I’m saying

Cuz they are unique and different of course

Wait isn't that how Prince got his "muse" tho?

lol I know it’s not quite the same but that’s lowkey what happened in Priscilla

So they can go down like P Diddy and R Kelly 😭

rpf (real person fic) has been taboo in many, many circles for a long time. it's like keep that shit on your hard drive lol

I agree ☝️

Yeah fanfiction is at its best when it's written about already fictional characters

@@rosecoloredbby agreed

To be fair the ones writing them were also teenagers.

I agree that adults should refrain from writing self insert rpf about teenaged celebrities, but I think the largest group of people writing 1D fic was most likely girls 11-18 tbh, which is a lot less creepy and a lot more just teens fantasizing. I think it’s the publishing houses choosing to publish and adapt this stuff and therefor push it to a wider audience rather than make them search it out themselves that’s more cringe

@@yoogrldude I do agree that we should be holding the publishing houses accountable.

Anna Todd was 25 when she wrote after on wattpad too

And then these were OLDER women who were writing these stories😭✋🏼

truly like there is so much great written fanfiction and everybody who does not read fanfic thinks its all after and 50 shades

@@silergal9994 Exactly! Fanfiction is so much more than that!

Same here! I've read a bunch of fanfics over the years where I'm so impressed that I wished that they were hired by Hollywood studios to adapt them into films and television. However, Hollywood always greenlights the smut fics.🤦🏼‍♀️😩

This. So many amazing twilight fanfictions and 50 shades is what we get...

yeah! there's so many fanfictions that i read that are really good, with full plots and character development

i had no idea about caroline flack's relationship with him when we was 17. now dont get me wrong, sadly a lot of celebs do not give a fuck about that sort of thing even with genders reversed. but surely enough folk would rightfully point out how predatory that is if it were a man in his 30's chasing a teenage girl. i hate this double standard of it somehow not being an issue, going as far to say the boys are lucky, when they have fully grown women going after them. i'm 32 right now and the thought of dating someone that young makes me sick to my stomach! i will never forgive these kinds of women who sexualise teenage boys and clump together in fandoms and justify this behaviour, it's fucking vile regardless if it's coming from women.

@@NikiPaprika I so agree! I think age gap relationships only start getting to be safe/okay when both people's brains are fully developed when they meet...not so okay when it's a teenager (who could have 5 or more years to go on brain development) and anyone who has been aware of themselves and their place in the world for quite some time

@@sarahwatts7152 absolutely. age gaps especially dont really mean much once you're into your late twenties/thirties onwards and are dating someone older. but seeing some people really toe the line with "jailbait", only dating 18 year olds just to avoid legal ramifications without questioning why you're still going after someone who is still technically a teen is very disturbing. it's also much easier for older peoole to groom teens because they dont have the life experience that the older adults do. thats when age gaps become bad when one is still that young.

@@NikiPaprika That's how you know those people are predators cus once you're over the age of 25, anyone younger than 21 is like babysitting conversationally, let alone romantically. There'd be so little things to have common unless the goal is to take advantage of them for gross, selfish reasons.

Anna was 24 and harry was 19 when she wrote after, and harry was treated as a completely different character (even older) in the books, his face was probably the only thing that was borrowed, fan fictions and erotica are artistic expressions, and of course they can get problematic, but fiction about already popular people is neither uncommon nor inherently problematic, so stop shitting your pants over something that's not even an issue. The world isn't black and white, gender reversal of a situation doesn't work that way and the fanfic isn't inherently problematic, it's just a steamy fantasy. @@NikiPaprika

thank you! i've been tormenting my friends with this info a lot recently

hobama for life

Hobama is real❤

realll bc he’s so nice how can he play a toxic guy

as a person, who were sexualized as a teenager, this is a worst scenario ever!

literally. if you look up how "fans" destroyed FKA Twigs and Robert Pattinson's relationship it's pretty sad :(

@@K.C-2049I’m pretty sure he wasn’t very good to her

Right!? That was so disgusting I had to hold the phone away from me.

Nah it's diff now, harry styles quite literally dominated fanfictions and wattpad back then. While yes fanfics are still a huge thing today but everyone's in their own corner, there isn't any one "it-boy" who's just taken over (thank god cuz it was prob horrible for him) so it's disappointing but not surprising that it had this much impact even in the film industry and i honestly don't see it happening again. Like yes we're aware he's one of the most consistently successful artists of our age considering he's been in the spotlight 14 years and is still top 5 biggest artists today but it's actually insane to just witness the impact he had on many aspects of popculture. I am curious to see if it'd happen with more fanfics like bts tho, if it does then that means this really opened the gates of fanfic to films and idk how i feel about that lol.

