Grand Seiko SBGA229 30 days on the wrist and how does Grand Seiko compare to Rolex

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After 30 days on the wrist how do I feel about this grand Seiko SPGA229 Spring Drive Dive watch? How does the Grand Seiko compare to the Rolex and the Rolex submariner?
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@TheWayofGrace89 5 жыл бұрын

You never really own a Grand Seiko. You merely phlip it for your next fixation.

@marcgoldbergdogtrainer 5 жыл бұрын

😂

@damachine3 5 жыл бұрын

Yep, phlip it for a loss.

@wjvlodek8769 3 жыл бұрын

That was a funny comment....good job!!

@rizocars6115 2 жыл бұрын

@japanwatchconnection where?

@koolpep 5 жыл бұрын

So...I have Rolex,3 Tudors, Omega and 2 GS. The GS are amazing indeed. And I feel they keep their value quite nicely if purchased with a discount. Craftsmanship on them is astonishing.

@harleyb.8293 5 жыл бұрын

I own a few Rolexes and a couple Seiko 5's and want a GS next. Wear what you like, not what others tell you to like. Don't apologize for what watches you like. Love your channel.

@stusims6567 5 жыл бұрын

I’m afraid that I don’t understand the fixation some people have on a Rolex. There are better watches out there. I think the accuracy of a watch is the most important thing for a watch. I’ve known several people who have craved a Rolex for years. When it came time to pull the trigger on one they try one out and are generally underwhelmed. Can anyone explain their obsession with a Rolex?

@swabby429 5 жыл бұрын

I thought about any wear and tear on the beautiful polished case of Grand Seikos. This might be a plus in that such wear is related to the Japanese art of Kintsugi. That is the time-honored way of repairing broken pottery items with gold or platinum seams to make the pot better than when it was new but with a different esthetic. There are similar ideals as to how that philosophy is relevant to other types of artifacts. It's fascinating but only marginally relevant to zaratsu polishing. I love Japanese culture so that is probably why I'm rambling on about this.

@rollywood2793 5 жыл бұрын

In less than 2 mins, you said it all. Thank you.

@udin737 5 жыл бұрын

Nice review Marc. I own one GS and absolutely love it. Great review by the way.

@blueshirtbuddah1665 5 жыл бұрын

Great review Marc.

@88detox 5 жыл бұрын

Love you videos and enthusiasm for luxury watches.

@chi-towncalifornia5916 5 жыл бұрын

Nice to hear you gave the Grand Seiko a fair shot, Marc. It tried the SBGA229 on, and it was a great watch, but it was just too big for my wrist. A Submariner or Seamaster Professional are better choices for me, though a Tudor Black Bay 58 nails it for me. If the BB58 wears like the OP39 I tried on, then I think we have a winner.

@roamy3605 5 жыл бұрын

It's funny Marc. If you are a little older and own a vintage muscle car worth $100,000 then you are well respected, cool, and have respect from guys in your age group. If you enjoy watches and have a $100,000 collection you have to be careful. Most guys will think you're an idiot. I happen to keep my cars cheap and my watches fairly expensive. Just the way I work. So glad the car bug never bit me.

@marcgoldbergdogtrainer 5 жыл бұрын

Same!

@TheWayofGrace89 5 жыл бұрын

Roamy360 Same for young guys. I bought myself a Speedie Pro cash and can’t hardly bring myself to tell anyone of my buddies bc I know they’ll judge me and think I’m a selfish idiot, meanwhile everyone and their brother has a $40,000 car, $500 a month payment + motorcycle, rent, etc. Their equity is shit.

@ChefPelle 5 жыл бұрын

Buy interesting cars and interesting watches. Price doesn't really have anything to do with it. There are plenty of interesting cars and watches that doesn't cost that much. Just stay away from what's in fashion.

@TECHFIGHTER 5 жыл бұрын

I think most people would agree vehicles have a better cost to functionality ratio than timepieces

@ChefPelle 5 жыл бұрын

@@TECHFIGHTER Not if it's a Timex...

