I can respect lowering the price of a game. Games have gotten way too expensive. Listen, I get video games take a lot of money to make, but if it's so expensive that the product needs to be charged more than it's worth, then it's probably not worth it. I think we need more AA games.

I think it's wild that Hellblade is knocked for being what it's trying to be: which is an experience. The last thing I want from Hellblade is to focus more on my skill tree and complex combat that takes me out of the game and into the mental chess of how to get through it. I don't want to pause, I want it to play out exactly how it is: simple, smooth, satisfying.

It doesn’t make sense to me why people pre order games. Back in the day the pre order from game stop used to guarantee you would get a copy of the game at release so they wouldn’t sell out. But now with digital releases it baffling

Ninja Theory have always been up front about what they're doing with the Hellblade series and that their priorities are in that intense experience of seeing the world as Senua perceives it. Original took me 6 1/2 hours to complete. I wouldn't have wanted it to be longer - it's harrowing and designed to be so! Good luck to them for HB2, I hope people come to it for what it is and not as if it's some cut down God of War clone.

I bought Hellblade 1 in Jul 2017 for US$29.99. I had been following their youtube videos and was impressed enough to pre-order. I had an 18 hour playthrough, and I liked it. However at US$50 for Hellblade 2 I will wait for reviews, and possibly sale discounts. Money is short these days.

It will not be a long game. Just buy one month of gamepass and finish it.

I think it all just depends on what the game will ultimately be like. I don't mind if the story is shorter if the story is amazing or cohesive. Even better, if the gameplay is absolutely fire. Which doesn't apply to this game but it's serviceable. I generally lean into the RPG genre because I like having replayability and being able to put multiple hours into games. But with that said if that short experience is a nice breath of fresh air, then I do appreciate it. But I also never buy games full priced, so... Yeah. Got the first game for 10 bucks, thought it was alright. Will probably do the same here 2 years after it's out

these “digital-only” releases are making me nervous

Ive recently noticed from software games, santa monica studios games deserve pre orders. Few bugs, complete full game also good rated games.

Idk why people are surprised Hellblade is going to be Hellblade. They built this tight immersive cinematic experience and have been upfront with that since the start. Not for you? That’s fine, but we can all acknowledge how great it’s looking. I think $50 is fair.

Tameem was always the big creative mind of the studio, with his unique visions of games. One of the few, who had a great team backing him up, to make this visions come to life. I'm a big fan of the studio, since more than 11 years now and it's pretty sad that he's gone. I've watched interviews of him and his team, even before they released DMC. That game is from 2013.

Just finished the first game. Its great. Cant wait for the second

Excited for this still gotta play the 1st one 😂 but about to play that once finish phantom liberty

I would of paid $100 for the original Hellblade because it was an amazing experience and made me feel something. $50 is perfect price for the second game. This is the third most anticipated game ever for me behind Halo 2 and Last of Us 2.

Where do I get a set of those magnets?

There is a factor I use, that not many do, in determining if a price is fair(this should not be used to determine if a game is worth it for you) and that is brand power. This is because for games with less brand power to be able to better compete, it is important that they at least have value where they have a better chance at winning, since it would be hard to compete with marketing and so on.

which mouse?

I think having a more defined and understood concept for the "cinematic action/experience" game genre would help consumers be comfortable with the price points. Let's say for example it becomes largely understood that a Cinematic game should be $50 if it's 10hours long and an extra 10 Dollars per 10 hours or quality campaign length. I actually quite like short cinematic games that get to the point and tell a nice story. I also feel that those games are distinct enough to separate them into their own type of experience since they bridge the gap between the two mediums of video games and cinema.

I'd love to actually buy them game if they released it physically. Excited for hellblade 2 and its length. I liked what the first one was doing

I’m excited for a game with a dedicated run time. Just finished my replays of Uncharted 4 and Uncharted Lost Legacy and those games are brilliantly paced and make for better games than so many that have you playing 50+ hours.

I have played 1000 hours conan exiles and ark.what price conan exiles and ark should have?

They did a similar thing for Alan Wake 2. Plus they undersold the optimization, it looked way better with RTX off than many games with RTX on and shit performance. Ran amazingly well on my 3080 laptop, on launch + they worked on the optimization post launch and brought down the requirements. That right there is a company that isn't greedy and have the customers on their mind.

Personally, I like having shorter game options in the AAA space. I've got more than enough unfinished long games sitting in my backlog. Sometimes it's nice to just sit down and complete a story over a weekend.

I remember when getting a season pass gave u like 10 bucks off the dlc now its just the same price

Yeah, I basically agree with that interview. I think everyone who's interested in Hellblade is gonna be expecting a short and focused experience. And the price tag is fine. The first game was around 30 or 40 bucks, and adjusting for inflation plus the adjustment in prices the whole industry has done, it doesn't sound bad at all.

