Mario Kart Wii is Overrepresented in the BCP

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@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
Worth noting: Overrepresented does not mean doesn’t deserve to be the most represented. And for the record, yes I know that Moonview Highway has the "cnsw_63" file name. No, that does not mean Daisy Circuit was the track that replaced Mushroom Bridge. You all are way too purist when it comes to information from datamining. Maple Treeway has the cnsw_62 file name. Does that mean it's in Wave 6? No! And in Waves 4-6, seemingly none of these courses maintained their original slots/purposes. The names are just placeholders. They were likely an original plan, that got mixed up as early as Wave 3. It's not really significant in the present day because half the tracks don't even match their indicated wave anymore. After Wave 5 came out I was the first to tell everyone that Mushroom Bridge would not be in Wave 6, and many people doubted me when I said the final track would be a mystery retro course that we don't know about. The very reason I said the mystery course would happen is because there was no longer a functional purpose to include Mushroom Bridge a wave after they put Moonview Highway in. And now that the mystery course has been revealed, proving this intuition correct, everyone says its the MB replacement now. Daisy Circuit could've co-existed with either traffic course. It was always going to be Daisy Circuit and one or the other between the other two. What most likely happened is they built Moonview Highway first and just gave it the vacant file name. It would explain why Moonview made Wave 5 instead of Daisy Circuit, despite file names indicating otherwise. Mushroom Bridge was no longer required once Moonview was added though. So they got rid of it because of MH. Daisy Circuit was just the track that got to take the vacated file name. Even if Mushroom Bridge and Moonview Highway files probably existed at the same time, that version of the Booster Pass was never going to get published.
@LoganverseS1
@LoganverseS1 10 ай бұрын
Wii. Rainbow. Road. Is. Coming. IT IS INEVITABLE.
@isaacgates5859
@isaacgates5859 10 ай бұрын
​@TGMinecart I'm hoping it comes in MK9. It will actually get the treatment it deserves in that game.
@LoganverseS1
@LoganverseS1 10 ай бұрын
@@isaacgates5859 I think their putting GBA RR in MKX
@gofish7138
@gofish7138 10 ай бұрын
I hope GCN rainbow rode comes 20 year ago double dash came out
@LoganverseS1
@LoganverseS1 10 ай бұрын
@@gofish7138 It won’t sadly
@EggsyKart
@EggsyKart 10 ай бұрын
The entire Mario kart Wii character roster will be in MK8D once wave 6 releases. That’s crazy
@speedylitsonic7347
@speedylitsonic7347 10 ай бұрын
Yeah! And the full Star Cup too. Grumble Volcano in the mainline game, Koopa Cape and Maple Treeway in Waves 3 and 5, and once Wave 6 is out, we’ll get Daisy Circuit to complete the star cup!
@SMPSMLParodies_
@SMPSMLParodies_ 10 ай бұрын
Hammer bro almost made the cut in mkwii back then so almost close
@harrybest2041
@harrybest2041 10 ай бұрын
Super Mario Kart ❌ Mario Kart 64 ✔ Mario Kart: Super Circuit ✔ Mario Kart: Double Dash!! ❌ Mario Kart DS ❌ Mario Kart Wii ✔ Mario Kart 7 ❌
@bepis_real
@bepis_real 10 ай бұрын
@@speedylitsonic7347If we got Wii Mario Circuit, we would’ve had the entire Flower Cup from MKW too. This Booster Course pass has been bonkers
@Notyouraveragegal69
@Notyouraveragegal69 10 ай бұрын
@@speedylitsonic7347not mainline game, just main game…
@Roxleton
@Roxleton 10 ай бұрын
My only real gripe with he BCP compared to wii is the lack of Mii NPCs. They would add so much personal flavor to the tracks compared to the same old copy-paste toads and yoshis
@newsuperbowserworld
@newsuperbowserworld 10 ай бұрын
They have Nokis and pianta npcs in mk8 already but none are seen in the bcp
@SocialistTM
@SocialistTM 10 ай бұрын
yeah, im an mkwii fan and i never liked moonview highway so i was not happy but when i played it and there was not mii's at the toll stations i was mad
@Roxleton
@Roxleton 10 ай бұрын
@@newsuperbowserworld piantas are in coconut mall, but they dont use shy guys or bowser's enemies like paratroopas, and they dont use pitcrew toads. the only ones they use are toads, yoshis, and paratroopas which is frankly really stupid.
@newsuperbowserworld
@newsuperbowserworld 10 ай бұрын
@@Roxleton why don’t they use the Nokis from the water park course?
@Roxleton
@Roxleton 10 ай бұрын
@@newsuperbowserworld i forgot about those
@yaryoo
@yaryoo 10 ай бұрын
since their debuts; there has never been a mario kart game that does not feature Maple Treeway, Mushroom Gorge, Koopa Cape AND Coconut Mall all together.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
We don't talk about 8U I guess 😅
@caseyf14483
@caseyf14483 10 ай бұрын
Mario Kart 7 does
@ratabreak3902
@ratabreak3902 10 ай бұрын
​@@caseyf14483that game has all the 4 tracks
@FunkyOverload
@FunkyOverload 10 ай бұрын
@@HDRookiewell they all came back together
@ItzAdrian02
@ItzAdrian02 9 ай бұрын
Mario Kart 7
@calebkatz973
@calebkatz973 10 ай бұрын
“Wii Mario circuit has gotta be a top 140 course in the series” 😂😂😂
@FrazerEddy
@FrazerEddy 4 ай бұрын
It's an alright track in my opinion, I've seen loads worse than it.
@grrumakemeangry
@grrumakemeangry 10 ай бұрын
tbh I think daisy circuit really didnt deserve it over many ds, 3ds and double dash tracks. Daisy circuit is fine per se but its not outstanding and it gets overshadowed by many missing 3ds, ds and double dash tracks.
@williamsalva4740
@williamsalva4740 10 ай бұрын
Toad’s Factory is better than MKWii’s Star Cup!
@Prince_Partybug
@Prince_Partybug 9 ай бұрын
I think the best reps for those games would be : (3Ds) Bowsers castle or wario shipyard, N64 wario staduim and gcn rainbow road and ds Luigis mansion (Airship fortress aint happening)
@JacobPDeIiNoNi
@JacobPDeIiNoNi 7 ай бұрын
I agree with swapping out a Wii course but I don’t think it should be daisy circuit. The remix they gave it and the sunset aesthetic both feel so retrospective, celebratory and nostalgic that I think it makes daisy circuit great as a track in the final wave. It’s still not a very interesting track but it just has that “end of the journey” feel. Personally I would much rather replace moonview highway, that inclusion seems much more random to me. And I can imagine its spot in wave 5 being a perfect place to include say, airship fortress or shy guy bazaar.
@SoemthingFishy
@SoemthingFishy 10 ай бұрын
My biggest hope is that Mario Kart 9 will have every retro track in it (like the mkwii retro rewind mod) which i think would make everyone happy.
@NinJack
@NinJack 10 ай бұрын
If they wanna top 8 Deluxe, they kinda have to do it at this point lol
@bepis_real
@bepis_real 10 ай бұрын
It was an awesome surprise in Super Circuit, I can see them doing it again
@carlitolol1435
@carlitolol1435 10 ай бұрын
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Ultimate
@iidoughnutholes3087
@iidoughnutholes3087 10 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@carlitolol1435😂 then the dlc content added later could make the game “Mariokart 8 Super Deluxe Max Ultimate”
@Wedge_Khan
@Wedge_Khan 10 ай бұрын
​@carlitolol1435 I could honestly see that being what the next gen switch gets for a mario kart.
