Header Wrap, How To and Why with DEI and Lucore Automotive

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2 жыл бұрын

If you followed along with our Hot Rod Power Tour 2022 experience you know we had connected with DEI to mitigate some of the heat challenges in both the 1970 Pontiac LeMans and the 1979 AMC AMX. Well after enjoying a much cooler drive across the American deep south during a 100+ degree heat wave we figured this would be a great time to reconnect and discuss their DEI Titanium Exhaust Wrap, and how to properly wrap a header.
Fortunately for us we happened to have a set of headers to be used for this demonstration! The AMX is about to make the switch from factory manifolds to Hedman Hedders so perfect timing to show off the proper way to get this done! We reconnected with Mike of DEI and he had us come up to their corporate headquarters in Avon Ohio to film the process.
We aren't usually the How To type folks and we don't do a ton of header wrapping, but we couldn't pass up this opportunity to make a step by step in depth video. On top of all that we got a quick tour "behind the scenes" at their production facility to see just how some of their products are created, essentially all of which is Made in the USA... on equipment almost all Made in the USA! That's the kind of thing we certainly love to see.
Huge thanks to everyone at DEI for their support and willingness to shoot this video with us, and to Mike for the free labor! Most folks doing this are coming at it without any experience so being able to share this kind of thing we feel is a pretty valuable video. We hope you all enjoy it and learn something from it as well!

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@LucoreAuto 2 жыл бұрын

Something a bit different from us, the How To thing isn't our typical but we thought we should use this opportunity to do a little extra education on something. What do you all think? Sometimes you are interested in seeing a bit more of?

@rolliefoster2837 2 жыл бұрын

...awesome content ! The things most of us over look, DEI is legit - thanks for taking the time to share with us !...

@LucoreAuto 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Rollie glad so many people are enjoying and appreciating this video. A bit our of the "normal" for us but think it turned out pretty good.

@stephencarter1442 2 жыл бұрын

Been using DEI to protect our brake lines from heat from the start there sleeves for existing lines being able to wrap with disconnecting is huge dropped our master cylinder temp 100 degrees. Solid product.

@LucoreAuto 2 жыл бұрын

For SURE! The peel and wrap products are life savers and make a massive difference. You really never understand just how crazy hot it gets in engine bays and what a difference a thin bit of material can make. This definitely won't be the last of their product you see us using ;)

@leonardwalters154 2 жыл бұрын

Ok,I'm sold on the product just not ready for it yet, and the gentleman that did the wrap did a fantastic looking job

@LucoreAuto 2 жыл бұрын

Mike is awesome and did a WAY better job of it than I did on the Pontiac, though to be very honest I was also rushing because I was hard up against a time crunch. Take your time and do it RIGHT or you'll be doing it again and hating yourself.

@terryeustice5399 2 жыл бұрын

This was a change from your normal videos. I don’t think that would be something I would have patience to do. No doubt have a professional demonstration. I think was great. Thank you for sharing!

@LucoreAuto 2 жыл бұрын

It's most definitely time consuming, somewhere between 2 and 4 hours depending on what application is and what materials. Doing this on my ceramic coated ones was a BIG pain because the wrap kept slipping. Certainly not for everyone nor is it necessary for everyone.

@zeitgeist57 2 жыл бұрын

This was GREAT. I have old header wrap...long tubes on my Dodge LA 360 looks like a mummy like a horror movie...I'm definitely encouraged on using these tricks to re-wrap and give the headers a race-ready look! :) Thanks for an unexpected but very informative video!

@LucoreAuto 2 жыл бұрын

Very welcome glad you enjoyed it, certainly a bit out of our "normal" but figured since we had such a good connection with the DEI guys use the opportunity. Mike was nice enough to say yes and give us some free labor ;) Even after having done these myself learned some very useful tricks.

@louismora721 4 ай бұрын

Mike's The Man!

@joshbuxton2783 2 жыл бұрын

Great content, great company, great products and great people.. How can you go wrong.. Thanks y'all

@mrvang8077 2 ай бұрын

Just order mine to put on my V6 header. Seems like it gets pretty hot inside the engine bay so hopefully this wrap will help reduce the internal engine bay from getting so hot all the time especially in the summer time whe the temp is over 110 degree. Every little bit of heat that I can help reduce inside the engine bay would prolong the life of all the internal gasket, plastic, and rubber from wearing out.

