Fearful-Avoidants: Breaking The Cycle Of On-Again Off-Again Relationships

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Heidi Priebe

Heidi Priebe

Жыл бұрын

www.heidipriebe.com

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@spencecoin
@spencecoin Жыл бұрын
After watching this, I feel seen for the first time in my life. I also feel so deeply sad for our parents and other generations who didn't get any sort of insight into these sorts of issues and just had to live and deal with them the best way possible without even being able to identify what these issues were.
@lisagill3561
@lisagill3561 Жыл бұрын
THIS
@farojaco
@farojaco Жыл бұрын
@@lisagill3561 true
@mirdy
@mirdy Жыл бұрын
word
@Heyu7her3
@Heyu7her3 Жыл бұрын
I don't know to what extent there were attachment styles in the sense that we know them today. I say this because the socialization of parents and children were different.
@Bilelogist
@Bilelogist Жыл бұрын
This is a sign of empathy on your part. Bravo, I hope you're working through this and healing!
@tanyadepoalo4312
@tanyadepoalo4312 10 ай бұрын
The toll it takes on the partner of a fearful avoidant is also devastating! To have our emotions yo-yoed around like this creates trauma for us too! The on again off again is exhausting and we are always hoping when they come back that it will work “this time”
@jenbodhi1133
@jenbodhi1133 5 ай бұрын
It’s a horrible experience
@marioct130
@marioct130 4 ай бұрын
Yes, the avoidant's behavior translates as cruelty. They absolutely do not recognize the harm that they do.
@colegracia2740
@colegracia2740 4 ай бұрын
As somebody who's put another person through that pain. I'm deeply sorry. I'm so sorry for all the back and forth and all the exhausting nights lying awake in anxiety. If it's any help at all to anybody who's been through that pain I just want to say that I'm striving to change, to be better.
@Therobbijamesshow
@Therobbijamesshow 4 ай бұрын
It’s been an experience. Secure relationships are God sent. I feel for my ex but in the same - I don’t. She continued to text me and blamed me for not giving her space. I don’t like roller coasters, but I will take a real rollercoaster over an emotional roller coaster. Her lack of self esteem was devastating knowing I couldn’t do anything about it.
@zakh7675
@zakh7675 3 ай бұрын
Many of us know the pain we cause but we just can't stop 😔 it's very confusing for us too, and often, clarity only comes after the damage has been done
@bumbro07
@bumbro07 Жыл бұрын
Heidi: Don't try to be friends with your exs! Me: Ok, but what if they broke up with you and you don't understand why and they're the only ones who can answer the questions you have so you can resolve and heal your preoccupied trauma? Later in the video: Heidi: Avoid the belief that the person that hurt you is the only person who can help you heal. Me: GOD DAMN IT!
@NiceNSpicySouth
@NiceNSpicySouth Жыл бұрын
This comment here. I see you ((hugs)) Also, you were hilarious in your delivery.
@hcf555
@hcf555 Жыл бұрын
Haha! I feel you. Much empathy to you. Sucks huh?
@olive4naito
@olive4naito Жыл бұрын
Lol, maybe you're serious but this made me laugh! Would it be safe to assume that if you're the fearful-avoidant type, you might have been also fearfully avoiding analyzing the things that went wrong in the relationship on your own? My ex was probably fearful-avoidant. He told me that he liked me when we barely knew each other and after spending time getting to know him and reciprocating his feelings, he started back peddling saying he didn't believe in titles like "boyfriend and girlfriend" and that he wanted to think of us as balls of energy with no bodies. Then he was comfortable enough to say he loved me probably to make up for all the confusion but it was too early in the relationship. I am the anxious type so I quickly got attached to those words which scared him and he was very often hard to reach especially when I needed him the most. We'd attend a language exchange meet-up together and he'd want us to join separate groups but got mad if I talked to another guy in my group. I once brought sushi for us to eat after the meet-up ended, but he went home without speaking to me so I had to eat it by myself. When he said he wanted space I gave him his space but he'd also complain that he didn't think I cared enough and that was his excuse for dating a friend of mine. I couldn't make head nor tail of him but that was when he was still in his mid to late 20s. I thought for sure that he had forgotten about me after 5 years but he apparently wanted to get married which was probably supposed to fix the problem but instead I lost it and blocked him. I'm sure he's changed a lot since then because he did eventually get married after I cut ties with him. He may not have analyzed what went wrong, but I think there's hope especially if you never did anything that bad. ^_^ And it shouldn't be as complicated to figure out what went wrong.
@lloydyu24
@lloydyu24 Жыл бұрын
What else can you come up with?
@KellyDuke008
@KellyDuke008 Жыл бұрын
Finally a video with practical tips for healing fearful avoidant patterning. I’ve seen myself in these rollercoaster relationships but haven’t really understood the dynamic. Hated myself for running back to critical partners like my alcoholic father was. You’re so right- idk how to set boundaries I need & still feel secure or close in a relationship. I allow too much & eventually snap. Thank you for real world ideas that I can start using to break the cycles!
@disdroid
@disdroid Жыл бұрын
I helped my partner overcome these issues by painting a stable background where she was free to enter or leave whenever she wished and there would be no rejection. Because of this she began responding to therapy, where she found the means to shift her attachment style.
@jessd956
@jessd956 11 ай бұрын
This is hopeful and I am glad for you. Thank you for sharing.
@Shannon_luvscars
@Shannon_luvscars 11 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏽 for being a supportive partner for her. I wished I’d found this video before me and my significant other split… I think this is what he needed from me and I didn’t know 😞
@disdroid
@disdroid 11 ай бұрын
@@Shannon_luvscars I did a lot of research and I was close to mine all our lives but it took until late in life before we settled down
@SowingSeedsWithChristy
@SowingSeedsWithChristy 11 ай бұрын
Such a gift! :)
@Mermaid03_03
@Mermaid03_03 11 ай бұрын
What you mean by no rejection? As I’m taking her back with no judgement?
@kate_kate_kate
@kate_kate_kate Жыл бұрын
"Until you like yourself enough to accept that you're a human being who needs care, support, comfort..." I have never heard the more precise description of what's going on with me and what changes I'm going through.
@sourcingjoy5568
@sourcingjoy5568 5 ай бұрын
where in the video does she say this? Thanks!
@karltan9461
@karltan9461 2 ай бұрын
@@sourcingjoy5568 27:50
@prashanthireddy2333
@prashanthireddy2333 6 күн бұрын
@@sourcingjoy5568 😂
@IdontspeakBro.
@IdontspeakBro. Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I ended a relationship with a girl who behaved this way. Hardest thing I ever did, her compartmentalising is painful to watch. To see someone choose to be absent, to feel like you don’t care and they have this super power where they can leave with no issues. Was all to much for me to bear anymore. Be kind to people everyone.
@gigilamoore2656
@gigilamoore2656 Жыл бұрын
Very sorry. I have this and know the pain that is caused to the non fearful avoidant.
@sakuraesther6309
@sakuraesther6309 Жыл бұрын
On her behalf, I am very sorry
@Marie11e_
@Marie11e_ Жыл бұрын
Can you give an example of how she would compartmentalize?
@alexblazin5478
@alexblazin5478 Жыл бұрын
I dont think we choose to be absent. Everytime we are pressured or feel cornered we withdraw. Until we can get ourselves together and see how we are going to address the ultimatums we are giving. When I left or withdrew it was because I would shut down it takes so much energy to pretend everything is okay and go through the motions when in reality I was scared to death, I was scared to trust, to love to be my real self. I wish people would understand that when we decide to love we love with no conditions it just take a lot of time to get to the point. A lot of people don't have it in them to rock with me at my worst.
@Alize.W
@Alize.W Жыл бұрын
@@alexblazin5478 Saying you don't have a choice is avoiding accountability, which is typical but it's false. You definitely have a choice, you just allow your triggers to control your choices instead of leading them in wise mind. You have free will - you are in control on the choices you make at all times.
@Zefcreates
@Zefcreates Жыл бұрын
I don’t think I care if you see this comment or not, but I seriously and wholeheartedly think that this video is saving my life, my sanity, my personhood. Thank you. I have never felt more seen in my entire life. You may be saving the only positive relationship I have experienced thus far, and I am crying but in a good way. Thank you.
@Virgolove
@Virgolove Жыл бұрын
I care and I'm happy you feel seen❤
@McSwayla
@McSwayla Жыл бұрын
same
@lilyneva
@lilyneva Жыл бұрын
I see you too.
