GTT to GTR Conversion is Crazy EXPENSIVE!

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I'm still not sure what to think. What would you pay for an R34 GTR if you had 500k in the bank? The market is insane but does it make sense?
00:00 Intro
00:33 The Question
01:14 An M-Spec Nur Doesn’t Sell?
02:31 GTT and standard GTR Prices are Nuts Too
03:36 The Inflation Argument
04:42 Don’t Meet Your Heroes?
05:43 Theoretical GTT Build
06:18 Design Specs
06:43 The GTT
07:02 The Quarter Panel Conversion
07:51 The perfect sound
08:22 Transmission Problems
08:41 120k before we’re even done?!
09:39 Possible Conclusions?
10:33 Outro
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@orest395 2 ай бұрын

The only reason I would convert a gt to a gtr, is to have gtr with a wide bodykit, I don’t feel right cutting up an actual gtr

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

That's fair! Though I haven't ever seen a widebody GTR I actually like tbh. I prefer the stock dimensions

@orest395 2 ай бұрын

By widebody, I mean the stock fenders, just a bit wider than stock, to where you can tell it’s wider than stock but subtle

@BauregardSenior87 2 ай бұрын

At some point that may be the only way to have a GTR.

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

Imho it’s like restoring a lower trim muscle car but putting in a nicer engine to replicate a nicer car (e.g. a replica 1968 GT500)

@jaker2731 2 ай бұрын

@Und34d_R the vin number makes it a GTR you can easily use stagea chassis rails and front floor pan hump to build a awd clone. The gearbox gets swapped for a sequential anyway, drivetrain upgraded so it all comes down to what you want

@Indy3pct.r 2 ай бұрын

You can import them now since the 25 year limit is up

@ObeseChess 23 күн бұрын

@@Indy3pct.rright, but they’re regularly being sold for $100k+, with higher trims like the V-Spec Nur going for at least double that in good condition. This is an expensive build but he’s probably going to save about $100k over a similarly equipped GTR.

@killakam123321 2 ай бұрын

Sad honestly. For the price you could fine several other cars that are faster and better in general. Really love the r34 too but never could see myself spending 100k+ on something thats more if a novelty

@TheRacingJoker Ай бұрын

it's a rough world we live in

@Zerofightervi 2 ай бұрын

Thanks American, you've inflated the price of these once affordable cars for everyone else.

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

I don't think it matters anymore. Rich people who have no sense of value anymore have allowed all these sellers to get away with this nonsense.

@Zerofightervi 2 ай бұрын

@@TheRacingJoker Being a Brit we've been fortunate enough to have access to these cars for years. The R34 GT-R was actually available here officially. It even gained some parts the JDM models didn't have like Connolly leather seats & extra coolers. You could pick up some Skylines for 10k. Someone I knew had an R33 GT-R V-Spec N1 that cost him 12k. To see these cars with 6 figures in the windscreen just goes against everything these cars once stood for, affordable performance.

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

@@Zerofightervi affordable performance. This is why the market ticks me off so much.

@Zerofightervi 2 ай бұрын

@@TheRacingJoker There's still the Mitsubishi 3000 GT 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Salty_reviews 2 ай бұрын

@@ZerofighterviGee thanks, now the price of those has skyrocketed 😂

@Emppu_T. Ай бұрын

About time we start appreciating old cars in their original form

@TheRacingJoker Ай бұрын

If that’s your style! I’ve never been big on stock tbh

@61936 2 ай бұрын

Literally just go buy like a 6 speed 911 turbo at that point

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

You can get a Huracan for some of what these cars are going for

@dedd.b01 2 ай бұрын

A gtr conversion only costs this much if you let it.

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

If you know some good deals on original GTR parts I’d love to know the secret

@blue6gun 2 ай бұрын

27k and change isn't even that bad for a built RB26DETT, its atleast 10K more for a complete TC24-B1Z from OS Giken that uses an L-series straight-6 as the base. Either might as well be a million bucks cuz I couldn't afford it one way or the other lol

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

It's honestly not a bad price. Heck the BMW S65 crate engine I want ranges from 45k to 65k

@mditani 2 ай бұрын

That's what I'm doing in my garage conversion from gtt to gtr body, I have done three of so far with the genuine quarter panel absolutely amazing result.

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

That’s awesome. It looks just that much better with the GTR fitment.

@yayo-lx9db Ай бұрын

You sound like Asmon gold when I close my eyes

@TheRacingJoker Ай бұрын

Huh that’s interesting. I mean I do watch his stuff a fair bit nowadays lol

@JDMdrifterboy7 14 күн бұрын

If you don't mind the r33 interior and tail lights, here is another option: R33 coupe R34 Bee*r front conversion Whatever powertrain you like Done.

@JDMdrifterboy7 14 күн бұрын

Also, Bee*r is exactly what you think. The dude thought beer was good, so the name is good. Hence, the name BEE*R.

@JDMdrifterboy7 14 күн бұрын

And Tomei sells BRAND NEW RB engines!

