Facts one is dealing with a god the other a group of bigots

and yet, piper and leo got claimed at 16 when the agreement was 13

@@darriongeorge5137 he never told them when only that they do it

@@darriongeorge5137 ??? But when did Percy confront Zeus? and When did he agree? By the end of the Last Olympian? When Percy and crew are *SIXTEEN YEARS OLD* -- the way you worded your comment ("and yet") in response to the OP makes it seem like the Gods only honored their agreement 16 years after, when that was not the case at all.

​@darriongeorge5137 16 months not years

That Percy outright *_chooses_* to be the child of prophecy so as to not have Nico be burdened with it (see the questers all assembling on Olympus in TTC as the gods meet for the winter solstice) should also be noted.

Bianca died?

titans curse

I agree. The prophecies feel like they come more naturally in Percy Jackson. Especially in the end of The Last Olympian, (Spoiler Alert) when it's revealed that Percy isn't actually the hero who dies from the Great Prophecy. That works way better than the weird half explained ancient love magic/master of death thing that lets Harry come back to life in Deathly Hallows.

Important to note, Dumbledore did point out the importance of free will, that Harry could very well choose to ignore the prophecy, insisted many before him did not come true, that the only reason Harry will fulfil the prophecy is because he, as a person, can't NOT fulfil it. So... in other words, as Dumbledore so wisely stated: "You're setting too much store by the prophecy."

facts i dont have anything to add except that also the world expands into other mythologys

Harry is an unreliable narrator as well. It's third person limited point of view, but we see 99% of the series from his point of view and are lead gently down the garden path several times, until both Harry and the reader get hit by a realisation/news.

@@lopiklati The Kane Chronicles, Magnus Chase and The Gods of Asgard, Heroes of Olympus, Trials of Apollo and Rick Riordan Presents right? It just so cool to see how much this universe has grown and expand in the last few years, especially with Rick Riordan Presents! Edit: I just learned that all of the books from Rick Riordan Presents: are not canon to the Percy Jackson universe, which sucks but I'm still going to eventually pick them up to read.

Percy Jackson was always the Chosen One. When Thalia was mere hours away from turning 16, the Great Prophecy was nowhere close to coming true. Kronos wasn’t revived and Luke wasn’t ready to sacrifice himself, and Morpheus wasn’t ready to set the world to sleep. That alone proves that it was always Percy, if the name of the series didn’t prove it already. Furthermore, Harry Potter had much more emotional depth and symbolism. Harry felt loss over his years at Hogwarts and struggled with things like never knowing his parents and with dealing with his fame. Percy often glossed over his own struggles at the end of each book or used humor to avoid really delving into it. I just can’t take that as seriously tbh. Finally, Harry Potter had many more plot-contributing characters. How many Percy Jackson characters actually contributed to the plot? There was Percy, Annabeth, Grover, Tyson (sorta), Nico, and Luke. Nobody else really did all that much to aid in the overall conflict, and none of the side characters really got many achievements or scenes of their own. Contrast that with Harry Potter, which had characters like Luna speaking about loss and individuality, characters like Neville growing from insecurity to courage, others like Narcissa Malfoy choosing love over hate, and Severus Snape acting as a double agent in the entire series’ plot. Harry Potter is just superior all around. I love Percy Jackson, but the writing just doesn’t have nearly as much thought out into it.

@@Doomzdeh but thalia comes back. that's the whole point. thalia comes back and, even after she enters the hunters of artemis, we're never really sure if the 16 years is 16 years of life experience or 16 years physically. we're introduced to bianca and nico and neither of the hades kids really know their age. they assume they're around 14 and 10, but it's not until battle of the labyrinth that we get confirmation that they really are that age. percy used humor as a self defense mechanism and (those who use humor as well) could tell just how much he was suffering. he had no time to grieve, he's tired, and it's not until hoo where we see just how much it affects him outwardly. in hoo, he's described as having haunted eyes and he's overly afraid that everyone will die just like how so many died in the titan war. also, percy's an unreliable narrator, we know this and we see it countless times, because he's a teenager and he acts like one. percy jackson as a story also delves a lot into the feeling of trying so hard but never being able to achieve what you want. percy always wanted to be normal, to have good grades and to make his mom proud, but his adhd and dyslexia made it way too hard to function normally. annabeth wanted to be remembered and to be someone's first choice because she never was and, in a lot of cases, never will be (e.g. luke, her dad, thalia, etc.). there are many scenes in percy jackson where characters get their individuality. grover getting his life's dream (finding pan), but having to convince all of the other satyrs that pan is dead and he isn't coming back, clarisse learning that empathy and personal relationships don't make you any less of a warrior (silena, chris, even her respect for percy counts for this), etc. honestly, you really can't judge percy jackson as a series without reading heroes of olympus because they're basically the same story, the division was to be able to change the first person pov to multiple third person povs. this gets me to the last point: luke. voldemort was a shit villain and you can't deny it. what makes a good villain? a villain you can sympathize with and that seems human. voldemort had "reasons", but none of those are really understandable. it feels like there's just black/white in hp, while percy jackson and hoo delve into the grey area. luke did some horrible things and he planned the genocide of his own kind, but he was right to a certain point. the gods were never good parents and it's hard to give your entire life to someone who you know will never give two shits about you. that's why luke made such a good villain, because he made the protagonist doubt and reflect. i tried to just use more objective points but honestly harry potter as a narrator felt boring and very 2d, percy felt more flawed and more realistic. and rr's writing style is superior to jkr's.