@NinJack
@NinJack 10 ай бұрын
Really bummed that games like DS and 7 didn't get the love they deserved for having the best nitros in the series in my opinion, hell, even though Double Dash's tracks so far have been bangers, the game has been extremely underrepresented since the beginning. I just wish they would've gave each game equal treatment aside from maybe SMK or 64 (not enough good tracks for them to bring back imo) and actually cared about adding in more non-Wii fan favorites rather than doing the whole DS Mario Circuit situation
@dogymacdogface.478
@dogymacdogface.478 6 ай бұрын
All that DS was missing in my opinion was Airship Fortress. That over DS Mario Circuit would have been ideal. Delfino Square and Luigi's Mansion are great tracks but with how tight everything was personally all they needed was Airship Fortress
@jomaq9233
@jomaq9233 10 ай бұрын
This DLC was kinda just limited in general because it had to stick so closely to Mario Kart Tour and what was already in Tour (including its controversial track layout changes) If anything, the Booster Course Pass is basically meant to be the “Mario Kart Tour tracks and also a select handful of the Tour remakes of older tracks” pass (Tour’s internal name is even “Booster”)
@FrazerEddy
@FrazerEddy 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, they only did it because Tour wasn't doing well money wise I think. Just like Deluxe was released on the Switch, because the Wii U was failing horrifically.
@FunkyOverload
@FunkyOverload 10 ай бұрын
Mario Kart Double Dash is the definition of Forgotten Middle Child
@cowboyluigi5275
@cowboyluigi5275 10 ай бұрын
and the only tracks DD got were already retros from Wii and 3DS!
@jeremiahhester6408
@jeremiahhester6408 10 ай бұрын
Which sucks because I think it's the best Mario Kart gameplay wise.
@FunkyOverload
@FunkyOverload 10 ай бұрын
@@jeremiahhester6408i feel like they need to add a doubles mode next MK I think that would be cool
@jeremiahhester6408
@jeremiahhester6408 10 ай бұрын
@@FunkyOverload Oh yeah.
@FunkyOverload
@FunkyOverload 10 ай бұрын
@@jeremiahhester6408I just Hope DK Mountain gets in
@MannyGM
@MannyGM 10 ай бұрын
As much as I love the Wii Tracks. I feel like someone at Nintendo have Mario Kart Wii bias. I wish Nintendo could just give us more DS, N64, and 3DS Tracks
@joseluistrejo1683
@joseluistrejo1683 10 ай бұрын
DS Airship Fortress, N64 Koopa Troopa Beach and 3DS Shy Guy Bazaar are good choices imo.
@OriginalGameteer
@OriginalGameteer 10 ай бұрын
​@joseluistrejo1683 honestly I would've taken any of the 3 unused 3ds Mushroom cup tracks over Toad Circuit Daisy Hills, Cheep Cheep Lagoon, and Shy Guy Bazaar were all so much better
@Getoutofjailfreecard
@Getoutofjailfreecard 10 ай бұрын
The bias is valid wii is the best game argue with a wall
@jeremiahgreen5632
@jeremiahgreen5632 10 ай бұрын
​@@GetoutofjailfreecardAnd so? Being the best game doesn't mean it deserves all this
@Noshadesfunky
@Noshadesfunky 7 ай бұрын
Seeing ds having the most retro tracks is the LAST thing i wanna see. i’d rather have 5+ Super mario kart tracks, N64 wario stadium, 3DS cheep cheep lagoon and more of the worst new tracks from every game excluding 8 and DS than having more ds tracks.
@brandonkong4299
@brandonkong4299 10 ай бұрын
Even as a major Wii fan, I think there’s too many Wii tracks in the game, like I get the legacy behind the game but like other games deserve a chance to get more recognition in 8DX but you know there’s nothing we can do about that
@FrazerEddy
@FrazerEddy 4 ай бұрын
Problem is, not many Wii tracks made it into Mario Kart 8 originally. And the only ones that did, were either tracks many people didn't ask for (Moo Moo Meadows, although that one is okay), or tracks that some people despised in the original game (Grumble Volcano, even though the remake is fantastic in my opinion). Wario's Gold Mine only made it in as DLC in the Wii U game, even though some people despised that track too in the original. Point is, they wanted to make it up to Mario Kart Wii fans for not porting that many Wii tracks into the base game to begin with. And yes, Deluxe is only a port of Mario Kart 8 on the Wii U, because that console failed devastatingly!
@wryglitter4186
@wryglitter4186 10 ай бұрын
Yeah,Us Wii fans is having the best dessert in the Bcp,We got Coconut Mall,Moonview Highway, Mushroom gorge,Koopa Cape,Dk Summit,Daisy Circuit,Maple Treeway,Mario Circuit 3,Peach Garden,Waluigi Stadium and funky returns too?,Thats so delicious….
@FunkyOverload
@FunkyOverload 10 ай бұрын
Funky is the best part of the game easily
@wryglitter4186
@wryglitter4186 10 ай бұрын
@@FunkyOverload and the flame runner🔥🔥🔥🔥
@chanwalk1659
@chanwalk1659 10 ай бұрын
All we need now is DK Mountain and Wii Rainbow Road 😂
@FunkyOverload
@FunkyOverload 10 ай бұрын
@@chanwalk1659hell Yeah
@KevSB07
@KevSB07 9 ай бұрын
@@chanwalk1659 guess what
@superxavxii421
@superxavxii421 10 ай бұрын
I wanted MK7 tracks like Wario Shipyard and Maka Wuhu. I never played double dash but i also want Wario Colosseum, it looks so fun.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
It's so good lol. Not sure it translates amazingly to the BCP (maybe the original 8 where there was a heavier emphasis on being creative for anti grav), but it's a cool design. Played amazing in double dash.
@FrazerEddy
@FrazerEddy 4 ай бұрын
@@HDRookieSeriously, it would've made perfect use of antigravity. Ah well, maybe it'll be remade in Mario Kart 9.
@supere4nitro
@supere4nitro 10 ай бұрын
My main gripes with Mario Kart Wii have always been strictly on a gameplay level, as I never cared much for the controls or item balance. Wii’s track selection and roster are some of the best in any Mario kart game, so bringing them over to one of my favorite games in the series is amazing in my book. Though the MKDS fan in me is a little annoyed that some fan favorite tracks from that game got snubbed
@Wedge_Khan
@Wedge_Khan 10 ай бұрын
Hey, you got Mario Circuit. That's something right
@FrazerEddy
@FrazerEddy 4 ай бұрын
At least Waluigi Pinball made it in. And Tick-Tock Clock was already in the base game on the Wii U. But yeah, tracks like Luigi's Mansion, Delfino Square and Airship Fortress would've been nice.
@Pokemichael
@Pokemichael 10 ай бұрын
As much as I love mkwii’s courses, they gave it way too much in the BCP, and completely neglected double dash, 7, and N64. N64 and 7 at least got a lot of love in the base game, but double dash in general has been neglected in 8dx. Hopefully Mario Kart 9 gives double dash the love it deserves and lets Wii take a bit of a break. Also cool to see someone else planning a “how I’d change the BCP” thing
@bradparris7651
@bradparris7651 10 ай бұрын
I mean to be fair Double Dash was extremely represented in the Base game so was N64
@Pokemichael
@Pokemichael 10 ай бұрын
@@bradparris7651 I wouldn’t necessarily say that. In the Wii U dlc we got 2 banger courses from double dash, but base Wii U only gave us the 2 worst gcn courses.
@rustyshackleford234
@rustyshackleford234 10 ай бұрын
Common Mario kart Wii W
@thetreyceratops
@thetreyceratops 10 ай бұрын
It’s funny how the base 8 really liked N64 and gave it special treatment, then BCP really really really really REALLY likes Wii
@iviyohane
@iviyohane 10 ай бұрын
@@bradparris7651 Actually Double Dash had almost the same representation as Wii (4 and 3 courses respectively).