@mhm2957
@mhm2957 11 ай бұрын
how are you now and how's your relationship? i hope everything's going well for you ❤
@trezchil
@trezchil 10 ай бұрын
Wishing you well
@themaggattack
@themaggattack Жыл бұрын
11:07 It's sooooooo true!!!! It explains so much! We weren't allowed boundaries as children, so now we think the only way to get boundaries is to completely escape the whole relationship!
@lurklingX
@lurklingX Жыл бұрын
havent gotten far into vid yet but this comment hit home. i def had that setup. i do on/off with socializing on the whole. people do stuff that's triggering, i take it as long as i can then i shut down and back away as the only way to make it STOP (i.e. weird sort of boundaries? i guess that would be more like the lack thereof, and trying to make one thru pure distance/avoidance.)
@amberv4223
@amberv4223 Жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@amberv4223
@amberv4223 Жыл бұрын
@@lurklingX me too!!
@jessd956
@jessd956 11 ай бұрын
It’s because you’re terrified of intimacy yet you crave it as well.
@NenneN...
@NenneN... Жыл бұрын
Being a fearful avoidant is rough, such messed-up childhoods. I feel like there needs to be C-PTSD support groups like they have for AA etc. I see, hear and validate you all, my comrades in trauma. 💜
@themacocko6311
@themacocko6311 10 ай бұрын
​​​@@jessd956FA's are not "co-defendant"
@CitiesOfAsh
@CitiesOfAsh 9 ай бұрын
It's like we are the villains of the story yet nobody really understands us.
@prod.murmur
@prod.murmur 8 ай бұрын
In my culture (Nigerian) childhood abuse is so normalised that a lot of us probably have CPTSD
@Inezkanal
@Inezkanal 8 ай бұрын
Do you know Crappy childhood fairy? She have groups for us that have cpts
@jake_with_the_BIG_snake
@jake_with_the_BIG_snake 8 ай бұрын
I have CPTSD and go to ACA(adult children of alcoholics) meetings instead of AA. Quite a few people there have CPTSD. That group has helped me a lot. The 12 steps are somewhat adapted from AA to ACA in most groups including mine. They are still flawed imo but still helpful although i wish we used the 12 remade steps from the ACA founder explained here, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gtSnosydsZbVaXk.html there is also a loving parent guidebook which is ACA litterature and the ACA fellowship text(Big Red book) is also very good.
@talesfromtheroad9530
@talesfromtheroad9530 10 ай бұрын
When you mentioned 'friendships where you bring your full authentic self,' it made me realize that however amazing my current friendships are, I don't see them as deep or intimate or as vulnerable as the romantic relationships I've had, because my 'full authentic self' sometimes included sobbing naked in someone's arms over past trauma (of course I would never do with a friend 😂), or showing anger at a partner (I never show anger at friends), or calling and unloading with no filter all my anxieties about work, school etc (I am really careful about dumping on friends and ask first, etc). I need to do a lot of thinking about this... I tend to be my 'full authentic self' only deep into a romantic relationship and sometimes that self is messy and unregulated and honestly probably hard to take care of....but I assume they won't leave and will nurture those sides of me (wrap me up in a burrito blanket lol) because they've committed and love me.... Whereas with friends, I try really hard not to be a burden because I assume they'll back away if I'm too much or hard to care for or dump negativity. So my friendships tend to be positive and steady and has lasted decades whereas my romantic relationships haven't gone more than a year or two. This is making me wonder, do I need to treat my boyfriends with more of the careful respectful distance I treat friends? Or practice sobbing in front of a friend and sharing deeper things or going to them for comfort on a bad day? .....maybe it's a combo. I def allow myself to get to very vulnerable, very deep states with partners and then ask for a lot of soothing there. But if I was on the opposite end of this role, I would find it exhausting. Hmm lots to think about. I feel shame about this topic and vulnerable even sharing this...but thanks for creating a space to share and to anyone reading this for listening!
@kathychrzaszcz2352
@kathychrzaszcz2352 8 ай бұрын
I TOTALLY recommend you read "You are the one you've been waiting for" which is a book about Internal Family Systems and how it connects to intimate relationships. I think it'll help with your situation a lot. It's helped me IMMENSELY!!!!
@shockedpikachuface7376
@shockedpikachuface7376 8 ай бұрын
You literally described my situation perfecfly. Don't feel shame for sharing this, others are going through the same thing you are
@joniczka
@joniczka 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing 🐱
@nattsplat2
@nattsplat2 8 ай бұрын
This perfectly describes my life too. Amazing stable long term friends (20yrs+), and 1-2 year romantic relationships (I've had a lot) where I'm all over the place...it's comforting to know I am not alone, you are definitely not alone in this. I hope we all find the answers and healing we need
@lauraluey
@lauraluey 8 ай бұрын
I relate to so much of what you've written. Thank you for sharing your experience, and putting words to something I feel ❤
@whiggygirl
@whiggygirl 3 ай бұрын
It's so true that all you get told when you go to someone outside of the rship for support, that you just get told "Dump him" "You're worth more than that" and he is slagged off to high-heaven, when half of the issue is with me. It just makes me completely withdraw, and internalise all of my pain and difficulties. Then I tie myself in knots trying to decipher what the actual truth is of what is going on, rather than what my anxiety is saying it is 😢
@maggie1321972
@maggie1321972 Ай бұрын
YES! That is literally the advice 90% of people give.
@nadiaventer3380
@nadiaventer3380 Жыл бұрын
I really feel so sad for fearful avoidant people, it must be so terrible to live like that, but it's also just as tough being on the receiving end, always getting your heart broken by the same person, and never really know why, and I'm someone who will take that person back over and over again in hopes that, maybe this time... I myself have an anxious attachment style, so I stay attached for so long. I wish it was easy for all of us who struggle with insecure attachments to heal our childhood "trauma" but it's so difficult and at times feels completely impossible, no matter how many articles you read or videos you watch. It's really so sad. And not everyone can afford therapy.
@sparkstudies1675
@sparkstudies1675 Жыл бұрын
I don't know what else to offer but a hug. It's rough out there
@TC-ef2pp
@TC-ef2pp Жыл бұрын
I totally get being on the receiving end. I have secure attachment. ( However, struggle with anxiety starting after having children.) Married 23 years and wish so much this was easier. It leaves me heartbroken over and over. I don't know when to throw in the towel on someone I care so much for. I truly want nothing but for him to be happy and whole. With or without me.
@sunbeam9222
@sunbeam9222 Жыл бұрын
I used to feel heartbroken for the longest time. I only managed to heal this , now I say only as if it's nothing lol but it took years and that was making sure ai keep good healthy and ongoing relationship with friends, family, my neighborhood, people in general, making sure I work at a job I like and have great relationship with boss and colleges, make sure I m happy with my body, my home, make sure every aspect of my life is in order, and I take care of me. Also ofc I reprogrammed subconscious mind. I'm ok, others are ok. We're all ok and life is to be accepted and enjoyed just a it is basically and not as ai want it through control ;) I was broken up with not so long ago, someone I love very much, but to my surprise, it didn't hurt anywhere near what I used to feel. This healing stuff really works.
@recovermylife2976
@recovermylife2976 11 ай бұрын
I don't feel bad for those demons they need to be single forever and the people they hurt need life time of love it's wrong to say you love someone and randomly leave them that's a choice
@wisconsinfarmer4742
@wisconsinfarmer4742 10 ай бұрын
Heidi's talk is OK, but she never acknowledges the devastation they perpetrate. My Primary question to the Avoidants is: Do you want to continue a style that sends so many hearts into the dumpster?
@jahnayawashington7919
@jahnayawashington7919 10 ай бұрын
Laying in my bed crying right now. Your videos have cured my lifelong confusion, shame and fear in the few months I’ve been watching you. It hurts so much unpacking this trauma but you make it so much easier to deal with. You are an ANGEL!! Thank you!
@jallisabutler3224
@jallisabutler3224 Жыл бұрын
On top of all that, I feel that because we aren’t able to set boundaries and speak on our feelings is because we don’t want to add on to our trauma. So we continue to be fearful avoidant. It’s so hard to ask for what I need in relationships because it’s like I’m allowing the relationship to go wrong so I have a legitimate reason to go back into hermit mode and not really have to deal with things.
@MildExplosion
@MildExplosion 10 ай бұрын
I've tried to explain this a thousand times: asking for what I need and facing the possibility of hearing a clear "no" is a thousand times scarier than just pretending I don't have needs at all. At least by staying silent, I can numb and distract myself from the pain of not having my needs met instead of looking the pain in the eye.
