Have the Dallas Stars taken a massive step back?? A recap of curious day in Free Agency for Dallas

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10 күн бұрын

On today's episode of Locked On Stars, we breakdown everything that went down on day one of Free Agency for the Dallas Stars. After buying out Ryan Suter and moving Chris Tanev who signed a six year deal with Toronto, the Stars had plenty of cap space to make some moves. However, those moves included right shot defensemen Matt Dumba, Illya Lubushkin and Brendan Smith on short term deals. GM Jim Nill would have loved for bigger names or talent, but was simply priced out on certain players. The Stars have glaring concerns on defense that do not feel effectively fixed by the moves yesterday and look to be a worse team today than they were a month ago. On the bright side, Dallas did ink great deals with forwards Sam Steel and Matt Duchene, plus a backup goaltender in Casey DeSmith after losing out on Scott Wedgewood who went to Nashville. It certainly is no time to panic, but the Stars will be asking a lot of players who have not had great seasons in recent memory to play big minutes next season.
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@kenmammel7748 8 күн бұрын

Now that we have 2 new D's that will dish out hits, plus Benn; and add to that, our mix of old and young offense we will go deep in the playoffs again.

@otakumusprime7745 8 күн бұрын

There's positives (Duchene and Steel staying), and immense negatives. It feels like the Stars aren't trying for this year and hoping for a cup in the future. Will they? I dunno. Feels like a second round exit.

@k92616 8 күн бұрын

What did the 113 points get us last year? Vegas and Colorado in the first two rounds? Maybe they are just looking at the playoffs in which we basically played 5 D the whole run. Not perfect but acting like D core was miles ahead of this at the beginning of last season is laughable

@Sverige23 8 күн бұрын

It will be interesting to watch. To be honest, I don't have the best feeling. Greetings from 🇩🇪 Go 🌟

@fneall68 8 күн бұрын

I’m ok , give them a chance .. new younger guys are coming up .. they made changes to go bigger , nastier

@fantsw 9 күн бұрын

Answer: Yes

@leedag5089 8 күн бұрын

I wasnt happy either but i think people keep adding tanev like he was a stars player. We started last season with nils and jani on the right side, i think objectively our right side is better today than it was at the start of last season. Dumba and iyla are better players than both and we lost a 39 year old who could only play 14 a night. Sean walker is the same age as dumba and has been a plus player only once in his career, he's also less physical. Im a little confused why you guys think miro and harley will stick together. Theyre putting miro on his strong side. Miro-dumba, harley- lyubushkin, lindell- lundkvist. Thats definitely better than we started last season

@LMG-yl3wy 8 күн бұрын

Lots of time between now and the start of the season, perhaps a little patience and a few deep breaths; let's see what happens over the next few months. Thanks Joey.

@treycarmichael3605 8 күн бұрын

I wouldn't say massive step back given all the weapons we have up front, but certainly they did not replace Suter/Tanev in terms of immediate benefits. However they did add some grit and physicality. It certainly is a bad day whenever you can't reach agreement with a star player after buying out a solid player to sign him. The DeSmith signing is an upgrade. The Stars have a third of their cap tied up in 4 players. The Tanev re-sign was always a huge gamble considering the way we got him.

@jakobvarney9357 8 күн бұрын

The d core is better now then at the start of last year

@LegoGBlok 8 күн бұрын

Aaaaa ha ha haaaa haaaaaaa. You do know that Dumba and Lyubushkin are terrible d-men? take stupid penalties are not good enough skaters and their d play is horrendous. and yeah, nothing to give for offense..

@jakobvarney9357 2 күн бұрын

@@LegoGBlok dumba has never played with anyone remotely close to heiskanen he’s gonna make him better it’s the same d core minus suter dumba is better then suter and bush is roughly the same as Hak with more physicality. These guys have never played for a team as good as Dallas and defensively as sound as them

@Carrion55 8 күн бұрын

The entire problem with the Stars in their own D was lack of physicality. Losing pucks on the boards and having players too slow to skate are where Edmonton took control. I don't like signing Dumba and Boosh and Smith however different players operate better or worse in different systems. Let's also not pretend that trade windows don't exist and that they don't effect the season. Nashville had a splashy day and they will be good but you're signing stamkos who has never played outside of Tampa and Marchessault has been long with Vegas and to expect them to just light up the league is typical free agency optimism. I think we missed out on big D men like Desgshairnais but it also depends on whether the player wants to go

@AndrewBuck-bj7jj 8 күн бұрын

At the end of the day, we needed warm bodies on the back end. We had 2 people under contract after buying out Suter. I'm ok with the Dumba deal. A little pricey for a reclaimtion project, but no term. The Ilya deal is the one I really hated because of the 3rd year. He should have been a 1 yr near league minimum deal. I'm shocked that Nils resigned, I expected him to sign elsewhere after not being tendered a QO.