@caseymedina2007 2 ай бұрын

but you can also do those things overtime instead of spending 150k right away

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

True! If that works better for you.

@DrewMcLawhorn-cz8rd 7 күн бұрын

Remember they want thos expensive until they hit the states.

@sgtkloikloi2549 Ай бұрын

16k$ for a fender conversion?? That is overpriced af. I bought the panels 2 months ago in japan for a total of around 2k, got them delivered to me to germany for another 1.5k and got a quote for 3k to install them on my car (including inner fender extension). That would be a total of 6.5k€ which would be around 7kUSD. Whoever gave you that install quote is ripping you off ^^"

@TheRacingJoker Ай бұрын

For the steel quarter panels, fuel lid and paint they qouted you 7 grand? That’s a huge price discrepancy

@sgtkloikloi2549 Ай бұрын

@@TheRacingJoker ahh, you meant including paint ^^" I´m going to paint myself so that is not calculated into that but even so 16k is still quite a lot even with painting. Dont know how much it costs to paint a car in the us but here in germany 6-7k is a realistic price. That would theoretically total out at ~13-14k

@sgtkloikloi2549 Ай бұрын

@@TheRacingJoker and btw. dont just look at oneprice offers like at garageDefend for an r34. Auctions are your best bet (even though there is a lot of shit in there). Got mine frome the auctions aswell and payed around 35k USD including registration here in germany.

@TheRacingJoker Ай бұрын

@@sgtkloikloi2549 I started looking at the auctions again recently. I just wish there was a place where I could see Japan auction sales results

@sunnydaze8179 2 ай бұрын

😢Don't let this distract you from the fact that in 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire The A-Team😊

@Elmas_Chingon 2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@TheRacingJoker Ай бұрын

Honestly this is great because it starts in a very similar way to the hector copy pasta

@nashidaperv2351 2 ай бұрын

At that point just get a gtr.

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

If you can I guess do it 🫡 it’s either gonna stabilise or get worse

@nashidaperv2351 2 ай бұрын

@@TheRacingJoker personally im still aiming for a nur spec for the r34s specifically. Hopefully when i get the chance to go to japan once i join the military i can maybe get one for a fairer price.

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

@@nashidaperv2351I haven’t looked at the v spec II Nur market in a while. But the m spec nur is still at the 300k margin

@BrandonS2K43 2 ай бұрын

@@nashidaperv2351All skyline Gtrs have the same engine no? So isn't it better to get a base GTR and save some cash for mods

@nashidaperv2351 2 ай бұрын

@@BrandonS2K43 thats what im saying. It costs a whole gtr to convert a gtt to a gtr, so just get one from the get go and save the hassle. Its better to just save up for a barebones base gtr or v spec and mod that. Also gotta think of resale value, a genuine gtr will always sell more than a converted one.

@chandlerbraaten847 5 күн бұрын

The price of these cars is too exaggerated. There are so many better cars you could get for that amount of money.

@tesmanit 2 ай бұрын

Also you have to make it awd

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

Agreed! I’ve seen people use R33 GTR parts to do that

@JamesAkers-ok8wd Ай бұрын

That engine price is for long block only I'm pretty sure? Rhat doesn't include turbo ect...?

@TheRacingJoker Ай бұрын

No it doesn't include things like the turbo

@RESPECTxORANGES Ай бұрын

For the love of god please don’t cut up a lighting yellow Nissan from the 90s. That’s literally the rarest color for skyline and Silvia. Just get a standard color gtt and repaint it please bro😢

@TheRacingJoker Ай бұрын

I’d prefer a black one. Keeps colour changes simple

@VGT-R 2 ай бұрын

Can I ask one question? how much was all of this just for the body conversion?

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

Rear quarter panel conversion is 16k ish. After that it depends on what paint and bodykit you want

@buildingcarsissohard1813 2 ай бұрын

@TheRacingJoker "Bodykit"? No, no body kit. OEM BNR34 complete front end. Fenders, bumper, hood and all associated conversion pieces. Around $10k painted with the Xenons... Edit: *without xenons

@iamnobody8474 Ай бұрын

Someone with more money than sense. A fools errand.

@TheRacingJoker Ай бұрын

I’ve got a follow up video that I think people will find interesting

@freestyleskyline 2 ай бұрын

Why start with an expensive and engine if its all coming out?

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

Finding an R34 GTT coupe for less than 25k to 50k is not easy

@whocares5188 2 ай бұрын

I like the gtt better. You can actually do burn outs

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

One of my friends has an R32 GTR with a switch that allows him to put all the power to the rear if he ever wants to make some smoke

@bryceocain5234 Ай бұрын

More money than brains i guess

@TheRacingJoker Ай бұрын

The market is so dumb. And the people with too much money to see value anymore make it even worse

@Apexbossman 2 ай бұрын

Where's the full video

@TheRacingJoker Ай бұрын

Bottom left

@MuhammadFirdaus-et4xr 16 күн бұрын

🎉i want now and then

@TheRacingJoker 12 күн бұрын

"I want 'em all"

@thanos8914 2 ай бұрын

Rather just get a gtr or 911 at that point

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

Huracan for me with that kind of money. There’s some sub 200k huracans out there now

@kevinewing6609 2 ай бұрын

Why would you do all that when you can buy a gtr for the same price you are paying anyway

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

This is from a longer video trying to see if a GTR is worth the current market prices (140k and more). The conclusion is up to the audience

@user-mm5jf5fw9f Ай бұрын

Good

@TheRacingJoker Ай бұрын

Very good

@Enrodyzeus 2 ай бұрын

Panel swapping isn’t hard 💀

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

It's trickier if you don't have the panels, oem wheel well parts, genuine quarter panels, the tools or the time.