true

Don’t have anything against his portrayal seems like an Andrew Garfield situation to me

Yes

Nah honestly they should’ve just used the book art of the characters. But between Walker and Logan Walker is definitely the better choice.

​@@isaacmartinez2359I agree. I feel bad for him. I actually liked his performance as Percy. He just so happened to be stuck in a god awful movie

He's still 16

@@milklord_ no there’s another series where he’s 18 and he goes to college during it. And a spin off series where it’s mentioned how he’s doing in college. It’s called Heroes Of Olympus and the spin off is Trials Of Apollo

@@marvelgeekie9897 in trials of Apollo he's still a sophomore

@@milklord_ No he’s 18 google it.

@@milklord_No, it's explicitly said that he is in New Rome ready to start college in the tower of Nero (the last book of the trials of Apollo). Also ToN is settled a year after hoo, in which annabeth turns 17 (and her b day is in july while Percy's in August)

I u deter and your points, but to say percy has been through WAY more than Harry is purely false. Harry’s parents were murdered, he was raised by a horrible family surrounded by hate and distain. He was thrown into a world of which he had no knowledge of and was found to be incredibly famous and at some pointy was downright bullied in school, both muggle world and at Hogwarts. He fights Voldemort twice and wins as a 11/12 year old. He went through so much emotional trama in the 3rd book, such as with sirius being his parents murderer and his godfather as well as his struggles with the dementors, where he relived his worst moments. Even more in the 4th book watching cedric die and being bullied by half the school for being a champion. The 5th book was true emotional trauma. Drama with cho, his visions of Voldemort, etc. I could go on but i’m too lazy to, i just wanted to make a point.

@@timatillo7801Harry's never been through literal hell before, and I agree that Harry has lost many people in his life, but Percy suffered more losses. He was forced to endure a horrible stepfather as he beat his mother behind closed doors from a young age. He held the weight of the sky and endured the curses of various foes from previous books in tartarus. I'm saying that Percy has way more physical and emotional damage compared to Harry. Not to mention, the prophecy supposedly said that he was about to die, and he went though a lot of pain during both wars, both mental and physical. Also, its not I u deter, its I deter you. Percy was also thrown into a world and learnt the harsh reality that the gods are all assholes

@@tanzenuanchorgreenps7864 i can agree that physically percy has agriablly been through more but emotionally? Loss of his parents, fred, dumbledore, lupin, serious, snape, colin, dean, tonks had to be way then the friends percy lost that he wasn’t nearly as close with. Also it is true percy had a bad childhood, but he still made friends, harry had no friends because of dudley and was bullied by his own family. their childhoods and emotionally trauma are not even comparable.

Silena, Beckendorf, Luke, Jason, Dakota, etc.@@timatillo7801 Also u spelled Sirius wrong lol

@@timatillo7801harry was literally adopted by another family that fully loves him (the weasley), he was supported by ron and hermione constantly. Annabeth accused percy of being a coward one time, then was betrayed by nico, then lost beckendorf who is like one of the few ones that percy actually admired only to find out his death was caused by beckendorf’s girlfriend because of luke’s manipulation. I’m sorry but percy physical and emotional stress just for the 4th and 5th book already surpassed harry’s stress for at least 1-5th books

Probably because Percy addressed the main issue that caused the war in the first place whereas Harry did not and there was no logical resolution to it other than violence or convicting the other side to Azkaban

Yeah, I think it’s because percy’s and jason’s request doesn’t really solve the issue of the problems in HoO. In PJO the unclaimed demigods rebelled because they weren’t claimed or they didn’t have any cabins so percy started to fix the issue by building new cabins and request minimum of 12 year old claiming. But the main problems in HoO can be summarized in two. First is the gods sudden silenced without anything to give warning or help to the demigods about incoming threats, and second is the divide between roman and greek and yet not one of the request from the seven actually addresses this issue and just give more power to the gods which is kinda the reason why a lot of people don’t like blood of olympus

Later books Harry just kinda bogged the series down for me. Like, I get that he's going through a lot and yes adhere are plenty of 15 year olds who are like that, but he just remained angsty through the while books leaving the mood lightening to Fred, George and Luna. He just didn't seem to have any moments of joy. And it was exhausting.

