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@TheRealBobHickman 2 ай бұрын

The step by step montage was great - most people gloss over that stuff, but it was good to see all the steps involved to get that box connected.

@supersparks9466 2 ай бұрын

Double brown is mustard for a rewire where you can’t take the feeds to the switches, you don’t have to mark the switch lines or worry about the switch lines getting mixed up.

@chriss9261 2 ай бұрын

I was ALWAYS taught that in ALL cases the cpc (earth wire) MUST ALWAYS go the the circuit accessory (light switch, socket etc,) FIRST then to the back box, as for the instal, I would never have a situation where one circuit with an earth fault takes out other circuits, not since the advent of RCBOs, so MCB ustream and a full RCBO board in the garage.

@Rich-Eclipse 3 ай бұрын

40a mcb at incomer and rcbos in garage for me. 18:02

@Sparkyjedi 2 ай бұрын

👍

@davidhaverfield7909 2 ай бұрын

Earth sleeving in cable was new thing in the 90s in New Zealand and Australia. Heaps quicker all round. What’s annoying now is going into the odd house that needs sleeving😡🤣🤣🤣

@staceyismine 2 ай бұрын

Well done Doncaster cables

@wroteboat 2 ай бұрын

nick in Ireland as you probably know we are using brown / brown t&e for lighting Circuits for more than 30 years get for 3 plate method but now the 2 plate method has become the standard in domestic installations as for the earth sure cable the t&e cable here has the cps the same size as current carrying conductor this has made the cable a little harder to clip as the clips do not fit the cable so we now use 2.5 clip for 1.5 and 6 mm for 2.5 and 4 mm t&e works like a dream.

@raymondburke1261 2 ай бұрын

Great way to show how you do stuff. Also “ natural selection at its finest “ 👌

@terrymoore3335 2 ай бұрын

mcb at main rcbos at garage

@EvansAllElectrical2142 2 ай бұрын

One of the best decisions I ever made was sticking with Kewtech products. Not ONCE has my KT66DL let me down. 👍

@anthonybragg 2 ай бұрын

Great video, great electrical installation, Nick.

@deanhepburn3302 2 ай бұрын

Timelapse was good mate, over music also good!

@marcusstonham 2 ай бұрын

I have linked busbar to earth bar with breakers on for 20 years to get R1+R2. It was taught at college.

@cumberland1234 3 ай бұрын

On TN systems I don’t think there’s a need to RCD armoured cables even when buried as they have an earthed metal sheath. My preference would be to MCB protect the SWA and have separate RCBOs for each circuit, then a single earth fault doesn’t trip everything.

@codenamenel 2 ай бұрын

and if it trips out you're not going all the way back in the house to reset it

@robertburrows6612 2 ай бұрын

You can have have an RCD upstream, but it tripping currant is normally 3 times the tripping currant of the RCDs or RCBOs in the board it's protecting. But I agree with you your method is the method I would employ

@kittsdiy 2 ай бұрын

I never undserstood why in UK so much SWA is used ( and always the wrong colors never blue/brown/yello-green ) .. We can't do this using a black wire for earth and just sleeving green-yellow over it . ( seems allowed in uk and commonly done ) Seems also pain to terminate . In Belgium we never use it ...we use XVB ( Cca )/XGB(hallogen free Cca) and normal plastic stuffing glands for a job like this .. But we have TT systems at residential houses. ( alway own earth rod or loop in fundatons ) AND a main RCD of 300mA ( wich we also use as main switch in the board ) . And then we can have 30mA RCD with max 8 MCB after it ( latest new regulations ) . We cannot have 1 circuit that is NOT RCD protected . Cant see if the SWA from the main board is already RCD protected or not . ( in Belgium it needs to be at least behind a 300mA RCD in main board or would not aprove inspection ) Anyway like the video's to see how different electrical work is on the island uk compared to the mainland europe lol

@codenamenel 2 ай бұрын

@@kittsdiy as far as i know there isnt any SWA with brown, blue, g/y colourway available only brown, black, grey, (it used to be red, yellow, blue but we harmonised it to EU standards back in 2005). Because of that we're allowed to sleeve the cores and as long as they're easily identifiable at each termination its all good.