@ld921
@ld921 9 ай бұрын
@@MildExplosionwhat it is y’all need ? Omg just say it and I can make adjustments, the problem is that y’all not honest
@Retrosenescent
@Retrosenescent Ай бұрын
@@MildExplosionadditionally, sometimes stating my needs feels like a waste of time because I don’t want the other person to change. Instead I’d rather find someone I’m already compatible with
@PiscesSun_Capricornrising
@PiscesSun_Capricornrising Жыл бұрын
My ex was fearful avoidant, but its like he was able to vomit feelings to his friends and family but NOT his lover. The relationship was conflict free but mostly because he was avoiding telling me his needs.
@rizerek
@rizerek Жыл бұрын
I feel like I was turned into a fearful avoidant by a series of bad relationships as a teenager/young adult. I used to be solid as a rock in relationships, but slowly transitioned into the on again off again pattern. And now I can't even get to the point of being on anymore. I love the flirting, early stages. But as soon as my feelings are reciprocated in a way that seems very real, I do a 180 seemingly against my will. And the argument can't even be made that I'm just interested in sex, because I don't even get that far. Sometimes I don't even make it to a first kiss....
@silentsmilez503
@silentsmilez503 Жыл бұрын
I think you are right on track, same here
@Aya-yx6wq
@Aya-yx6wq 11 ай бұрын
Totally feel you.all the excitement of flirting of knowing somebody new.expecting things to be dofferent this time .plus the mystery...once u start to where shit is going u like NEEH
@jordanhealy1606
@jordanhealy1606 Жыл бұрын
This is the best summary of a fearful-avoidant. I’ve struggled relating with many videos describing this attachment style. Heidi, you hit the nail on the head… I tend to favor my autonomy/single hood more than you described, but I do wish to find connection, without enmeshment or being controlled. Finding someone I can trust with being vulnerable is scary because it simultaneously feels so good and so dangerous.
@lurklingX
@lurklingX Жыл бұрын
i feel this on a super deep level. yeah, trust is hard to give, because it can so easily be broken. i think a lot of people don't see it as too important and so breaking trust doesn't mean the same thing to them. plus the plague of anti-empathy that's been rolling around quite a few years now.... so it's like.... you want connection, but you also don't want to get brutalized. part of it is reading the relevant red flags and avoiding people that *should* be avoided. toxic stuuuuuuuuuff. for one, those encounters set ya way back.
@SandraWade666
@SandraWade666 5 ай бұрын
How about just remembering that when trust was broken before, it hurt but you survived it?
@Retrosenescent
@Retrosenescent Ай бұрын
@@SandraWade666that would be pointless because I would also remember that it wasn’t worth it
@CherylCherbear
@CherylCherbear 25 күн бұрын
Thank u for sharing I feel like that alot
@hcf555
@hcf555 Жыл бұрын
Did no contact for pretty much the first time with my last break up. It was fucking horrendously painful and I longed for him and missed him so much, then...started to read about attachment trauma, codependence, enmeshment etc..and watched a ton of stuff on KZfaq (so thankful for such amazing stuff to watch) and realised how traumatised I was and the patterns of my relating. SO painful to process all this and grieve. Fast forward 6 months and I now have no idea what I saw in him! He was totally emotionally unavailable (as was/ am I by having largely unhealed cptsd) and actually pretty mean to me. I'm FA leaning anxious and he was the most DA person I've ever met. Terrible combination. Committed to myself now and learning to relate in healthy ways. No more crumbs from myself or others!
@Virgolove
@Virgolove Жыл бұрын
This is encouraging:)💓I'm happy u are healing
@rahul_bali
@rahul_bali Жыл бұрын
Men can't ever actually move on. Sorry
@dovahduck
@dovahduck Жыл бұрын
I'm literally the guy version of you. Did the other guy ever contact you to try to get back together after the last breakup?
@hcf555
@hcf555 Жыл бұрын
@@dovahduck about 3 months post break-up I contacted him to say I was open to a friendship whenever if he was and left it with him. I thought I meant it at the time. By the time he got in touch a couple of months later I was too far into the trauma research to think it was remotely a good idea! He was pretty enthusiastic with replying to emails, that's all he ever was enthusiastic about anyway, but I just felt no desire to keep in contact, it felt too uncomfortable. I saw how there was zero connection between us, he had no ability to relate on a personal level, was gossipy and mean about literally everyone and I had no idea what I'd previously seen, other than just fantasy. His avoidant ways were really off-putting rather than appealing. I have no idea if he was harbouring any desire to rekindle anything but I didn't wait around to find out. Didn't reply to his last email and there's been nothing since. Thank god he didn't get in touch when I initially offered friendship or I may have got sucked back into something totally wrong for me!
@peacejoy3629
@peacejoy3629 Жыл бұрын
No more crumbs from myself or others. ✨
@angstrom1058
@angstrom1058 Жыл бұрын
I was in a relationship with a person like this. One heck of a painful rollercoaster. I cared a lot for the person, but eventually had to just walk away.
@angstrom1058
@angstrom1058 Жыл бұрын
@@sabiofilosofo1306 Sorry, Sabio. :( But, there's hope. There are about 3.5 billion other choices out there many of which would love to be with you. :)
@abolisher
@abolisher Жыл бұрын
@@sabiofilosofo1306 I feel your pain brother I’ve been there as well just recently but it’s about knowing the world keeps moving. We have to continue forward.
@lightofall
@lightofall Жыл бұрын
Same
@raynaldiinaray6691
@raynaldiinaray6691 Жыл бұрын
Im in the process of walking away from a relationship with a person like this. The chemistry was out of this world, we had our fair share of issues and we tried to work it out. But after more time passes by, the more distant and defensive she acts towards me constantly. I ended up always feeling like shit because every time I speak my mind or try to set boundaries with her, or just to even try and have a mature conversation about our relationship, I will always be at fault. There's never a middle ground, it's just constant blaming of each other. And she asked for time and space again and again and again. Until I hit a wall, and I realized that this is not healthy for me. I love her so much and still do and I tried to accommodate this pattern of behavior and be a safe space to her, hoping she would realize that this is not healthy to grow our relationship. But man, I was sacrificing my own sanity (I also have abandonment and attachment issues that I am working on, so it is very very painful for me to experience people whom I love, is distancing themselves away from me.) It still hurts like hell, I'm taking it one day at a time but good Lord... I feel so worthless from time to time man.
@abolisher
@abolisher Жыл бұрын
@@raynaldiinaray6691 how long was the relationship if you don’t mind me asking also you deserve much better than to be a punching bag from someone who doesn’t love you back the way you love treat yourself first before anyone else from this point on!
@angelasampayo936
@angelasampayo936 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for content regarding this topic because I’m in a push and pull situationship with someone, and I wanted to learn something about them. It turned out it was me all the time :( I would’ve never guessed this. I honestly feel rejected often, even though I’m not being clearly rejected by anyone, but my extreme fear of rejection and abandonment makes me want to avoid the contact with the other person. I now want to apologize to every ex I have 😢
@ireneedmonds4712
@ireneedmonds4712 Жыл бұрын
Same…
@crystalwaters9059
@crystalwaters9059 Жыл бұрын
Same here
@lurklingX
@lurklingX Жыл бұрын
i feel this socially. fear of rejection gets high or triggered in various ways or keeps getting pinged, and eventually i reach a max of what i can deal with and back the f up.
@TheHalusis
@TheHalusis Жыл бұрын
yeah, i lost my best friend/wife then after I met a great gal but kept pushing away, finding reasons to break it off until there were actual reasons. Think i did it like 5 times, i think i feel love for her but i cant do it. ill be a monk now
@bethaneegrace2810
@bethaneegrace2810 Жыл бұрын
It's me, I'm the problem, it's me! Same. I also struggle with ADHD and rejection sensitivity disorder. The fear of rejection makes me crippled. In physical pain of the fear.
@thinkfirst1989
@thinkfirst1989 Жыл бұрын
I'm never ready to go no contact with my partners when the relationship is ending regardless of if I'm kind of the one ending it or not. Once I love someone, I love them forever for the most part. I have built friendships to try to balance my emotional needs, and not solely rely on my partner - but then I fall so in love, or I want to be with that person so much it's hard to maintain other relationships.
@TheDannalover
@TheDannalover Жыл бұрын
What I can tell you is, the person that is left behind can be much more than heart broken. Wish I had understood better the pain my best friend was going through, it could have been life changing for both of us. No contact is a very hard, painfull way of ending what you think of as a long term, beautiful loving relationship.
@taylorsmith4128
@taylorsmith4128 11 ай бұрын
Wow! I do have friendships, but I’ve never felt like I’ve had friends who were emotionally intelligent when it comes to romantic relationships. I am working on expanding my circle to include people who are not just totally traumatized by their families and unable to form healthy partnerships.