I like that riordan didnt feel to use the everbody dies exuse and well that what made hp boring to me the same hook every time

i ain't reading all that shit

A new series with Percy as the main character is coming out soon. The first book "Chalice of The Gods" is releasing some time this month.

@@gayfrog3272 Thank you for sharing this! I had no idea! I went to get the book immediatelz

@@reading1713 np man.

Honestly, I got more emotional at the ending of Harry Potter

@@anonperson3972 siiick. Read the new Percy Jackson book!🔥🔥🔥🔥

TL;DR: Basically HoO shows us that from Percy's perspective he is a goof who gets very lucky but from everyone else's perspective including some gods and excluding Piper (cuz she got insecure about her boyfriend) Percy is practically a god, an assurance of definite victory and someone not to be messed with lest you incur his wrath and spite. Also the added perspectives in HoO add so much to Percy as a character. In The Lost Hero, Percy and his previous adventures become sort of a myth to the three main characters of that book and we see the beginnings of how much Percy undersells himself when he is narrating to us. The next book SoN confirms that Percy sells himself way too short starting with his narration of his solo adventures with amnesia in which he is basically calling himself a bumbling buffoon, followed directly by Hazel's PoV in which she mistakes Percy for a god which is subsequently followed by him single handedly humiliating two Roman cohorts in their version of capture the flag which iirc leads directly to him throwing hands with Mars on sight surprising everyone there including Mars himself who I am pretty sure implies he respects Percy for it. The entire book is basically just Hazel and Frank being flabbergasted by Percy and how strategic and powerful he is as well as Percy being a mentor to both of them, all of which culminates in both Percy single handedly taking down an undead roman legion and basically humiliating one of the giants by himself while using a head as a weapon. Before this book we already know how good a leader and how powerful Percy is but during this book and the way he is described by others you realize that the guy is way beyond simply being a good leader or simply being powerful, he is the example to follow for modern demigods. Then there is HoH, my personal favorite in both series because it give us Percy from Annabeth's perspective and it is from her perspective that we explore his darker sides. We know that Percy is pretty cruel to his enemies (he helped petrify Gabe at 12 after all) but from her perspective we get to see just how cruel he can be and how powerful he actually is when he doesn't let his morals get in the way. He almost kills the goddess of misery with her own poison to which Annabeth is just terrified of, simply bc Percy overpowered a god, she watches him kill Arachne faster than she can see, and tank a bunch of curses for her and through all this Annabeth is just like "wtf I knew he was powerful and could be cruel but I never realized that it could be to this extent." And to me the magnum opus of Annabeth being surprised by Percy is his entire interaction with Bob, Annabeth knows Percy is very intelligent and a great tactician, she knows he undersells and underestimates himself in this regard. From Percy's perspective his interaction with Bob reads as him being nice to some weird kid and feeling somewhat bad for never visiting even though Bob considers him a friend. Percy attributes most of Bob's friendliness to him and Annabeth to Nico but admits to some strategic manipulation of his part during the book. Not enough to seem bad but just enough to give us a glimpse into Percy's manipulation. Then it switches into Annabeth's PoV in which she is realizing Percy is playing Bob like a fiddle in a very strategic way, she admits that she knew Percy was good but she hadn't realized he was this good, then it all culminates in Percy perfectly and strategically manipulate Bob into killing his brother. Annabeth is terrified by this even more so that it was so natural to Percy and that he more than likely didn't notice he did it. It's just so surprising to see Percy characterized in such a terrifying and awe inspiring way through Annabeth who is his closest friend and one of his oldest. This adds so much depth to Percy for both the audience and Annabeth while also adding so much more depth to Annabeth and the relationship between her and Percy. It also shows that the curse of Achilles wasn't what had Percy acting up during TLO and it was just a darker part of his personality that was showing through thanks to said curse. HoO and the subsequent series show just how much Percy is him for everyone else but himself, from his PoV he's an idiot who gets lucky some of the time, from the PoV of everyone else including most gods Percy is already a myth who if he joins the battle victory is all but assured no matter what is thrown at you. If you want something done and you want it done right you call on Percy. I seriously wonder if after all the havoc Percy and Annabeth caused in Tartarus the monsters tell stories about how dangerous Percy and Annabeth are and that Gods forbid you injure the blonde daughter of Athena in front of the son of Poseidon cuz if you thought they were dangerous together your in for a new one once the green eyed dark haired one finds out you injured the blonde and vice versa, specially after the curse stuff and Achlys stuff.

@@ricremricrem2221 So cool! I enjoyed reading your comment so much and I love your take on Percy and Annabeth. Percy is literally so powerful and I must admit, I was taken back by all the admiration and intimidation from other characters in HoO. That series really showed how powerful Percy really is.