@arya_moghadam
@arya_moghadam 10 ай бұрын
I’m a MKWii native (it was my first Mario Kart) and you know I find it interesting that there were so many Wii nitros in the BCP. I’m happy they were represented, especially fan favorites like Mushroom Gorge, Coconut Mall, Koopa Cape, and my most favorite one being DK Summit. Wii’s nitros were incredible and had unique gimmicks that I really liked. As much as I kinda wished the other games were also represented in the BCP, I’m just really happy they’re bringing the most popular Wii tracks to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
@GoldenYoshi1
@GoldenYoshi1 10 ай бұрын
Sometimes I randomly think it almost feels like the team used the BCP as a chance to realize the "vision" they had for some of the Wii courses (graphically and gameplayically) but couldn't fully back then due to the limitations of the Wii (with the Wii characters thrown in due to their popularity)
@mikayel6175
@mikayel6175 10 ай бұрын
No way u just said graphically. The wii tracks look way better
@GabeTTiger
@GabeTTiger 10 ай бұрын
I still can’t get over how there is going to be 8 to even possibly 9 Wii tracks in the bcp and still only 3 or 2 GCN tracks. I think it should be fair that the next Mario kart if there ever is one should only get wii toad factory!Good video took the words out of my mouth.
@nikkhyrilnazrin4567
@nikkhyrilnazrin4567 10 ай бұрын
I think the final Wii track is Wii Rainbow Road.
@shadowcastyt
@shadowcastyt 10 ай бұрын
@@nikkhyrilnazrin4567 I hope not, much rather see the spiny cup get a brand new Rainbow Road and either give DD more love, add Airship Fortress, or give us Toad Factory in place of Wii Rainbow Road
@generalcrab0009
@generalcrab0009 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@shadowcastytThere are no more DS courses, we’re only getting one GCN course in Wave 6, most likely a jungle one, GCN Rainbow Road isn’t in Tour and Toad’s Factory isn’t in Tour. We’re getting Wii Rainbow Road whether you like it or not.
@harrybest2041
@harrybest2041 10 ай бұрын
​​@@generalcrab0009The prefix datamine is no longer 100% accurate. I do believe the rest of the wave won't be changed, but I didn't think a course would be replaced in wave 6 either originally. Still, Wii Rainbow Road is basically guaranteed.
@generalcrab0009
@generalcrab0009 10 ай бұрын
@@harrybest2041 yeah
@harubutjojo
@harubutjojo 7 ай бұрын
Honestly think of it this way, getting all these Wii tracks out of the way now means that when MK9 eventually releases there will be a more varied retro course selection. I imagine tracks like Toad's Factory, Airship Fortress and Wario Colosseum will be a given, and some other great tracks will return as well.
@Manstam
@Manstam 7 ай бұрын
true
@trgnf3393
@trgnf3393 10 ай бұрын
WII FANS ARE FEASTING 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥 NOW SAVE SOME FOR THE REST OF US 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🥶🥶🥶
@HowardSalwasser
@HowardSalwasser 10 ай бұрын
Just wait until MK8DX online play devolves into all-Funky Kong rooms. And forget about competitve MK8DX.
@caseyf14483
@caseyf14483 10 ай бұрын
i will represent Toad with dignity
@Manstam
@Manstam 7 ай бұрын
same@@caseyf14483
@FormerCookieCraftSGTS
@FormerCookieCraftSGTS 10 ай бұрын
Us Wii fans... we are litterally the definition of spoiled, obnoxious kids with parents that give us whatever we want, when ever w- Oh look Daisy Circuit!
@BrawlTheDevastator
@BrawlTheDevastator 9 ай бұрын
You're not funny.
@iviyohane
@iviyohane 10 ай бұрын
A lot of the retro tracks in the BCP have been appeared before as retro tracks in other games. They truly wanted to sell the DLC, that's why they have chosen the most popular courses from the most popular games. For example: Daisy Cruiser is from MKDD, but it is in Tour and the BCP because it also appeared in MK7, a most recent and popular game than Double Dash. Mushroom City and Wario Colosseum, also from Double Dash, have never been in other games, therefore, it was unlikely (not impossible though) to see them included. Mario Kart Wii is the most popular MK game by far, so makes sense thy this game has the best representation in the BCP.
@AlmondMilkLake
@AlmondMilkLake 9 ай бұрын
As a MKWii fan i have to say, 11/16 nitros (full Star Cup btw) + 3 of it's best remade retro courses + it's entire character roster being all in 8DX is just ridiculous. Nintendo may as well have remade MKWii at that point like 💀 there's so many amazing N64, GCN, DS and 3DS retros that never got a chance, at least GBA got a much more decent chunk of good tracks in comparison but damn, i'm honestly surprised Rosalina's Ice World was the surprise track instead of Dry Dry Ruins considering their blatant bias.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 9 ай бұрын
Well, they couldn't put 3 Wii tracks in a wave without overlap within a cup and they will never do that for retro cups. But yeah, might as well just do a remake haha
@thetreyceratops
@thetreyceratops 9 ай бұрын
Rainbow Road is unsurprisingly back too, and the last GameCube retro was the one that’s iconic because of Wii. And half of the trailer was Wii Rainbow Road. And I’ve seen people still unhappy because Toad’s Factory isn’t back, how much do you want????
@Serge.Song.Contest.got.Recaps
@Serge.Song.Contest.got.Recaps 9 ай бұрын
They want the whole game in MK8 Deluxe
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 9 ай бұрын
Haha, right. Nintendo really wants people off of wiimmfi it seems.
@FabschOblivion669
@FabschOblivion669 10 ай бұрын
Mushroom Bridge, Airship Fortress, and Shyguy Bazaar need to return
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
Would be cool
@RyanNerdyGamer
@RyanNerdyGamer 10 ай бұрын
To be fair, it’s underrepresented in the base game. Honestly, I was hoping there’d be more of a rebalancing in the BCP, and was pleasantly surprised. 🙂
@Mr.GameTeen64
@Mr.GameTeen64 10 ай бұрын
That's what i'm saying
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
They did make up for lost time, but the stats at the end of the video also did take into account the base game totals. I would say Wii not only caught up, it got out to a massive lead.
@mrpigg5446
@mrpigg5446 10 ай бұрын
Is it though? It was in base 8 on WiiU all the way back in 2014 but the DLC gave us Wario’s Goldmine bringing the number of courses up to 3 which is comparable to most other games represented in the base game, only being 1 behind 64, DD and 7, being the same as SS and DS and having more than Super. Seems fair enough to me
@rustyshackleford234
@rustyshackleford234 10 ай бұрын
Worst of all, all 3 of them were some of my least favorite Wii courses 😭
@JazzyWaffles
@JazzyWaffles 10 ай бұрын
There are only FIVE nitro Wii tracks missing, after Wave 6. Compared to the other games, all of the others have slightly less than half of their tracks represented. Wii, by comparison, has more than 2/3 of its tracks present. It's ridiculous.
@natelikesfun
@natelikesfun 10 ай бұрын
I love Wii's tracks and was more than satisfied with the selection we got up until now but i cant say i wasnt a little disappointed with Daisy Circuit taking the mystery slot in wave 6. After Wave 5, i was going to be satisfied with just Wii Rainbow Road in Wave 6 with the other 3 retros presumably being more varied picks, and i just wish that they had given some love to another game with lower representation for the mystery slot. Airship Fortress is the obvious pick in my mind, but even something like Wario Shipyard or another GBA track would have been nice to see. Not to mention we're most likely getting DK Mountain instead of DDJ which would mean out of all 4 retros we get in wave 6, 3 of them will also have existed in Wii which definitely feels like a little much. Heck, I'd even argue Mushroom Bridge was still a great pick to some extent considering it woukd also add a little more DS representation. Maybe not the best Wave 6 pick but still. Either way I'm still excited for Wave 6 but i just wish there was a little more variety in it
@iidoughnutholes3087
@iidoughnutholes3087 10 ай бұрын
Pretty much exactly what I said in my comment too. Daisy circuit is such an average track when there were so many better options from all the other Mariokart games. Especially Dino Dino jungle and airship fortress
@legoboy7107
@legoboy7107 10 ай бұрын
@@iidoughnutholes3087 Heck, if they wanted it to be a Wii track, there's better options from Wii alone, like...oh I don't know...Toad's Factory maybe, Nintendo?? As a big Wii fan myself, the only real thing that even makes Daisy Circuit that interesting is its visual setting, particularly the sunset, that's it, the course itself is very basic and meh in my opinion, other than maybe the elevated sidewalk or something which was kinda unique at least among Wii's tracks at the time.
