How well does it work when you're taller than your opponent?

Christopher Hyatt Jesus Christ man you’re HUGE

same here with the whips...we're now carrying them outside while walking entertainers and staff to their cars...May have to deal with more than 1 guy and still have to get the ladies to their car or back inside; and you have lots of room to move and operate the whip in the lot...3 or more guys; the pepper spray comes out

@sonder sonder they must be very drunk

doesn't hurt but is dropping mf 350 pounds on em

I did judo for years and he is absolutely right 🤣

We Judokas have traumas with the slap-fight

As a former judoka, I'm in this comment and I don't like it.

looks like catch wrestling to me

@@twistedbydsign99 a big part of catch wrestling is base on judo,even if they don't use the gi a lot of the system is similar in positioning and ground work

Yeah. It's something that's not really addressed in many combat sports and not at all addressed in the "STREET" systems. The vast majority of times an officer is going hands-on with someone, they're non-compliant but not aggressive. They're two different things and the former doesn't necessarily necessitate going 100% shooting for a takedown or a throw. Something between strict verbal commands and full-intensity grappling is invaluable.

The last martial art technique i used on da streetz was a basic single hand wrist look I always told myself was stupid and would never work, some tripper came up to take my bike and as his hand touched the seat I grabbed it and wrist locked him onto the ground. Worked a treat

I wonder why?

Toooooooooo common

They're pretty intense if you see them in action they sure don't hold off on going 100% even on defenseless ppl.. gotta respect a real one who knows his power and to hold it back

Jonathan Flamholtz he thinks he is hilarious

The odd part about the "police" arm bar is it can actually work if done properly and the other person isn't ready for it. Basically hits a pressure point which makes you lose control of your hand for a split second ( which is just enough time to gain advantage when needed) I took BJJ lessons for a few years and i was talking smack to a buddy who was a cop. I told him " keep it up pig and I'll put an arm bar on ya " He quickly did the "police" arm bar on me replying ..." oh you mean this 1???" I wasn't really expecting him to attack me but..... Yep he put me down quick with it and i felt like a helpless little girl 🤣 I did get him back by throwing an ankle lock on him and tossing his ass on the ground with it. Ahhh it's nice to have fun with friends !

@@hard2hurt what if you tackle or punch during the process?

@@henryposadas3309 *EXACTLY!* Most cops are VERY poorly trained at the one thing (Chin Na) that all cops SHOULD become EXPERT'S at. I've seen MANY cops embarrass themselves and fail at their poorly done joint manipulation efforts even against scrawny or overweight teenagers who did NOT want to comply. Don't blame the art, blame YOUR poor training, lack of proper technique or technical understanding.

henry Posadas I’m not saying the armbar is useless, but until we see it applied in sparring or caught in real-life on camera, it is useless.

Do you want roll with me on the mat.

you ve got a loicense to watch such youtube videos?

Yeah if you are strong, experienced and outweigh the guy by 100 pounds you can make anything work.

Never in my history of altercation has it ever been hey bigger and in better shape guy f*ck you.

I'm definitely going to work on this maneuver. Combative situations are almost daily in my hospital.

Same! Came here for tips other than the ones they give us that don't actually work

Brometheus Marmalade thanks, I am terribly rusty, which I alluded to in the video, but one important part of what we use is that we do NOT have to be super smooth, technical grappling wizards.

Brometheus Marmalade its also relatively idiot proof.

Yep. We have this too in Combat Shuai Chiao.

@@Zack1440 yeah man we also have it in bullshido

@@godeater6382 That was just a *dick* comment. Do you even know what Shuai Chiao is, or did you just assume that it must be some useless Kung Fu because of its name? I'd never heard of it, but instead of typing up a dick comment, I took a whole 2 minutes out of my day to do a quick search, and a few more minutes out of my day to watch a couple of videos. Seems pretty legit to me: Chinese Judo, in essence. But _even if_ it was a completely useless, unrealistic Kung Fu, that _still_ wouldn't justify you being such a dick!

Use that move now and end up with your knee on the guy's face, and you can look up and see 8-10 guys shooting videos with their cell phones. In the morning you will already have been fired from the police force, multiple excess force and police brutality charges against you have been brought, and you also get a call from a personal injury lawyer informing you that you're being sued personally along with your PD for $100 million. So, these days things are different. Taser em if you have to. Don't let anyone see you with a knee on a face.

I was taught this as a counter to a failed arm bar take down where it takes them by surprise going the other way. You have to stay in close and do it fluidly though and takes practice. More practice than they give us paid training time to perfect and stay competent in through the years. This will straight up not be practical when there's a size/strength disparity and smaller officers will need to up the force level most likely

@@Ironfangzu Way to create your own narrative of what actually happened..