I really agree that the first chapter of hp is boring. Thats what made me procrastinate starting the books. Once i got past the first chapter hp is great..

@@ricremricrem2221 uhm....

​@ricremricrem2221 great sumerize, u opened my eyes to some new points on percy and its my favorite book serise ever

I also prefer percy and, percy has more books dedicated to him then harry. PJO and HOO

@@shantanupandey9663 And don't forget the new PJO book that Rick is making right now.

@@gabblebabbles2017CTG, right? Based on will and nico but I don’t know if percy and annabeth are in college in it, since CTG has been said to take place before TOA Ctg = Chalice (of) The gods, TOA = trials of appolo

@@Harvs0TSATS is will and Nico, CTG is Percy Annabeth and (I think) grover Edit: Reading CTG now, and it’s good, and I can confirm my previous statement

@@Jedidaily whats TSATS again?

also he is shown to move INSANELY fast and blood bend sooooo in a fight Harry is fucked

​@@Raine.in.love.Wait! When did the bloodbend happen?

@@CaptainvonDore it never actually happened in the books (correct me if i'm wrong but I'm very sure it has never happened) but (huge spoiler alert) in the House of Hades when Percy and Annabeth are in Tartarus and they encounter the goddess Akhlys (I think she's like the goddess of misery or poison, I don't really remember) Percy uses Akhlys's poison against her since it's liquid and he was able to manipulate it. From this fact fans started the headcanon of him being able to bloodbend which, considering what he did in Tartarus, I personally think it's quite possible but, since in canon Annabeth was pretty terrified of him using his powers like that, we're probably never going to actually read about it more

@@camillacesana4143ok. I remember that scene.

@@CaptainvonDore well in tartarus with acheleus (however u write her name) he proved he can control things that arent pure water (the poison) hence he could bloodbend but doesnt bc it scares the shit out of annabeth

I agree with you

I remember screeching with happiness when Percy appeared in Son of Neptune. I was even happy when he wasn´t the main character in some books. Never screeched like a happy banshee at Harry though.

i also got excited at the end of magnus chase 2 at the end when anabeth tels him he should train with percy@@oceanmythjormundgandr3891

Yep! And honestly, if Harry and Percy would both call me to fight with them and I'd had to choose which war I would help, I'd choose Percy without second thought. I belong so much better in Camp Half-Blood than in Hogwarts, not only the f**king gendered rooms but because my difficulties with study. Not to mention I grew to love Harry Potter in time as Dad read them when I was around 7. And when I got first Percy Jackson book, I was around 15 and I got hooked up by reading the first page. It's been ages and I appreciate Percy Jackson and uncle Rick so much better than, well, you know. 😅

And the Blood of Olympus scene, when Reyna lead CHB, but Percy just yelled something like let’s fight stuff! And the whole camp went wilddd He wasn’t even there for about one or two years (his disappearance at the beginning of HOO and then the whole Argo journey) Percy didn’t need a prophecy, he earned the camp’s respect as a true leader, a war veteran, a living legend and a friend

I'd totally follow Harry Potter in a war, if he wasn't the chosen, because I know he'd try everything to bring me back safely. Mind you, I hope I neve rhave to follow anyone into a war.

Harry being the chosen one has got nothing to do with his leadership and bravery in a war lol

He was the only option for chosen one. It was always him. He’s the titular character; it was pretty obvious. Add in the fact that, in Titan’s Curse, as Thalia was mere hours away from turning 16, the Great Prophecy was nowhere near coming true. Kronos wasn’t revived, Luke wasn’t ready to sacrifice himself, Luke and Kronos weren’t bonded for this sacrifice to happen, and Morpheus hadn’t even been recruited by the Titans to put the world to sleep. Thalia should have been a viable option for the prophecy by your logic, but she clearly wasn’t. That proves it always referred to Percy, and the issue was that nobody knew that until it actually happened.

@@Doomzdeh tho that is true for us, the prophecy is- “Olympus to PRESERVE OR RAZE” Him saving everyone wasn’t the only option, they believed in him to do it. And while in Harry’s prophecy there was an option for Voldemort to win, he’d already beaten him once. And as you can likely tell, I’m biased, so probably not the best person to judge who’s better, because who’s better mostly depends on the person judging them.

New series with Percy as the main character coming soon, first book comes out his month.

What do you mean by percy doesn’t get overshadowed??? He hella got overshadowed by other people a lot. Like the only thing that percy wasn’t overshadowed or pushed to the side is in tartarus and that’s because in the pit there’s only annabeth and him

@@merlinrecon7528I’m reading that book right now. It’s so good

Same, I really like the Magnus Chase books that follow Annabeth's cousin and the norse gods and I also read the crossover with the Kane Chronicles. So while other people might feel like that world has no more than what Percy and crew provide I had a lot of fun with the other series Rick has written outside of that bit still in the world.