@bryceoleski5680
@bryceoleski5680 4 ай бұрын
I just ended a relationship with a fearful avoidant, and it was incredibly painful. One day we were naming our future children, the next she looked at me with disgust. This video clarified a lot of things for me.
@popmaria684
@popmaria684 28 күн бұрын
it's fearful avoidance or bipolarity??
@keddy5627
@keddy5627 Жыл бұрын
I always thought remaining friends with former partners was a sign of maturity but truthfully it is just fear of letting them go completely…! I definitely relate to anxiety IN the relationship. Thank you, Heidi ❤
@aselyne5631
@aselyne5631 5 ай бұрын
Am f.a who knows for a fact staying friends with exes is a hell no, I mean it's common sense
@FruitsChinpoSamuraiG
@FruitsChinpoSamuraiG 5 ай бұрын
honestly it depends on the situation and how it ended. making sure you remain friends even after a toxic relationship is not it, but if you stopped dating after finding out you're just not a match for each other beyond friendship then why the hell not ?
@kayjohns7936
@kayjohns7936 Жыл бұрын
The reason we don't break things off when we know we know we need to is typically because we have abandonment wounds and are extremely codependent. It is EXTREMELY painful to deal with.
@KhalCrochet
@KhalCrochet Жыл бұрын
For the longest time my thought pattern was I don't need them and they don't need me, it couldn't be farther from the truth.
@1icybluedog
@1icybluedog Жыл бұрын
Oh Heidi!!! My ex partner and I watched this video and decided it would be best to try out the 6 months to a year no contact healing journey. We may end up realizing we arent good for each other during that time .. 1 month in and I can feel myself swinging all over the place emotionally. Some days I feel hyper independent, some days I feel like Im drowning in numbing out activities and sometimes I unblock them and hover over the *send* button to a "lets just call this off" text. But im trusting the process. Trusting that being able to show up with boundaries and a community on my side who deeply loves and supports me, will help me find answers for the me who searches for external influences to calm the inner storm. This video changed a lot for me. And Im ready to take my relationship's seriously. Ugh its so hard though lolol the inner drama in LOUD
@AreliiLuna
@AreliiLuna Жыл бұрын
Omg I'm going thru a similar situation 😭 the inner drama is real but I'm willing to do the work, im glad to hear im not the only one 😅we got this 🙌🏽
@ioanacmr
@ioanacmr Жыл бұрын
But aren't you afraid they will find someone else? OR maybe you will. I would be in constant anxiety thinking they might be dating someone else and it all goes to sh*t. Getting back together after deciding to do this together and finding out he slept or dated other people would kinda break my heart.
@1icybluedog
@1icybluedog Жыл бұрын
Honestly the more time goes by the less anxiety I feel about what they are doing. I miss them a lot, but I hope they are developing meaningful relationships to themself and those around them. I wouldnt be upset if they slipped and sought out external reassurance. I feel like in healing, it's important to realize there ARE other options that are healthy out there too. But it's the devoting yourself to coming back to the journey that I am personally hoping for. I did not take time needing for the end result for us to be healthy and better. But for us to both come out on the other side stronger and more in touch with ourselves. You have to be willing to face what comes up on the other side of the unknown. This journey has been helpful to me in choosing me, that is all I choose to focus on. Whats meant for me will align with my secure self esteem and strong boundaries
@josephsilva5464
@josephsilva5464 Жыл бұрын
@@1icybluedog what is the update? I hope you both are doing well :)
@1icybluedog
@1icybluedog Жыл бұрын
Still no contact! I can still deeply feel my cycles of activation and deactivation in my thoughts towards them, which I cannot lie stresses me out. Like some weeks I am so excited about my growth and hopeful for our potential future, and some days Im so upset with them for how the relationship went and swear they are dead to me. (I assume that is a part of healing lol) But I am also able to witness how I activate and deactivate in other areas of my life, like with work, family, friends.. in ways ive never seen before! Which ultimately feels like the goal right. To be able to develop skills of security in all areas of my life? It's nice to not be so consumed by relationship chaos, but I still think of them heavily every day. I have also noticed a layer of grieving come up for old relationships I never faced the discomfort of. Ultimately I feel so much stronger as an individual as I have more respect for my ability to set boundaries and communicate in difficult situations.. but not projecting my insecurities on anyone else and having to face it all without romantic comfort is so uncomfortable. I hope they are navigating the no contact with so much curiosity and love for themself, they deserve the inner peace
@Werksonek
@Werksonek Жыл бұрын
Even though I have probably the most difficult moment ever and still a lot to heal, I'm so proud of my self right now, seeing how couple years passed and that pattern doesn't apply to my life anymore. I can resist urges like that and my relationships are for sure better and more authentic than ever, also the romantic one.
@vixenvalenzuela
@vixenvalenzuela Жыл бұрын
Thats amazing !
@fizahaque
@fizahaque Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy for you. As for me. I’m still healing ❤
@Werksonek
@Werksonek Жыл бұрын
@@fizahaque yeah, I broke up with my partner, we're on good terms and I try to let it go. I'm not going to just jump right back in from the volatile place, it's time to take care of me. 💚💜
@fizahaque
@fizahaque Жыл бұрын
@@Werksonek totally understandable. You got this. ❤️ Best wishes in advance for the next year 🥂
@adriennelatimer2491
@adriennelatimer2491 8 ай бұрын
I have been married to a fearful avoidant man for 27 years. I am traumatized! The cycles made me feel crazy. We didn’t know what was going on and both say it is tragic. I never understood the closeness then the rejection. I have heard him say things about losing himself and didn’t understand why he felt that my “normal” need for closeness would make him feel like I was going to take him over! Ugh
@comoane
@comoane 2 ай бұрын
And now; let’s talk about you……
@_JustEx_
@_JustEx_ Жыл бұрын
I wrote a lot so if you aren’t willing to read it all- I guess I really just want to know how to be there for my wife who has a fearful avoidant attachment-during a separation. I am a recovering anxious attachment person. Recently my wife (fearful avoidant) has decided that we should go our separate ways. Mainly because there was a lot of trauma in my past that I never dealt with that caused me to hurt her in many ways. I feel as though I was the first person she ever completely opened up to, over and over again. But I wasn’t in a place to ever understand her and consistently treat her in the way she needed. I ended up hurting her many times over. During this separation, we have been on a very limited contact situation. We would only talk about our daughter. However, during this separation, I’ve done a LOT of personal growth and through it all, I still feel as though I want to be with her. However, she hasn’t been able to do much work on herself because she hasn’t found a therapist that she likes and has kind of thrown herself into work. I don’t know how intimate her relationships with the other people in her life have gotten. But from what I know about their relationships, it’s never really been as intimate as she’s needed (and that’s before we were going through a separation). She came to visit a while ago and things went GREAT. After the trip, we started talking more and had one really deep conversation. After that, it’s like she ghosted me. I’m willing to fight for this relationship through times like these. But after watching this video I think I realize that she has a lot to figure out on her own. If anyone was brave enough to read all of this, I greatly appreciate it!
@IAmTheQueen87
@IAmTheQueen87 Жыл бұрын
She’s probably scared AF to open up again. Esp to someone who’s hurt her over and over again. And it hurts more when the person who knows you don’t have a lot of ppl to turn to hurts you. It makes you feel like you can never trust them the same cuz now you’re always questioning how real it is or if you’re actually waiting for more hurt to come. There’s always that wall that’s there now. She prob wants to be vulnerable again but can’t because she’s protecting her heart
@suras8984
@suras8984 Жыл бұрын
She def got scared. She (probably) felt what you felt and then her subconscious mind triggered her into going into protective mode since you hurt her so many times. I would send her some Thais Gibson videos on attachment styles about anxious attatchment that explains you very well and say what you learned from it and how learning about your attachment style helped you grow as a person. And maybe she will feel like checking out some of this type of information on her own. If you do pursue with the intention of getting her back you have to becareful not to get triggered yourself as an AA because it will trigger her Dismissive side.
@vida130
@vida130 Жыл бұрын
Exavier I am so sorry that you are going through this. I was the AA and my husband was the FA. We separated and I started to get therapy and learned how to honor my feelings and needs. I worked with Adam Lane Smith to heal my attachment and went from Anxious to Secure. Heal your own wounds and learn how to be in a proper relationship with God, yourself, and others.
@gacem.hassina
@gacem.hassina Жыл бұрын
Give her time , she will come back .…. Fesrful avoidant here .
@Louceee
@Louceee Жыл бұрын
@@gacem.hassina Do they come back if they started a new (potentially rebound-like) relationship? And if they say they love the new person and want to be vulnerable with them (after only 4-8 weeks of going out vs 8 years with me)?
