fight which came out after this death battle was made during that one scene with the chart that both of them were growing in power as the fight went on, but saitama fuckin climbed to the roof in terms of power way faster then garou was. its described like a staircase where garou was running up a flight of stairs with each step being his current limits, meanwhile saitama was skyrocketing into the sky on a god damn rocket. I will say that I genuinely believe in any drawn out battle, saitama will basically always win, because its only a matter of time before he grows in power beyond his opponent. the question is honestly just how long that would take. of course though all it would take would be one intent to kill strike during the beginning of the fight from someone like popeye who is so exponentially stronger them him for it to end immediately. going on a little tangent here now though, this is why I personally think that in NON deathbattle in character situation saitama would beat goku. like if saitama was put into gokus universe or vis versa and they decided to fight saitama would win because gokus whole thing is he scales himself to his opponents so he would give saitama the chance to grow to his level and it only be a matter of time before saitama eventually surpassed goku.
@tlkfanrwbyfan8716
@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 6 ай бұрын
Saitama can’t scale to something that isn’t scalable because then it could be scaled. Wouldn’t matter regardless because Popeye has too many hax plus he doesn’t obey the rules of his universe or any character he fights. He doesn’t obey his own rules 99% of the time.
@Iliveinuratticandatethepizza
@Iliveinuratticandatethepizza 2 ай бұрын
Nux going through the entire Saitama's feats and calculation about his stuff: ye lmao its tru, BUT Y NO GAROU FIGHT? Nux going Through Popeye's feats and calculation about his stuff: *DEMONIC SCREETCH*
@Ayuima69
@Ayuima69 6 ай бұрын
Ill admit i knew who was going to win the moment it was announced but i was wrong about thinking this battle would be a waste of time. It was one of the best ones imo.
@jaydonmagan4694
@jaydonmagan4694 6 ай бұрын
Well now I want to see Nux check out the Sauron Vs. The Lich King Death Battle, if he hasn’t already checked it out on his free time already. I don’t know how well he might know about either The Lord of the Rings mythos and World of Warcraft mythos, but it is an awesome fight.
@ryanfladung8490
@ryanfladung8490 6 ай бұрын
Every time you say “ they took that too literally”, all I have to say is: if they didn’t take it literally for one character then why do it for the other. They can’t just boost one character and remove another’s feats.
@KemarMoore-zs3rl
@KemarMoore-zs3rl 6 ай бұрын
Man called my only ever original anime theory and called it a got take I almost cried
@eggsploring1407
@eggsploring1407 6 ай бұрын
Lmao nux has a great Yoda voice
@archmagemc3561
@archmagemc3561 6 ай бұрын
There is another really good death battle that is very early seasons that is remarkably close. Sam Fisher vs Solid Snake. That one is still one of their best, and its early, early deathbatle. And I have good news for you Nux, even by how they scale things, there are things that beat toon force. Not many things, but there are things that beat toon force. And when Boomstick makes the joke about 'big vegetable', he wasn't aware that was actually true at the time and he was shocked in the commentary that his joke was actually true.
@user-hw2zr4mn4q
@user-hw2zr4mn4q 6 ай бұрын
So remember if you wanna leave saitama face down in a pool of his own teeth just eat your vegetables.
@WHAT_THE_FUCK_IS_A_KILOMETER69
@WHAT_THE_FUCK_IS_A_KILOMETER69 6 ай бұрын
To all popeye deniers, keep in mind these two facts about Popeye: 1. He will always win if he gets the spinach 2. He will ALWAYS get the spinach and there is nothing you can do to stop him
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