@iidoughnutholes3087
@iidoughnutholes3087 10 ай бұрын
@@legoboy7107 exactly. There’s pretty much nothing unique about it, it’s just an average track, I would’ve much preferred toad’s factory. Very disappointing, and daisy circuits gimmick isn’t really impressive anymore since so many other tracks in the bcp or just in the main game also happen at sunset. The raised sidewalk is cool though lol
@ampixxy
@ampixxy 9 ай бұрын
As someone who has never play Mario Kart Wii, I both love and hate how many Wii tracks there are. I love it because it gives me a chance to play the courses from that game for the first time. But at the same time I wanna see tracks from other games, especially GCN and 3DS, I could name 5 tracks from both of those games I would've loved to see (Also because I can already play like 5 of the Wii tracks in the BCP on MK7, and it's alot of the best tracks there. so for gcn my picks are - Mushroom City - Wario Colosseum - Dino Dino Jungle - Peach Beach - Rainbow Road and mk7 its - Wuhu Loop - Daisy Hills - Shy Guy Bazaar - Wario's Shipyard - Bowser's Castle
@ryry9166
@ryry9166 10 ай бұрын
although i am a wii fan, as it was my first ever video game, i do think wii got waaay too much attention. i am glad to see these tracks but there are other tracks from other games that could’ve been added. it breaks my heart a little bit knowing that airship fortress’ chances are slim to nothing now that daisy circuit is here, and i was getting excited to see mushroom bridge. and mk7 has some really solid tracks that weren’t added. all i can hope for is that these tracks will get the love and attention base 8 and 8 dlc got for the next mk game
@SuperEpicness
@SuperEpicness 10 ай бұрын
my favorite MK game is 7. so much so that I can hold my own competitively and seeing how they treated the courses in the BCP is sad, not only did we get very little, but each track is inferior in some way to its original version. Toad Circuit is ugly. Rock Rock Mountain got the ugly rock treatment, making it so much worse to look at. and Rainbow Road's elevation got cut in half, making it no where near as fun to play.
@caseyf14483
@caseyf14483 10 ай бұрын
yeah, it's kinda sad, but at least we still have Melody Motorway (Music Park), Piranha Plant Pipeway (Piranha Plant Slide), DK Jungle and Koopa City (Neo Bowser City, A.K.A God's greatest creation) in the base game
@SuperEpicness
@SuperEpicness 10 ай бұрын
@@caseyf14483 I agree to an extent, however I think Neo Bowser City was better in 7, the rain physics were not as slippery
@aknight7642
@aknight7642 10 ай бұрын
@@SuperEpicnessthat is a opinion that I share that I will die on a hill with. I own both 8DX and 7 and 7’s version is much easier to handle.
@destroyermcw626
@destroyermcw626 10 ай бұрын
@@aknight7642I like both but 8 Wii U DLC and Deluxe is is so beautiful to look at but I barely fall.
@rebirthphoenix5646
@rebirthphoenix5646 10 ай бұрын
You forgot two things with the datamines: Dataminers found out that Waluigi Stadium was pushed back ahead of time by Maple Treeway before the reveal trailer came out. This happened after the Wave 3 teaser released. Also Moonview Highway is confirmed to be cnsw_63 (the mystery Tour nitro) and Daisy Circuit will most likely either be cnsw_56 or _66 depending which one the last GCN track picks up. But still essentially Moonview Highway filled up Mushroom Bridge’s niche while also replacing the scrapped/placeholder spot and Daisy Circuit subsequently taking up Bridge’s original placement. Still would’ve preferred both Moonview Highway and Mushroom Bridge (or Dry Dry Ruins if we were always getting a Wii replacement) personally over Daisy Circuit due to the interesting gameplay of Bridge and the lack of traffic courses still even with the BCP. Yes I think we needed 5 traffic courses out of 96 total tracks and just have 8 GCN tracks in general. And funny that with Waves 2, 4, and 6, we still got SNES Mario Circuit 3, Waluigi Stadium, and most likely DK Mountain and Wii Rainbow Road which where all in Mario Kart Wii as well lol
@De_an
@De_an 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget about Peach Gardens.
@rebirthphoenix5646
@rebirthphoenix5646 10 ай бұрын
@@De_an Oh yeah he did mention Peach Gardens in the video as a Wii retro but not the others I listed above.
@AWMonopolyMan
@AWMonopolyMan 10 ай бұрын
The same thing happened with Daisy Cruiser, that was a Wave 4 track pushed back for Wave 5, besides Moonview Highway, no other prefix was changed, not once. (Not referring to placement, just the actual prefix content). So basically the actual prefixes otherwise has been completely right since we haven’t gotten a DS track since Wave 4, a 3DS track since Wave 3 and an N64 track since Wave 2
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
I don't care about MH being cnsw_63 - Daisy Circuit was never going to be the track that forced Mushroom Bridge out.
@AWMonopolyMan
@AWMonopolyMan 10 ай бұрын
@@HDRookie I don’t care if you don’t care, your the one explicitly peddling the false hope that Mushroom Bridge (or a GCN track in general) was forced out by a track that didn’t force anything out, people have every right to call out misinfo whether you like it or not
@Alxium
@Alxium 10 ай бұрын
I'd argue that they are bringing back all the Wii tracks for the same reason they brought back 3DS and (presumably) Wii Rainbow Road. If they would have kept following the trends that started over 10 years ago with Mario Kart 7, we would had to have waited an obscenely long amount of time to see some of these courses in a new game (especially the Rainbow Roads). From a business perspective, it just doesn't make sense to wait around while Wii fans grow older and move on when they can bring back almost all the content in the current game to help keep them engaged with the franchise. My guess is that the next game will focus more heavily on Double Dash, SNES, DS, and GBA for its base retro selection (48 courses to start, with 48 more being added over time like the BCP)
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
It makes sense for the Rainbow Roads. I even talked about this in my video about why they're not choosing certain courses for the Booster Pass (the one with wario and toad on the thumbnail). But for the other courses, it doesn't really make all that much sense to stack them all up, because they would be eligible for the next MK if they wanted them.
@ryderkartdx
@ryderkartdx 10 ай бұрын
Bro this is EXACTLY what I’ve been saying! I’m so glad someone else agrees with me that there’s way too much Wii representation within the BCP. Poor GCN and DS were done dirty. I don’t have a problem with any of the Wii tracks necessarily. It’s just… it’s too much. Like… how is the next game even going to compete with this one? Tbh the Wii tracks they should’ve saved for the next game is Daisy Circuit and Moonview Highway. The tracks that should’ve replaced those two imo are DS Airship Fortress and GCN Mushroom Bridge. I’m not trying to come off as a Wii hater because that’s obviously not true if you’ve seen my passion towards MKW, but it’s just a bit too much Wii I feel like.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
I think DS got pretty fair representation. They just made a wrong selection imo. 3DS got done the most dirty I think given what was selected, what was on the table, and the quantity that they got.
@biggiobiggin1775
@biggiobiggin1775 10 ай бұрын
As a huge ds fan that grew up on ds classics. I'm sad we couldn't get airship fortress or ds rainbow road. Ds rainbow road was literally made for mario kart 8! It already has anti gravity loops and corkscrews! In my opinion it was the most fun and challenging rainbow road with its sharp turns and beautiful look. (Once you got used to it it was okay but at first those sharp turns would make you rage lol) I'd wish nintendo would give us more of a look. But I also feel bad for GCN. They got screwed as well
@ItsHayden
@ItsHayden 10 ай бұрын
I love mario kart wii a lot, its what got me into the series, it has a ton of great tracks. But man a majority of MKWii fans are insufferable
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
Happens with every fanbase, to be fair
@xanander4693
@xanander4693 9 ай бұрын
Mario kart Wii fans are goated tho. Y’all hate us bc you ain’t us
@grrumakemeangry
@grrumakemeangry 10 ай бұрын
The ridiculous part is when mk wii fans got both funky kong and diddy kong but still had to keep crying that nintendo added pauline and peachette as well. As if more characters would hurt anyone, and I personally am sure as hell that no one will play funky kong after the first few weeks anyway because the only reason he used to be played is because he was broken as hell.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
I don't think it was Wii fans. Everyone complained about Peachette. Pauline seemed pretty well received too.