@tylaj19
@tylaj19 Жыл бұрын
Just left a fearful avoidant person! It was in and out, and extremely draining. Even while we were on good terms he would still be distant as if he didn’t want me to get too close. Very guarded among other things. This pattern is toxic and damn near destroys the other person that is simply trying to love and care for you! If you know that you have this attachment style please do not date. Work on healing, get therapy and practice self love. It is not fair to date ppl knowing that your lack of stability and irrational mixed up behavior is going to effect someone else. HEAL!
@frankielyman8769
@frankielyman8769 Жыл бұрын
I went through this a lot. She’s right. Had a lot of neglect as a child from my parents and siblings. You or I can’t victimize ourselves. We have to forgive ourselves, others , focus on who we wan to be and for the next relationship, explain to them that real love is going through the storm , not around it.
@beccf.s.8012
@beccf.s.8012 Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤
@breannaswagerty7075
@breannaswagerty7075 Жыл бұрын
I haven't heard anybody talk about the difficulty in finding people who understand the unique and challenging life path of someone with this style. Thank you for speaking to and validating this aspect.
@bernadettemeade7259
@bernadettemeade7259 Жыл бұрын
This is how I relate in relationships with men. I can be vulnerable with friends no problem. When I start to date a man it's like my brain becomes scrambled and I'm hijacked by intense anxiety attacks, need to end the relationship. Boundaries are difficult as I feel once I've agreed to something there no way back then I'm trapped and I'm climbing the walls with anxiety, can't sleep/ eat and the only way to cope is end the relationship. Yes there's been trauma not awful longterm, I guess enough to have developed these coping strategies which are anything but! In therapy I would say I don't know how to be in a relationship. I have had one very important longterm relationship with an older man who passed away, it was very intense and passionate on both sides, very calm no drama , never felt overwhelmed or trapped. Safe loved, taken care, affection, physically tactile. Since his death when I like a man is available, i don't know what to do with his compliments, interest it feels too much. Yet I feel lonely and do feel incredibly upset emotionally and grieve each time another relationship ends. 😔
@benf1111
@benf1111 Жыл бұрын
I relate to this so much. For so long I felt like the only person who struggled with this.
@anonymouskat6661
@anonymouskat6661 Жыл бұрын
wow guys i also relate. thank you so much for your share
@NewNovemberRain
@NewNovemberRain Жыл бұрын
🎯
@lyndseygolden7546
@lyndseygolden7546 Жыл бұрын
I am going through this, I just recently felt well and solid on my own and then a relationship showed up and I feel these things and like some one just stuck a straw in me and sucked all the work I’ve done for myself back out. It’s very disregulating and the worst time of year for my mental health to manage more things well. Your comment was very relatable I feel unable to talk about it because other people assume it’s great. And instead I suddenly find myself on an emotional rollercoaster without context.
@bernadettemeade7259
@bernadettemeade7259 Жыл бұрын
@@lyndseygolden7546 I feel for you.
@classreductionist
@classreductionist Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks. As a 40+ male I've pretty much never "ended" a relationship with a woman because men have a much more difficult time getting intimacy. However I have VERY VERY OFTEN felt like I'm being smothered and I'm losing my autonomy in relationships and withdrawn to the point where the women break up with me. Sort of like "Quiet Quitting". The demands on my personal time become too great for me to deal with. I just want to be alone and do my hobbies and I feel enormous resentment at the constant demands on my time so I just sort of pull back. THis eventually makes the woman mad and she breaks up with me. The worst part is that this causes me great distress because I didn't actually want the relationship to end. I just wanted more boundaries but I felt (or in my head I KNEW) that asking for boundaries/more free time, etc would make the woman mad and she would break up with me anyway.
@classreductionist
@classreductionist Жыл бұрын
Then I of course push to remain friends with the woman and then one of two things happens: We start sleeping together again and get back together...causing a repeat of the above pattern and making that woman despise me forever. Or 2 - She rebuffs my attempts to sleep with her again and/or dates other men which hurts me emotionally, again, and I get really mad and cut her off despise the fact that I totally did this to myself.
@lindsay3793
@lindsay3793 9 ай бұрын
​@@classreductionistYou are basically my fiance. He's doing all of that, acting like I'm smothering him when I merely want a hug or kiss and to feel connected. He acts like he hates me right now. I don't know wtf to do to fix this, it's maddening. I just want to feel like we're on the same page and connect but because of this, in his head he decided I'm the enemy.
@54Shadowolf
@54Shadowolf 9 ай бұрын
​@lindsay3793 as someone who is exactly like the other guy and is currently trying to heal and become a more in touch with my true self person. The only thing you can do is bring to light that you are aware of their patterns and that you want sit and talk about what's going on in their head so you can have a better understanding of them. They will fight you and kick and scream that nothing is wrong and that you're just overreacting to him(might even say some really hurtful words). But stay firm on the fact that you want to be there for them and you don't want to see them going down a dark path. But also say that you are not going to sacrifice your boundaries to keep them in this push/pull cycle. With being an FA we have this idea that you're going to leave us so why don't we just push you away now so we can feel like "you didn't fire me I quit". And then we will appear again in your life looking for you to be our safe place again when times are rough. I hope this helps you and I hope you have a great day!
@coreyself2983
@coreyself2983 8 ай бұрын
You said you felt that if you mentioned boundaries that they would dump you anyway. So then you didn't actually communicate that? So you withdrew and left them with the emotional distance?
@lindsay3793
@lindsay3793 8 ай бұрын
@@54Shadowolf Thanks for your reply, sorry I didn't see it sooner. He discarded me, broke off our engagement, said all sorts of unnecessary, undeserved hateful things to me. I had to move back in with my parents 😱 All I can do is give him the break up... And suffer. I'm effing crushed. Cannot stop obsessing about him (not that I would let him know that). I didn't do anything crazy, didn't blow up his phone, just went away. I am hurting so bad. 💔💀
@ericagarvey3748
@ericagarvey3748 9 ай бұрын
This helped me to understand a relationship I just experienced. I was so hurt and confused when they ended it abruptly. Watching this helped me feel compassion for them instead of anger, which was not serving me in moving on. Thank you Heidi for helping us all.
@sunbeam9222
@sunbeam9222 9 ай бұрын
Someone who ends up a relationship abruptly is disregulated. We can only feel anger when we're disregulated ourselves. Which is fine. It's then a process to recognise it and regulate again. Then compassion happens.
@justSymiah
@justSymiah Жыл бұрын
I love this , especially the google doc recommendation. Whats been working for me is writing out my feelings , uncensored, for 12 minutes and then burning it. During the writing process , im purging everything I feel , my anger , my sorrow , grief , my anxiety , my yearning, my shame & .. even my expectations for the person… sometimes , memories. Im giving myself closure. Rule of thumb : I don’t re-read it & I don’t focus on writing neatly … and i watch it burn . After this , i feel better . And i repeat it as many times as necessary for me to move past the moment. It’s emotionally vomiting and it feels better to get it out. Its been a few weeks since the breakup and I can’t even find the words to tell my friends … but this is helping me so much
@jessd956
@jessd956 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this remind her. I’ve heard of something like this, but never tried it and I think it could be helpful. I’m glad it’s helping you.
@user-pr7xv2ey4w
@user-pr7xv2ey4w Ай бұрын
Without probably knowing it, you are executing one of the most researched methods of healing journaling! I just heard about it on hubermans podcast. Literally, just write for 15 minutes without taking pen off the paper, no need for writing neatly or rereading it. Great coping and healing tool!
@StephOfTheCity
@StephOfTheCity Жыл бұрын
This is it. I've never felt more seen or had a clearer picture of my exact behaviors than in your video. I am going through this now after going "No Contact" for 10 months and find myself triggered, abandonment wounds showing up. I fully know I selfishly want to apologize to him to absolve myself from the shame of knowing I hurt someone I love. Even though I know it's a bad idea and we should not be together. Working on forgiving myself. Just feels so sad not having this person in my life.
@dariosergevna
@dariosergevna Жыл бұрын
Why do you think it’s selfish- to apologize? Working on the same issue. 1 year and 2 months here, but he’s hurt me a lot. And still hard to forgive myself for running after him, when he gave me breadcrumbs…
@resueah7257
@resueah7257 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile sitting here in limbo waiting on my apology from a dismissive avoidant so I can move on...
@takeyourpowerback6104
@takeyourpowerback6104 Жыл бұрын
I hope all you guys reached out to your ex and apologized. Not in a sense of giving them hope but if accountability for your insecure attachment and what it caused.