@user-fc1zx2vo7p 8 күн бұрын

Smith is a 7th dman who can play wing in a pinch

@PlainAndSimpL 8 күн бұрын

i think jim nill is playing the long game, signing a couple guys to try them out while we wait for theses benn and seguin contracts to run out and then make some serious moves with the extra cap space

@StephanieBeyo 8 күн бұрын

Exactly it’s all about the long game an all these defensive signings create competition

@AndrewBuck-bj7jj 8 күн бұрын

This is still a 105 point team. It can be better if Bischel is ready, which I doubt.

@brentspringer2317 9 күн бұрын

A step back? probably. MASSIVE step back? no

@dansnyder9102 8 күн бұрын

After, sleeping on it, i like what the Stars did. 3 Dmen and resigning Duchene. DeSmith is a good back up. I hated losing Tanev, but he wanted term. 6 years for a 35 yr old D,etc. I trust Jim Nill. Stars will be in the hunt again next year.

@kenmammel7748 8 күн бұрын

I agree, and they know stuff we don't see. Plus, I like steady and long, not gamble everything all for one (next) season.

@dktrox 7 күн бұрын

I think everyone is questioning the money for Lyubushkin and Dumba. If we got both with a cap hit of $4 million then this was a decent pick up. $7 million seems excessive. This smacks of understanding how thin the team has been at defense. Who knows, many thought Duchene was a mediocre signing last year. I am of the mindset this team needed more hitters. They got it. Part of the reason they came up short against Edmonton was the lack of depth and how physical Vegas and Colorado were. Do like DeSmith coming in as a back up. Nothing against Wedgewood, but he wanted more and honestly he is a $1 million AAV goalie.

@bobk.995 5 күн бұрын

Nill's best offer to Tanev was 3 years at $5M AAV. He was never going to offer more than a 3 year deal, and yet they still wasted time until the day before Free Agency on Tanev as their Plan A. That alone shows you how badly Nill misread the market. Nill whiffed on several other players before finally settling on Dumba and Lyubushkin as the best they could get for the money they had to spend. And they still overpaid, especially on Lyubushkin.

@loumnar54 8 күн бұрын

What's up with changing Wedgewood? He had better numbers than Otter this past season... Not impressed either with these non-luster acquisitions. I was and still hoping for Nick Robertson to come to Dallas as He said he wanted out from Toronto.

@PiYodTong 8 күн бұрын

Wedgewood asked too much.

@kenmammel7748 8 күн бұрын

Wedgwood is a good goalie. More dependable than Otter.

@texasblessed8270 8 күн бұрын

I don't get it. We resigned Duchane. We need the physical play from Dumba and I'm planning on Bichsel and Borque will be on the team in October. The Stars have plenty of scoring. And no way I'd give Tanev that 6yr deal

@dalionlopez9828 8 күн бұрын

I feel like next year is going to be a rebuild year. It’s going to be very tough as a fan if Jim doesn’t find a good trade for a top defenseman to get us through playoffs. Do you think the same, or is there something I’m missing? I honestly think we lose a lot of good players next year, and we’ll be stuck with a lot of young players that can’t produce at a high level.

@bubbaharrod2530 8 күн бұрын

Yes they did, and the local sports media will let them off the hook

@BobO-r6r 6 күн бұрын

Why don't we make a run at Trouba or why didn't we make a run at Skinner. I guess Jim is saving the money for a playoff push / trade later in the season.

@allaboutAnna1 8 күн бұрын

Joey, the guys we added played on shitty teams. They were asked to play upper 6 minutes that isn't needed in Dallas. Dumba is better than a 6 or 7. We needed to toughen up. Hintz playing with a broken finger without repercussions cannot stand. Price will paid now. Given the superstars we need to pay I'm fine with these guys. Make no mistake, if a team thought they could bully Dallas, and they did, that option is weaker today. I'd bet a dozen donuts DeBoer said something to Nill that sounded something like "we need more bad asses. Benn can't do it all". .

@poetryporn9675 8 күн бұрын

That shitty team a few times scratched dumba dude lol

@georgehe1473 8 күн бұрын

then why nils lundvist

@nateg7204 8 күн бұрын

Closed the window on themselves, makes the Edmonton loss even worse

@user-fc1zx2vo7p 8 күн бұрын

where are you getting all these takes and stats. Dumba played 15 minutes a playoff game for the Bolts and had decent stats in those games. jeez the world isn't falling. You already have 3 of your top 4 dmen, Bichsel will get a look this preseason, Nils is better than Hank. walker sucked for colorado in the playoffs. no way they should have given Tanev that contract, he'll never play a full season and won't see out that term.

