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@k.c.m5366
@k.c.m5366 3 жыл бұрын
Last year I was a total loser with poor arrow flight and a non existent sex life. Now after following RF’s guidance, I get perfect arrow flight, bust through scapulas, make better money at work, and consistently land smokeshows. Thanks RF!!!!
@moneyandtimefreedom3352
@moneyandtimefreedom3352 3 жыл бұрын
😂🤣 and they all got huge tits too.
@southboundeightyone4958
@southboundeightyone4958 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, it checks out, RF is the sh@T !!
@jonsalt3241
@jonsalt3241 3 жыл бұрын
God Bless You good sir!
@ericauthement7672
@ericauthement7672 3 жыл бұрын
Big racks all the way around!
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
That’s my list of perfection.
@cattman2012ify
@cattman2012ify 3 жыл бұрын
Took my time with the ranch fairy youtube videos and taken everything in on building my 570 grain arrow with the magnus broadhead, I've taken 2 does and 1 buck with the SAME ARROW and BROADHEAD all I've done everytime is sharpen up the blade. Blowing through each one sticking in the dirt at least 6 inches. THANK YOU RANCH FAIRY!!!!!!
@bloodbushcraft2467
@bloodbushcraft2467 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't go 20
@mikemehevic5292
@mikemehevic5292 3 жыл бұрын
@@bloodbushcraft2467 #loins
@nicetryb0z0
@nicetryb0z0 2 жыл бұрын
Oh that's nasty
@mikemehevic5292
@mikemehevic5292 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicetryb0z0 you tell me
@nicetryb0z0
@nicetryb0z0 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikemehevic5292 she came in solo, the Loin Ranger
@richarddean3154
@richarddean3154 3 жыл бұрын
A hundred years ago, I was in the Army. We used "adult" projectiles like the Armor-Piercing, Fin- STABILIZED, Discarding Sabot - Tracer. We were instructed that once a projectile's length exceeds its diameter by a certain amount, rifling is less effective than something akin to fletching (fins). Arrows are spin-stabilized more effectively by helical fletching than straight fletching. "Spin-Stabilized" might make a good t-shirt. Thank you for your great content
@ernestluedke3927
@ernestluedke3927 3 жыл бұрын
Good point from a 19K!
@whunt5533
@whunt5533 3 жыл бұрын
Fairy!!!!!!!!! I love the fact you are strait up commonsense yet you still use science. Strait gold brother.
@fluffy3600
@fluffy3600 3 жыл бұрын
Followed the RF process for a set of six crossbow bolts. 540 grains, 25% FOC, & hand sharpened Magnus Black Hornets and Buzz Cut Stingers. Have shot one buck and four does (Tennessee and Illinois). Complete pass throughs except for one doe. Doe was quartering to me and I aimed at the "vital V". As I shot, she spun toward me and dropped, the bolt hit her in the neck, went completely across her body and almost exited on the opposite side by her rear ham. Found the bolt on the ground about 25 yards from where I shot her and found her piled up 25 yards from there. A plan "B" bolt that did its job! Absolutely impressed with the bolts, arrow flight, penetration, and the broadheads. Adult arrows aren't just for compounds or recurves.
@jordanbrillowski2571
@jordanbrillowski2571 3 жыл бұрын
How much weight do you have up front with the broadhead and insert/outsert?
@fluffy3600
@fluffy3600 3 жыл бұрын
@@jordanbrillowski2571 335 Grains: 200 Grain Ethics Archery Insert + 125 Grain Magnus Black Hornet or 185 Grain Ethics Archery Insert + 150 Grain Magnus Stinger Buzzcut. I took the 200 Grain inserts and used a shop grinder to grind off 15 Grains of material to make the 185 Grain inserts. With COVID-19, I was having a hard time finding broadheads and was only able to get a few of the Black Hornets and Stinger Buzzcuts, so I set up six bolts for the Black Hornets and six for the Stinger Buzzcuts. Because both combos are 335 Grains up front and each arrow was tuned using the RF method, I can shoot either broadhead and don't have to make any adjustment to my scope. Below is my current set up: Excalibur Matrix 380 Black Eagle Executioner Bolts (18" Long @ 9.1 GPI) Ethics Archery Clean Cut Adjustable Static Inserts (.300) - These have "cut notches", so you can cut & grind to weight needed Lumenok "GTF" (28 Grains Each) 2.1" Q2i Fusion II Vanes (3 Vanes @ 7.5 Grains Each) Used AAE Epoxy for the Inserts and Loctite Gel Control Super Glue for the Vanes
@colfaxmingo
@colfaxmingo 3 жыл бұрын
Trust the fairy wisdom! After so many arrow builds, I indexed, tuned, & used helical feathers this season. Best arrows I've ever made, field point or Cutthroat! Thanks Ranch!!
