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Harmonizing Sax Soli - Block Voicings

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Adam Neely

Adam Neely

Күн бұрын

Using "the lick," we learn about some of the basic concepts of harmonizing saxophones in a big band context. Block voicing are the simplest way of dealing with harmony, and can yield some very nice musical results.
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@MrHestichs
@MrHestichs 8 жыл бұрын
Please do long like 30 min videos on just harmonizing and writing sheets for big bands etc, i love it!
@ApplepieFTW
@ApplepieFTW 7 жыл бұрын
agreed, this was really awesome and fun to watch, and instructive even though I didn't come here to learn (which means you're doing a lot of things right)
@markuskoivisto
@markuskoivisto 7 жыл бұрын
A really good book is "arranging for a large jazz ensemble"
@tpickles
@tpickles 7 жыл бұрын
Tom Kubis has just started doing this as a paid thing (he's got a KZfaq channel with previews), though not investigated them yet...
@shermanthompson871
@shermanthompson871 7 жыл бұрын
plz
@ChrisMarx
@ChrisMarx 7 жыл бұрын
I've taken the course at berklee that uses that book and read the entire thing. this was way more fun to watch him build it in the program than the book!
@korhonenmikko
@korhonenmikko 6 жыл бұрын
"Jazz is fun, that's what they told me in school." :)
@pwkotor47
@pwkotor47 7 жыл бұрын
ii-V-fun is my favorite chord progression!
@ihH6053
@ihH6053 6 жыл бұрын
Lil Will yep
@pixelking2000
@pixelking2000 7 жыл бұрын
I was questioning my whole life untill the end where the bass part came
@FilmsterStudios
@FilmsterStudios 5 жыл бұрын
*graduates from berklee* So what did you learn? *plays lick*
@091Cash
@091Cash 5 жыл бұрын
dududuru duu ru du
@ploopybear
@ploopybear 5 жыл бұрын
*looks directly into eyes and slowly moves hand to play lick*
@MusicFreddy
@MusicFreddy 4 жыл бұрын
but in all 30 keys!
@maxalain9948
@maxalain9948 4 жыл бұрын
burk li
@Qermaq
@Qermaq 3 жыл бұрын
Heh Berklee '89 and never learned this lick. But I did learn to wake up early hung over and still pass conducting class.
@chewondoggy
@chewondoggy 6 жыл бұрын
your music abilities are one thing, but your ability to throw in references and memes is what makes you a true treasure
@CJB1103
@CJB1103 7 жыл бұрын
This whole video I was looking at the Bari part going "it's all wrong tho" and then I realised it's in bass clef.. yay for concert scores
@mia-luca8775
@mia-luca8775 4 жыл бұрын
Im just asking why it is in bass clef
@cameo2277
@cameo2277 4 жыл бұрын
PHANCO!!! Lmao imagine the Bari player just taking out the music for first rehearsal and just saying *well I’m mortally fucked* I know this joke wouldn’t happen but the concept is there
@cameo2277
@cameo2277 4 жыл бұрын
C4pt41nN3m0 yes I know you can transpose but that sounds like cancer to me
@cameo2277
@cameo2277 4 жыл бұрын
If you were to learn the part using the bass clef sheet music, that is
@anon8740
@anon8740 4 жыл бұрын
@@cameo2277 transiting is fine once you're used to it. It is cancer for a little while though. It took me a couple of months to get used to it.
@arckanon13
@arckanon13 8 жыл бұрын
Great lesson! Please do more lessons on harmonizing, big band writing/arranging, etc
@michaelmyers4837
@michaelmyers4837 7 жыл бұрын
As a classically trained person who thinks with a jazz mindset, these simple rules that "break" the rules help me tremendously on a day-to-day basis with sectional part writing. Thanks so much for making it clearer than the books.
@jerrodshackelford6773
@jerrodshackelford6773 Жыл бұрын
This was the first time I ever learned about writing tutti horn sections and now I am a professional big band arranger. Thanks, Adam!
@AndyChamberlainMusic
@AndyChamberlainMusic 6 жыл бұрын
I've calculated that 2% of the time when I try to like a video I accidentally dislike it. Assuming this is close to the norm, any video with a 98% like ratio or higher actually probably has a perfect like ratio. (this video: 2000/12 = 99%+ like ratio) *thumbs up*
@njamofficial
@njamofficial 6 жыл бұрын
Andy Chamberlain Music too much math for me 😩
@manuelninogarces9574
@manuelninogarces9574 5 жыл бұрын
You earned an accidental dislike sir.
@dhu2056
@dhu2056 5 жыл бұрын
Assuming people never accidentally like videos?