@GabrielCoffman-ho4wp 4 ай бұрын

just bought a equal length 4-2-1 header for my brz . This video helped a lot and I will be getting titanium wrap rn 😂

@LucoreAuto 4 ай бұрын

Good to hear! It's definitely a good product to work with, MUCH better than the old stuff!

@rondavis8327 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! always curious about the header wrap. Ty for video.

@LucoreAuto 2 жыл бұрын

Very welcome Ron glad you enjoyed it. With us heading into the oven that was the Southern US for Power Tour every little trick to keep heat out of the car helped!

@frediefarmer 2 жыл бұрын

👍🏽🇺🇸👍🏽 he made this look way easier than it really is.. awesome job,looks amazing

@billyray8062 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting Austin.

@LucoreAuto 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you thought so, a bit out of the ordinary for us but figured it was something useful we could share.

@aascher4039 2 жыл бұрын

Good stuff guys!

@LucoreAuto 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you like it!

@djorion11 3 ай бұрын

Yikes, i just ordered fiberglass wrap. Guess ill get this titanium stuff! Thanks

@LucoreAuto 3 ай бұрын

It's VERY well worth it even just for the ease of use! Yes it's a bit pricy but man is it better and kinder to work with!

@jeffjankiewicz5100 2 жыл бұрын

They have kits, 2 ea 2" roll x50ft, ties and tool for $162 bucks FYI.

@LucoreAuto 2 жыл бұрын

Yessir! Good call out, we should have mentioned that!

@Loki13M 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, great info Austin! The DEI crew seems to really have their act together with this stuff! Put some fiberglass heat shield on the turbo in my old Dodge a handful of years back because the factory tin shield rotted away, found the leftover bit of it as I was cleaning out a shed last night (I R hoarder!) and was surprised to see it was a DEI product. (When I originally bought it , it was the only product of it's kind on the shelf so I was not paying attention to brand name) And apparently you posted this as I was digging and discovering lol. Most excellent timing sir! After watching this I think I will get some of the new stuff you were using and replace the old, and now tattered, fiberglass... and maybe enough to do the hotside pipe too.

@Bikedueder 9 ай бұрын

VERY good video. I watch a lot of how to's with a first time build, and always liked the looks and anti heat benefits. I do come from a back ground of wrapping racing bicycle bars so hopefully mine turns out good. I probably wrapped 400 sets in total, so the experience will definitely help. About to wrap the long tube headers for my 1970 Torino

@suburbanfreak87 Жыл бұрын

Just did header wrapping for the first time. Patience! Used the steel zip ties and broke several of them cause I turned it the wrong direction. Thanks for the informative vid.

@jeffjankiewicz5100 2 жыл бұрын

Yet another zip tie moment. Once you get so far, use the zip ties to hold it just in case of a hand cramping up. Job can be a pain in the butt, but done right it`s well worth the effort. Wait till the job is complete before celebrating with cold snacks. You need an extremely sharp pair of scissors for the job. Thanks for the lesson Mike. Thanks for taking us along Austin. This should definitely help with the heat. Speaking of the Pontiac, did Jim lose any weight due to the heat. You both were sweating up a storm. Stay safe guys, God Bless.

@makantahi3731 Жыл бұрын

you only need jaggy scissors, even not too sharp(i made teeth on scissor by small cutting disc)

@JuanhCjbhvnbtrf 4 ай бұрын

If you have hand cramping while working hard with your hands, take Magnesium Glycinate. I’m a career mechanic it did absolute wonders for me, good luck!

@JuanhCjbhvnbtrf 4 ай бұрын

Magnesium is the mineral responsible for relaxing the muscle (even the heart) after hard work or extended period of times of contractions. When it’s missing your muscles will over contract

@JuanhCjbhvnbtrf 4 ай бұрын

Potassium for pump (contraction) and the magnesium for the relaxation. The key three tho is Magnesium, Potassium, and Sodium. But out source most of the shelf stuff is inorganic and do nothing for the body.