@VIPK9 Ай бұрын

GTR tax any other collision shop would charge 500 per side

@keepitzipped 2 ай бұрын

Dash and interiors diffrent. You dont get 4 wheel turning on a gtt

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

I can live without the four wheel steering tbh. And I’d personally do a custom leather and alcantara interior

@keepitzipped 2 ай бұрын

@TheRacingJoker I was just pointing out it's a little bit more than engine and body kit 😅 to make a true GTR

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

@@keepitzippeda proper conversion is a super involved project. Wiring, interior work, steel quarters, GTR drivetrain swap parts, the engine, the dash. It can get overwhelming as you put together a list of everything you need

@skittlesxx2729 2 ай бұрын

u can literally buy a gtr bro😭

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

Working on the 140k I need as we speak

@moonfake8524 2 ай бұрын

Made it way more expensive than necessary

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

The proper way is expensive, it’s the only way to gauge if it’s truly ‘worth’ it

@moonfake8524 2 ай бұрын

@@TheRacingJokercuz “proper” needs a 27 thousand dollar motor then 50k for a base with good paint to cut up makes total sense, start with a roller buy stagea all wheel system, fbo the rb25 with a new turbo, rb26 head cover, new harnesses. Wow way cheaper fake gtr

@wyattsmith7665 2 ай бұрын

Yea it makes perfect sense to start with a clean chassis lmao. Saves thousands in prep and restoration work. These are 90’s jap tin cans after all they do rust lmao

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

@@moonfake8524never said that wasn’t an option. This is an exercise in building a car to GTR spec using GTR parts. To see if buying a real GTR is worth it or not. If building a proper conversion where the only difference is the VIN is cheaper… then GTRs are overpriced

@moonfake8524 2 ай бұрын

@@TheRacingJoker so a GTR comes with a 27,000 dollar motor from HKS? and u didn’t spec out the price of the difference in the GTR interior

@jerrylee3887 2 ай бұрын

Over fenders is clown behaviour 😂😂😂

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

For the oem look I deffo prefer steel. If it’s something like a moulded widebody that’s fine by me

@bbyglo300 2 ай бұрын

Idk TJ Hunt did it

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

Did he? I’m currently binging his M4 series

@Indy3pct.r 2 ай бұрын

Couldn’t you have found a gtr for that price?

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

Not for 50k not even close

@Indy3pct.r 2 ай бұрын

@@TheRacingJoker he was at about 100k when all said and done

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

@@Indy3pct.ra GTR these days is going to be around 140k if you want something in good condition

@bossmode421 Ай бұрын

Dont waste your time on the R34 GTT Its just better to get a R35 faster, more power, and better performance. Why waste all the money and time? lol

@TheRacingJoker Ай бұрын

I prefer the look of the r34 chassis

@syygnis 2 ай бұрын

Get a 32 instead.

@TheRacingJoker Ай бұрын

That’s a little cheaper lol. Closer to 60k

@syygnis Ай бұрын

@@TheRacingJoker The 34 with that conversion is well over 60k and still isn't a GTR so...

@v8ncenzosaviano813 2 ай бұрын

Don't forget to put the HICAS!

@TheRacingJoker Ай бұрын

I'm not a super big fan of rear steering ngl

@jeromeespiritu9461 2 ай бұрын

There is no way to convert a gtt to a Gtr. They are two separate cars despite sharing the same skyline name. You can put all the GTR parts on a skyline GTR and it’ll still be a gtt.

@TheRacingJoker 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely, this is more an experiment to help people decide if shelling the cash to get a true GTR (140k+) is worth it or not by finding some tangible value. You can absolutely make a GTT drive like a GTR by converting all the correct components, but do you save any money? Is getting a full GTR a better option? It’s an irritating question to ask when an R34 GTR used to be a great car for not a lot of money, now it’s just a car for a lot of money.

@jeromeespiritu9461 2 ай бұрын

@@TheRacingJoker thanks for not upbadging! Obviously I’m biased but I think it’s worth the price. The history, the pedigree, it’s a blast to drive on circuits and it’s a blast to drive on mountain roads. Are there better cars? Of course. Sadly this is the only “dream car” I can get my hands on since I don’t have f40 or f1 money haha But you earned a subscriber!

@googleuser4207 2 ай бұрын

Ok boomer

@jeromeespiritu9461 2 ай бұрын

@@googleuser4207 :(