@regularguy8110
@regularguy8110 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Only reason U.S. Army tanks use fin stabilized rounds with a smooth bore cannon is because at stupid fast meters per second the rifling gets worn out quickly. Precision weapons spin projectiles for accuracy.
@jameshagerman7681
@jameshagerman7681 3 жыл бұрын
I've tried for years to tell my compound friends that helical helps. I run 4 fletch right helical for my hunting arrows and 3 fletch helical for my target rigs. Started using the 2.5 inch bohning heat vanes this year after using blazers or duravanes my entire time shooting. Really liking them so far and they are much quieter than the blazers.
@stick__shooter
@stick__shooter 3 жыл бұрын
I shot groups at 60 yards using a 200 grain cutthroat comparing a very slight helical to a heavy helical from a EZ Fletch Mini Max using 3” Q2i Griff-X vanes and the heavy helical won hands down. Best 6 arrow group was 3.5” at 60 yards. 525 grains 18.5% FOC
@johnschmit9903
@johnschmit9903 3 жыл бұрын
More great information!! Finally got to use my adult arrows 593 grains, on my first doe 20 yards talk about crazy I thought I missed, nope she went maybe 70 yards and fell over. Can't say thanks enough what a game changer!! 👏👏👏
@frag1313
@frag1313 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen many videos from this years public hunters thinking they missed and when slowed down, the pass through was that fast. Can’t wait to get mine setup this week
@johnschmit9903
@johnschmit9903 3 жыл бұрын
@@frag1313 it does take alot of time to set up but well worth the wait!!! I use the Black hornet ser razor's 100 grains . Broke the one rib on one side and cracked the other one on the other side. Good luck with your setup!!👍
@frag1313
@frag1313 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnschmit9903 thanks man and this setup seems to be passing through everything it touches
@PostalBound
@PostalBound 3 жыл бұрын
Slogan for merch: "Ask me about Adult Arrows"
@brandonjohnson5338
@brandonjohnson5338 3 жыл бұрын
Added Helical to my arrows this year after the tuning process. Best flight and groupings I’ve ever had. It works! Oh and picked up one of your shirts. Good stuff!
@B_A_Images
@B_A_Images 3 жыл бұрын
Do you also offset fletching when using a helical set up (clamp)? If so which way? Bow spins left, I tried a left helical straight and with left offset. The left offset helical seems to knuckle ball.
@jasonwandling4203
@jasonwandling4203 3 жыл бұрын
I switched to a 3” parabolic right wing this year. I used a straight clamp with a 3 degree (I think) offset. They are flying great. I did notice that a couple of the arrows in my set spin way more than the others. The arrows that spin more always group tighter together than the other 5-6 arrows in the batch.
@Bartimusblue27
@Bartimusblue27 2 жыл бұрын
What’s happening is that the arrows that spin faster off your bow want to spin in that direction, the others are trying to go the other way, causing them to stall off the bow. Take one and mirror your fletch job on it, ill bet it will fly like the others. It works for me, i try to determine spin when knock tuning, and i dont give a 💩 about matching left/right wing to bevel and everything flies great.
@ericwiitala5407
@ericwiitala5407 3 жыл бұрын
Most educational content on arrow physics. Started my process the end of the summer, was able to add 50 gr and increase my FOC a little... This year will be the year of the "Process". We'll see what happens and what I end up with. 🏹
@danmarzano4180
@danmarzano4180 3 жыл бұрын
Paradox with a bow shot with a mechanical release will be on a vertical plane, shot with fingers it will be on a horizontal plane and much more influence on the arrow!
@Kurtdog63
@Kurtdog63 3 жыл бұрын
Fred Bear described helical as a curl in the fletching. Another wonderful side affect is a thicker profile of the fletching from the rear, giving the shooter a better chance at following the path of the arrow as it travels to the target. I use the EZ fletch fletcher (glues 3 feathers at the same time) 4 degree offset with 4 inch feathers. Fluorescent chartreuse is highly visible even in low light. White, or yellow is also good, but nothing beats fluorescent chartreuse in my testing. Keep rockin it Troy. Hopefully more lethal converts to come.
@JohnNeedham-zk5ms
@JohnNeedham-zk5ms 7 ай бұрын
I like how he dumbs down dynamic spine and doesn’t say if your string twist this way it will automatically spin the arrow that way cause I thought u could take to the bank but not the case
@Dark30Outdoors
@Dark30Outdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Need a shirt with a circle and line crossing out with the words Twizzlers and flappers!! 👍
@Statureman
@Statureman 3 жыл бұрын
Having been out of the bow shooting game for a while im surprised anyone would shoot straight. Helical was a given in 2000 when I got my bow.