@trevbarlow9719 5 жыл бұрын

The GS divers are the only GSs that I wouldn't buy over a Rolex.

@JackGreystoke 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent review. All 4 parts. I actually laughed at a couple of points.

@bammbamm1961 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for being honest about your bias toward Rolex.. liked your "Jetsons" reference "luxury Roch" ... You certainly have Rolex on the mind. :-) I selected the GS because I wanted something that actually keeps time (it is a watch after all) , was not part of the herd, a bit unique, low production and buying pre-owned got a great deal... Fitted with the black rubber strap... It's ideal. Thanks bud!

@1968jpy 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome review on your Grand Seiko. Have you ever considered the Seiko Marine Master?

@TexpatOTG 5 жыл бұрын

I'm a big fan of power reserve, day/date and GMT. That leaves out a lot of Rolex watches from consideration. I only have one Rolex now, down from 3. Not looking for more.

@SalMightyOne 5 жыл бұрын

Which app on your phone do you recommend to 'regulate'?

@mauriziomauricone 5 жыл бұрын

Did you ever saw the Seiko sbdx001 or 017 or 023 MM300 with the 8L35 movement in the flesh? You will be surprised. Amazing value for money!

@Watchatete 5 жыл бұрын

No problem with the Grand Seiko, but as a watch lover and especially a diver lover, Marc, you have to try thr Fifty Fathoms. I thought that 42mm of Speedy is my absolute maximum until I tried on a Blancpain. That watch also hugs the wrist and feels as good as a 40mm sub being 45mm case size. And super dial.

@rootedrotor525 5 жыл бұрын

GS will be sold before Labor Day. Book it!

@marcgoldbergdogtrainer 5 жыл бұрын

🤔

@Valvey789 5 жыл бұрын

For me, the power reserve is useful when you look down at your watch and are surprised by the time. Then you think that you either lost track of the time or the watch is out of gas. So you look at the power reserve.

@andyvu8513 Жыл бұрын

Rolex is a extremely good marketing company that just happens to make watches.

@johnnyguitar6697 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Marc, well done on a pretty balanced review. Aesthetics and Sprindrive vs. automatic are subjective matters, so not much to add on that front. Value retention, or lack thereof, for GS is easily remedied by buying it second hand. The one area I disagree with you is overall execution and finishing, where I definitely give the nod to GS over Rolex, with a caveat on the clasp. As functional as the GS clasp is, I do agree that it is too thick, and not as well presented as a Rolex Sub / SD.

@sealevelbear 5 жыл бұрын

I still think this watch is a keeper. Same with the 43mm Sea Dweller. Their bigger size, wrist presence, and nice factor. The watches that I don’t get, the Turtle, the Breitling, and all those non-Rolex (excluding the Ball WT diver.

@sealevelbear 5 жыл бұрын

Power reserves are cool IMO.

@jeffliang1718 4 жыл бұрын

Marc, Grand Seiko SBGA229 VS Tudor black bay, Which one is more wearable for small wrist?

@marcgoldbergdogtrainer 4 жыл бұрын

Tudor 58

@MyMarsham 5 жыл бұрын

I own fifteen Seiko of all types, including 2 GS, but for some reason this GS diver has never appealed to me. I always stick to Turtles and Samurais, which are excellent value for money beaters. Perhaps you could try a Marinemaster 200.

@galaga8834 5 жыл бұрын

The Seiko Marinemaster is good enough. I can't take GS divers seriously.

@gasken2182 Жыл бұрын

You can buy this used, a used Snowflake and still have $4K left over for holiday. Also the spring drive is a much better movement than the Rolex.

@SiGoodchild1 5 жыл бұрын

I am drawn to this watch but I couldn’t live with that nasty clasp. Are there any decent alternative straps?

@harleyb.8293 5 жыл бұрын

I own a MM300 with a similar clasp. It actually is nice and love the ability to adjust it without taking it off the wrist.