@hydroy1 2 жыл бұрын

When I got my stainless shorty headers for my 327 Chevy, I thought about wrapping them, but did not, I just left the shorty headers alone. I have about 3,000 miles on the new motor now and found under hood heat off the headers in Florida summer heat is not really a big deal. I did however wrap all the pipes from the collectors all the way back to the mufflers to keep cockpit temps down so the A/C can keep up and that is a wise move as the pipes go all the way passed the B piller where the mufflers are located at. This simple straight pipe wrap was very simple to do and really keeps the heat down under the cockpit inside the car. I am old enough to know better than to have loud mufflers on a red muscle car on long trips ( friggin FlowMasters all SUCK ! ) So I researched & found & installed a pair of the most quiet, free flowing touring muffles on the market ( Bola touring) and used 2 1/4" pipes from the collectors to the mufflers and 2 inch out the back. To be honest, it's STILL to loud for my liking as in some small town USA, you do NOT want to draw any attention to an out of state plate on a RED muscle car!!!! So I am now into looking for a resonator muffler to add to the system to shut this 327 completely up.

@GabrielCoffman-ho4wp 4 ай бұрын

14 in high flow flowmaster i k you said u didn’t like them but the high flow one is 👌🏾

@raybrindos4514 2 жыл бұрын

Got a couple of loops in your video.

@shanelynn7830 2 жыл бұрын

Ok good I thought it was just me 😅

@LucoreAuto 2 жыл бұрын

Woops! Will have to rewatch it. Sorry :( We aren't trained professionals around here! lol

@shanelynn7830 2 жыл бұрын

@@LucoreAuto ita all good, i thought someone spiked my drink 😂

@Obshowersyndicate 2 жыл бұрын

I watched a 67 firebird burn up from a Trans leak soaked the header wrap and caught 🔥

@ginoasci2876 2 ай бұрын

At 28:05 you mentioned greenish titanium wrap that comes from the eastern part of the world. What brand is that greenish wrap ?

@ssoffshore5111 2 ай бұрын

I want to add high-flow cats to a mid-pipe on my C6Z, can I wrap over the SS aftermarket cats to keep the already hot tunnel cooler?

@victoroneill7924 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I wrapped a set of headers with the old type wrap and it was a nightmare.

@LucoreAuto 2 жыл бұрын

Usually once you've done it once you hate it and never want to again. Between getting it wet getting it in place trying NOT to get splinters in your hands/arms/everywhere.. This stuff is a WAY better product

@makantahi3731 Жыл бұрын

nightmare will be to unwrap it because wrap become fragile and it starts to prick in skin and fingers

@richardbolt6808 5 ай бұрын

I had to overlap like a whole wrap in order to wrap this 1 section of header, jba for 15 ram 1500, will things be ok?

@oldbikerdude333 4 ай бұрын

Down at the bottom of the header is it okay to double wrap that part of the exhaust the Bronx real close to my starter I have problems with it overheating the starter so I'd like to know will it hurt anything to double wrap that part of the exhaust

@dr.p8077 2 жыл бұрын

How about making a short video about the difference with what you did Austin compared to Mike from DEI? It would be an interesting comparison I think.

@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369 2 жыл бұрын

HOWdy LUCORE, MotorCycle PIPES are much - Much - MUCH Easier to WRAP 🙂 COOP ...

@LucoreAuto 2 жыл бұрын

Oh for sure! Start to finish a couple minutes versus wrapping cloth around spaghetti!

@Fordkent1600 Ай бұрын

How much wrap did you use

@lizardking_7 Жыл бұрын

Are those headers cerakoted?

@victoroneill7924 2 жыл бұрын

Where do you get stainless zip ties? I didn't know they existed.

@LucoreAuto 2 жыл бұрын

DEI provides them. Makes things a WHOLE lot better, especially now after seeing Mike do this the right way. Used a few too many when I did it myself :)

@billstreber5194 2 жыл бұрын

The only thing I'm concerned about is you mentioned massaging the headers to fit won't that tend to destroy the wrap?

@LucoreAuto 2 жыл бұрын

They don't need much massaging and we won't heat cycle them before that so they should still be nice and flexible still. Hopefully. I guess we'll find out soon :)

@makantahi3731 Жыл бұрын

i know, wrap becomes brittle and sharp, it crumbles with lot of glass dust that irritates skin, eye, lungs, i used 1400c "titan" wrap, it had lasted for 5 years, other 600c white wrap was destroyed after 7 days of a few flooring (on rear part of exh)

@anthonyacevedo8366 Жыл бұрын

How many rolls did u end up using and we’re they 100’ or 50’ rolls???