@godhimself568
@godhimself568 5 жыл бұрын
Damn how do you accidentally dislike 2% of likes. That's concerning
@Jefferson-ly5qe
@Jefferson-ly5qe 7 жыл бұрын
8:29 "Pressing play right now!" *We are number one begins*
@mus1cal4ddict76
@mus1cal4ddict76 7 жыл бұрын
If you teach composition i would like taking lessons.
@fionabegonia7802
@fionabegonia7802 3 жыл бұрын
Even I, an old lady piano teacher, often learn new things from your wonderful videos. Thanks, Adam! P.S. I wish I could match your facility with SIBELIUS program!
@topiporkka8413
@topiporkka8413 7 жыл бұрын
This is so funny and useful at the same time xD
@slimyelow
@slimyelow 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. I learned some stuff. The "Lets ignore this and leave it out" part comes as sort of a revelation.
@ksooshinka
@ksooshinka 5 жыл бұрын
Diction, mimicry, humor and the stave - and I forget that I barely know English. Dude, you're incredibly cool! Thank!
@noahgalbreathmusic
@noahgalbreathmusic 8 жыл бұрын
Wow this is a great video! Arranging anything can be scary if you look at it from a really broad perspective but this really broke it down in a way I could understand
@mpettymusic
@mpettymusic 4 жыл бұрын
Binged most of your channel a few months ago to start learning harmonies and the idea of chords flew over my head, but with a bit of high school level theory class and jazz improv under my belt, this video and many others on your channel are starting to make much more sense, and have helped me tremendously with composition. The style of video where you turn a musical meme into a legitimate theory and composition lesson that could pass as a college lecture has done more for me inspirationally than any music class I've taken, as the results always sound great. Keep the spice turned up and the chords rootless, thanks a ton!
@ChronicalV
@ChronicalV 5 жыл бұрын
oh my god thank you so much, I needed this for my jazz assignment and I was struggling with making the soli not sound abysmally dissonant with accidental tritones appearing everywhere due to my severe lack of arranging ability
@portineoo
@portineoo 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I was searching for a video to help with a minor issue I had on my composition class and Adam Neely saved me
@elianherrera5322
@elianherrera5322 7 жыл бұрын
As a sax player this is really cool man I appreciate this
@averyshumway2345
@averyshumway2345 7 жыл бұрын
I like watching the clock as he shoots the video in one take and then spends 2 and a half hours editing or doing whatever else before recording the final/intro clip
@GreatFlamingEyebrows_
@GreatFlamingEyebrows_ 6 жыл бұрын
Love how you end up talking in the key of the note you just play
@thebigbison9949
@thebigbison9949 6 жыл бұрын
And people say music theory is pointless🙄
@OfficialRomeM.
@OfficialRomeM. 4 жыл бұрын
TheBigBison right
@ihavegcc472
@ihavegcc472 4 жыл бұрын
who says that lol
@leotao4650
@leotao4650 3 жыл бұрын
@@ihavegcc472 ngl bare people think it's pointless unfortunately. A lot of people don't like the idea of thinking hard about music 😔
@ihavegcc472
@ihavegcc472 3 жыл бұрын
@@leotao4650 ahh yeah i see now what you mean lol... some of my friends are trying to make metal music and think music theory is useless.. i try getting them to at least learn a little bit but we'll see
@musical_lolu4811
@musical_lolu4811 3 жыл бұрын
Theory is pointless if you don't know how to use it.
@leonsibum
@leonsibum 7 жыл бұрын
Bummer!! I just arranged some close harmony vocals for an EP the other day. It worked out, but if I saw this earlier... Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@daveyewart4289
@daveyewart4289 7 жыл бұрын
i knew nothing of this when i started . i know a little now . thank you
@boralustral4663
@boralustral4663 8 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but this kind of voicing makes me think about a casino.
@steadyrhythms9571
@steadyrhythms9571 5 жыл бұрын
love you adam i needed this so bad and of course you came in clutch
@qehn
@qehn 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have just recently ventured into the world of jazz arranging, and this was very helpful.
@haizesax
@haizesax 3 жыл бұрын
great explanation! I love your sense of humor indeed , keep on posting videos!!!
@alieninstallation50
@alieninstallation50 7 жыл бұрын
sounds like you figured out music.
@maxvanhoutum
@maxvanhoutum 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite Neely video! Such usefull content!
@lucasglenn3079
@lucasglenn3079 6 жыл бұрын
omg I'm learning about all these embellishing tones and feel so smart calling out what type it is before you say it.
@mikeb6572
@mikeb6572 8 жыл бұрын
I'm new to this so excuse me if this sounds uninformed. There is no D in the D7. On beat three, why not have the bari sax play D? Or would that clash with the Eb tenor 1 is playing?