@MiaogisTeas
@MiaogisTeas 3 жыл бұрын
And has been for the past 2000+ years. Just another example of arrogant modern humans fixing somethin that wasn't broken
@HoneyBeagle
@HoneyBeagle Жыл бұрын
This is a great video! Answered my curiosity about fletchings. I’ve always just shot straight fletch bow shop arrows. I’m gonna build a set of adult arrows this year and wanted to know whether it mattered how to fletch them. 🌠 the more you know….
@travisg.6315
@travisg.6315 3 жыл бұрын
I whacked my biggest buck to date 2 days ago with my new RF Apollos, 590 grains blasted thru both ribs and the heart at 45 yards
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
BOOM
@wesodegaard1434
@wesodegaard1434 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm....Sirius Batman arrows??? Interesting...nice intro update too. You’ve taught me well to notice the details. Thanks for the insight.
@benathens3294
@benathens3294 3 жыл бұрын
So I built some 650 grain Adult arrows. Now my target doesn't stop them! WTH ? Lol
@MrBowNaxe
@MrBowNaxe 3 жыл бұрын
Preach brother! The true believers are listening.
@williamworkman1468
@williamworkman1468 2 жыл бұрын
Dude at first I thought you were crazy, but entertaining! But you know what I'm starting to believe your methods. Please keep putting out content!
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Great content - yep Crazy - full send - I just can’t do the linear boring economics professor
@backwoods8414
@backwoods8414 3 жыл бұрын
Another great information video. I started shooting left three and one half inch fletch and noticed tighter groups at 40,50,and 60 yards. Going to adult arrows next year.
@wormtownmedic
@wormtownmedic 3 жыл бұрын
I went with your old suggestion for straight fletch right wing feathers and right bevel broad-head. So far so good. I've got a 783 grain Sirius Vulcan with 375 up front (18% FOC) that'll be hitting the woods.
@that_one_guy117x
@that_one_guy117x 3 жыл бұрын
I remember a video you did where you said if you properly tune your arrows you don’t need a helical fletch 😂 and I was thinking well I’m screwed I can’t tune my arrows that good so I went helical!
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
Well yes and no. But as I research around - helical helps where as straight fletch is more sketch. Now - FEATHERS are bent - even straight fletched - vanes are not
@WillKarst
@WillKarst 2 жыл бұрын
@9:25 I was literally picking my nose. 😆
@flugit
@flugit 2 жыл бұрын
Lancaster archery just did a video showing slo mo of ther opposite helical directions coming off the bow. The one that went left the direction the bow clocked spun immediately, going opposite the arrow Hesitated then started spinning the direction the vanes were offset.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Yep - working on this now with high speed camera
@toddhyland3253
@toddhyland3253 3 жыл бұрын
Hah, since your last comment, "THIS COULD BE THE SHORTEST VIDEO EVER" I nearly died of old age waiting for the 5 minuet intro and advertisements to get over with!
@woodzman991
@woodzman991 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the time big RF. Awesome advice as always.
@jhuntley575
@jhuntley575 3 жыл бұрын
Some people dont take into account the nature spin of thier arrow. When you shoot a bare shaft does it spin left or does it spin right? This should determine if you use left or right fletch. The way your string is twisted and the way the serving cross hatches that twist will determine a natural spin either left or right. If you put a right fletch on a left spinning arrow it will start out spinning left then slowly start spinning to the right not idea for " perfect arrow flight " edit I just noticed RF addressed this. I understand its minimal and more something target archers think about. But it bugs me and I just assume buy a string that twists clockwise and makes the arrow spin right to go along with my right fletch.
@samivey8416
@samivey8416 3 жыл бұрын
From the trad gear of selfbows to laminated bows to compound bows I've shot right helical to offset and killed rabbits and squirrels to deer . Just make sure it's leading point is glued down. Stuck in the hand sucks
@jcarry5214
@jcarry5214 2 жыл бұрын
I just fletched an arrow for the first time. I put four 3 inch feathers on at 4 degrees. Laser. Goes wherever my eyes are. I'd gotten used to some erratic wobble and assumed it was my release every time (stickbow). Well now the thing is like its on a wire and it hits the middle of the middle of my groups. I've gone back to bare shaft 3 times and tightened my groups up by being just neurotic. My arrows were 3x4" at 1 to 3 degrees and I was a resigning myself to a life of knuckleballing and thinking it was the tips needing to be filed or my cranky old bow. My big clue was I ripped off a whole fletch from one arrow in the elk woods and it still shot in the group. Same every-third-time corkscrew. Broadheads (single bevel right) actually helped that set. I love learning but it's embarrassing when it takes way too long to listen to the obvious, to acknowledge the gut feeling. And to watch Troy effin Fowler's thoughts on the matter.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Here is your next evolution!!!! With a stickbow. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p6yoataLvtqbm2Q.html
@MrADjam5
@MrADjam5 3 жыл бұрын
I expected to see wings on the back of your Ranch Fairy shirts. Good info here. Love your vids. Hunt safe.