@peacejoy3629
@peacejoy3629 Жыл бұрын
@@resueah7257 I was at this exact same situation.. move on drop everything and LEAVE. the questions, what ifs and whys even ur love for him drop everything and set yourself free. A DA will never apologize or care for closure or to clear things out. I did it and I disappeared he thought I would never but I did. left him playing on his own.
@StephOfTheCity
@StephOfTheCity Жыл бұрын
@@sabiofilosofo1306 wow that is exactly how I behaved; cornered, trying to escape, feeling engulfed, to the point of meanness. I do not want to behave that way in future relationships and I am actively going to therapy, reading books, and even trying out Crappy Childhood Fairy CPTSD practices and also not dating. The biggest take away is that I need to forgive myself and take healing trauma slowly. I don't want to get back together with my ex and I decided if we ever run into each other I will apologize then but I am not going to reach out since he was very attached to me and I may honestly hurt more or he could be fully over it and I don't want to "raise the dead" so to speak.
@mariamacedo2008
@mariamacedo2008 Жыл бұрын
We broke up recently (again), I felt like he betrayed me so I blocked him. I was fine until a month after the breakup, when I started really feeling sad but no one to talk to. I have a friend but I am not able to tell them how I really feel. It’s just very difficult to cry in front of anyone. So I do get the urge to call my ex but I always wait until he’s the one calling me. And once he does call, I go back. But not this time, because I watched this video and finally understand why I’m willing to take him back even though he’s not what I deserve. It’s my inner child patterns. Thank you ❤ Would love a video on how to open up to a friend or how to be vulnerable. Why it’s so hard to cry in front of others but we do it when we’re alone.
@salehaxox7381
@salehaxox7381 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly how I am it is such a. Struggle
@rahul_bali
@rahul_bali Жыл бұрын
Crying, I can't even alone. I had to call my ex a few times to cry on call to her, without actually telling her why am I crying
@dovahduck
@dovahduck Жыл бұрын
Did you break it off with him or did he break up with you? I'm in a similar situation.
@emyyyxx
@emyyyxx 8 ай бұрын
are we dating the same guy
@theeladyj
@theeladyj 2 ай бұрын
Relatable
@Clarissa-lm5rj
@Clarissa-lm5rj Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m the fearful avoidant and I just broke up with someone I was talking to and now I want them back. The struggle is real
@ckl5801
@ckl5801 Жыл бұрын
Stay strong and work on generating deep and great self love ❤
@stevet744
@stevet744 Жыл бұрын
What’s so wrong with going back if it was a good relationship?
@instagamrr
@instagamrr 2 ай бұрын
Wowwwwww. I’ve been studying about being an FA for about a year now, and this just taught me so much I hadn’t realized - including running back to the same people who hurt me to feel better. I couldn’t figure out why I was doing that, I felt like an abused dog running back to its owner and unable to control myself. I’ve literally used that exact analogy to explain it before. Thank you so much for all this insight!
@kaylatheholisticmuse
@kaylatheholisticmuse 11 ай бұрын
Wow, I used to think I was anxiously attached. But I now see I’ve swung to the other end of the spectrum because this is what I’ve been going through. Thank you so much for this insightful video. I was thinking I needed to break up with my partner because I’ve been feeling so overwhelmed. But I’m truly lacking the proper boundaries.
@kcurby
@kcurby Жыл бұрын
Really brilliant stuff. Logically I see/understand why I do what I do, but emotionally I almost have no control over my own feelings. Sometimes it's like I'm on the inside looking out trying to mother an unruly child. My intentions are never bad but I still hurt other people and myself. Loneliness is like a sickness. Thank you for shining a light on this subject.
@CourierSix9
@CourierSix9 6 ай бұрын
I’m a recovering fearful avoidant, I leave relationships or put up walls from fear of being rejected by the people I love or when I have failed or have a sense that I let them down. I’m so hard on myself I’m convinced they are better off not dealing with me. I’m learning to deal with my flaws and become better for me and my very loving and patient partner. All I can do is be the best person I thrive to become, learn to trust and forgive myself.
@disdroid
@disdroid 6 ай бұрын
great that you are making a recovery! my partner and I went though this together. we had a therapist who explained to us about "inner child work" and how to achieve a "reconnection". the treatment went in stages, finishing with her shift in attachment style. after this we became an ordinary couple, and blissfully happy. Best wishes for your recovery!
@saintultra2737
@saintultra2737 6 ай бұрын
In the most respectful way possible, stay away from relationships until you can break the habit of mistreating or neglecting your partners. It’s not fun dealing with Fearful-Avoidant BS.
@disdroid
@disdroid 6 ай бұрын
@@saintultra2737 my partners therapy involved her stepping back from the relationship and facing her own inner needs, but to do this she needed to feel secure in a relationship to give her the courage to turn around and look inwardly. on top of this she had neurological issues - curing the BPD didn't cure her behaviour entirely, but it did make it more manageable and stopped her going into a downward spiral. in her case the behaviour was a contributing factor to the psychological disturbance. we had the advantage of having been extremely close throughout our childhood and whilst we grew up so there was no need to break the ice, and we had several attempts at a relationship before finally settling down aged about 50.
@CourierSix9
@CourierSix9 5 ай бұрын
@@saintultra2737 don’t worry we broke up on new years. Currently working on myself. I miss them but I’m to much at the moment. I’m learning and I’m realizing my flaws.
@susannahpearethcan5ing
@susannahpearethcan5ing Жыл бұрын
It’s a nightmare being on the receiving end of this
@Jnicho04
@Jnicho04 Жыл бұрын
I wish my Fearful-Avoidant Ex would watch this video and actually try to do the work to get back to where she could be a stable partner. Thank you Heidi, I appreciate you.
@marekin8024
@marekin8024 Жыл бұрын
What I have realized about the fearful avoidant. We generally don't feel like we're the problem🥲
@kushan_tk
@kushan_tk Жыл бұрын
​@@marekin8024yup. My ex genuinely didn't feel like she did anything wrong
@jessicar5314
@jessicar5314 10 ай бұрын
Would it backfire to send an avoidant, that doesn't realize they're an avoidant, one of these videos?? Would it be a relief of understanding why things are the way they are for them? Or would it makes them feel worse about themselves? Or offended? 😔 I just want to help.
@FigureOnAStick
@FigureOnAStick 5 ай бұрын
​@@jessicar5314 general rule of thumb is that sending self-help resources to people uninvited is bad. Even if you do it from a place of genuine kindness and loving support, if they don't want it it'll feel controlling or manipulative. You can't heal other people, you can only ever help them heal themselves
@175dell
@175dell Жыл бұрын
This video describes my GF. 😔 I love her so much. She broke my heart, only to get back with me a week later and apologized. I genuinely want to help her but she has to want it and has to be aware of her tendencies. I give her space when she wants it and give her love when she's feeling like being close. Ultimately she needs to get help, I just know where I fit into the equation. I want what's best for her, I just hope there's a way I can be with her in a healthy relationship.
@5747589
@5747589 Жыл бұрын
My ex who was a complete avoidant studied psychology in college yet still believed whole heartedly that she was secure. That she had no issues, I was the only one that had major issues.. even someone saying that goes to show the amount of self awareness they have .. what to do if someone you care about doesn’t even accept they need to grow, if they believe they’ve already done their growing. She was sooo defensive and always spoke from a place of ego, she had the potential to spread kindness but due to her ego, she hurt me A LOT. There was a lot of making me question my sanity. She even said “i have dementia”. She was hypocritical, she would bring up that one thing I did years ago that “completely shattered” her trust but when I try to reference something that hurt me last week that she did, she would say it’s in the past. It was an absolutely exhausting relationship. I developed panic attacks and would have vivid nightmares every night. and i was in denial for most of it as I’m anxious attachment style.. i bawled and considered even ending my life after she broke up with me over text after 4 years with nothing for me to hold on to, no explanation, no “let’s talk it in person”. I moved on for the most part in 6 days thanks to my amazing circle of faithful friends who I had isolated myself from while in a relationship. But they came through for me, reminding me I wasn’t too much, I wasn’t a burden, I wasn’t terrible like she always made me feel..
@lurklingX
@lurklingX Жыл бұрын
just fyi, there are good people who enter that field, but it also pulls in a ton of disordered people. i'm into psychology but decided not to pursue the field. my ex also is interested, and later did, but full blown borderline personality disorder (and suspected narcissistic PD.).... she shared a lot of the things you describe here about your ex. it sounds like she might have had one or both of those as the traits are SUPER common. gaslighting, conflict *escalation* instead of resolution, the appearing lack of self awareness, hypocrisy. what you went through is one of the hardest thing a person CAN go through in a relationship. it's shattering. you probably still carry trauma from it. hell, a mutual friend of ours who is now solely my good friend, even 10yrs later is some ptsd. it's just.... a lot. all of it. something you may find helpful is the reddit threads for partners of BPD or Narcs.... people relay experiences they are currently in or ones they HAD been in. seeing that you aren't alone, understanding it's NOT you, it's them, and will happen to whomever they are close to.... it can give you perspective. it all makes perfect sense when you realize there might be specific disorders involved and you can stop "making sense of it" by blaming yourself.