@robynsjp 5 жыл бұрын

FMD Marc those hands are wrong again, like on the Omega. Also have a Seiko with ugly hands...not wearing it. Don't go phor Tudor with even uglier hands. Buy a Planet Ocean Deep Black ! Your kind of watch, great hands...

@ronpurczynski4803 10 ай бұрын

Hi Marc, what is your wrist size?

@davenamba 3 жыл бұрын

GS is just a more polished refined diver! The spring drive movement is impeccable. Unless you're an OG like Marc and like the outdated cyclops look, stick with the Rolex. I would choose GS and seamaster in a heart beat!

@entroheat 2 жыл бұрын

This guy is pure Rolex fanboy he does not see the ugliness of cyclops and it’s super inflated prices and douche crowds that adore it repugnant

@joeyben2733 5 жыл бұрын

I’m sure he got 25-30% off retail

@paula5482 5 жыл бұрын

Looks really big. Too big for my small wrist. I like your advice that this would be a watch to get after your base collection is built out.

@shipmate3577 5 жыл бұрын

Spring Drive is just a fancy quartz. Big fan of Seiko, but I would much prefer a full mechanical watch. I like the ticking. If I'm not buying a Rolex, I'll buy an Omega, Panerai, or IWC.

@wallacejw09 5 жыл бұрын

No it's not it's something else

@jswede1 5 жыл бұрын

You can have your opinion on what you like, but you can’t make stuff up. Spring drive is mechanical.

@shipmate3577 5 жыл бұрын

@@jswede1 It's a fairly common opinion on Spring Drive. You realize it uses quartz, right?

@rctezluh42069 4 жыл бұрын

nice watch!!!!!!!!!!!

@christophershea1209 5 жыл бұрын

What did you pay for it? Important.

@StudioCityTattooLA 5 жыл бұрын

The best points of this watch are better expressed in the titanium version.Great watch but much better in grade 5 titanium

@marcgoldbergdogtrainer 5 жыл бұрын

Literally only difference is the metal and therefore the weight which is lighter and the color which is duller. I much prefer the brightness of stainless steel and I don’t mind the weight because the watch is well balanced.

@wjvlodek8769 3 жыл бұрын

I have a titanium GS. It is very light and extremely comfortable...but it is scratched to hell...

@blueshirtbuddah1665 5 жыл бұрын

Phist 👊

@michaelkaliski7651 10 ай бұрын

The primary purpose of a watch is to tell the time, as accurately as possible. Grand Seiko beats Rolex into the ground on that basis alone. Then you have the whole hand assembled, human interaction when assembling the watch which just doesn’t happen with a Rolex (or Tudor). Grand Seiko is for people who are capable of recognising supreme craftsmanship and value for money over marketing prowess. And you can walk into a boutique and actually buy a Grand Seiko. Try doing that at a Rolex AD.

@mattcaschetteful 5 жыл бұрын

Mark, God bless your soul. As you you said in your comments, it’s all about your opinion. The question is, why would anyone listen to your opinion unless they had to justify over paying soooooooo much for a Rolex? The Seiko in question does everything better than a Rolex accept make a dog trainer feel he is equal to his employers. Only a Rolex can do that for Mark and the rest of you fan boys. News flash fan boys, It Doesn’t matter what you wear on your wrist........you will never be in the club! The only thing I can gain from this channel is Rolex vs Rolex comments. Everything else is a waste of time

@Tonysoprano497 5 жыл бұрын

For this to be a good buy I feel that it would probably have to be a good deal better than Rolex , I’m not seeing it so not for consideration.. Looks as if there’s quite a loss when you let it go ...

@Mister_Phafanapolis 4 жыл бұрын

I just do not understand the constant fiddling and tickering with a collection. If I'm just a normal dude, why have a rotating cast of a dozen watches? Constantly mulling thru BST. How can you not just settle in to a groove with a handful of watches? What does the rest of your EDC look like? Must be a mess. How many wallets and cars and pocket knives and flashlights do you orbit thru? Must be exhausting.