​@@merlinrecon7528How is he overshadowed? On Son of Neptune Hazel literally confuses him with a GOD! And the book is literally named after him. On House of Hades he's on Tartarus, defeats a godess there and everything... He's still is THE goat

aint know one showing hate and no onwe should this is a friendly space for debate not mass murder,depression and / or war(i just realized i sound mean but i am too lazy to change it so im freindly )

I agree, especially with Jason's death, Rick writes really clearly how it affected the others, especially Apollo, and how it's continuing to affect them, even in later books like The Sun and The Star

I agree! I feel as though the deaths in percy jackson don't have as much of an effect on the readers and even on other characters. It's been shown that Greek demigods don't generally live til an adult age, so much so that Percy sees the Romans thriving and having multigenerational families, he is shocked, even without any memory. This definitely tones down deaths, also we don't really see how it affects other characters because theyre kinda used to it. Everyone just cries or looks sad then moves on. The scenes someone gets frustrated or tired and does a cool power move, it's not usally about the death of anyone, more so the overall affect of how dangerous or scary or traumatic some event was/is (eg. Nico banishing Bruce, Percy destroying a glacier etc) Not sure exactly what it's like with the harry potter universe as I have only read some of the books and no movies but have seen loads of movie clips and scenes and people talking about it. Definitely seems like the deaths in harry potter are more significant though

I feel like driving the story is a point to a good protagonist, honestly, though reactionary protags can work fine. I'd say Percy is more active than Harry in that regard.

I think the Wizarding World being more developed isn't really a good thing. The worldbuilding kinda makes too little sense. The number of wizards change drastically depending on your point of reference, the locations and number of wizarding schools are unrealistic (there should be several schools in India and China rather than having one school in Japan for Asia) and what is the point of taking a train to Hogwarts when you can use floo powder to travel most of the distance? These are just the holes in worldbuilding, I don't remember enough of the plot to talk about that. Percy Jackson is able to rationalise the secrecy of the magical world with the fact that mortals' minds will rationalise everything magical they see to fit their mundane normal. For Harry Potter, it's established muggles can see magic so how haven't they been found out yet? There are so many people, they're bound to be exposed.

@@mastertofu I agree to some extent, but I also think that in the Wizarding World's case, especially in the earlier books, it's supposed to not make much logical sense. I mean, the money makes literally no sense. 29 knuts to a sickle and 17 sickles to a galleon. That's just part of the whimsical nature of the Wizarding World, so I can't fault the story for a deliberate creative descision. As for why Muggles don't know about magic, there's a well established department in the Ministry of Magic that's sole purpose is to deal with Muggles who saw something the shouldn't have, as well as the International Statute of Secrecy that every magical community is covered by, so there is at least some level of explanation to that.

⁠​⁠@@mastertofuyou saying the wizardry world is unrealistic is crazy since that kinda the whole point throughout the whole books. The whole world is supposed to be whimsical and goofy it’s magic not science so I don’t understand the whole it doesn’t make sense thing when that’s literally the whole theme of the series. It’s main drive was to make the world feel magical and wacky so I don’t know how you can be mad at something that was marketed to be that way. That’s like me reading a science fiction book and getting mad that there’s advance technology and a lot of logic.

Oh why do you think Ron was better written?

I just found that the character of grover seemed very one dimensional in the first series, and a lot of his character development felt forced, also more adjusting yo new information then personal growth, you know, where as ron felt slightly more realistic to me. Not to look down on grover at all of course, I think it was more that he suffered from being an all right character surrounded by great ones.

honeslty i think Ron kinda sucks... mmuch of his character is focused on his insecurites and feeling inferior to all his brothers and best friends but its not like he really makes an effort, his character arc just kinda ends with him "getting the girl" (as if hermione is some type of trophy). He doesnt do anything to prove himself nor does he ever try to, he just kind a sulks about other people getting what he wants without ever acknowledging the work others put in that he simply doesn't.

I feel that that's the one part where PJO lacks. He really doesn't get much time to relax and get more fluffy story bits in, while Harry has a whole year to add parts like that. Rick Riordan does seem like he's trying to fix that with the new book though.

Order of the Phoenix was my favorite HP book. I could just relate to Harry Potter a lot, I’ve never related to fantasy characters who just get up and go after tree t bad things happen like it’s no big deal, Harry Potter felt more real to me, he had real PTSD and grieved.

Also I don't see a large portion of the fanbase shipping Harry & Ginny(You'll 100% see a lot more Harry & Draco than anything) meanwhile in the PJO fandom it seems like if you don't ship Percy and Annabeth you'll be questioned strongly. This seems to be the case of a lot of the PJO ships, the ones in the books is the one you'll like and want to ship. While in HP you won't get that a lot, most of the time people prefer to make up their own ships with the characters and don't care for the ones that are cannon. So PJO wins in the romance department, 100%!