@evanwilliamson8338
@evanwilliamson8338 8 жыл бұрын
+Mike B It might clash a little, but given that it's an octave below it would probably sound fine. That would be the very nature of a flat 9 chord. However, the reason there isn't a D there is because the root of the chord is stable, bland, and rather uninteresting. A lot of the time, it is preferable to add other tones and substitutions to make the sound more colorful.
@mikeb6572
@mikeb6572 8 жыл бұрын
+evan williamson Cool. Thanks.
@evanwilliamson8338
@evanwilliamson8338 8 жыл бұрын
no prob
@SteffenThole
@SteffenThole 8 жыл бұрын
In addition to that, he chose to do a block voicing and one of the key elements of this kind of voicing is to have the top and bottom voice play the exact same notes, just an octave apart. The other voices just sort of mingle in between them to harmonize the chord. At least that's the definition that I know.
@jasonsavory9748
@jasonsavory9748 8 жыл бұрын
That's what the rhythm section is for :)
@Barukh
@Barukh 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing lesson! I hadn't seen it yet, since I discovered your channel in late 2016. "Cool!"
@FrancoGrimoldi
@FrancoGrimoldi 9 жыл бұрын
it sounds like jazz!!
@duetchops3768
@duetchops3768 Жыл бұрын
Pay attention!
@waxmax001
@waxmax001 4 жыл бұрын
Pls more about the process of harmonizing!
@marcusdurand5387
@marcusdurand5387 6 жыл бұрын
Do more of this stuff! I'm not very good at writing music,and I bet others are in the same boat as me, so this is really fantastic!
@yehudalichtenstein574
@yehudalichtenstein574 4 жыл бұрын
You could have use the diminished chord on two occasions here- especially on that g towards the end, i think it would have been better. Another option is a chromatic neighbor to each note of the solution. Overall it's a good demonstration of the "4way close" technique.
@laurentw650
@laurentw650 3 жыл бұрын
Sure could do with diminished chord, but it's old school. Now, it's up to the arranger to choose the right path... And there are many paths to choose from...
@musical_lolu4811
@musical_lolu4811 3 жыл бұрын
You can do whatever you want, there's no law says you must use the diminished.
@yehudalichtenstein574
@yehudalichtenstein574 3 жыл бұрын
@@musical_lolu4811 I never said anything about any law... You can reread my comment and see that I was only suggesting that it would have been better sounding if he used diminished. Not that it was some kind of law...
@BenjaminMorrenMusic
@BenjaminMorrenMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Almost 6 years later and the licc is still alive and well.
@thebigbison9949
@thebigbison9949 6 жыл бұрын
This is quite helpful Adam thank you for sharing and keep up the great work
@alexchubb6266
@alexchubb6266 6 жыл бұрын
Okay but in ii-V-Fun is the fun major or minor?
@vaclavmichalekmusic
@vaclavmichalekmusic 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Chubb major - the last chord was Gmaj7
@benjaminmarks8765
@benjaminmarks8765 5 жыл бұрын
Fun°(b9 #11)
@TomEyeTheSFMguy
@TomEyeTheSFMguy 4 жыл бұрын
Fun major
@Qermaq
@Qermaq 3 жыл бұрын
Fun = I = what mode you're in man.
@stevemanning8411
@stevemanning8411 Жыл бұрын
Major.
@mvcork
@mvcork 3 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial Adam. Love it. Thank you.
@morganherring6958
@morganherring6958 3 жыл бұрын
I found it... the place where it began... the video that started it all... the day this channel became Adam Neely and the Lick.
@Shuzies
@Shuzies 6 жыл бұрын
Great.................The college of Adam....thank you......rc
@catalystdrums123
@catalystdrums123 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video, but I want to say I appreciate your work
@i8tweak
@i8tweak 6 жыл бұрын
Itd be cool to see this melody employed with other techniques too!
@xtruthunfiltrd1192
@xtruthunfiltrd1192 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome tutorial, I'll be sure to keep this in mind!
@ZipplyZane
@ZipplyZane 6 жыл бұрын
Also, interesting on changing that chord to a minor 6 chord. I find that I have to change the major 7 to a major 6 in the traditional version of "A Christmas Carol" to get it to sound right, also because of that clash. I'm glad to know this is a normal substitution. (The only time it sounds like a Cmaj7 is when I extend it, particularly at the end, where I make it a Cmaj9 for that "jazz chord" ending.)