@gilbertjuarezjr8183 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry grand seiko is way better than rolex I think to many people are hooked on the name more than anything else. But good channel

@valengreymoon5623 5 жыл бұрын

PHIRST

@abmorose6531 5 жыл бұрын

Valen Greymoon Schmiko Respektos!

@a.j.scalzitti1929 5 жыл бұрын

Love the GS, just not the diver; It wants to be a sub too much and that ruins it for me.

@andrewchiles 5 жыл бұрын

A.J. Scalzitti agreed

@MrPINKFL0YD 5 жыл бұрын

Any expert will tell you that the GS is way better finished. Keeps better time.As they drop so much they are a massive bargain preowned If you had done the homework you would have got one with the reserve on the back and one with long hands and the snowflake dial

@akosbalog4363 5 жыл бұрын

This GS is much nicer and better than a Rolex.

@Rockthespaceship 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t agree with the idea that this is a “hybrid movement”. It is a mechanical watch, albeit a mechanical watch powered by different technology.

@eyeheartsushi2212 5 жыл бұрын

Phecond

@treblarefils 5 жыл бұрын

They call him Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning

@damachine3 5 жыл бұрын

Phird? Phourth? Whatever, I'm paphetic.

@The_God_of_Sexual_Intercourse 5 жыл бұрын

Only phirst counts

@damachine3 5 жыл бұрын

@@The_God_of_Sexual_Intercourse No, phird and phourth also know how to count. ;) See you back at Jay Leno's garage!

@tomcognilio1816 5 жыл бұрын

It looks better than a rolex

@jasongennero2925 5 жыл бұрын

You do know a bulova precisionist works almost the exact same way yet it's a more accurate watch for about $200-$300 right? Lol. And it's also Japanese. Buying a bulova precisionist in my opinion is smarter and a lot more financially savvy. Trust me i compared the two, newer model Grand Seiko snow flake in one hand and a beautiful high end Bulova precisionist with sapphire crystal in the other hand. Trust me when i tell you, the grand Seiko doesn't have $5,000 worth of quality more than the high end Bulova precisionist you will hardly notice the difference in quality. So save yourself the money

@marcgoldbergdogtrainer 5 жыл бұрын

It’s not at all the same. That Bulova uses a battery and plastic spacers. It is some unique technology and quite accurate and good for its price point but it is not comparable unless you care more about accuracy for the dollar them craftsmanship. In which case then it is a player.

@jasongennero2925 5 жыл бұрын

@@marcgoldbergdogtrainer I'm telling you there is a high end Bulova precisionist line where the watches go for around a grand grey market price. You can't tell the difference in quality from the grand Seiko snowflake held them both in each hand and compared them in person brother, lol, you can say what ever you like but i believe my eyes before someone else's words. If also be mad if i paid about eight Grand when i only has to pay one Grand that would burn my ass too trust me. That's why you always gotta do your research before you buy. Which is sounds like you do but it's hard to find research on the precisionist movement and the spring drive movement. The Bulova precisionist movement ticks and it ticks at 16 beats or vibrations a second and it's more accurate. The spring drive doesn't tick, like you said it had a breaking system so it doesn't technically have any beats per second. That's one way it's better than the precision movement but to the naked eye you can't tell anyway just like to the naked eye and feel you can't tell the difference between a high end Bulova precisionist and that grand Seiko snowflake

@michaeljasminestewart1618 5 жыл бұрын

I’ve owned this model and within one year it had to send it to Japan twice for several issues. Each time gone for a couple months. Looks amazing but no durability. Not to mention the clasp is horrid thick with cheap push pins.

@marcgoldbergdogtrainer 5 жыл бұрын

Fingers crossed 🤞

@serendipitous6 5 жыл бұрын

Friend's Spring Drive Diver is going strong 5 years on... SBDB001. Pretty cool watch, but hefty.