​@@winter_fox4767I think a big reason for that is because rick riordan commits to romances in his stories. So when characters end up together, it diesn't feel like it somehow happened, it feels like a nice step in their common story. Meanwhile in harry potter things kinda just happen. The only romance harry had was the failed one with cho and then he just realizes he loves ginny and they almost instantly become a couple. I don't remember exactly how it happened for ron and hermione, but it also felt the same. Because we lack a proper romance, we don't see what the characters see in each other, so we invent other ships to create more satisfying stories

​@@docomega7862this is sooo accurate about percabeth. Their romance is definitely not an instant one. It's developed through and through and it's immensely satisfying when they finally get together

Same but I'm mostly on the Harry Potter side lol But I love both so much I don't see why the fandoms are always at war 😅

Same

Part of the strife between fandoms is PJO has been called a HP knockoff for years, which has kept people from giving the books a try and may have had a hand in the terrible movie adaptation, so they lash out at the HP fandom as a response. Now yes both are pretty similar, without going over all of them I just lost that both main characters have the same hair, eyes, and skin color. But a lot of the comparisons are surface level, both have a lot of stuff different about them, like narration styles, plot etc. Both series have their own merit, charm and humor. The biggest issue came with the movies. The movie directors clearly saw PJO as a HP knockoff and clearly didn't have hopes in sequels, so they went out of their way to try to make it less like HP as much as possible which made the movie very different from the books and no one in the fandom liked it, and when they did get a sequel it was leagues worse. This kept new readers away from the books and studios away from rebooting the movies or giving it a TV show for years (Or animated movie/show. I personally would've preferred that). I get the PJO frustration, hell I feel the same but I don't agree with attacking fans of a different fandom who had no part in this nor power in it. I also don't agree with HP fans insulting PJO fans, if you don't like the series fine, just leave the fans out of it.

@@patrickmcguire7896 As a PJO fan, what do they expect, Rick Riordan said himself that he got some inspiration from Harry Potter *and* J.K. Rowling and Rick Riordan both use mythology as an inspiration as well, of COURSE there's gonna be similarities, doesn't mean its an outright copy. There's so many differences between the two in character personality, setting, plot, writing style, and a lot more. Like it would be fun if HP and PJO fans stopped fighting so we could band together to make one giant fandom, srsly imagine how fun that would be.

It's definitely ALL from the PJ side. It's envy. They wish PJ was as relevant as HP but it isn't so they're always a bit sensitive about it. PJ fans always bring up HP, but I never see HP fans bring up PJ

Rick made a sequel series then?

​@@VelaiciaCreatorhe's talking about the heroes of Olympics, when we see him from other pov and realise he undersells him self and specifically house of hades when we realise he can be quit qrule and a little evil to protect his freinds (his fatal flaw)

@@pixelgamerpro1597 Ooooh, def gonna have to read that, grew up with the og series and loved it.

@@VelaiciaCreatorThere's the original 5 book series (Percy Jackson and the Olympians), and then there's Heroes of Olympus (also 5 books) which features Roman AND Greek mythology. Following that, there's the Trials of Apollo (5 books) where Apollo is the main character and Percy is only in the background. Rick also wrote a standalone book about Nico Di Angelo called The Sun and the Star, and another standalone called The Chalice of the Gods - about Percy getting recommendation letters from gods to attend demigod college. Set in the same universe, there's also a series about Norse mythology (3 books), and Egyptian mythology (3 books).

@@shawtywiththesolluxpfp618 Sick! I've run low on reading material, only really had this one weekly translation of a light novel series from Japan for a bit. I could ofc just re-read my library, but I am starving for continuance or something new.

Well, we kind of do. I don't think any of us actually thought Percy was going to die until the very end considering the books were from his perspective.

We all knew that Percy would win; he’s the titular character and the obvious Child of Prophecy. In Titan’s Curse, as Thalia was hours away from turning 16, I assure you the Great Prophecy wasn’t coming true the next day. How do I know? Luke and Kronos had not linked, Kronos wasn’t revived, Luke therefore couldn’t reap his soul with the cursed blade, and Morpheus hadn’t been recruited by the Titans to put the world into an endless sleep. Ergo, Thalia was never going to be the Child of Prophecy. That proves that it always referred to Percy; the issue was that nobody could tell that from the wording alone, so they believed every option to be viable.