@kittsdiy 2 ай бұрын

it seems idd .. but EVultra cable has the correct color lol@@codenamenel

@shiamjad 2 ай бұрын

like the installation view of the video... keep it up for us sparks

@SoraaConstruction-zl9ww 2 ай бұрын

Editing on this was awesome. Great video nick

@highgatehandyman6479 2 ай бұрын

I saw Bundy at Ally Pally Napit stand wire up a bs 1363 plug socket to a fuse board through conduit in 1 minute 30 seconds. Very quick and top of the leader board.

@heladas90 2 ай бұрын

Looking forward to seeing your sleeve dispenser!

@ForTheBirbs 3 ай бұрын

Nicely done video Sir Nick! Switch wire colours in Australia are red and white. Yeah, we're still using old colours for fixed wiring, but "new" for flex cables. Our twin and earth are however the same conductor size, generally stranded, and CPCs are fully insulated (since the 1970's I think.

@carlmarquardt994 2 ай бұрын

Aussie sparky over in UK ten years now.. Yeah totally different over here

@heffo1992 2 ай бұрын

We use the brown brown cable over here in Ireland for two way switching as we don't use three core and earth. We've also had the sleeve earth for years now but our CPC is the same size as the other conductors.

@anthonybragg 2 ай бұрын

Might have to look into buying one of those linking cables. linking out works well in the installation you had there. It can't be used where you have bonding or supplementary bonding, CPCs from two or more different circuits etc due to parallel paths you can partly do it by taking the cpc's of on of the circuits out of the board and then do it with the rest in the domestic world it is usually 2 way switch with two circuit cpc's immersion heaters and C.H.

@haldo691 2 ай бұрын

I did use twin brown but now loop in to switches so not needed. Looping into switches saves on the arms wiring at ceilings

@Ste2023 2 ай бұрын

Great channel NB ... always learn things on here .

@mattyboy7167 2 ай бұрын

Totally agree with you about the X1 have the exact same issues with mine! Hazardous live part annoys the heck out of me

@IanFarquharson2 2 ай бұрын

Once they sleeve the cpc, you won’t be able to use it to rip up the jacket like you did on the switch. Good filming on this video too.

@AndrewStrydomBRP 2 ай бұрын

You can still do that, just have to be more careful of the bending radius.

@adamwenham6746 2 ай бұрын

I lived in New Zealand for 5 years they have their earth sleeved also stranded copper from 1.5mm all the way up to 6mm. The cable is much better and yep saves on time!

@trojanhawrs4613 2 ай бұрын

Really tidy work. I keep forgetting i've got those wiska earth nuts on the van, can be a pain drilling banjos to avoid the next knockout along.

@leestorey18 2 ай бұрын

My college taught me to test like that nick but we had a link to the busbar first and then to either neatral or earth etc

@x1BULLETfromABOVE1x 2 ай бұрын

Used to use twin brown when i was an apprentice, was a nightmare always having to bell out the cable, saved so much time when i switched back to TnE

@robertburrows6612 2 ай бұрын

I'm still using a kewtect KT 62 it manual , can do the required 18th edition tests , it's what I've got used to. So I'm in no hurry to change

@johncoe530 3 ай бұрын

I think twin brown would be confusing at the switch and the light. Perhaps another colour or combination of colours for switched live - but that could also cause confusion and increase cost. Doncaster’s new Earthsure cable looks like a game changer.

@taylordean23 2 ай бұрын

We use brown brown in Ireland for strappers

@snail5967 2 ай бұрын

I think the brown brown is a pain for identification purposes - at least with the traditional t&e you know which is which and only need to sleeve the blue. Surprised to see you at Elex on Thursday Nick by the way - didn’t think you ever ventured this far south! Was going to say hello but you looked busy.

@effervescence5664 2 ай бұрын

Couple things, MCB feeding that garage board and RCBO's inside the garage, no circuit shall effect safe operation of any other circuit - split load and one RCD covering multiple circuits just doesn't really adhere to that regulation anymore with the advent of RCBO's. Also due to the length of run I think you're possibly over the distance required for local surge protection in the garage, might want to double check that before they have an EV point put in as that will want a local RCBO too not one inside the house.

@tebscat 2 ай бұрын

MCB the SWA to feed a submain in cases like that. RCBO the individual circuits. Otherwise time delay the feed if it has to be on an RCD.