@bobalotb6760
@bobalotb6760 3 жыл бұрын
Plz make more vids Ranch.. The dust is strong..
@jasonard7227
@jasonard7227 3 жыл бұрын
dropping truth bombs as always
@moneyandtimefreedom3352
@moneyandtimefreedom3352 3 жыл бұрын
I love the shop videos trying to justify the things they sell that go against common sense and science, all because of the RF videos. A few are getting on board but we need more. Almost every archery video nowadays shows arrows getting poor penetration. It’s a shame that more are not realizing that they need to change what they are doing.
@welderoo
@welderoo 3 жыл бұрын
90 % clocking is to the left due to the direction the serving is wrapped around your string is industry wide the same for most manufacturers
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah - working on that
@MikeyWoomer
@MikeyWoomer 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a video here a month or so ago. They tested the left ve right. There wasn't much difference. But was alittle. There is a hesitation to your arrows that spin left with a right helical. I think it made my arrow speed faster with a 3 vane hard left helical with a left spinning arrow. And if your bow sting is spun to the left it spins left if its spun right it goes right.. it's not going go change much. If you hit the vital V doesn't matter what way the arrows spinning its game over
@coreystoner4129
@coreystoner4129 3 жыл бұрын
The way I have my bow tuned is we did the paper tune then went and tried a few different arrows to see which one the bow liked and we settled of the Easton axis spt 5mm with a 50 grain outsert and those arrows fly straight and they did very well on a doe I shot.
@JasonW479
@JasonW479 3 жыл бұрын
Ranch Fairy nation 🤘🏻
@timl8302
@timl8302 Жыл бұрын
Then there is 'gyroscopic stability.' Rocket man knows about it. Oh, from what I've seen on slow-mo videos. Finger shooting paradox is horizontal & release shooting's paradox is usually vertical.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy Жыл бұрын
Yep - more to come. Little bits of genius at a time
@mikefoster1194
@mikefoster1194 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. Couple of comments, a bullet dosen't have fletchings. With a single bevel broadhead if your helical is counter to twist the single bevel creates it can hurt penetration.
@joshmcvety4072
@joshmcvety4072 3 жыл бұрын
So if using a single level bevel the helical should match the direction . Is there any benefit to which helical direction fletchings should be mounted if you are a left draw versus a right? Thanks for any input!
@mikefoster1194
@mikefoster1194 3 жыл бұрын
No, arrow will start to rotate when it clear's the bow. You should match wings (all left or all right) on single arrow. Dr. Ashby advocates the use of straight fletchings on single bevel broadheads. If someone wants helical on single bevel then I would select point and match fletchings to it.
@TheK2008
@TheK2008 3 жыл бұрын
But Troy. The Mechanicals fly like field points! That's what the box says...with fine print (in a vacuum). 😜
@MikeyWoomer
@MikeyWoomer 3 жыл бұрын
My bow shoots a bare shaft with no vanes to the left. I put a hard left helical on my arrows and wiw look out. They fly so smoth and fast at 550 grains its freakin crazy
@markmoore1852
@markmoore1852 3 жыл бұрын
It would make sense that as the shaft turns more, the blade end is equalizing any “untrue” effect vs simply planing from the front wings. Any clocking and once an object is in motion, it tends to stay in motion, I think I would opt for the faster spin. Peyton Manning wobble pass would not be my choice over a tight spiral.
@eric8851
@eric8851 2 жыл бұрын
Heavier longer bullets require a tighter twist rate to stabilize them so it only makes sense.
@kevinroberts9580
@kevinroberts9580 3 жыл бұрын
35 years ago when I was shooting a recurve, I was told to do Straight Fletch because if you had helical.... The deer would hear the Arrow coming! How stupid is that? They going to hear your string slap on the recurve but hopefully it's too late for him to vacate😁
@TheManic.5-OH
@TheManic.5-OH 9 ай бұрын
Helical only makes sense. If you've ever shot an arrow with a straight blazer vane, after about 20 or so shots, you'll notice the fletchings trying to form themselves with a helical(probably a right twist) on their own 🤷🏽‍♂️ it doesn't take a genius to look at this and think 'if I just give it what it wants, it will give me what I want' I just don't understand what's so hard to understand for some here
@greekmaster1001
@greekmaster1001 3 жыл бұрын
I own 6 bows and three of them have the ezv. I love them. Can you make another video on how to visualize on what you would be aiming. I seen plenty videos but yours I understand better
@ernestluedke3927
@ernestluedke3927 3 жыл бұрын
Hey RF, from a physics perspective, the reason why spinning objects fly straighter is because of something called rotational momentum. Spinning objects have momentum that resist changes to direction. It is the reason why you can stay upright while riding a moving bike but tip over on a stationary bike. The spinning wheels resist changes to direction (you tipping over). Same is true of bullets, footballs, and presumably arrows. I would assume this would be especially true of adult sized arrows because the more mass there is that is spinning, the more resistance to changes in direction it will have
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
Correct - I’ve gotta keep it kinda simple!!! Hahahahah
@davebarth5982
@davebarth5982 3 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy why not develop a 2 piece insert with a spring that transfers some of the initial forward energy from the bowstring into rotational energy on the insert and broadhead? A spinning broadhead might have more rotational momentum than the air going through the fletching.