There will eventually be another It Boy to the level of Harry Styles, but it usually takes awhile for that to happen.

@@jeremyudoh ya there'll def be someone as successful at some point i was only talking in the context of fanfics, and the reason i say that is cuz people are too divided now and there's too many contrarians and people who refuse to like something simply cuz it's popular unlike back in the days (even tho it already started happening in the 2010s but it's much worse now, harry taking over fanfic era was just before that) so it's harder for one thing to just be loved by most people today which is one of the reasons there prob won't be someone as big as michael jackson again cuz that many people loving someone at the same time is just impossible cuz everyone's trying so hard not to be basic, if i was to simplify the reason lol.

Mutual Help will be one of them lmao

I hope to God not. One of my biggest embarrassments in life is how obsessed I was with bts fanfiction as a teenager. I eventually got bored of it but now that I’m in my 20s I look back at the stuff I was reading in horror. I respect them all too much now to even consider reading it again. I just hope that none of them have come across it.

i went through my teens before 1dr was even a thing. hell im only watching this video because im subscribed and it piqued my curiosity, i actually have no idea about the ins and outs of the band rivalries or anything like that, i just that i know of RPF being a problem. when i was a teen i was enjoying silly anime shows and making OCs with my friends. not whatever... bandoms were doing about real life people.

i was a larry for a long time. it was a lot of lgbt people myself included and it was presented to us by others in the fandom as them being victims and how we needed to show solidarity and support. if you were lgbt and didn't support them or buy into all the conspiracies you could be sent hate comments telling you you weren't really lgbt and equating you to being hateful. it was a nightmare and one of the reasons i was so scared to step out away from it. it was presented to us as our "duty" almost

@@promisemochi Oh, for sure there were many LGBT+ members, but I also had interacted with quite a lot of straight shippers back in the day. And even though there were queer people in these fandoms, they were never as aggressive, at least I had never interacted with THAT aggressive shipper of gay couples that are queer themselves, in various fandoms btw, not only Larry. Yes, some were problematic and queer, but attacking people outside of the fandom, bc of a meme or something (bc I was never a big 1D fan, but I was a chronically online teen😂), wasn't as common, at least in my experience. It is similar to this weird and unsettling phenomenon where many heavily problematic fanfics with teens were written by fully grown adults. Edit: Many times shipping gay (mostly men) couples, for young girls, is a form of coping as well. If the guy they find attractive is gay, then the reason they cannot be in a relationship with them is not the fact that they don't know them personally, or the age gap, or bc of their outer appearance, but because of something they cannot change: their sexuality.

@@CompanyOfTheCat very good points!! you bring up a lot of good things. i was very active in the fandom and had a different side of it on tumblr for example than others in other parts. another point i would like to tack on is back in the day during this time girls were so shamed if they saw their celebrity as hot or sexy. it was seen as objectifying to say "oh he's so hot!" a lot of young women in turn would use these ships to "safely" fantasize without being shamed. it removed themselves from the equation in a way.

@@promisemochi "a lot of young women in turn would use these ships to "safely" fantasize without being shamed." Also very true!

And also if the case was giving them a safe space, why in the world do larrys STILL insist they are toguether

Wow, that's really nasty of your classmate. Hope you and your gf are doing well though

The book is FAR from a romcom.

@@ceebeegeebeeexactly. The book is absolutely messed up, creepy and just plain weird.

