Florida Girl?

They hate the california sunlight and heat though. UV sunlight breaks down the plastic tarp material after a year or two, it becomes very easy to tear. I'd suggest aluminum paint. The silver blocks the sun quite well. Titanium white is not bad either lets indirect light in. Latex type. The homeless learned that even a huge cardboard box pained well stands up to weather fairly well.

Thanks for watching and sharing your experiences. That's the first I've heard of the wire ropes failing. Good to know and keep and eye on...

I too kept ratchet straps (that I used to keep the pipes together during assembly) on it while it was being used and that worked GREAT. Also we only used the HF shelter during the winter months for a side by side with a plow, then disassembled it in the spring. Held up for years and sold it with the side by side and it was in great shape - cable tie-downs held up nicely. Several winter storms with decent wind speeds came thru during its life on our property and it held up without issue. It was also next to a larger structure so that helped with breaking the direct impact of the higher gusts. Door zipper on one side failed at some point. Also I put a 1” PVC pipe on bottom of roll-up door for ease of operation and that worked great. Cost of the HF vs the SL seems to be a factor tbh

Thank you for taking the time to say thanks!

Thanks for watching and sharing your experiences. My general rule of thumb is to keep any tent-like shelters out of the wind and sun and you can get some decent life out of it. Some may then say "well if you keep it out of the sun and wind then you probably don't need a shed in that spot" but they are good for keeping the rain off things of course. I should do an updated video because I've had both brands fail but in different ways since this video. The HF did not handle the snow load as well as the SL seemed to but again the sheds were in different locations and other factors than pure snow load may have come into play (branches possibly fell, etc.) I see HF has continued to make improvements by now providing bolts in addition to the "slip-fit" connections. I would still opt for the HF sheds today due to initial cost but I understand they may not hold up as well as the SL in some circumstances.

Thanks for watching! So far things are holding up well although they have only been through one winter as of the time of this message.

Thanks for watching and adding your experiences. I will try to remember to do updates as time goes on and share the results of these although the Shelterlogic has been in place for one year already so it has a head start. I fully agree a broken shed is not worth any cost or time savings if you have to keep replacing it.

My Harbor Freight 10x17 garage has been up for 7 years now.

​@originaLkomatoast what environment is it living in? Any wind/weather block(wall, tree, similar) nearby helping protect it? Thanks

Thanks for watching and the positive comment! HF had a $199 deal on these over the recent Black Friday. Unfortunately I picked up a couple older versions of these that disappointed - mainly because they were missing the correct parts (4 of part "A1" were included instead of two of "A1" and two of "A2" which are the upper corner structure pipes.) HF customer support could not source the correct structure parts either; only the tarp components. So I was left with modifying the structure (converting A1s into A2s) to salvage it. Yes, I could have taken it back but it was quicker and less hassle to just modify the parts and move on but it was a show stopper in getting the sheds up in the anticipated timeframe in any case. While that was a negative experience it's not preventing me from purchasing HF products in the future. Just chalked it up to "stuff happens" and hoping not to see it moving forward a whole lot again.

Thanks for watching!

Thanks for watching and the positive comment!

Thanks for watching! Yes, the sheds are located where snow falls can reach similar amounts to you and yes we have seen one catastrophic cave-in due to heavy snowfall. I've had around 20 sheds total and about roughly the same amount of each brand. I don't want to say which one failed because it's hard to say for sure that the brand that was not there would not have failed. All I can say is it is possible to have a collapse due to "excessive snow" and I would recommend keeping any out from under coniferous trees that can have a tendency to drop a lot of snow at one time onto a shed below it.

Thanks for watching. I’ve had one Shelter Logic get pulled out and turned over in “high winds” because it was improperly anchored which was not the shelter’s fault. Would definitely recommend ensuring anchors are set to full depth in all four corners and adding additional ones if there are wind concerns in your area. Consider using Vortex anchors if the ground has a lot of stone in it as these tend to drive more easily in rocky soil. Otherwise it’s too early to tell in my case which is better. I don’t see any reason why one would be better than the other at this point as long as they are correctly installed. The HF is probably a little more sensitive to the tightness of the ratchets since it doesn’t use fasteners at the frame joints so there is a higher probability it can come apart than the SL if the tarp material is not tight enough.

Thanks for watching! The HF and SL units in the video are both holding up fine. However, I have other units installed that have not being doing as well, both HF and SL. At this point, the SL units *seem* to have a very slight strength advantage for their structure (their pipe frames), but the only way to confirm for sure is replacing the HF ones with SL ones in the same locations and have the SL units experience the same weather conditions which may not occur again. The HF units are suffering from piping failures and usually where they are not protected as well from the wind from surrounding objects like trees. Snow loads have been a problem when storms bring 8-10 inches *sometimes*. But again, they are very close in capability and *IF* the SL has an advantage it is so minimal that I don't think it would make a difference from a practical standpoint. It's kind of like having two cars with one getting 30 mpg and the other getting 31 mpg. Yes, on a 1000 mile trip you might save $5 using the car that gets 31 mpg but as far as one car making it the distance and the other not, it's only under conditions that are in such a precise window you'll likely never experience it. If you can, try to keep the units out of direct sunlight and wind as much as possible. Those two factors are the most detrimental to their lifespan, especially the covers and both brands behave similarly.

Thanks for watching! A drill adapter is not included. The link for the one used is in the description if you're interested. You might want to consider the heavy duty (HD50) one rated for impact use as the one shown in the video is not. Impact drivers can install larger anchors and in more difficult ground and won't twist your arm off in the process!

Thank you for watching! I hope to do more of similar topics.

It’s the LD model for the link in the description. The HD models allow using an impact driver which can be handy.

I have not installed any on concrete pads but there are videos on KZfaq where others have. Whatever you put them on make sure you have them anchored.

Thanks for watching and commenting. Sounds like more price hikes are in store unfortunately:(

@@Ilikeurtractor prices go up quilty goes down

One video that would be neat is to do an endurance test of a Chinese diesel vs. a Lister-Petter (how long each would run until failure.) Unfortunately I do not know the existing run time on any of the Listers I have so that could affect outcome. I would anticipate the Listers would outlast the Chinese engines regardless of their history based on their construction which appears to be directed towards longevity (twice as heavy, much larger bearing surfaces, etc.) There seems to be quite a few home generator builds on KZfaq already (albeit I haven't seen many with the Chinese diesels) but the only real difference would be to adjust the driving speed of the diesel to keep it at its most efficient speed which is probably somewhere around 2700 rpm.

According to a NY Times article, 80% of the price increases we are seeing is due to ‘greed-flation’ and record breaking corporate profits reflect this - I’ve decided to buy only absolute necessities this year, really limiting any prepared food and eating out as well

Put America first when Shelter Logic parts are manufactured in China and put together as a conglomerate product in different countries all around the globe...and HARBOR FREIGHT is 98% Cheap Chinese Junk... But yeah you go ahead and preach your patriotic bullshit...what a fucking joke

The leaders of this country have almost no effect on corporate greed that is the real reason everything costs so much. But GOP totally supports corporations and corporate welfare. So careful who you blame!