@Goblueticken
@Goblueticken 3 жыл бұрын
I even put a blazer vain on with a right heliacal and it won hands down. It put a good spin to the Magnus as suffer 3 blade head.
@neotoxo54
@neotoxo54 3 жыл бұрын
PET PEEVE...If you say something enough times (though it be incorrect) people will begin to think it is fact. The archer's paradox is the phenomenon of an arrow traveling in the direction it is pointed at full draw, when it seems that the arrow would have to pass through the starting position it was in before being drawn, where it was pointed to the side of the target. The bending of the arrow when released is the explanation for why the paradox occurs and should not be confused with the paradox itself.
@goldmountain6520
@goldmountain6520 3 жыл бұрын
Watch Byron Ferguson on smarter everyday. This explanation looks like it came from Wikipedia and is very wordy.
@tonyviers-de9qi
@tonyviers-de9qi Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing, and I still like it out to about 30yards , though i really cant tell a difference in accuracy. However, shooting in back yard out past about 75-80 and especially when you get to 100+ , I would never run helical. It slows the arrow down too much and kills accuracy. What I would suggest is do it . Its fun to tinker and find how everything works for you. But when it gets to season, be ready with what you KNOW works. Don’t experiment on a live quiver. Unless it’s a coyote…. Then all bets are off.
@isaactyson4618
@isaactyson4618 3 жыл бұрын
I read an article in the last year in traditional bowhunter magazine in which the author put forth a strong case for straight fletching. He argued that the bullet illustration is flawed because arrows operate more like missiles and missiles do best with straight wings. I will have to re-read that article and see which is more convincing. I did switch to straight fetch with my longbow and I've been happy so far.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
There’s this thing.....called try it!! And see!! TRADITIONAL = feathers - they are bent......by God
@isaactyson4618
@isaactyson4618 3 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy I DID try it and have been happy with how my straight fletched arrow fly out of my longbow. A feather has some natural helical but that helical is exaggerated when put on the arrow with a helical clamp. Its influence is increased when that helical is put on with an offset. The authors argument was that feathers put on straight cause sufficient spin to stabilize and that by adding more helical or offset you are losing energy and making the arrow louder. I can see why this WOULD NOT MATTER for compounds but it makes sense for traditional bows. My purpose of posting was not to argue but just to bring awareness to some counter opinions. I will try to find the article online and link to it. The article presented some extensive testing and data. I'm assuming you would like to hear about other peoples testing results.
@isaactyson4618
@isaactyson4618 3 жыл бұрын
The article is in the 2019 Feb / Mar Traditional Bowhunter Magazine by Stephen Graf. I cant find it online. You probably don't care, but the author did a ton of testing and IMO it is worth a read.
@stick__shooter
@stick__shooter 3 жыл бұрын
Difference is a missile is pointy on the end like a field point, not winged like a broadhead.
@ixamraxi
@ixamraxi 2 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that the reason people went away from helicals was because its generally unnecessary. They say a helical tends to hide poor bow tuning, and doesn't make significant difference in groupings at shorter distances. I believe you lose arrow velocity, but most argue its not significant enough to ignore the increased accuracy at longer ranges provided by helicals. But, since most shots in bowhunting are made at less than 30 yards, the benefit is minimal in majority of cases, and given a well tuned modern bow can do tight groupings of straight fletched arrows at 60+ yards, helical fletching wouldn't really improve a good hunters ability to bring home meat. Granted, helical fletching can improve accuracy, especially at longer distances, but some would argue that it does so by compensating for poor form, or compensating for poor tuning, in which case straight fletching will better inform an archer that something is wrong with him or his bow, and they can focus on fixing that instead. One could argue that a person with proper form and well tuned bow would, by that logic, only benefit from a helical, but the response would be that there isn't a practical shot in hunting where that specific hunter couldn't make the same shot with a straight shaft arrow but could have with a helical, again making helicals unnecessary, but they might use helicals anyways because at that point there's no reason for them not to. The point: use straight fletching when practicing/training, and use helicals when on an actual hunt. That way the straight shaft arrows force you to focus more on form and tuning while practicing, but then you still get any potential benefit of helicals when actually hunting.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Uh - no. Aerodynamically a rolling projectile is more consistent . Guess we shoot a shot gun for rifle practice? The vibe in the archery community and the message boards is so strongly in favor of “new technology fixes physics” Bows do one thing - Return to static state. Launch a projectile - after the projectile leaves - there’s a whole “old school” set of variables that happen This happens despite the launcher.