LMAO BYE

When I first got into BTS a few years ago.. like 2017 think, cause that's when they won the bbmas, I believe.. anyway, I was a teenager in high school and found out about fanfics. I read a few about most of the members here on yt.. but I mostly read about Jungkook. I never liked anything too explicit though. As I was a minor, I couldn't really read them anyway cause it wasn't allowed. But there were some cases where the authors were able to sneak past the restrictions and I was able to read ALL of it. Not because I wanted to, but I was so far into the stories already that I felt I had to read it so I wouldn't miss anything. I mostly liked the stories that felt realistic.. well, not sci-fi or fantasy. Always a love-story, but with drama and suspense. Usually JK played the stereotypical bad boy who was selfish and had never been in real love until my character (y/n). Sometimes he plays the popular guy that every girl wants to date and every guy wants to be friends with, or a playboy who doesn't leave his bad habits behind until I walk into his life. I usually turn out to be the new girl or a long-lost friend from his childhood. Usually very kind and naive at times, but can be just as stubborn as him. Sometimes he gets into trouble.. for example, hanging out with the wrong crowd that includes dr**s and g**s, and I'm always there to watch out for him so he doesn't get hurt. He does the same for me a lot because he's not really a bad guy.. unless the author wants him to be a jack-A out of the blue to make my character storm off in tears.. which turns out to be for a reason because he doesn't want to see me get hurt by others who try to get to me because of him. I always loved these storylines.. Not because they were about JK, that doesn't really do anything for me.. but I just loved how the authors wrote such beautiful stories that made me feel so many emotions. I felt so many emotions for characters who aren't real. Most that I liked are gone now, either because the author left yt or it got deleted. There were a few times explicit scenes appeared and I always cringed.. like wth? Why is it important? The authors usually did it to make it seem more mature and not for kids, but really? I didn't need all those details about the sheets, weak knees, or whatever else they came up with.. like please, they could've just said we did it and move on. How simple is that? I felt so awkward even looking at pictures of him after I read them. It was just so weird. The endings were worth it though, but if I could erase those scenes, I would. Now it feels like Jk is acting out. He probably knows how hyper-se**alized he is compared to the other members. So instead of fighting it, he decided to give them what they wanted and that cost him a lot of fans who didn't agree with his behavior. Just because he's an adult and western artists sing about their se* lives doesn't mean he should too. But if he doesn't act like a man-wh**e, people will baby him and call him cute nicknames. I understand he's trying to show the world a mature image, but se* isn't cracked up to what everyone makes it seem. If anything, adults should be responsible and not do it unless they've committed to someone. One night stands aren't good for anyone. Not that he does it, but his lyrics are so gross. Even though he possibly had barely any input since it was all in English, it still wasn't my cup of tea. And then he acts like everyone who disapproves is out to destroy his career.. like how did he get that mindset? Criticism for his actions are different than wanting to see him fail. He's very talented and has so much to offer. Taking his clothes off and singing about getting it on will only attract a minority who doesn't actually care how his choices will affect him. All the people who groomed him since he was a teenager probably feel proud. 7 and 3D felt like a teen boy rebelling against social norms cause of his raging hormones whenever he sees a hot girl.

Every now and then I come across one of them and it shocks me to my core that they still exist every time.

fanfic is fine when it's concerning fictional characters imo, but when it crosses the line into real people's lives that's where it goes off the rails.

@@K.C-2049 💯 agreed. The whole Harry Styles fanfic is wild

Most of the Renaissance was just Bible fanfic. But also, specifically Dante's Divine Comedy is Bible fanfic, and it was so popular that it is responsible for most of the world's idea of what Heaven and Hell look like to this day. Fanfic is eternal.

i feel similarly. there are live action characters that i enjoy together as part of a relationship or whatever, but i’m always very careful about what content i consume or make regarding them because they’re still technically tied to a real life person’s image and i personally would feel uncomfortable violating that boundary with anything more than the equivalent of like a middle school romance, lol.

As someone who has written and is currently writing RPF (of Kpop idols), I truly believe you deserve major respect. Although I obviously have set boundaries considering I’m writing about real people, I can’t deny the fact that so many “fans” completely disregard that. I was completely traumatised when I stumbled upon a fanfic KZfaq video where a Kpop idol **r worded** the female lead (I was probably 13 at the time). Unfortunately, the RPF community kind of normalises lack of boundaries and they just come up with the most fucked up scenerios they can think of (they need therapy).

and she was notoriously an awful person for years lol

also idc about Hayes, he's NOT MY HARRY STYLES. He's just like such a cheap copy I'm sorry. The Tattoos look awful, the wardrobe is meh, the band could never hope to be half as great as One Direction. The least the author could have done is made the character more different than the person it was based on (not that it makes it okay). But lets recap: His name starts with H He's British He's in a 5 member boyband group He has tattoos I MEAN COME ON

THERE IS GOOD FANFICTION I SWEAR Ones that aren't based on real people but fictional character, that even actors sometimes encourage which is funny as hell. Stuff like this gives all fanfiction a bad name and makes fanfic writers all seem like horny bastards

wait voiceover from zendaya?

Yeah, I never understood writing fanfics about real people either. I’d rather read something that’s about fictional characters from an IP that I like since it’s not invasive, rather than reading about an actor or a singer that I like.

Yeah I don’t think RWRB was based on fanfic lol, the author has never said anything like that.

Contrapoints most recent video on romance pointed out it is not always about being with a bad guy, it is the fantasy of that person changing for the female main character. It is that this powerful coded person that is considered powerful by society chose the audience stand in female character out of allll the other possible other potential partners. That is not all dark romamcnes, but it does covers the appeal.

I like to think it's the whole "I can fix him" thing that is the appeal

Money

Httyd ff would a good movie though.

@@petrichor499 Well mostly you need to change a lot to say it’s original but in my head it’ll be those characters