@pugjuice8462
@pugjuice8462 Жыл бұрын
@@lurklingX Not at all meant as an offense, but this reply itself sounds like it came from a place of ego. The original comment is focused on how horrid the ex was - whether or not the ex had mental issues is beside the point because even IF she didn't have mental issues she'd still have been acting like a manipulative ass. Because those with neurotypical brains and non-traumatic childhoods can behave like assholes either way. In addition, those who consistently work on themselves despite mental issues have far greater potential to be secure rather than those who condemn anyone with mental issues solely for not having been born into a safe childhood/having a neurotypical brain. There is a false idea that having mental issues cannot be recovered from nor can said people be reasonable. This idea makes it difficult for people with mental issues to find resources that would help subdue any disordered patterns of cognition, due to the world at large believing that they're a hopeless cause. It can be a cycle that leads to harm for any side involved.
@pugjuice8462
@pugjuice8462 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you've been through that, it's great news how you have support to turn to. Her actions are reminiscent of gaslighting techniques.
@lurklingX
@lurklingX Жыл бұрын
@@pugjuice8462 sounds more like you just got triggered. you also read a lot into what i was saying. anyone who works on themselves will be stronger. and yes, neurotypical AND not can both act like @ssholes. i also find it hilarious you are making assumptions as to whether i am neurotypical or not. (i'm not) i won't apologize for mentioning mental illness as a potential factor to be cognizant of, as i think it plays part in a greater number of relationships than people realize. that's not a condemning of people with mental issues - which is how you seemed to take it and why i said you seemed triggered. perhaps you are unaware of the absolute AGONY of being in a relationship with untreated mental illness and everything gets chaotic and nonsensical and you are constantly second-guessing yourself or being gaslit? so whatever. ego? pfft. i think some of these rships can actually be saved, with awareness, treatment, therapy. and awareness and therapy would be great for EVERYONE. but go ahead and create a narrative about me to suit yourself, i guess. 🤷
@dariosergevna
@dariosergevna Жыл бұрын
@@lurklingX People with any diagnosis are really different, please don't put a stigma on a diagnosis. those who decides to search for help are already pretty aware people that care for themselves and others. it doesn't help to stigmatize things. toxic people are unaware people that don't care, I know people with BPD who really work on themselves.
@luyandaketelo
@luyandaketelo 10 ай бұрын
This is so much gold, I can feel my heart weeping a little cause everything I’ve felt is suddenly making sense 🥺
@whitneybobitney
@whitneybobitney 11 ай бұрын
This video made me feel so understood! I have thought I must be asexual yet I am attracted to people, maybe some weird stranger kink yet I have horrible social anxiety, maybe just a flat out narcissist who love bombs and leaves people in the dust when convenient yet I deeply care about my kids and loved ones. No explanation ever fully encompassed my behavior with men. I was just going over with my sponsor that I feel actual DISGUST once I get close to a guy I am dating and I don't know what's wrong with me. Thank you SOOOOO SO much for this video, it finally described me perfectly when nothing else made sense
@ALT3REDB3AST
@ALT3REDB3AST Жыл бұрын
This sucks cause you dont really know you have issues until you're in a relationship that exposes that you do! I just want to be happy. Learing and seeking therapy.😪
@sumirei001
@sumirei001 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Heidi for humanizing the avoidant experience. I’m familiar with my own avoidant attachment style and have made progress on it over the years, but hearing someone actually describe it from the inside really helps to lessen the pressure and the burden of needing to change, and helps me feel less alone.
@annecameron3107
@annecameron3107 Жыл бұрын
I had never realized how fearful-avoidant I actually was before watching this. It's a nice feeling to be seen, and it's a great feeling to see I'm already doing so much to heal, and a lot of the advice I already kinda figured out naturally, hoping the unintegrated stuff will help out in the current storm. Here's hoping I can navigate this storm a bit more steadily. Thank you so much Heidi for sharing this.
@JeanneHidalgo
@JeanneHidalgo 2 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh. I’m almost 60 and have been struggling since my divorce with 3 long term relationships where I showed up as a fearful avoidant. Thank you for the language and insights that I will use on my journey of healing. ❤
@jenean7374
@jenean7374 Жыл бұрын
This was incredibly clear, such a depth of understanding and helpful.
@soonsims
@soonsims Жыл бұрын
My ex was avoidant and that traumatized me very much throughout our fights especially since I am anxious attachment. He always put the blame on me for me wanting time together and assurance but he never realized his behavior is unhealthy and never acknowledge that the way he treated me was not ok. Now after we break up I'm trying to heal and move on and he keeps texting me "how are you" messages. It's very annoying I want him to leave me alone and stop messing with me. These people are the absolute worst for anxious attachment people.
@artisticagi
@artisticagi Жыл бұрын
The best advice I ever got from a good friend was to block my abusive ex on all platforms-that and having a friend to talk to helped me finally move on
@JDMSakura
@JDMSakura Жыл бұрын
I'm in the exact same situation right now, my fearful avoidant (3 year relationship, dumped me over 10 times, yes I'm stupid lol) left me 8 months ago by text then instantly ghosted and blocked me, I couldn't even respond, he got into a rebound just a few weeks after. He unblocked and reached out last month because him and his rebound had an argument, he came back all apologetic, desperate to be my 'friend', kept messaging me, then out of the blue ghosted and blocked me again last week for seemingly no reason, we were just small talking. Now I'm heart broken all over again. I wish I hadn't of been so kind and forgiving now, he's living his best life with another woman thinking he didn't hurt me and I'm a mess, lesson learned. I wish I could forget him. 😣
@Virgolove
@Virgolove Жыл бұрын
Mines pretty similar...are you ok...❤
@angelawhite3769
@angelawhite3769 Жыл бұрын
he’s a narc i’ve dealt with this too
@rahul_bali
@rahul_bali Жыл бұрын
I am that guy, I did that. However, she cheated on me and then lied about it. I don't like these kind of women who can't admit their doings, I had an understanding with her. Mind you, women are too clingy like, I couldn't talk to my friends on phone without having 10 missed calla from her. So, it goes both ways. You get some you lose some.
@vishasaili7431
@vishasaili7431 Жыл бұрын
This is the best way someone ever explained this ❤ thank you so much.
@teylergang
@teylergang Жыл бұрын
You have no idea how much this has helped me. Thank you so much for making this video!
@SetDecRadio
@SetDecRadio Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the clarity your channel provides me. You are appreciated!
@deinotarius8806
@deinotarius8806 Жыл бұрын
Around the exact date this video came out I just went through a breakup with someone I'm deeply in love with who (unfortunately I realized too late after the fact) shows this pattern. On my part, up to this point I had managed to keep my own opposite anxiety more or less under control until I went a bit too overboard one evening (I panicked) and she shut me completely out. I realized I was powerless and the only thing I could do is leave her completely alone. I have been cykling from intense heartache and back again to a strange reassurance that she will open her heart again the way she did from the start. Watching this explained from the inside out is really helpful, but also somewhat frustrating. I mean, there's part of me screaming out "Come on! Why does it need to be so complicated!?". Of course I know why. We all have our scars on the soul, some more than others. These explanations really help me be even more empathetic towards her, and also even more patient. I did send her a nice hand-written letter on nice paper and expressing lots of tender feelings and thoughts to wrap things up a bit yet leaving them also open. A kind of half goodbye standing in an open doorway. Part of me hopes she'll be reminded of how well I treated and supported her and maybe we'll have another shot. I just really hope we can fix this again, because I think the world of her. 😥
@1337Tempest
@1337Tempest Жыл бұрын
I could have written this exactly. It's difficult being split between trying to move on and holding hope for a possibility of mending things. Looking for answers about what went wrong. These kinds of problems are fixable, but only if both people are aware and willing. And if not, we must respect that. Either way, it can be used as an opportunity to grow and be wiser in the future.
@1337Tempest
@1337Tempest Жыл бұрын
@@sabiofilosofo1306 sorry you went through that and good on you for doing what's best.
@sinisterkitty8411
@sinisterkitty8411 Жыл бұрын
I want to tell you that sometimes the more "good" and reassuring the partner is, the more we run. We run because we think we don't deserve you, because we know we will ultimately hurt you, because we can't live up to who you are or what you are offering us...