@tylereberts7354
@tylereberts7354 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, Great video! I love this kind of stuff, and would like to learn more about this kind of harmonization, specifically as applied to a larger section of a tune for a sax soli; for example Thad Jones' "Three and One," or Jerome Richardson's "Groove Merchant." If one were to carry out this process for a longer section, should the same principles be applied? Does the bari always double the melody of the lead alto? Any other fine-tuning kinds of things such as keeping the smaller intervals such as 2nds between the altos out of the equation? Is it a coincidence that both of the examples I mentioned use a soprano as the top voice rather than alto, or is that more of a stylistic choice that the composers wanted the color of soprano instead of alto? I have a feeling this is the kind of thing that I would just need to dive into and learn as I go along, but I'd love to get your input for how the process should work for a longer section in the context of an actual arrangement for a big band, rather than simply an exercise like you've demonstrated here.
@berxsol
@berxsol 6 жыл бұрын
I like this kind of gameplay
@ploopybear
@ploopybear 5 жыл бұрын
This is actually a big help. Thanks!!!
@johnathanpietz8482
@johnathanpietz8482 5 жыл бұрын
You can also play diminished chords for passing tones and not worry about what the relationship is to the next note.
@Elintasokas
@Elintasokas 8 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I'd love to see more.
@dylancleverdon486
@dylancleverdon486 5 жыл бұрын
thank you this is amazingly usefull i greatly appreciate it!!
@ryanmooncat3949
@ryanmooncat3949 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks.
@arara513
@arara513 4 жыл бұрын
This is jazzing magic.
@harilubovac9155
@harilubovac9155 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great lesson.
@IainMBB
@IainMBB 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@Reyes78
@Reyes78 6 жыл бұрын
This was extremely helpful and concise. Also, “2five… Fun“LOL
@ajadrew
@ajadrew 8 жыл бұрын
Now I really do know I know nothing.... Love it!
@MartijnHover
@MartijnHover 5 жыл бұрын
I could actually follow that. Nice.
@connorlearmonth665
@connorlearmonth665 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I've never heard that lick as a major 251 though. Maybe it would've worked out a little better as a minor 251 or 151 in A.
@TomEyeTheSFMguy
@TomEyeTheSFMguy 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on this sort of thing, but for trumpets?
@Ardeact
@Ardeact 6 жыл бұрын
The lick in the intro killed me
@AladynamedIsaac
@AladynamedIsaac 7 жыл бұрын
This is the exact thought process when voicing chords in a sax soli!
@pasonnosapwang6025
@pasonnosapwang6025 6 жыл бұрын
Cool , you are logical and a great teacher
@pzdipuing
@pzdipuing 6 жыл бұрын
Bro u r awesome i wis i had a fren like u who is professional
@mattiameis3300
@mattiameis3300 7 жыл бұрын
Great channel!!!
@RandomAwesomeism
@RandomAwesomeism 5 жыл бұрын
amazing. it takes you less than 10 minutes to compose this...it'd take me 10 minutes just to transcribe it on the computer.
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 2 жыл бұрын
Go on, push it to 5 voices! :D
@Salsuero
@Salsuero 5 жыл бұрын
And if this were the end of a passage, I might take the last two notes for the bari and double the bass... so A B C D B -> D -> G (down from B to D, then down from D to G). Now that's saxy phatness! The only thing I might've written differently is the labeling of the Am7 to actually be Am6. The chord really only has one instance of the 7, but three of the 6. Sure it can be considered natural chord tension or even a 13 for a technical interpretation, but I'd rather just make it the Am6 in this case. If I were providing the chords for a comp, I'd probably also mark the D7 as D13(b9) and the Gmaj7 as Gmaj9 (personally), but I'm ok with them being what they are for simplicity.
@ChrisMarx
@ChrisMarx 7 жыл бұрын
this is great!
@tanhongzhi2637
@tanhongzhi2637 7 жыл бұрын
The melody is from 'the lick' video.
@rillloudmother
@rillloudmother 8 жыл бұрын
great video!
@TedHadges
@TedHadges 9 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial!
@zinelabidineessihi
@zinelabidineessihi 4 жыл бұрын
I should have expected the licc being brought up just a few seconds in the video 😂
@johnbensinger4931
@johnbensinger4931 7 жыл бұрын
the intro😂😂😂
@davidlea430
@davidlea430 7 жыл бұрын
Unless u specifically want the notes to be 1 8ve lower I usually put bari sax in the bottom of the staff when I can (it's a nicer sound and for bari is easier). And the red notes aren't very hard for experienced players
@ethanauringer8304
@ethanauringer8304 6 жыл бұрын
David Lea The bari notes are low they're just written on bass clef because they're expressed in concert pitch. If they were transposed they would be low on the staff.