@CaptainRillaboom
@CaptainRillaboom 4 ай бұрын
I still don't understand why R.O.B got ROBBED for Peachette...
@crazycarlos08
@crazycarlos08 10 ай бұрын
The MKWii community is like Mario Kart's equivalent to the Melee community, but somehow less vocal, spoiled, and annoying.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
Don't want this video to be about the players. Lots of good people who work hard for both of those game's communities. This is about Nintendo only lending their ear to one group above all else, imo.
@maplechandelure
@maplechandelure 10 ай бұрын
overrepresentation?! i think you mean immense love!
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
That's certainly one way of putting it lol. The problem is limited slots. Immense love sadly means some neglected siblings here!
@rustyshackleford234
@rustyshackleford234 9 ай бұрын
I see it as the devs having Wii as their favorite game lmao
@PixelShiftss
@PixelShiftss 10 ай бұрын
Honestly I’m just happy GBA got the 2nd most amount of love in the retro department, they all were so good too!
@ldoge9639
@ldoge9639 10 ай бұрын
Oh right, i forgot how much you liked Sky Garden in this game.
@OriginalGameteer
@OriginalGameteer 10 ай бұрын
​@ldoge9639 sky garden is the one miss I'd say The rest were all decent at worst
@Zakko64
@Zakko64 10 ай бұрын
Meanwhile Mario Kart 64: 💀☠️💀☠️
@Efrencit017
@Efrencit017 10 ай бұрын
As wii fan it was nice seeing all the wii courses, but was bummed out that we didn’t get more from the other games.
@Diego_757
@Diego_757 10 ай бұрын
If I were fixing the BCP I would replace these Wii tracks -Mushroom Gorge -Moonview Highway -Koopa Cape The reason I chose MG and KC is because they were already in MKW and MK7, I’d put Shy Guy Bazar in wave 2 because it’s the most requested track since the Wii U DLC, Luigi’s Mansion and Dino Dino Jungle go into wave 5 because DS was done dirty last wave and GCN needs more love (I’m ok with DS Mario Circuit because the music is so good)
@jomaq9233
@jomaq9233 10 ай бұрын
I personally wouldn’t cut Moonview Highway… but purely because the new remixes are that good (might be tied with Big Blue for my favourite music in the entire game), as a track it’s kinda whatever
@BeanKally
@BeanKally 10 ай бұрын
I genuinely thought you’d have at LEAST 100k subs since this is so well made, but ONLY 3K?!?! You are CRIMINALLY underrated
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. Maybe one day 🙂
@Peppizza73
@Peppizza73 8 ай бұрын
If I would remove two Wii tracks, it's gonna be Daisy Circuit and Moonview Highway. For Daisy Circuit, I would put it in BASE 8 instead. If I can use Pipeline, I put it in Wave 5 and put Squeaky Clean Sprint in Wave 6. If Pipeline doesn't work well, I would put (GBA) Luigi Circuit in Wave 5 instead, and put Sunset Wilds in BASE 8 instead. And for Moonview Highway, we have lots of cities in the BCP. I would replace it with Mushroom Bridge. If Mushroom Bridge doesn't work well, then I'm removing Yoshi Circuit from the Wii U DLC for a DS track (Wario Stadium or Mario Circuit), and put Yoshi Circuit to be in the BCP instead. Bonus: I could remove Koopa Cave because 11 is a lot.
@aluigiFromKart
@aluigiFromKart 10 ай бұрын
listen, Wii may be my favorite mario kart, but that doesn't mean it needs THIS many tracks in 8 deluxe
@killeranime3591
@killeranime3591 10 ай бұрын
The BCP really turned 8 Deluxe into a Wii sequel
@ethanbluefan127
@ethanbluefan127 2 күн бұрын
No, the real reason why Mario Kart Wii was overrepresented in the BCP is because we only had 3 Wii tracks in the base game.
@PeachyFanboy
@PeachyFanboy 6 ай бұрын
The issue for me isn't the insane amount of Wii tracks, all of them were ones ive asked for Its Mario Kart Wii's fanbase that is my issue Even getting 8 tracks, they still are like "Why didn't Toads Factory return, 0/10" or "we want even more" its just they never have enough and keep asking for more. Which just shows how spoiled and annoying Wii fans are
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 5 ай бұрын
I don't want to call them all out per say. But the ones who do this, show a lack of self awareness, I think
@butta6286
@butta6286 10 ай бұрын
Love the vids! Can’t wait for wave 6.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
It's gonna be awesome
@kayden2119
@kayden2119 10 ай бұрын
Wii is my childhood game and the tracks they picked are great but yeah it is slightly overrepresented. Why there are not more ds tracks I will never understand. Double dash is probably going to end up alright unless they cut even more in the final wave. N64 is screwed though like come on. Like I am not actually mad because the wii tracks they picked are truly great but the obsession is a little weird and what actually annoys me are the annoying wii fans who think the world revolves around them.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
There is very little self awareness from the people who think their favorite game has all the best tracks. Like that is not an overall consensus people lol
@canadianmenu4178
@canadianmenu4178 9 ай бұрын
when u showed the track distributions for the retros for mk8dx and all the percentages for tracks that made it in i could barely keep my laughter in for no reason
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 9 ай бұрын
69% is a big number.
@canadianmenu4178
@canadianmenu4178 9 ай бұрын
its a nice number but number go bigger tho
@canadianmenu4178
@canadianmenu4178 9 ай бұрын
im joking mkwii is over represented but there were alot of good tracks that came out of mkwii in my opinion
@funminer8453
@funminer8453 10 ай бұрын
slight mistake. Moonview filled the blank prefix slot from Wave 6 (according to it's codename) and Daisy Circuit is likely to be replacing the GCN slot from Wave 5 (we'll see it's codename once the track is released)
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
Nah, I'm aware of what the public thinks. After wave 5 when we learned it had the 6-3 slot I still called it the Mushroom Bridge replacement, because that's what it was added to the pass to be. That's why it was in Wave 5. It and Mushroom Bridge were never going to coexist. In-game ID =/= functional purpose in the pass. We aren't supposed to see the IDs. They'd only matter to begin with if they actually matched the courses final locations anyway.
@chedder_chandlure4363
@chedder_chandlure4363 10 ай бұрын
Us DS fans were robbed (heh) of airship fortress!!! LET US EAT TOO!!!😭
@NintenRob
@NintenRob 9 ай бұрын
Having a GCN track get scrapped while Wii got over double the amount really bothers me. It frankly just feels unfair
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 9 ай бұрын
Perhaps the prefix leak made it feel like our expectations were tinkered with, yeah
@reggie7408
@reggie7408 10 ай бұрын
Never thought I’d hear ppl complaining about Mario kart Wii courses being remade in HD. Literally all of em are bangers
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
Don't think having as many courses return as N64, GCN, and 3DS combined is warranted at all still. Plenty of great tracks were left out from those games
@Avatar-fc2qi
@Avatar-fc2qi 9 ай бұрын
As someone who loves Mario Kart Wii, I'm extremely frustrated by the amount of Wii courses in the BCP because I've already played all of those dozens of times and the main appeal of the BCP for me is that it enables me to play courses I've never played before.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 9 ай бұрын
The opposite perspective I see. I personally enjoy a good mix of old and new!