Rex kwon do?

(1) breaking a wrist can be very difficult with non compliant person (2) someone is drugged, very aggressive or armed will use their other weapons/limbs

Yeh 100%. Sometimes cheesy wristlocks work because fights are all different.. if they're not fully engaged often useful. Not every confrontation is two huge guys with knives out to kill you. Sometimes it's a skinny 12 year old with a baseball bat.

@@elizajames477 Agreed. I have actually used kote gaeshi multiple times IRL. Once when my drunk friend tried to push me. Getting aggressive. Once when someone grabbed me by my necktie. I think the joint locks from aikido work. Just not the way aikido teaches it. You are not gonna catch someone's wrist mid-air. But if you intercept with a punch or clinch first it can work.

It takes a Hapkido guy to see that. :)

Right, he uses his arm on the same side, judo players are taught to extend the arm across the rib cage with two on one wrist control.

@@andrewl.8626 Yeah I was thinking I have never seen a double wrist lock fail, that arm is coming home with you one way or another.

"done correctly" ...to people drunk enough that they start responding to the gravitational pull of all gravitational points in our solar system at the same time or people that are otherwise no real threat but to anybody physically weaker, as well as weaker of mind? Got it.

Yea, while I really like the take down in the video (and have worked different versions of it), I do NOT consider the arm bar take down ineffective. I will agree with what the big bouncer said tho - this is SAFER.

Look up Walt Bayless combat jiujitsu takedowns on KZfaq. The tapes came out in the 90's so they're old and kinda silly production wise but he was an absolute genius and his tapes are solid gold as far as technique.

Yeah idk. I've done this before against non compliant subjects (full contact sparring) before. Sure it doesn't work if you actively do it incorrectly. But that's just obvious.

From what I see, very few people who teach or criticise JJ techniques don't understand or apply any of the small details involved. Amongst other schools, I trained at a Bujinkan school for 6 months, you can say what you like about them, and its true 99% of them couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag, but the body mechanics and skill level (of the teacher at that school) was very impressive....

@RON TER Didn't do 27 years behind a desk but thanks for your assumptions.

26 years... Arm bar never failed.

Sorry, what did you mean with class-1 and 3? Does that indicate level of resistance?

@@Leadfoot_P71 A class one lever is the most efficient motion, like a teeter-totter on a playground. In a Class-1 Lever, the FULCRUM is in the center (at the elbow). The EFFORT should be you pulling on the wrist, and the LOAD is the opponent's shoulder (and thus their body) going in the opposite direction of the EFFORT. I have been a Law Enforcement and Security trainer for over 30 years and constantly have to retrain people that learned how to do the arm-bar as a Class-3 Lever (pushing in the center at what should be the fulcrum. It is inefficient and difficult to do on a bigger opponent but most D.T. instructors tend to be big guys. I was not a big guy and thus my instructor, Taika Seiyu Oyata, taught me do do it as a Class-1 Lever as well as a few other tricks. When you push on the elbow, you have moved the fulcrum to the shoulder, you have to use a lot more force as it is now a Class 3 Lever and extremely inefficient. Anyone pushing down on the elbow, relying on the weight of their body on the elbow, to force an opponent down does not understand the simple physics of the 3 simple machines (levers). Below is the first thing that showed up on google for a search of Lever classes. www.school-for-champions.com/machines/levers_classess.htm#.XcMkoZJKhhE

@@KCRyuShinKan Wow, that was really interesting. Thank you for taking the time and explaining! So when doing this take-down, rather than pushing with my elbow I should be pulling with my hand and just kind of keeping my elbow still, right?

It works if you attack the head and get it lower than you. And almost lower than your hip height. So for a smaller person. Almost no hope in hell. Unless they try to bend and roll away.

Dont see this being vulnerable to a sprawl, guilotine yes but if you keep your head up and keep your right shoulder up it shouldn’t be easy to do

Agreed. That's how I see most people trying it, and of course the technique will not work if you apply it improperly. Not that anything works 100% of the time, but if you totally disregard a technique you're taking a tool out of your toolbox.

Eso es loco. Gracias por ver.

Thats because you dont train standing up enough

Joe Blank i agree Maybe you should experience how hard it can be to secure a takedown with a smaller but broad opponent when not in jiu jitsu class and people give away the takedowns because their guard is dangerous

Look up a proper arm drag. If for sure works in almost every combat sport. In this video he tries a very sloppy version that i dont really see working on any real athlete.

They try to run away because they have a concealed weapon or are holding drugs. Very Dangerous.

Well this is a good question, I've been a cop for over 12 years and I have never encountered somebody that has trained. Most bad guys are not out here getting their work out on. Doesn't mean it can't happen but it's not likely.