@anthonyacevedo8366 Жыл бұрын

Nm lol should have watched till the end great video thanks

@thomasjohnson1142 2 жыл бұрын

He’s a gangster with no gloves I’ve used that wrap about 8 times different headers and I’ve had more luck wetting it or soaking before . And that shit is itchy lol. Better invest in a lint roller sounds stupid but lint roller seems to get all the fibers out . God Bless. Thanks for the tutorial.

@LucoreAuto 2 жыл бұрын

You've had issues with the titanium wrap causing you issues? I did it barehanded as well and only had maybe 2 or 3 issues of itchy. Certainly way way WAY better than the old school fiberglass style stuff! Good tip on the lint roller, also having a pair of good sharp scissors!

@thomasjohnson1142 2 жыл бұрын

@@LucoreAuto yeah it’s better than the old but it still itchy in my opinion and in Texas it’s nice Hot and humid and it’s not fun when that stuff gets all lathered up in the sweat and ends up all over you lol

@davieboy1970 Жыл бұрын

There’s one thing that he either didn’t do, or just forgot to tell us.. isn’t the wrap supposed to go a certain way like something to do with the way it’s stitched together

@makantahi3731 Жыл бұрын

i wrapped it and after 5 years wrap started to fall apart, and ss304 was rusted beneath wrap, wrapping is worst case, better would be to make heat shield and that would not touch header

@markshepler7525 29 күн бұрын

Camera man???

@Obshowersyndicate 2 жыл бұрын

I found Header wrap will cause Cracks after a while

@jorgezuni2818 10 ай бұрын

Purpose of wraping it ??

@melanehme3661 Ай бұрын

DEI ... what a regrettable acronym! 🤭😆🤣

@Deesrickchevrolet 7 күн бұрын

The infamous AMC, aka Rambler dog leg ports. Headers, oh my goodness. I've owned my 76 CJ-5 well, forever. Hate hate hate Headers. Do not throw away your stock manifolds, you need to read why dog leg ports, these engines came stroked from the factory. Seriously, wonder why NASCAR hated Rambler. So much the Banned Rambler because they beat All the completion. High nickel blocks , they never wear out. Read up on your AMC see how the built stuff to last.

@Deesrickchevrolet 7 күн бұрын

Everything about these engines, FLOW. If the engineers at Rambler or AMC THOUGHT headers would benefit the engine they'd would have came stock on the engine.

@stephanyRamirez-xx3jl 6 ай бұрын

Let the guy talk / demonstrate 😐

@johndillinger8482 2 жыл бұрын

better check your header's warranty before doing this.

@rolliefoster2837 2 жыл бұрын

...umm, header warranty ? You may need to go play in a different sand box - build, drive, break, repeat - if I cant afford that mentality, then maybe I should take up cross stitch...or competitive cake decorating...but only if they give participation trophies...

@watsisbuttndo829 2 жыл бұрын

I believe Mr Dillinger has a point. I wrapped one set of headers only and will never do it again . Header looked fine where it wasn't wrapped, were it was wrapped it completely pooped its pants, mild steel, looked like it had been used as deck cargo on the exxon valdez. Completely rotted out.

@johndillinger8482 2 жыл бұрын

@@rolliefoster2837 if you repeat doing stupid shit,that's exactly what will happen.

@blackrifle6736 Жыл бұрын

@@watsisbuttndo829 *Mild Steel... Cheers!*

@petermariner6323 9 ай бұрын

Honestly... this is how NOT to wrap headers. No PPE, no pre-measurement, no spray bottle, no mention of coating the headers to prevent rust due to trapped moisture, tape not running up to the plates, and double ties. You don't need double ties! Why not just use zip ties to hold it until you're happy? Also, how about a light coat of clear Exhaust paint afterwards to stop the fibre trying to kill you in 6 months when you need to work in the engine bay again?!

@royfernandez3219 6 ай бұрын

It’s titanium smart one not fiberglass

@joshuadodge7225 5 ай бұрын

I think its both@@royfernandez3219

@maddogbarfog2492 4 ай бұрын

@@royfernandez3219that is what I call an ironic burn!

@ginoasci2876 2 ай бұрын

At 28:05 you mentioned greenish titanium wrap that comes from the eastern part of the world. What brand is that greenish wrap ?

@ginoasci2876 2 ай бұрын

At 28:05 you mentioned greenish titanium wrap that comes from the eastern part of the world. What brand is that greenish wrap ?