@duragdee2760
@duragdee2760 10 ай бұрын
1:45 'one of these games seems suspiciously large...' Maaaan, I didn't even think about that. I'll never look at that trailer the same again lol. Awesome video, by the way. Liked.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
lol, i hadn't either until i worked on the vid
@Noshadesfunky
@Noshadesfunky 10 ай бұрын
Im heavily in favor of mkwii but mk8dx is my second favorite and im glad mkwii got the most representation in this game and mk double dash deserves almost the same amount of representation.
@RedBoiPaul
@RedBoiPaul 10 ай бұрын
I don’t think that it shouldn’t be that surprising since the very beginning of the BCP when MKWii had a large box art compare to the rest. It sounds dumb, but MKWii is the only other MK game that sold sky-rocketed other than MK8D
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
I would say that both MKDS and MK7 had pretty notable sales numbers as well still
@mysteriousone1206
@mysteriousone1206 10 ай бұрын
I would have loved to see a Booster Course Pass 2, to give more tracks the love they deserve. I even made a theoretical roster (only six cups, though), this time focusing on the remaining tracks in Tour (with one notable exception), which happens to give MK7 the spotlight this time. Cup names come from RyderKartDX’s video on the same topic: Sunshine Cup -(N64) Luigi Raceway -(3DS) Daisy Hills -(GCN) Mushroom Bridge -(GBA) Lakeside Park Mega Mushroom Cup -(DS) DK Pass -(3DS) Wario Shipyard -(GBA) Yoshi Desert -(N64) Koopa Troopa Beach Blooper Cup -(GBA) Luigi Circuit -(SNES) Choco Island 2 -(3DS) Shy Guy Bazaar -(N64) Mario Raceway Bullet Bill Cup -(3DS) Cheep Cheep Lagoon -(SNES) Vanilla Lake -(Wii) Dry Dry Ruins -(DS) Airship Fortress Boo Cup -(DS) Luigi's Mansion -(N64) Frappe Snowland -(SNES) Ghost Valley 2 -(3DS) Bowser's Castle Thundercloud Cup -(GCN) Dino Dino Jungle -(3DS) Rosalina's Ice World -(GBA) Bowser's Castle 4 -(DS) Rainbow Road (I know DS Rainbow Road isn’t in Tour, but I wanted to end it with a Rainbow Road, just like the other waves, and it ended up being DS RR.)
@theplaguedoctorgamezyt9468
@theplaguedoctorgamezyt9468 9 ай бұрын
Rosalina's Ice World is already in the BCP, so what would you replace it with?
@mysteriousone1206
@mysteriousone1206 9 ай бұрын
@@theplaguedoctorgamezyt9468 Naturally, Piranha Plant Pipeline.
@mysteriousone1206
@mysteriousone1206 9 ай бұрын
@@theplaguedoctorgamezyt9468 Now, after restructuring a bit, my ideal BCP 2 would look like: Sunshine Cup -(N64) Luigi Raceway -(3DS) Daisy Hills -(GCN) Mushroom Bridge -Piranha Plant Pipeline Mega Mushroom Cup -(DS) DK Pass -(3DS) Wario Shipyard -(GBA) Yoshi Desert -(N64) Koopa Troopa Beach Blooper Cup -(GBA) Lakeside Park -(SNES) Choco Island 2 -(3DS) Shy Guy Bazaar -(N64) Mario Raceway Bullet Bill Cup -(GBA) Luigi Circuit -(3DS) Cheep Cheep Lagoon -(SNES) Vanilla Lake -(DS) Airship Fortress Boo Cup -(DS) Luigi's Mansion -(Wii) Dry Dry Ruins -(SNES) Ghost Valley 2 -(3DS) Bowser's Castle Thundercloud Cup -(GCN) Dino Dino Jungle -(N64) Frappe Snowland -(GBA) Bowser's Castle 4 -(DS) Rainbow Road
@caseyf14483
@caseyf14483 10 ай бұрын
as a Neo Bowser City stan, it's so funny watching this play out 😂
@rasvhw
@rasvhw 10 ай бұрын
I really wanted DD’s rainbow road :(
@Ryzen410
@Ryzen410 10 ай бұрын
Mkwii fans when they don’t get Mii outfit B: 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
@biggiobiggin1775
@biggiobiggin1775 10 ай бұрын
As a huge ds fan that grew up on ds classics. I'm sad we couldn't get airship fortress or ds rainbow road. Ds rainbow road was literally made for mario kart 8! It already has anti gravity loops and corkscrews! In my opinion it was the most fun and challenging rainbow road with its sharp turns and beautiful look. (Once you got used to it it was okay but at first those sharp turns would make you rage lol) I'd wish nintendo would give us more of a look. But I also feel bad for GCN. They got screwed as well
@Bluelight5587-hh9iy
@Bluelight5587-hh9iy 9 ай бұрын
The fact none of the Special Cup tracks from Double Dash are in this game is criminal
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 9 ай бұрын
Facts
@ArendAlphaEagle
@ArendAlphaEagle 10 ай бұрын
Surprised you didn't mention the music prefetch leak from Wave 2, since it leaked like 15 courses and matched perfectly with the prefix leak from Wave 1; it was here where we supposedly got to know the entirety of Wave 3 AND learned that Maple Treeway was gonna be in the BCP. Also, Moonview Highway technically didn't replace Mushroom Bridge. I mean, effectively it did, but Moonview Highway's internal file was called Cnsw_63, which matched with one of the prefixless courses, not a GCN one. This means that Daisy Circuit is most likely to have replaced Mushroom Bridge instead.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
Effectively is the keyword I care about here. The file name stuff doesn't really matter imo. Logic has won out over purist datamine believing at every step recently
@ArendAlphaEagle
@ArendAlphaEagle 10 ай бұрын
@@HDRookie But wouldn't it make more sense if Moonview Highway was Cnsw_56 then? That was already planned for Wave 5 anyway, like how Cnsw_63 was orignally meant to be a Wave 6 course, just like how Daisy Circuit is a Wave 6 course now. This is why I think these technicalities should've been mentioned, because if Moonview Highway was indeed intended to replace Mushroom Bridge, then this is a REALLY roundabout, and rather _illogical,_ way to do it; it could've been so much simpler... ...which is why _I_ personally think the reason why all the courses are being switched around like this in the first place is partially to mess with dataminers and predictions (since the prefix leak and the music leak really made the BCP too predictable; we know from the Wave 3 full reveal trailer that the switching was a last minute decision too, considering Maple Treeway was placed in Waluigi Stadium's original position).
@darlingfern
@darlingfern 10 ай бұрын
Anyone else think that Nintendo is trying to get more MKWii fans to move to MK8D? It's the most popular game after 8D so it makes sense that they'd want to try and move the fans of that game to the one they want more attention on.
@chanwalk1659
@chanwalk1659 10 ай бұрын
Tbh as a Wii fan, I am satisfied 👏🏾
@speedylitsonic7347
@speedylitsonic7347 10 ай бұрын
Same here!
@moth_farmer
@moth_farmer 10 ай бұрын
Agree
@wryglitter4186
@wryglitter4186 10 ай бұрын
Very true
@shadisnotamused
@shadisnotamused 10 ай бұрын
Yall BETTER be at this point lol
@FunkyOverload
@FunkyOverload 10 ай бұрын
I am satisfied because Funky Kong is here and Moonview Highway was added that was all I wanted
@nicks9871
@nicks9871 9 ай бұрын
Completely agree. While a lot of Wii tracks are amazing, other games need more representation. I feel like 3DS, DS and GCN got cheated. They have some excellent courses that didn’t get to see the light of day. Two back to back waves of 2 Wii tracks is ridiculous in my opinion. Especially when GCN didn’t even get 4 tracks in the whole BCP.