But we all know that reading Percy jackson was a little more enjoyable than Harry Potter

As I recall Lilly made a barrier that protected Harry with magic, but yeah, Percy Jackson books are more complex and less predictable. Though Harry Potter books are now being overhated by some fantasy fans. I think Percy is a bit better but they're very close

@@nikoloznasaridze6328 yeah although Percy jackson is just a bit more enjoyable, Harry opper is getting lots of unnecessary hate

true tho pjo fanfics all suck nohate tho cause if i tried making one it would probably cause WW3

i think its because harry poter has been around way more time and way more people have read it and to write fanfiction about percy jackson you need to be realy educated about greek mythology but in harry potter you can make up anything its magic@@aaronsadaquath7319

I agree. I prefer PJO canon, but HP fanfiction is honestly so much better

I think its better because the fandom has to pick up the slack from JKR. The HP universe is never really fleshed out, and the marauders esp aren’t. So the fandom creates their own stories that do what HP couldn’t. PJO (at least to me) does a great job of fleshing out the world and the characters, so there’s no need to create my own stories because PJO already did all of it. (I do love dark percy fics tho🤭Falling For You🔛🔝)

@@DonutsAgainstHumanity Falling for you is AMAZING and is honestly the Magnus opus of our fandom' fanfiction

Not to mention he has the capacity to create a Hurricane around him. It drains his energy but As far as I know, Harry doesn’t have any spell to control that

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In heroes of olympus he looses this, but it comes with the ‘Percy you can blood bend and poison bend’ we’ve only seen poison, but blood is closer to water than poison is so yk yk

@@Harvs0 ya but we’re only talking about the og series

@@the_idiot_eris5029 first series he clears defo. The curse of Achilles is literally what allows him to destroy so many people. I mean, if he bested hades (allbeit not at his true power and stuff but whatever) what gives harry anything to be stronger?

Facts Harry Also never trained or did anything that explored and pushed his powers unlike Percy

OF COURSE, he's funnier As if Harry isn't the sassiest person in the multiverse.

​@@sanjoykumardas4018I think percy is more sassy

@@trentintoof1465 Persassy

​@@tacocat1070This deserves a pin 😭❤️❤️

​@@sanjoykumardas4018 Percy sent Medusa's head to Olympus just because he was in a bad mood while Zeus wanted his head definitely Percy is more daring.

Lets not pretend Percy is flawless. His “fatal flaw” is loyalty, which doesn’t sound too bad until you realize that he is actually loyal to a fault🙃He would (and he has) put himself and others in danger to save someone close to him. It’s called a fatal flaw for a reason😭😭

As far as flaws go if you are a decent person, that's a flaw people are okay with.@@DonutsAgainstHumanity

It’s a lot more believable tbh than 12-year old Percy Jackson with maybe a week of sword practice defeating the literal God of War in a fight. Percy Jackson played down its villains massively and always made them relatively easy to defeat (except for Atlas, I’ll concede). It’s one of the few problems I always had with the series.

​@@Doomzdehoh god yes,that beating Ares was so stupid I was poker faced the entire time

I love PJO but this is the issue that I have with the series. They downplay the villains so much like how weak are these gods (yeah GODS) that they get their arses beaten by a 12 y/o ? (teenager in the later books) Percy feels like an OP protagonist while Harry is not that OP, he's lucky, yes, but not OP. Imagine if Harry doesn't have the "luck" (for example, getting help from other characters just in time to save himself), he would've died in the first year. Also, the villains in HP (Voldemort, death eaters, etc) feel like they really are capable to kill Harry anytime if he isn't lucky enough. Ain't no way Harry could've defeated them with a sword (or a spell in his case). Though, the villains in PJO have clearer and more relatable/reasonable motivation in my opinion.

idk why but it feels like no one talls about the underland or kane chroniceles cause both are sooo goood(btw by underland chronicles im guessing u r talking about gregor the overlander) i havents read the magic thief books but i have another series to read now so thank you

A Gregor the overlander series done right would be absolutely insane

Didn't he hold short grudges against anyone she dated? Especially after the inevitable breakups?

ok but in my opinion for me its the opposite it might be cause im biased and its been a while since i have read hp but i have read all the sequels of pjo and hp and honestly i liked the pjo sequels more even if percy wasnt even mentioned for example the kane chronicles

and then you are rewarded with a crosover in demigods and magicians@@aaronsadaquath7319

I disagree with that. The HP universe is just the wizard world (which is small too! Just Hogwarts, Diagon alley, and that one town they go to sometimes.) But PJO is not only greek/roman demi-gods but also norse demi-gods and magicians! The Gods too! Even regular mortals are interesting, because some are clear sighted. And the world isn’t limited too 3 places, they actually go all over the world. And to Olympus, the Underworld, and Tartarus. There’s so much potential in the PJO universe and its used, there’s so many interesting stories in the PJO universe that never mention Percy/mention him rarely. (Kane Chronicles, Magnus Chase, The Sun and The Star, trials of Apollo, etc.) Do you see any of that in HP? The world of HP starts and stops with Harry, the Fandom makes the world interesting, but the canon does not.