@theRagingFeminist
@theRagingFeminist Жыл бұрын
@@sinisterkitty8411 thank you so much for this.
@Jessilavender
@Jessilavender Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your own vulnerability, it really really helps 🙏❤️
@jontyscho
@jontyscho Жыл бұрын
This is incredible. So glad you popped up on my suggestions. Really connects a lot of dots for me. Sincere, insightful.
@dee0731
@dee0731 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I needed to hear, an answer to my prayers 🙌🏻
@cdgarcia
@cdgarcia Жыл бұрын
Your words and the care you convey in this video is soothing to my soul thank you! You give me hope that I can heal
@aprilderome6270
@aprilderome6270 Жыл бұрын
I can't thank you enough. You answered questions I've been searching for for 3 years. I'm in awe at how my life just changed in a matter of 30 minutes. Thank you
@MonaLisaFaceMusic
@MonaLisaFaceMusic Жыл бұрын
This is such a good video thank you. Probably the best explanation of FA and best advice on the internet I’ve seen in years .
@leahd7283
@leahd7283 Жыл бұрын
This nails it on the head better than any other video I’ve watched. Thanks so much for verbalizing my feelings exactly.
@ellenpurce4536
@ellenpurce4536 Жыл бұрын
Hey :) I only found this channel the other day but everything you say resonates so much (almost painfully so), you have brought a lot of clarity to things I have been working on for the past few years. The tools you suggest have just brought a new level of understanding and empowerment to me already. Thank you for putting these resources out there for people to use
@bclarkkent06
@bclarkkent06 Жыл бұрын
I had to write down pretty much every single word of yours-- uncanny how accurate it is of the relationship I just got out of (me being the more anxious & Him the fearful avoidant). So many good insights that help me understand better. Thank you for sharing!
@jbreezy5959
@jbreezy5959 Жыл бұрын
💜, Bless you Heidi, I so get it. Thanks for sharing for so many of us who resonate 😘💜
@egonisnoise
@egonisnoise Жыл бұрын
Heidi you are amazing! Every single video of yours is a gold mine
@centerforinnerpeace2919
@centerforinnerpeace2919 Жыл бұрын
This blew my head apart and allowed me to see how trauma bonding controls so many lives. Thank you for stepping outside your comfort zone to bring awareness and inner peace to others. Bravo!
@melanamims2622
@melanamims2622 Жыл бұрын
Wow this has hit me in a lot of ways. The man I loved asked why I wouldn't open up....why I acted like I was just to cool for it all. I wondered too but I thought it was just me. Now I see IT IS dysfunction. I have early childhood trauma but I thought I dealt with it. I have lots of friends but grew up far from family. I always want to reach out to my ex but I don't have anything to say. It's for comfort which is selfish so I'm trying to stop....and I'm afraid to try with him again bc I don't have the skills to deal with the things he does that trigger me. Thank you for this video and speaking as an actual avoidant.
@Em-hm9qt
@Em-hm9qt Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience with us Heidi ❤
@leannekerber3045
@leannekerber3045 Жыл бұрын
I think you're wonderful! Keep sharing you're doing good work for a lot of people.
@TwoBlackRings
@TwoBlackRings Жыл бұрын
So, from the sincerest, most inspired place possible: This video is a true eye-opener. There is so much insight here. And, Heidi, your candid presentation and honesty is really encouraging.
@toriambrr
@toriambrr Жыл бұрын
i majored in psychology in college and videos like this remind me of that passion i had for it since i was 15. i’ve always been aware of my trauma before i even knew what trauma was, and to this day it’s still so exciting to learn about. great video! thank you 😊
@CC-pj8ko
@CC-pj8ko Жыл бұрын
Wow! Trying to find comfort out of your relationship hit the nail on the head! Thank you
@gococo.xoxoxo
@gococo.xoxoxo Ай бұрын
I can’t thank you enough for making this video.
@mikea6289
@mikea6289 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for making his video. I am in my late 20s and have had the same pattern with several of my exes of repeatedly initiating breakups with them only to get back together not too long after. I decided a few months ago to take a year off from dating to figure out what my issues are. I related to not all, but a lot of this video, and it gave me some further insight into myself and affirmation of some of my chosen healing strategies.
@roeadam
@roeadam 9 ай бұрын
Your videos have a way making me feel seen, devastated, and hopeful all at once. I have spent my entire life in the military. Stoicism is the emotional language, until it can’t be anymore and the anxious side blows up everything. I am working through this and your videos are a huge help. Thank you.
@gregorybowden4460
@gregorybowden4460 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. The entire thing resonated & gives me fresh insight that some people DO know exactly what it's like to go thru childhood trama. Thank you! 🙏
@julianelucasdesantana9000
@julianelucasdesantana9000 Жыл бұрын
Just perfect! Love the journaling technique for procesing emotions.
@rebeccasanti4777
@rebeccasanti4777 Жыл бұрын
This is a total gem. Never know I'm a fearful avoidant until I'm listening to you, Heidi. Thanks for shedding light on this, especially to be brave to embrace uncomfortable feeling and grieving a relationship.
@amyblack5773
@amyblack5773 Жыл бұрын
Wow!!! This was Amazing! Best podcast I’ve ever listened to! I resonated with everything you said so deeply! I’m in so much pain right now after the breakup and all I want to do is go back- but then when I go back it’s great for awhile then I feel smothered and it ends then the cycle repeats!!! You are fantastic! Thank you!❤️
@sarahhutchinson90
@sarahhutchinson90 5 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness Your content is life giving!! Thank you for all you do! I’m a fan for life.
@sara-dx3ix
@sara-dx3ix Жыл бұрын
Heidi your video delivery was fluid, articulate and psycholically insightful. Thanks.
@saracoronalcsw7033
@saracoronalcsw7033 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Heidi. You described my experience so accurately. I cried while watching this, but I guess that just means I am learning to grieve :) This was a wonderful reminder that I need to get myself more comfortable with vulnerability in my friend group. Its haaaaarrrdddd but necessary.
@annab3644
@annab3644 Жыл бұрын
I just want to say that I feel so validated by your explanations and your insights, it's a giant relief to know that my behaviors and fears aren't my fault. I feel bad for hurting the person I love so I don't want to be in a relationship with them, but it also hurts so fucking much to let them go. I hope that I can get better in the future and be able to be with the person I love without causing them confusion and pain.
@denishabernard7537
@denishabernard7537 Жыл бұрын
By far the most helpful video I have ever watched. Thankyou.
@Lostinstereo6
@Lostinstereo6 Жыл бұрын
Wow! I just discovered your channel and everything you said in this video resonated so much with my experience! It also comforted me in knowing that I am on the right track in healing and breaking this cycle within myself. This video this so wholesome and your delivery is beautiful!
@vikingvitality
@vikingvitality Жыл бұрын
This is the second video on fearful-avoidant that I've watched just today and I'm exhausted from the emotional process. It's all true. So grateful this is here to take in and allow to simmer. And to know it's not just me. Excited for more videos.
@kaitlynfoxpatreon
@kaitlynfoxpatreon 11 ай бұрын
Heidi, that part at the end about how you are able to talk about this on a KZfaq channel now and about how it will feel like going through hell... wow. Thank you thank you thank you for doing this 🩷
@Inprogress_of_newbeginings
@Inprogress_of_newbeginings 6 ай бұрын
You did it again Heidi 👏🏽 🙌🏾. I wish you nothing but the best
@sarahconnor3208
@sarahconnor3208 6 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤ this is my favorite channel
@aliseoliver3537
@aliseoliver3537 Жыл бұрын
Wow. I knew I was avoidant but never realized that actually I"m fearful-avoidant. This video has described to a "t" my 13 year on-again-off-again relationship. And many relationships before that one. I"m just stunned by this video. Thank you so much for your guidance on how to heal and get out of this pattern. You are literally saving my life. Thank you.
@LesleySASMR
@LesleySASMR Жыл бұрын
I was interested in learning about attachment theory for years and have read many books about it. I'm just learning that I'm a fearful avoidant with an anxious lean. It's the most frustrating thing I've ever had to deal with. Thank you for your videos on this subject. I feel so understood finally.
@jacynjames
@jacynjames 9 ай бұрын
What a blessing you are. Thank you. 🙏🏻🙏🏻 so much of this resonates and provides clarity.
@thatkatt_
@thatkatt_ 10 ай бұрын
This video was put in my path at the exact time I needed it. I appreciate you for the raw, vulnerable, and informative perspective you gave us. Life changing video. Thank you so much
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