@LockedOnStars 8 күн бұрын

@user-fc1zx2vo7p Dumba was a -2 in five games with no points. I think Dumba is an okay player, but not suitable for the role Dallas will ask from him. Nils maybe better than Hank, but what gives you the confidence from the way he's been used here he's actually going to make an impact? I don't want to give the impression the world is falling, but they are worse today than they were a month ago. As I said though, I would love to be wrong.

@nunya44288 8 күн бұрын

@user-fc1zx2vo7p idiot take

@murrkieryel6602 8 күн бұрын

So have the Knights

@user-fc1zx2vo7p 8 күн бұрын

Nobody and I mean nobody wants Suter back. Dmen were getting outragous contracts yesterday. They dropped 2 of the slowest skaters in the league and picked up 2 decent Dmen who have a lot of playoff experience. look at their advanced stats in the playoffs. Nils is better than people give him credit for and you have 3 young Dmen knocking on the door. Lets see if Bichsel gets a 9 game tryout at the NHL level.

@nunya44288 8 күн бұрын

Bischel is still a rookie. Look at the Devils this past season for an example of what rookie Dmen with high ceilings do for you in the short term. Spoiler Alert: Takes you completely out of contention.

@UNTrumpet 8 күн бұрын

There’s no 9 game limit for Bichsel, that’s only for slide eligible contracts, and he’s no longer slide eligible. And I for one would rather have Suter at $3.6 than Ilya at $3.3 for 3 YEARS!! Plus Suters ~$800K

@user-fc1zx2vo7p 8 күн бұрын

@@nunya44288 what about Harley!

@nunya44288 8 күн бұрын

@@user-fc1zx2vo7pFair. But Harley looked less and less stellar the longer the playoffs went on.

@josephtylerdc9830 8 күн бұрын

This is interesting... our younger players will be even better this year that need to be factored in . We needed big right shot men that was important and also I expect them to feel this out and make a big move at the trade deadline. Right now isn't the time to assume any move makes you a cup contender. The team is really good right now a playoff team for sure still so let's see how it goes.

@josephtylerdc9830 8 күн бұрын

I dont think it was as bad as you do honestly..i think they made smart moves not flashy moves.. with bourque stank and ofcourss johnston stepping up and in those 3 players will be great and better this season. Factor that in.

@fneall68 8 күн бұрын

What did Colorado do??

@markm9282 9 күн бұрын

It feels like the one goal was to get more physical on the back end with those 3. I'd rather have Jani at 2x1.5 than Dumba...but maybe his knee is too gone? Not excited either way

@jakobvarney9357 9 күн бұрын

Janis knee was to gone and I think the d core got better. Compared to the start of last year at least maybe once trade deadline hits make a splash but going player for player id say it’s improved

@georgelazenby7167 8 күн бұрын

Surer is better then any of the guys we signed, petrovic is better actually. Yesterday was an absurd free agency, steel and duchene signing were perfect, but our D-corp has been shredded. Not only that, but it was destroyed for 8 million dollars of cap space. Could’ve been montour, walker, slavin, ang of these guys actually. A 6 year deal for tanev would’ve been better than these signings.

@fneall68 8 күн бұрын

He will be great at 39-40??

@j.t.joseph7623 8 күн бұрын

Are they rebuilding?

@braydentaggart4335 8 күн бұрын

Sean Walker would’ve been a steal.

@Uniquegoalhorns 8 күн бұрын

Nooo!!! Scott😢

@BOOMERS._ 8 күн бұрын

In 2021 last year of Bowness we had 98 points and that roster is miles worse than the one we have currently the d core is slightly worse than in Pete's 1st year a small step back I'd say 107 points 1 less than Pete's 1st year.... Nashville is overrated they overpaid for 2 out of 3 deals and they overpaid for people at the end of their primes..... We will be fine we will be fighting with colorado for the division

@jefffyock2617 8 күн бұрын

I can say one thing for sure, Jim Mill won't get the General Manager of the year

@macvancouverufo 8 күн бұрын

Faksa traded today...maybe a new addition coming? Or that money is going to be used to sign Harley. Terrible dman free agency signings. Poor judgment by management

@cha-chi-14 8 күн бұрын

I can't believe People are saying this what DEI looks like!

@triptheory14 8 күн бұрын

Troglodytes. The lot of them.

@fneall68 8 күн бұрын

Remember trashvillie, bought out Duch.. what did he do last year ?