@II-ct7vx 2 ай бұрын

Liking the new filming style 👍

@NBundyElectrical 2 ай бұрын

Thanks bud

@neilpowell9312 2 ай бұрын

@@NBundyElectricalThey have an update for the X1 now which allows auto test. Updated mine the other day. #gamechanger

@TinaLucindaNekoMolly 2 ай бұрын

Biggest problem is keeping the current double socket fed from a different supply I'd prefer that to come through the same board as the rest of the garage

@chas3997 2 ай бұрын

Obvioulsy s-type RCD upfront with overload protection of 32-40amps type A rcbos down stream. Use this if the SWA is at risk of damage outside and to give limited protection where the SWA passes through the gland in the garage fuseboard before the RCBOs

@johnmilman9049 2 ай бұрын

Hi Nick love your videos What make of hole saw do you use for drilling the side of consumer unit. Thanks

@TheShinnion 2 ай бұрын

The hazardous PE warning on the X1 is doing my head in, it’s so annoying I’ve ended up going back to my old faithful 1721. Sort it out megger ffs 🙄

@combatclifton 2 ай бұрын

I’ve been having the same issues as you with the Megga x1 with nulling. I found the probes had a coating coating on them. Used a scotch bright pad to clean the ends.

@NBundyElectrical 2 ай бұрын

I’ll give it ago mate

@barrysaunders5243 2 ай бұрын

Great content, love your work 👍🏻

@maygarland6123 2 ай бұрын

its armoured cable, defo mcb first then rcbos on final circuits

@RabM1990 2 ай бұрын

Get kewtech r1r2 leads. Croc clip on both ends. Cros bus bar and croc earth bar...

@benjames3959 2 ай бұрын

What are your thoughts on the armouring showing outside of the gland? Personally I think it’s totally fine as the shroud covers it. But we have recently been snagged for this on a contract we are on. Also snagged for using coloured tape to identify a brown single cable as a different phase. I think they are just snagging anything to get out of paying us.

@simonb1996 2 ай бұрын

MCB and then individual RCBOs after.

@chas3997 2 ай бұрын

I do an S type RCD upfront at 100ma for ADS and 30 milli amp rcbos in the garage then even the SWA has some extra fault protection even if it’s not additional. Also also for selectivity coordination 😀.

@bramcoteelectrical1088 2 ай бұрын

Better to do 30ma for swa and 10ma rcbos But s type is more fire protection 100ma. All better than nothing though. Over engineering is 👌 best

@LondonGas 2 ай бұрын

Enjoyed the montage Nick. Maybe move the camera between cuts, for a fresh view 👍👍

@robinengel4335 2 ай бұрын

Just wondering if it wouldve be easier on mounting the board first then measuring and glanding after ? Cheers

@Webbster77 2 ай бұрын

Twin brown is awesome!!! Makes things soooo much easier when doing lighting!

@dg2908 2 ай бұрын

Never used brown/brown, I haven't felt the need. I'd have fed the submain from an MCB and then put RCBOs in the garage to reduce the impact of any earth faults. I'd have kept the 2nd SPD in the garage too

@stealthmovements8569 2 ай бұрын

Mega score with that cable!... Remember the X1's software isn't set in stone it can be updated with extra functions.

@Daniel.Dalziel 2 ай бұрын

I used the twin brown for switch drops before but each line had either a “1” or “2” printed on it repeatedly or some dashes on it if I remember correctly. Are you sure that cable doesn’t have the same.

@gadgetman36 2 ай бұрын

Great video. The problems you're having with your tester may be down to the leads starting to fail. Try another set of leads if you can.

@NBundyElectrical 2 ай бұрын

ill have a look mate

@adamkirkman3169 2 ай бұрын

Had my X-1 do this and also reading high Ka values, got my megger 1741+ and values read normal. Took footage of the issues and my suppliers swapped it out for me

@steveclark7971 2 ай бұрын

Hi Nick you need to try Storm Glands once used you will never go back to conventional SWA glands. Give them a go you won’t regret it

@steveclark7971 2 ай бұрын

I look forward to your next video when you do a similar job, perhaps you will give me a mention. All the best😃

@benjames3959 2 ай бұрын

I would recommend CMP Glands, super easy to work with.

@imark7777777 2 ай бұрын

Don't worry about the sleeve it product there's still gonna be how many numbers of numbers of numbers of legacy installations your not gonna be able to replace the cable so you're still gonna need to carry around sleeving. And how are you gonna carry some thing around that you don't use that often or you use a lot some sort of I don't know organizer that keeps it all together might actually be a big win?