@filprocter7318
@filprocter7318 3 жыл бұрын
Ive learned alot in the last few years watchin your vids. Thanks..i even keep watchin through your sarcasm. Lol...but the visor?? IDK maybe i watched too much Carlin in my younger days.lol..no seriously the 200 lbs buck walked under my tree straight away from me wouldn't turn wouldn't turn finally put on his r hip at 30 yrds 648gn arrow exits in front of L front shoulda..wow thanx again!
@n2trkys18
@n2trkys18 3 жыл бұрын
A properly tuned bow and correctly spined arrows is the only thing that I’ve noticed that matters. All the uber tuning of the arrows(ie. nock tuning, spine indexing, insert tuning, etc) hasn’t made a lick of difference in arrow flight. If the only thing that actually changes the rotation of the arrow in mid flight(fletching against the natural rotation of your arrow) doesn’t matter, then nothing does. If it makes one feel better to do it, then by all means, have at it. It’s just not necessary.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
Great! I guess it's ok to keep trying all this stupidity anyway.
@n2trkys18
@n2trkys18 3 жыл бұрын
Ain’t no doubt. Without trying it, an individual will never know what works best for them.
@Jonathonwho
@Jonathonwho 3 жыл бұрын
I was actually picking my nose... busted!
@johnarcher9480
@johnarcher9480 2 жыл бұрын
Of course, it depends on the feather/vane being used.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Aerodynamically- nope
@bobbycampbell175
@bobbycampbell175 3 жыл бұрын
Thank for your help in the past my arrows fly like a dart 534 grain and bulls eye at 85 yrds 220 speed
@ShutErDownBud
@ShutErDownBud 3 жыл бұрын
A real merch plug involves cutting your merch 😂👍👍
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
“He’s not normal”
@Favorites2499
@Favorites2499 3 жыл бұрын
I like this theory. Rifling and comparing arrows to reloading. Precision reloading we do things in 0.01 grains and a minimum. Like why not do the same thing with archery? I bet the pro archers wear the pionty hats and do this! In reloading the heavier the bullet the faster the rifling has to be. Therefore it makes since that you would have to be the same with heavy arrows. The more heavy the arrow the more spin you need on the back. I am not the smartest just putting on a pointy hat.
@careyhamil
@careyhamil 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, you trust this guy over people that make their money in archery. RF has some really good info, but he is not the archery expert. A bullet would be more comparable to a football flying through the air. An arrow would be more relatable to a missile. Wonder how many missiles have a helical vane on the back end?
@richardwooten7657
@richardwooten7657 3 жыл бұрын
BOTTOM LINE ..................... YOU NEEED A ARROW B A R R E L !
@chengxiong8543
@chengxiong8543 3 жыл бұрын
so much wisdom from Ranch Fairy!!!
@sorenjensen8867
@sorenjensen8867 3 жыл бұрын
“Shhhh...don’t tell anyone” 🤣
@davidstonkus3288
@davidstonkus3288 3 жыл бұрын
Another cool video. Have you tried/ experimented with NAP's Quik spin vanes?These have a small ridge on one side of the edge of the vane. Unfortunately we in the crossbow community are very limited in the amount of helical we can put on our projectiles.
@tygoulding2547
@tygoulding2547 8 ай бұрын
Yes they’re garbage. Great for a year, and they do spin really well. But give it a year and they fall apart. Never had less durable fletchings.
@randyhelgeson1254
@randyhelgeson1254 2 жыл бұрын
Smooth bore guns would just ruin every James bond movie.
@labtrainer09
@labtrainer09 5 ай бұрын
Hey, Troy. Thank you for another helpful, no-nonsense video. One question: In an older session called "Feathers vs Vanes for Bowhunting," you recommended straight (non-helical) vanes (and feathers) for hunters using single-bevel, two-bladed broadheads. You cited Dr. Ashby's contention that AFTER IMPACT, such a broadhead will rotate more, causing more damage, when the shaft on which it's mounted is rotating minimally BEFORE IMPACT. As a result, you said that you always shot arrows with non-helical fletching. Here , three years later, you note that you always use helical fletching. Does that represent a change in your thinking, or are you referring to the hunts where you DON'T use single-bevel, two-bladed broadheads? Or have I maybe misinterpreted what you said in both videos (entirely possible). All the best, Chris (in Maine)
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, good point. So feathers are bent by God. Literally on the bird so when they try to fly the wings don't turn inside out. So they are "helical" even set straight. I put them as straight as possible...... on a helical jig. Which sounds WEIRD. But they are 2" long so I bet they aren't over 1.5 degree "helical" because on the back of the jig the helical begins. If they were 4" feathers...oh, they'd be helical! So no change. Just using what I have and is common for 95% of people with a jig. I DON"T INTENTIONALLY make them helical...I guess that's the best answer.