@theunknown0887
@theunknown0887 10 ай бұрын
As a mkwii fanboy I see this as a win but do feel bad for those who aren't mkwii fanboys in this regard
@returnofskurk1633
@returnofskurk1633 10 ай бұрын
I love Wii, but as someone that also loves DS and Double Dash it kinda sucks not seeing some of my favorite tracks from those games getting spotlight. Airship Fortress, GCN Bowser Castle, Wario Colosseum, GCN Rainbow Road, DS Bowser castle etc.
@FunkyOverload
@FunkyOverload 10 ай бұрын
At least Double Dash got good tracks in the BCP but I would’ve loved to have seen Wario Colosseum
@jomaq9233
@jomaq9233 10 ай бұрын
Lol the only one of those that might still have somewhat of a chance is Airship Fortress (because the rest aren’t in Tour)
@returnofskurk1633
@returnofskurk1633 10 ай бұрын
@@jomaq9233Yeah and that is garbage?
@jomaq9233
@jomaq9233 10 ай бұрын
@@returnofskurk1633 like it or not, the Booster Course Pass was limited to tracks that appear in Mario Kart Tour, and for whatever reason, that game’s selection of Double Dash tracks (that weren’t already in 8 Deluxe) were very limited Also, really? Only one Bowser’s Castle from a 3D game got into Tour, whereas Rainbow Road at least got two?
@returnofskurk1633
@returnofskurk1633 10 ай бұрын
@@jomaq9233 Yes and it's bad, so what is your point here? In what world is that not bad? Some of the tracks that have gotten in have been remade several times over, it's boring.
@ECartmanist
@ECartmanist 9 ай бұрын
It's probably because WII is the best selling game (not counting Mario Kart 8) and less the competitive scene but dude Jesus Wii is so over-represented
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 9 ай бұрын
It definitely has to do with popularity, I get it.
@judgeofyoursins
@judgeofyoursins 10 ай бұрын
nah we dont have enough mario kart wii in here, give me toad's factory
@Dilmi.AOUKLI
@Dilmi.AOUKLI 10 ай бұрын
So MKWii fans are sad because of the lack of ultrashortcuts? That's stupid
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
Not as much anymore
@ComedySpike
@ComedySpike 10 ай бұрын
True and based. Bring back Airship Fortress!
@StarmisYT
@StarmisYT 10 ай бұрын
For as much as I love the Wii tracks(they're the best nitro selection to me, fight me DS), they did had to calm down and I would have much rather have an N64, 3DS, or GCN track take in for the mystery track.
@welcome2hi
@welcome2hi 10 ай бұрын
“Erm, actually, Moonview Highway’s in-game file shows that it actually took the place of the missing nitro, which means that Daisy Circuit likely took the place of the other GCN track 🤓” On a serious note, I absolutely agree, and I’m a Wii fan through and through. However, once Moonview got in, I knew that the game was getting unnecessarily spoiled. The people who are still complaining about not enough Wii content in 8 Deluxe are actually crazy. I’m perfectly content waiting until the next Mario Kart for Toad’s Factory, Dry Dry Ruins, and Wii Bowser’s Castle to return. Also the lack of Airship Fortress is a crime, and I’ve never played DS
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
I'm gonna go insane if I read one more in-game file comment l0l
@Mario87456
@Mario87456 10 ай бұрын
Funky Kong is unfortunately only really popular SOLELY because of his broken stats in Mario Kart Wii (as someone who likes Funky Kong as a character) if he didn’t have broken stats he wouldn’t have been popular or had a huge demand for him to come back I am afraid. Well admittedly I am not too bothered by the Wii bias since Mario Kart Wii was the first home console Mario Kart game I ever played but I can’t help but feel a little annoyed that Funky Kong has a fanbase solely for his broken stats in Mario Kart Wii. A part of me also hopes they will also bring the rest of the non costume characters from Tour into Mario Kart 8 Deluxe as well but I am not going to be too hopeful just to be safe.
@destroyermcw626
@destroyermcw626 10 ай бұрын
I totally agree on this and since he’s coming to 8 Deluxe I’ll maybe actually pick him and hope modders make cool skins for him.
@NotCyanToad
@NotCyanToad 10 ай бұрын
if rainbow road still comes as the EIGHTH FUCKIN WII TRACK IN THE BCP i'm going to eat my joycon (not really)
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
It will
@skc4188
@skc4188 4 ай бұрын
Did the Joycon taste well? 😂
@NotCyanToad
@NotCyanToad 4 ай бұрын
@@skc4188 yes, it was delicious 😁
@batjope23
@batjope23 9 ай бұрын
Mario kart wii was my first Mario game ever and I'm glad we're getting more wii tracks than just Coconut Mall, Mushroom Gorge, Maple Treeway and Koopa Cape.
@arctic_may
@arctic_may 10 ай бұрын
I love just watching Rookie poking the Wii bear... Hehe....
@minecrafter3448
@minecrafter3448 10 ай бұрын
Mario kart Wii simply has better tracks. It is that simple. Every single track is at the very least a 6/10, and that is an accomplishment. It’s not over representing if they’re just putting in the better tracks. Obviously they had some goofs like Mario circuit instead of airship fortress, but they have generally made good picks.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
please refer to 14:53
@mirelabitri8639
@mirelabitri8639 10 ай бұрын
Here are the Wii courses that are in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe: - Moo Moo Meadows - Grumble Volcano - Wario's Gold Mine - Coconut Mall - Mushroom Gorge - Maple Treeway - DK Summit - Moonview Highway - Koopa Cape - Daisy Circuit Courses that have yet to come: - Luigi Circuit - Toad's Factory - Mario Circuit - Dry Dry Ruins - Bowser's Castle - Rainbow Road (Likely to come in Wave 6)
@carlitolol1435
@carlitolol1435 10 ай бұрын
I wish we would have Airship Fortress instead of the pipeline track.
@DeanOtter
@DeanOtter 10 ай бұрын
MkWii was my first Mario kart game so I am glad that I’m able to replay a lot of courses… but yeah I agree some don’t need to be here lol. Not really too hyped about Daisy circuit and I thought that DK summit was a little underwhelming (still love the course tho lol)
@thefog13
@thefog13 10 ай бұрын
I think the reason that Wii got the most tracks is probably because it’s the most technically advanced game(other than 8 deluxe), and so Nintendo can make the most interesting tracks from it. I think it is slightly unfair, but we do not need another Toad’s Circuit, so I’m fine with it as long as it’s a good track.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
There were plenty of other great 3DS options to take still though, not all are TCs
@Esiassweden
@Esiassweden 6 ай бұрын
I mean, let’s get real over here. The reason why Wii stands don’t like Mario kart 8 because it’s not Mario kart wii
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 6 ай бұрын
Hey, some of them like both!
@Esiassweden
@Esiassweden 6 ай бұрын
@@HDRookie well most of them have really idiotic arguments
@PeachyFanboy
@PeachyFanboy 6 ай бұрын
​@@Esiassweden At long last i found someone saying it Wii fans are like: "if it ain't Mario Kart Wii, it's bad"
@AWMonopolyMan
@AWMonopolyMan 10 ай бұрын
“New original courses” Yeah, no, that’s not entirely how it went, since Ninja Hideaway, Merry Mountain and for that matter every “new” course eventually ended up in Tour anyway, these are Tour Nitros
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
I categorize them two ways, as Tour cities and Tour originals
@AWMonopolyMan
@AWMonopolyMan 10 ай бұрын
@@HDRookie Nitros (introduced in DS) was basically code for the new original to that game tracks, so either one is right
@anthonydouglas_2003
@anthonydouglas_2003 10 ай бұрын
I actually don’t mind this because so many people grew up with Mario Kart Wii as a child including myself so a lot of the courses create a warm nostalgic feeling so seeing these be remade in HD helps to bring back memories in a more fun fashion and also a lot of the modding community liked Mario Kart wii so it would attract that target audience too.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
Sure, that is the goal. But there were many people who grew up with the other games too, of course.