@leszak1051 2 ай бұрын

10:00 you crimp the wires using non electrical pliers. They are very sharp. In 1 to 5 you cut insulation under grey sleeveee. Always cut after pulling earth wire or use proper strippers mate.

@jonathanstephens7804 3 ай бұрын

I've had issues with Megger 1721 with dodgy nulling readings and the same issues with 1741+. They are supplied through company I work for and I really don't rate Megger. I use my own Metrel most the time. Each to their own I guess there's a lot of love for Meggers. Considering the price of X1 it should be auto testing r2 readings

@timlarsen5014 2 ай бұрын

I used ‘twin red’ when I was an an apprentice back in the early 80’s. So it not new Nic

@markjones7057 2 ай бұрын

Quick question the fuse board has a socket underneath it feb from the board ,and another socket below to the left fed from a different board am I correct ?. I think it’s bad practice not sure it’s wrong as not that up to date on regs etc but just think it’s bad practice I have been caught out stripping out an office and had a close call with this issue . Just to say great content and videos keep up the good work

@tailerbtw 2 ай бұрын

Here in Aus/nz our earths are sleeved!

@mittsville6112 2 ай бұрын

I have the same tester and the automatic thing annoyed me, however, if you press the test button first, it will auto test when you put the live on, found this out by accident!

@amatchmadeindevon2005 2 ай бұрын

Have you found a way to turn off the confidence meter? It seems to take forever on some circuits, I know you can press the button to stop it but my 1741+ just does it and auto start, like they have gone backwards with this tester 🤦‍♂️

@mittsville6112 2 ай бұрын

I know, it’s painful, also having to have the correct polarity is annoying. Don’t know how to sort that, but did find an option to customise the RCD testing which is handy, only does x1 now, not the half and x 5. This is my second one, the first one packed up after a few hours of use with a hardware issue.

@jonathanrose456 2 ай бұрын

I think sleeveit will have a market. The new cable is too tough to strip. There’s a reg about earthing the back box… somewhere. I’m not a fan of floating neutrals & use hot glue to stick connectors to the back box. It’s nice to see others working conscientiously.

@kloddi25 2 ай бұрын

Incorrect there isn't a reg about earthing back boxes, however, it must have a fixed lug.

@jonathanrose456 2 ай бұрын

@@kloddi25 not when it’s metal clad.

@dantheman3572 2 ай бұрын

Stock! we all do it.. got that on the van will help job an client out. But over a year do the maths I did, shocking.... Should always be payed for don't forget that it all adds up. ✌️

@IW-tb8wr 2 ай бұрын

I sent my x1 back as it started to do some very odd things, odd random tests not selected and not turning on & seemed more effort to use. My old 1720 still going as is 1652C and my old Robin KMP4116DL although the Type A is killing it as it dumps DC onto the circuit to stop the old AC RCDs from tripping. Might get a 1741+ for EVs, but where I am there is no demand for them. It depends on where the armoured is running for me. In a garden low level where it could be damaged RCD front end, I've seen too many exposed / damaged / chewed SWAs over the years. (fencing company drops cable off, hits it, splits the armouring leaving a gap and then hides the damage) High up or on wall reducing the risk then MCB front end RCBOs at the board.

@connordines667 3 ай бұрын

Never really used twin brown expect when I was apprentice as I tend to feed switches now. Metal clad switches do require an earth to it as lug are crimped not fixed lug on them (so I was told anyway) If don’t want to X1 I’ll have it off you 😂😂

@delspark 2 ай бұрын

I would of used MCB for supply circuit rcbos in garage bur either works

@rsr4987 2 ай бұрын

My megger mft1741 bought 12 months ago had to be sent to repair 3 times and yet again yesterday it wont turn on. My replacement di log cheap as chips is miles better

@anon69ist 2 ай бұрын

Nick if the UK goes in the same direction as here in Ireland yous will absolutely HATE the new LSF cable, make the most of the old t&e cable etc yous still can use cause the new LSF is a nightmare to strip and at times even the inner sheat of the LSF (the pvc is so tough to strip) as is some of the new NYMJ here in Ireland it's beyond a joke, heed my warning in advance... also btw love the vids and the work keep it up, but don't say you weren't warned about the LSF B.S 🙈

@cstoten 2 ай бұрын

that'll be why there was no drum ends when i went on to look the other week

@mulro4 2 ай бұрын

👍👍 liked the montage bit

@johnybfd2845 2 ай бұрын

I use 1.5mm supply in and out for lights. And then 1mm twin and cpc for switches. Also 1mm three core for 2 wayz Easy to know whats what.