@otobotrecords 5 жыл бұрын

@Mark Michael Yeah, but it isn't. In simple terms Kinetic is a quartz watch with a capacitor that gets charged by the rotor and the drive train is run by a stepper motor like a traditional quartz - nothing special IMO. A Spring Drive on the other hand is something completely different. No capacitor/battery, no stepper motor. The only energy storage is a mechanical mainspring like a traditional mechanical watch for the drivetrain and for the power generation for the regulation. Not without reason did the development took more than 20 years and hundreds of patents and the Swiss are still not able to produce a competing product that is capable. If you don't know how a Spring Drive works, don't make such bold claims. Educate yourself.

@evh4611 5 жыл бұрын

Only thing holding me back from purchasing a Grand Seiko is the lack of micro adjustment on the clasp

@hishamhabib666 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent, detailed and comprehensive review by Marc as always! He speaks from the heart guys! I agree with him a 100%. If you’re fed up of ROWLECKS and want to try something different then this is the watch for you! It’s a great watch as Marc pointed out but no where near Rolex! Peace ✌️ Congrats buddy on hitting 11K subs!😉👍🏻 Hisham.

@lulolee5325 5 жыл бұрын

Rolex watches themselves are absolutely fine but I wouldn't wear them because that brand name is already tacky and cliche. There are many other good looking watch brands that are more comfortable to wear without looking like a douchebag.

@abmorose6531 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry Marc, not enough SCHMIKO !

@jeremeymiller3406 3 жыл бұрын

Spring drive, zaratsu, lumibrite > Rolex You forget to mention for most people unless you’ve spent hundreds of thousands at an AD could buy 3-4 of these for the same price as a submariner on the secondary market is it 3-4 times the quality? Don’t make me laugh

@The_God_of_Sexual_Intercourse 5 жыл бұрын

Big ugly sub homage, better off with a Steinhart.

@boatdetective 4 жыл бұрын

I made it through maybe five minutes. Nothing really new here or controversial. If you are concerned primarily about value retention- buy a Rolex. There you go. One sentence. Cut to black. Other than this- please skip the blather and get on to technical details. BTW, on that front, suggesting that the casework or movement in a standard Rolex can compete with a GS Spring drive is objectively ignorant. Whether it's "your cup of tea" is so obviously subjective that it's not worth discussing.

@robertsullivan4773 5 жыл бұрын

OMG Marc you own mostly Rolex and two other shitters. So your money is safe for now. If the Rolex bubble busts then who knows.

@watchroll3310 5 жыл бұрын

Rolex are shitters when compared to GS looser. GS beat the swiss in the olympics pf watches.

@chapmanfx8104 5 жыл бұрын

That clasp is pure garbage wow so many ppl bash rolex over these GS

@511dydy 5 жыл бұрын

Dont like it. Sbdb011 is better.

@terrybrigden7605 5 жыл бұрын

Pointless shitter watch!

@MaloCeeEss 5 жыл бұрын

Grand Seiko is much better than Rolex. Rolex is for fashionistas.

@MaloCeeEss 5 жыл бұрын

Plus, 10 grand for a Sub? You have got to be kidding me. 10 grand for a machine made, average movement, steel watch that depends on propaganda to convince people their product is better. Swiss watch companies should be proud of the Jedi Mind Tricks they played on everyone, they definitely convinced the public that their machine made watch is better. A soul? Are you kidding me? So a machine/robot made watch has a soul? I don't think so. It takes a human artisan working with their hands to give an inanimate object a soul, and the GS is made by hand. If anything, GS is the watch with the soul. Rolex is for people that seem to think that European tech is somehow better just because it's European. I find that hilarious, I'm not a European fan of anything, especially cars and watches.

@vinchel118 5 жыл бұрын

Plus he sets his rolex watch by using the grand seiko. In my opinion GS is head and tails over Rolex in every respect.