@anthonydouglas_2003
@anthonydouglas_2003 10 ай бұрын
@@HDRookieThat’s a good point. I did eventually decide to play them all as I was younger but I actually did find that I enjoyed playing a lot more of Wii’s courses than the other games. I would say that double dash also has some memorable tracks so maybe they could of sacrificed one wii track for a double dash track to satisfy the bigger audience. The best way for Nintendo to solve this is to just make a second booster pass and then that way they can bring over a bigger track percentage from a lot more games and please everyone as most of the tracks from people’s favourite Mario kart games would be there.
@JKV2500
@JKV2500 10 ай бұрын
I’ll be honest I don’t agree. Wii as a whole has more liked tracks, so it has more tracks. I didn’t play Wii, only 8, and Gorge and Moonview are two of my favorite tracks. Most N64 tracks are middle of the road to most people, with the good ones being in the game already. Most 7 tracks are just okay to most people, with the good ones being in the game already. Wii, even with 11 tracks, still has Dry Dry Ruins, Toad’s Factory, and Bowser Castle, all being fan favorites to some degree. I think the amount of each game is good for the dlc, except DS and 3DS. Airship Fortress should’ve replace Toad Circuit.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
I'd say the the majority of my favorite N64 courses are not in MK8, but they aren't in Tour. 3DS though, there were options. I think Wario Shipyard and Shy Guy Bazaar for instance would've been very high quality remake options, but there were only 3 slots for 3DS courses here.
@JKV2500
@JKV2500 10 ай бұрын
@@HDRookie For me, Shy Guy Bazaar and Rosalina’s Ice World are the only 3DS track left that would fit the dlc. Shipyard just seems like a lesser Cove to me. And the WuHu track probably aren’t coming back, along with the other 8 crossover tracks. Best case scenario, they keep the layout but just change the theming. For N64, Wario Stadium and Bowser Castle are the only ones I could think of. For Wario Stadium, we already have DS Wario Stadium, and Waluigi Stadium, both being better tracks in my opinion. For Bowser Castle, we’re getting BC3, which will probably be my favorite Bowser Castle. The older Bowser Castles don’t work for 8, especially in 200cc. Some tracks back then are tighter when speed was slower, and they are much longer than 8 tracks. For GCN, I know people want Mushroom City and Wario Coliseum, but it’s solely for their gimmicks. Mushroom City has alternate paths and cars, but thats it. Car wise Moonview is better, and alternate path wise Yoshi Valley is better. I like the gimmick, but City didn’t do it the best. I think a New Donk City track doing that would be neat. Coliseum has 2 laps, but Wii and GCN Rainbow Road could do that as well. Coliseum’s layout is just average too. Waluigi Stadium is just a better track for me. That’s just my opinion though.
@SheenFTW
@SheenFTW 10 ай бұрын
I just really feel bad for double dash and ds fans so many really great tracks that could of been represented
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
I think the DS fans at least got some Ws. Double Dash looking kind of rough though lol.
@CaptainRillaboom
@CaptainRillaboom 4 ай бұрын
I think Daisy Circuit should have been either in wave 2 or wave 4. That way, since Nintendo probably considers this as a circuit track, we could have filled the obligatory circuit slot with one of the best courses of this kind. Then replace 3DS Toad Circuit with 3DS Mario Circuit, which is also one of the better circuits.
@seanbernard5270
@seanbernard5270 9 ай бұрын
Now that the entirety of wave 6 has been revealed. I was originally disappointed that a Double Dash track got snubbed for another Wii course, but the more I think about it, the more Im glad, cause now the next Mario Kart game won't have as much Wii pandering as the BCP did, due to there only being five Wii courses that haven't been remade in a mainline Mario Kart (TOUR not included). Granted, three of the remaining Wii tracks are very solid tracks: Toads Factory, Bowser's Castle, and one of my personal favorite tracks of all time, Dry Dry Ruins, and the other two are Luigi and Mario Circuit, but hopefully they take the retro selection of the next game to bring more focus to other games besides MKWii.
@RaccoonThunderMario_Official
@RaccoonThunderMario_Official 9 ай бұрын
Watch it still pander to Wii fans by remaking those same courses we've gotten (Or better yet those rumors of it being Mario Kart Ultimate where they bring back EVERY track in the entire series)
@seanbernard5270
@seanbernard5270 9 ай бұрын
@@RaccoonThunderMario_Official lol
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 9 ай бұрын
I think it'll be TF and MC.
@seanbernard5270
@seanbernard5270 9 ай бұрын
@@HDRookie I personally think Luigi Circuit, because its a “nostalgic” meme course in mkwii, and then DDR or BC
@thetreyceratops
@thetreyceratops 10 ай бұрын
It’s still funny how 8 had a pretty trash roster at launch, but now, 8 has an objectively better roster than Wii. It is a fact that the 8 roster is better, and unless you REALLY like the Wii Miis, there is no argument
@Marshall.R
@Marshall.R 10 ай бұрын
One small correction I'd add is that the third "nitro" for wave 6 never existed to begin with, hence there being no evidence for it ever found within Tour's files. One of those blank spots was literally just a spot that was undecided as of wave 1.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
I think it'd probable that they planned on making one but just never got around to it. They clearly showed a willingness to replace a retro track from the original leak so they had no reason to use a question mark as a placeholder imo
@splegoon4289
@splegoon4289 9 ай бұрын
I’m actually mad that there isn’t DS rainbow road (the only rainbow road with a loopdeloop)
@xanander4693
@xanander4693 9 ай бұрын
DS rainbow is kinda boring tbh
@CaptainRillaboom
@CaptainRillaboom 4 ай бұрын
It should have replaced 3DS Rainbow Road.
@justn1n
@justn1n 10 ай бұрын
I 100% agree tbh, Wii fan partially but you're right. Also I saw a video about a theory that there will be a secret cup that will have a few final courses and that could be for airship fortress, mushroom bridge, etc. It would make the total amount of courses 100 which I can't imagine nintendo wouldn't want to market and sell a version of the game for at a markup.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 10 ай бұрын
If that secret cup exists they're definitely putting Dry Dry Ruins in it haha
@justn1n
@justn1n 10 ай бұрын
Mmm No lol@@HDRookie
@LJK69420
@LJK69420 9 ай бұрын
Oh well, that means the only wii tract in mk9 will be toads factory, so you get that one I guess
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 9 ай бұрын
I think there will probably be 2 courses still!
@CaptainRillaboom
@CaptainRillaboom 4 ай бұрын
Dry Dry Ruins is probably gonna make it in MK9 too.
@HEHEHE_I_AM_A_SUPAHSTAR_WARRIA
@HEHEHE_I_AM_A_SUPAHSTAR_WARRIA 10 ай бұрын
In my opinion if I had to rank how each game was portrayed in the BCP i'd say. Super Mario Kart: It's ok, considering these are SNES tracks and usually extremely basic, i'm glad that we got as little as we did, and a Bowser's Castle being super likely is a W 64: Didn't get a lot in the BCP, but had a lot of love in the base MK8 so it's fine Super Circuit: Definition of a monkey's paw with those simplified Tour layouts. Snow Land was the only one with the layout mostly intact and even that removed the alternate routes. Double Dash: Ok selection, but ultimately nothing we haven't seen return already, got done dirty. DS: Mixed bag, We got some bangers like Shroom Ridge and Winball, but so many bangers like Luigi's Mansion, DS Bowser's Castle, and Airship were all ignored Wii: Yeah I agree it's over represented, I would swap out a track or two, but keep DK Summit that track's awesome. 7: Done dirty, has the most hated track in the BCP, and 2 decent tracks, though 3DS RR had it's awesome ending shortcut removed which is lame. Tour: Had all it's content ported over because it's the BCP is secretly a Tour port.
@FunkyOverload
@FunkyOverload 10 ай бұрын
I wish DS Delfino Square had got it as well as Airship there’s a few other tracks that shouldn’t have been skipped over
@OriginalGameteer
@OriginalGameteer 10 ай бұрын
Wouldn't really say "secretly" It's been pretty obvious since wave 1 imo
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