@o04n7h0n90o 2 ай бұрын

Megger need to get these bugs ironed out the whole marketing pitch for this meter was how its apparently revolutionised sofware upgradability. Dont fall at the first hurdle!

@richrowley8355 2 ай бұрын

Nice one Nick

@mxslick50 2 ай бұрын

One thing I would have done here is leave the SPD in the garage board, since it came with the board already. Sure it isn't required, but since tools typically used in a garage can generate surges, the extra SPD can help. (It would also provide extra protection to an EV charger.) Now if the SPD wasn't included with the board already, it would be something I'd probably suggest as an upgrade.

@NBundyElectrical 2 ай бұрын

The board I fitted feeding this board mate has an SPD so not needed for both dude

@mxslick50 2 ай бұрын

@@NBundyElectrical Absolutely correct, it isn't needed but the concept of "layered" SPD protection is recommended in many situations. It becomes more important where lots of electronics are involved. (I used to install high end cinema rooms in multi million dollar homes. The equipment alone totalled in low to mid six figures. So thecadded cost of extra SPD devices was chump change.) As I said, since it was part of the board as purchased, it wouldn't have done any harm to leave it in.

@charlotterobinson9452 2 ай бұрын

Personally, I'd really try to avoid 30mA instantaneous RCDs on a submain. It ruins selectivity. MCB/MCCB/fuse on the submain, RCBOs for final circuits (if required).

@tonyclark9851 3 ай бұрын

I have had the same with my megger x1

@Cardetailingburnley 2 ай бұрын

Nick as always it’s good

@JohnMyer999 2 ай бұрын

The last time I used switch wire it was two reds lol 😂

@robinpenny3193 2 ай бұрын

I was taught that you have a time delayed (S-Type) RCD at the main and a standard RCD at the sub-main & I am pretty sure I have seen that confirmed multiple times. so somewhat surprised at this discussion. S-Types are usually mentioned in any discussion about discrimination/selectivity. Or have I missed something here?

@lesmoor001 2 ай бұрын

haven't watched for a while he seems very sensible none of the humor like before

@sward86 2 ай бұрын

Have you ever had to use 25mm² armoured cable as meter tails when moving a fuse box, is it necessary?

@NBundyElectrical 2 ай бұрын

yeah years ago mate

@kleenex3ply906 2 ай бұрын

Can’t believe you don’t have sheathed earths in the UK. Australia/NZ ahead of the game for once haha

@pault4793 2 ай бұрын

always done the global r1/r2 but still have to disconnect ring mains as cant test rings using global method

@matthewfewings6023 2 ай бұрын

Enjoy the content now you are on your own. You probably don’t realise you explain your thinking more without Adam. Find Adam does the same on his channel, when you work together sometimes it’s a bit more banter etc. which is good to watch but nothing beats judging another spark from your sofa with one 10% of the info 😂. I work on my own and before most jobs, I put what I think I need in a tote bag and then box up materials in a container for the job. You need to be planned to do it but I do add time to each job for it. 👍

@martinwones2901 2 ай бұрын

If you press the test button prior to putting the leads onto the cable it will then start the test on its own no idea why they got rid of auto testing. Also my x1 sometimes does the same with the false earth readings bloody annoying

@electrician247 2 ай бұрын

Nice one nick keep it up nearly died laughing at your insta story from Theo

@NBundyElectrical 2 ай бұрын

Lol got me too 😂

@rickrolfe 2 ай бұрын

I have this issue with my X1 really frustrating.

@can-be-askedhandymanproper3015 2 ай бұрын

Enjoying the videos, but your laser literally caught my eye, what's the spec please?

@harrygarbett3089 2 ай бұрын

Wow. No auto test on the x-1. Why did they remove it. Couldn’t they just firmware update. ?

@TheChipmunk2008 2 ай бұрын

Your sleeving dispenser will be needed for decades for old work

@markpotter8280 2 ай бұрын

I use a martindale tester and it's ok but if I am doing an iR test on an RCBO I have to do each circuit with the circuit disconnected from the the RCBO as it gives me a false reading like it's picking up the workings of the RCBO as a load (ie can't link bus bar to earth). does this happen with other multifunction meters it's really annoying me.....EDIT and yes the RCBO is in the off position when I test