@davidlea430
@davidlea430 6 жыл бұрын
Ethan Auringer ahhh okay thank you I didn't catch that
@zacharyholmes2600
@zacharyholmes2600 5 жыл бұрын
Now that’s jazz
@sub-zeroseanotrs1857
@sub-zeroseanotrs1857 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone got a link to that "jazz" vocal effect
@RandomAwesomeism
@RandomAwesomeism 5 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/famokq1pyKu6l4U.html
@jazzyoutfit6670
@jazzyoutfit6670 4 жыл бұрын
hi, given the ii-V-I harmonization of the lick, I'd consider the loads of F#s on the ii chord as sort of distracting from the main voice-leading from ii to V, which is G (on ii) to F# (on V). Also, the nice b9 on the V chord (Eb) - as well as the 3 (F#) - are all too soon 'whiped away' by the following chord (on beat 4), which contains the 4 (G) and the 9 (E) again. Suggestion: I'd rather voice the A and C notes on the Am7 as Am7 (not 6), the B and D notes as G#o7 (to further avoid the F#). For the V chord, I'd see the melody notes B and G together as part of a D7sus4 to which I'd add a b9 for both voicings. In doing so, the main voice-leading (G to F#) will occur on resolving to the I chord only (which is perfectly fine). Here are the block chords note by note (from top to bottom): A-G-E-C-A / B-G#-F-D-B / C-A-G-E-C / D-B-G#-F-D / B-G-Eb-C-B / G-Eb-C-A-G / A-F#-D-B-A
@songfulmusicofsongs
@songfulmusicofsongs 4 жыл бұрын
Please can you record it in a response video? That would be awesome! I'm interested in different ways to arrange things and what each of them brings.
@juanframirez-villegas4806
@juanframirez-villegas4806 3 жыл бұрын
1:34 message from Justina :3 ... Great voice :)
@MrPhibbz
@MrPhibbz 7 жыл бұрын
awesome video
@stephenleebrownsr5521
@stephenleebrownsr5521 5 жыл бұрын
OMG. You were young.
@LukeBeadles
@LukeBeadles 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@man04321
@man04321 7 жыл бұрын
this was cool and different but still interesting
@donaldinglese1243
@donaldinglese1243 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a little late. But you can just read alto parts as bass clef. Or go up a minor third. That’s how I prefer to do it.
@santiagoa98
@santiagoa98 5 жыл бұрын
More videos of jazz arranging please!
@martyg374
@martyg374 9 ай бұрын
other possibilities exist, like diminshed approach (F natural for the tenor instead of F#.) Beat four could be called a diatonic approach for all voices.
@RyanHannaMusic
@RyanHannaMusic 4 ай бұрын
transposing instruments? is it like how when us metallers drop tune our guitars to C but still refer to our power chord fret positions as if it were still tuned to standard? so the first fret of the E string is usually F, when we are dropped to silly tunings we still call that fretting position F just to make it easier? so the lowest note of a transposing instrument could be thought of as a standard tuned guitar's open E, then the very next an F... ect, is that what that is all about?
@aguztinalvarez
@aguztinalvarez 4 жыл бұрын
great video...itll really help me if you do an example with trumpet,alto,tenor,trombone!!
@wendolienkrulmuziek
@wendolienkrulmuziek 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lesson! Personally, I would've also liked to see how it would look for the players (instead of concert pitch) at the end. Do you consider making a lick practical for the instruments that actually play them or are you only focusing on the sound you want to hear?
@JaraxinK
@JaraxinK 6 жыл бұрын
3:38 basically, the tenor player is going to have to articulate that E amongst the whole thing, and it's not really fun for the tenor player. I may just be lazy with my articulation, but thanks for understanding.
@knifevsspoons
@knifevsspoons 4 жыл бұрын
I love you thank you
@brandongcassels9009
@brandongcassels9009 3 жыл бұрын
Noticed that there are'nt any Metric modulation markings, how does Sibelius know that it should play with a swing feel? Because that swing feel is what make it ultimately sound like Jazz
@jazzarrangingclass8974
@jazzarrangingclass8974 4 жыл бұрын
2nd eighth note works better as an F natural in Tenor 1, so it becomes G# dim 7th to Ami7
@Qermaq
@Qermaq 3 жыл бұрын
Scoring in concert pitch makes my instrumentation hurt.... also I hate that b9 because it cannot be maintained thru due to the #2 that would result in the A2 part. It's just a bit jarring. Other than that, this is exactly how I write for saxes and great job!
@farnaztabatabaee
@farnaztabatabaee 3 жыл бұрын
Please do more of these videos!like piano harmonizing for a big band!
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