@robgrant9243 8 күн бұрын

He scored 65 points in 80 games. That's what.

@braydentaggart4335 8 күн бұрын

We might as well have signed Suter twice yesterday.

@rickygarza87 7 күн бұрын

A step back is a understatement

@user-qw1uf7me4b 8 күн бұрын

So disappointed. Nill is still scared from the Seguin and Benn contracts that he isn’t going to entertain big money/term contracts. We will never bring in the blockbuster name while he is GM.

@jclvmanagement7848 8 күн бұрын

Oiler fan here. Hard to believe, considering the chemistry and depth the Stars had in the 2023 2024 season Dallas was a sleep at the wheel for July 1. We got Jeff Skinner and Arvidsson, big Josh Brown, Henrique, resigned all our core players including our killer 3rd line and best power play line and best penalty kill line in the league. I'm guessing all the Edmonton signings had to do with Jeff Jackson being a super agent to the super stars. However Jackson got it all done it was an impressive body of work.. Oiler fans are super happy and excited to get 2024 2025 going.

@gregrehkemper8196 8 күн бұрын

I'm thinking Nill didn't realize free agency started noon EST and forgot to adjust the clock. Dallas really feels like they could be 4th in the division this year.

@angieengel714 8 күн бұрын

I agree something was off. It feels like maybe these were his C choices. Yesterday was like a piranha feeding frenzy with Free Agents. Maybe Nill freaked out because his first choices were taken? I don’t know. If that’s the case though, he should have stepped back, taken a breather. Done more research and come back today. I guarantee every one of the guys we snatched up (new players, not re-signs) would have still been available today. Maybe he would have even noticed some better options or at least signed these people for one year not two or three and less money. People using the Nills was GM of the year two years in a row immunity card need to wake up. Everyone makes mistakes and people have to be dense not to see Nill did in fact make some mistakes. I love the Stars and will support them even if they don’t do well. Realistically, this will probably be a rebuild year. I hope I’m wrong.

@Beezer1138 8 күн бұрын

Dallas just traded away Radek Faksa for.... future considerations.

@StephanieBeyo 8 күн бұрын

Clearly you guys only watch the stars an not multipul teams. AAV these are not over pays there bargains and you’ll see it when the season starts. Advanced analytics never tell full stories about a player.

@jennifertimlin1371 8 күн бұрын

Definitely not an improvement Now they’ve traded Faksa. Don’t expect much from 2025

@dalionlopez9828 8 күн бұрын

That Jim post trade interview definitely felt like he was saying there’s a rebuild coming

@ksert76899 8 күн бұрын

No one Cares About the Stars anymore People in Dallas and Texas will always have First place the DALLAS COWBOYS with the Mavericks now starting to generate intrest and the Rangers current WS champs Hockey is Dying in Texas this was the Stars year to win the Cup we are tired of Dissapointment and Poverty we want TROPHIES stars are about to go into Irellevancy Purgatory for not going all in

@david-gy2pi 8 күн бұрын

I agree Cowboys and Spurs are Royalty in Texas the Mavs might bring a parade soon to Dallas. stars a Going to make people in Dallas disinterested in Hockey or fans of other Franchises that do Win 🏆

@Mr4rch 8 күн бұрын

I like the stars buckaroo

@J.Millard15 8 күн бұрын

Some one pp’d in your cheerios

@loumnar54 8 күн бұрын

You giveaway Faksa? Really??? For whom, for what?

@bobbymason3420 8 күн бұрын

Jamie Ben’s 9 mill is a wall. Take that off books and yes they could have been more aggressive but with o my 19mill at cap they didn’t have much they added lots of puck blocking physical bodies which may be what the coach wanted for his d men. He has skill bodies on d to pair with them so….

@LegoGBlok 8 күн бұрын

looking t that D... that is not good enough for long playoffs run,...first round exit is max.. Heiskanen, Harley and Lindell are elite but... Harley is still unsigned and the rest of their d roster is barely NHL level, their 2 new acquisitions are a joke.. Dumba and Lyubushkin?? laughable. Dumba 2024 is not (quality) NHL level d-man, he is #7 guy, Lyubushkin, Coyotes didn't want him back, Sabres didn't want him back, Ducks didn't wan't to, neither did the Leafs... that should be where every ones bells be ringing.. - or are they planning to put Christian Kyrou to top 6?, is he ready yet?

@Shadowwolf7774 8 күн бұрын

We should have traded Robertson and got a right-handed defenseman.

@paulkuder270 8 күн бұрын

OMG this season is a wash. We should just scrap the whole team. We'll never make the playoffs again and this the worst day ever! Waaa At least give it until the trade deadline before we get down on the team.