@labtrainer09
@labtrainer09 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, Troy. Believe it or not, your explanation makes perfect sense to me. Hah.
@huntingluciferblack9265
@huntingluciferblack9265 3 жыл бұрын
Try the ozcut hurricane . It's a 3 blade single bevel with offset . They fly bloody awesome .
@Mikyll1969
@Mikyll1969 3 жыл бұрын
someday...when I grow up... I wanna hang and hunt with RF
@tomharrell1954
@tomharrell1954 3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of spinning arrows! But the riflings in a rifle is not a good analogy. The riflings spin the bullet from the start. The arrows stabilize then spin. They are probably 20 feet down range by the time they start spinning. This is fine but more spin would be better. Think I will make a real spinner and see what happens
@cruzmissile25
@cruzmissile25 3 жыл бұрын
Would have to disagree with your 20ft claim. Check out slow motion videos, they start rotation as soon as nock leaves string contact.
@bigsexymanbear1950
@bigsexymanbear1950 3 жыл бұрын
I found this channel last week. Now I have to rebuild all of my damn arrows, F*ck... Wish you could necropsy THP's latest buck.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned
@jack6136
@jack6136 Жыл бұрын
1) if you are not interested in the obvious as to archery 🏹 you should consider doing something else. 2) The Ranch Fairy 🧚‍♀️ is correct far more often than not which is frustrating to folk who are accustomed to being WRONG 😮! 3) Should you purchase a.30-06 that doesn’t have rifling………….😳 you have been scammed and I have the Verrazano bridge that I think you should purchase. It leads to Staten Island and it’s convenient . I will give a really good deal! $$$$$$$$😮😮😮😮
@MagVair
@MagVair 11 күн бұрын
Troy!? I wanna know, how you know, I'm picking my nose....? 😮 😂😅😂
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 9 күн бұрын
@@MagVair maybe it’s not just your nose!!! 🙃
@yourmomma2995
@yourmomma2995 2 жыл бұрын
i didnt even know that people shoot straight fletch, assumed it was common sense.
@teamflanneloutdoors5631
@teamflanneloutdoors5631 3 жыл бұрын
@ #ranchfairynation 💡 I was honestly contemplating this subject yesterday whilst setting my pins to my new higher FOC shafts with 2 degree right wing helical with 3" feathers. your timing is impeccable👌 @ #keepcalmandshootadultarrows
@dennispalmer8622
@dennispalmer8622 3 жыл бұрын
I know I'm old but am I blind? Where can we get the cool shirts and hoodies? Thanks!
@reformeddaddy
@reformeddaddy 3 жыл бұрын
Should be right below the comment section if you are using a phone
@jonbhorton
@jonbhorton 3 жыл бұрын
Dang it. Now I gotta spend more money. I’ll go with the Fairy hoodie to piss off the archery bros and confuse the uninitiated.
@WhatwedointodayOutdoors
@WhatwedointodayOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Shot some different setups today. One thing I was listening for was the helical and the left or right single bevel. I found they were the same but changed enough stuff that I should probably start whole process over. Added 5 lbs to draw weight, now went past the 300/250 bridge. 300’s we’re making about a 6” circle from bow to target. Went to 250 straightened up. 250’s were pre fletched I’m still knock tuning and it’s working. I still have yet to find my perfect arrow. Apollos were out of stock on 250’s. Trying them next. What’s your experience with orions? You, THP 👍 good videos guys, thank you
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy Жыл бұрын
Apollo’s will be back in a few weeks Orions a great arrow - I hate the sleeves…. And they’re my sponsor - how about that!!!
@WhatwedointodayOutdoors
@WhatwedointodayOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Bought your kit👍, it didn’t save the hundreds I’ve spent searching for my setup but it will save the other hundreds I probably would’ve spent! Lost a ironwill yesterday, found arrow but had broke off. I tend to learn things the hard way. Losing the broadhead made me know my shaft was to light. You had that semi circle flight pattern in a video too I watched after the fact😂. You use cheaper broadheads while to begin with? Say for instance if I would’ve used a black hornet, I would’ve got the same circle effect of the light shaft with that? Being it shot fine with insert and 125 gr field tip. The broadhead magnified like you’ve said. I’ve never looked for a broken piece of arrow so hard in my life. It circled right of the block at 30yds hit rock on edge of field and ricocheted left into my field that is cultivated and just got 5” of rain on. It was a mucky mess. Little worried I’d find it with my leg. Too wet and too many rocks.
@GrizzAxxemann
@GrizzAxxemann 3 жыл бұрын
360p potatovision hurts my eyes. But the info was great!