Jesus, read the first book, liked it a lot, but the moment I finished high school i soppted reading for pleasure all together, too much reading for university projects and whatnot, I lost track of the series.

To correct you, it has this effect cause the core of the wands are feathers of the same phoenix, the pet of Dumblembore, so if Harry and Voldy fight with the wands it does this I think cause they don't wanna "hurt or fight" each other but the affect is to "rewind" spells and since Voldy uses a lot the death spell and doesn't cast magic in a long time, the "ghosts" of Cedric and Harry's parents are there. I don't like this and some other moments in the saga 'cause luck is used so much in these parts like this one

You clearly haven’t read the Harry Potter books in a long time; Harry makes tons of jokes in them. He just doesn’t do it at literally every stage of a chapter like Percy does; he allows the emotions of a scene to run their course every now and then. Not to say I don’t like Percy Jackson; I just find the humor to be too much like Marvel Humor. Nothing can ever be serious because Percy is always comparing them to ridiculous things in his head or saying some reference. The issue is less present in the later books, but it’s still kinda there.

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@@DoomzdehPercy Jackson need the humor to function imo, with the constant near death stuff and all kinds of other pretty sad things going on, it would just be quite depressing if the chapters went in the same style that Harry potters did

I mean your not wrong 😂

Oh, yeah Harry DEFINITELY taught highly advanced kids Defense while just knowing three spells. And seriously, what the heck does no.3 have to do with any of this!?

I find it so odd how he's supposedly super powerful yet jk did nothing but give anything super big to other characters (Hermione, Dumbledore etc) yeah don't make him OP but any development harry had ability wise was immediately backtracked and disregarded.

I admit 5th book he had a wide arsenal of spells but in the seventh book it was only explelliarmas

Harry faces The Dark Lord alone with a broken leg. But suuuuure.

Percy Jackson, and heroes of Olympus should be read as one series. However the other books like magnus chase, the red pyramid, and trials of Apollo aren’t worth reading and detract from the original story in my opinion.

@@mrgandolf5349 I really only consider trials of Apollo as a “good” continuation of the characters from ‘Percy Jackson’ and ‘heroes of Olympus’. However I think these 2 series are perfect without it and I do agree that it detracts from the overall story. The others just have fun cameos with the characters from these series, so I don’t include them at all.

Not to be mean but are Harry selfish

@@Skilbred_M i was saying percy is more selfless. not that harry sn't just that oercy is more

@@aniruby-chb_ ok my bad

the hill part reminds me of thalia tho so tip do not turn into a pine tree

it just stuck and grew with me, while HP was done and forgotten 👀 (i’m only talking about the books and my personal opinions)

I read Harry Potter first and I loved the books but reading Percy Jackson IN MY OPINION was much more interesting and fun. I thought the characters were better and I liked the amount of books and even the companion novels gave great stories and developed the characters more. Some side stories even play an important part of the main plot and the Kane Chronicles and Magnus Chase series were also AMAZING. I understand your point of view as well because I also enjoyed the Harry Potter series.

I love both series and all, but my problem with Harry was how isolated he was. Apart from Ron and Hermione, Harry didn't really have any friends. The rest of the Weasley's we're just like your friend's siblings, no actual bonds, Luna wasn't really close like that, and that's it. At least with Percy, we see what more relationships, especially in HOO with the 7 staying friends

Percy meets a lot of characters in the Heroes of Olympus, I mean a lot of them.

personally, i couldn't get into harry potter. it was a struggle to get into book 2 and 3 and i stopped halfway into book 3 because i was so bored. with percy, i just devoured that series. it made me fall in love with reading. i just couldn't get into harry potter

i think its just a book not for people who want action i agree with you@@arabbarbiedoll

Where’s Alex Rider from?

Where’s Alex Rider from?

@@Wonderlandish alex rider's from the Alex Rider book series by Andrew (or is Alan?) Horowitz. Check only

Everybody is entitled towards their own opinion but doesn't Percy also have all these factors? Just curious.

I don’t like it but I agree he is a jerk he doesn’t defend people like Percy does like with hermoine Percy never would allow Ron to Say what he said about her not snape and with fleur how Ginny and Molly treated her Harry said nothing know not Percy . I feel dumbledore quite of doing what’s right and what’s easy applies to them

Facts Percy is discovering more about himself and powers as the books continue Harry only ever used on spell I feel Harry should used the three unforgivable more for us to see them used in a neutral manner like a friend is dying in agony killing curse he doesn’t suffer he’s paralyzed the pain curse to wake up His body and he’s about to commit suicide the mind curse to stop it

There is going to be one on Netflix

There are 7 (well, 10, kinda) main characts in hoo and ye percy is one

I loved Kane Chronicles! It's so underrated!

I love those,including the Hard Magic.