@2harehound
@2harehound 3 жыл бұрын
Ranch Fairy Nation
@MrAPCProductions
@MrAPCProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Is it right fletching for right hand single bevel?
@jacksteele13
@jacksteele13 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@clemsmith8799
@clemsmith8799 3 жыл бұрын
This guy would make a perfect politician, can look you in the eye an lie
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
Hahah - well played.
@ruralrider9961
@ruralrider9961 3 жыл бұрын
Spinning things are more stable. Stand that arrow up by the point and it will fall over. Spin it like a top and it will stand up. Angular momentum. Same with a bullet.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
What he said!
@emorse912
@emorse912 Жыл бұрын
My QAD Exodus broadheads hit 5inches left of target everytime. Is it because I have stock children arrows with straight 3 blade fletchings?? 😆😞 Seriously though, my bow has been micro tuned and I'm money at 40yds with field points but my $420 rth Bear Legit can't be tuned anymore. I'll try helical 4 fletched adult arrows!
@samivey8416
@samivey8416 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely split the deer apart with these arrows. He went barely 50 yards only because it slid downhill!
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
Blam
@bobbyb7127
@bobbyb7127 2 жыл бұрын
but straight offset has spin, just probably not as much as helical. just wondering if straight offset is as accurate as helical, say within 20 yards using field points. I have the bletzenburger helical and thinking about getting the straight jig but hate wasting money. lol
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
Bare shaft the arrows Then nock tune That solves it all
@nicetryb0z0
@nicetryb0z0 2 жыл бұрын
My bow shop told me helical is no good out of a whisker biscuit though? So I bought a straight offset jig. I hunt with a biscuit and intend to stay with it
@nicetryb0z0
@nicetryb0z0 2 жыл бұрын
Got into RF late this year so only shooting 442 gr with 15 FOC(already way better than standard arrows I was using) but will invest in 200-300g single bevel heads, stiffer and heavier arrow. I want to be around 600g. Building up my at home equipment to get this stuff tuned right, considering public land hunting and quartering shots, animal ducking, this guy makes a lot of sense. My archery shop had the same chuckle when I brought my plan up. Didn't care bought the heavy inserts anyway and switched arrows and readjusted mid season. Have more confidence in my shot now than ever
@theafricanalluresouthafrica
@theafricanalluresouthafrica 3 жыл бұрын
Cool hoodie☝️
@flushot6513
@flushot6513 3 жыл бұрын
512 grain arrow with 200 grain vpa and like 21% I believe foc
@haroldbleemel8537
@haroldbleemel8537 3 жыл бұрын
How does the spin not create more drag on the broadheads? Now your broadhead is swimming through the air instead of gliding. I can understand if you're shooting bullet points. Also what happens upon contact when using a broadhead? Seems like it's easier to stab a piece of cardboard with a knife than it is to twist it in. Inquiring minds want to know.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
How much spin do you think is occurring? Answer - Think one rotation in 6-8 feet. It’s not a drill, just a way to insure the projectile is biting into the atmosphere consistently.
@haroldbleemel8537
@haroldbleemel8537 3 жыл бұрын
@@RanchFairy Thank you!
@jons7e
@jons7e 2 жыл бұрын
good video ... left or right helical? how much helical? would be interesting to see at distances what happens to speed at impact with some variations. Heck, bare shaft at 20 yards.... it should be like a dart.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 2 жыл бұрын
It’s on my channel!! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ed1xicWAlp-VZX0.html
@Jay-nm8kt
@Jay-nm8kt 7 ай бұрын
RF as a fisherman would you compare fletching to a driftsock on a fishing boat?
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 7 ай бұрын
Not in any way possible. Fletch is a 360 degree lifting device.
@arkbama6
@arkbama6 3 жыл бұрын
Dude! Bro I get all the physics your dropping. Agree. But I don’t care! I watch your videos and subscribed because of your quirky way of saying what you say! Hypnotic!
@mwallace6540
@mwallace6540 Жыл бұрын
I have some 2219 Easton aluminum shafts and want to try to make some 16.5” quills for my Micro Mag 340. I have feathers left over from my vertical bow days..arrow building. They are longer than the plastic Blazers that are on the factory BEE quills. Does it matter how long the feathers are..the length that runs along the shaft?
@timriley687
@timriley687 3 жыл бұрын
Hey fairy. The videos are great. Please add a microphone to your attire so that it is easier to hear all that great info you are passing. Too much work on your end to have the experience degraded by sound quality.
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy 3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@mr.skeptical3071
@mr.skeptical3071 Жыл бұрын
Can you use a right helical vane set up on a "left"/ counter clockwise bow? Most shots will be under 22 yards
@RanchFairy
@RanchFairy Жыл бұрын
99% of people been doing it forever.
@sarafayelawton652
@sarafayelawton652 3 жыл бұрын
I want a shirt that says Fairy Duster !!!!
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