Damn, I was going to wait since I already pre-ordered Stellar Blade but I can't pass on such a great offer.

If its like the first Hellblade the best part will be the visuals, acting and story. What might be meh is the combat and puzzles, which they may have tried to switch up after many criticisms focusing on those two things. Then again it could be a total disaster but that's why we keep expectations reasonable and see how it goes.

For me, game lenght is an odd thing to discuss. Like, back in the day, you could complete a game in a single day and wouldn't think about it. because we replayed games a lot. As games got longer and the replayability of games shifted to online multuiplayer, we started to demand longer and longer playtime/narratives. I nejoy a short game. I enjoy a long game. It depends. What I want is a deep and rich and detailed story to get my teeth into. So if thats 10 hours its 10 hours. If its 50 hours it 50 hours. Although, I don't think most games benefit from being that long. I've played many games that are over 50 hours and i've not see nthe benefit. Even arguably the best game ever made (not my favourite, but the best) in RDR2 was slightly too long and the entire Guarma chapter could have been cut and the game would potentially be better for it. I think the ideal runtime for most games is between 15 and 25 hours. maybe 30 at an upper limit. Some games can be 60, 70, 100++ hours and get away with it becasue its their worlds that call for it etc. But most can't. Hogwarts legacy too me 23 hours to get through and about 31 hours to 100% and I'm genuinly ok with that. It was a good lerngth. Star wars Jedi survivor was shorter, but I nejopyed it. Spider man miles moralis was like 15 hours and I enjoyed it.

No wonder games are getting expensive. We all are waiting for a good sale and companies know it. Makes me only wait longer. 😂

1 month gamepass on christmas and play indiana jones hellblade and stalker all together.

I loved the first Hellblade and if it wasn't for Game Pass i probably wouldn't have played it. I'm definitely still hyped for the sequel! While it's not great for owning your games, it is great that people will be able to play games like this for a one month payment to GP. I did the same to EA+ to play the last Star Wars: Jedi Survivor and i'll likely pay a one month to Ubisoft+ to complete Star Wars Outlaws the same way.

This is good. What has always bothered me is games have varied widely yet there is no price differential.

We have no idea how good or bad GTA6 will be

I believe companies are misusing the "short but sweet" argument. Delivering a short game is a solution to a self-made problem, where many AAA games are bloated with dull filler content just to meet certain playtime quota. I recall completing everything in The Witcher 3 after +200 hours and still craving for more. That said, there is no shame in making a short game. Some games, like Hellblade 2, provide an experience that don't need to be long regardless of the quality. Just be honest and say so. No need to generalize to "gamers want shorter games."

While I have no excitement for Hellblade 2, them not being egotistical and charging reasonably is great. Weird how that is not the norm anymore.

The consumers for the gaming community are all so negative now it's frustrating. Predetermined opinions about anything/anyone is disgusting.

Did the actual gamers like hellblade I feel like the journalist the only one who loved it

Wait didnt he say last time that he is disappointed that the game is too short?

I'm fine with shorter game ngl. I got too many big ass games that I still have to finish and probably never will. It's one thing when you are RDR2. And it's entire opposite when you're Assassin's Creed Valhalla.

When games developers say, "Player need to change their standards!", It shows a staggering lack of awareness that they're the ones asking US for money. If we're not wanting to give them our money, they need to change THEIR standards because they're the ones at risk of going bust whilst we're just at risk of having to play different games.

This is why I’m very wise and picky about buying certain games

Only to me does it seem like a rouged way of saying "Guys, if it goes well it will last 4 hours even if we've been working on it for like 7 years, please don't lynch us" XD

I think the case is the developers need to ask themselves. Do we have a gameplay loop, is it a fun enjoyable loop, No? Cut it short. Yes? we need to add a bit more content then. In general there needs to be a certain amount of pacing for games. The games you referenced btw didn't cop flack for being short they copped flack for other reasons I imagine you don't want to go into.

I’m pretty convinced that GTA 6 is going to base price for $100.

It's gonna be free with game pass. Which is why it's gonna be 50

Its priced at $50 guys ✌🏽

Suicide squad is 50% off right now

15 hours is too little. I say 20 hours minimum.

Spiderman was not 17 hours

Bethesda sold a collectors edition of Starfield for $200 that didn't even come with a copy of the game, just a code printed on a chunk of metal. Worse of all they sold out in hours. A game that you can complete in only a few hours that costs $50 looks like a bargain only because prices have gotten so far out of control even mild rip-offs look good by comparison.

$60 in 2010 equates to roughly $86 in 2024.

40 hours is minimum

Didnt he say last time that we shouldnt be surpised if aaa games are no longer made cause we dont spend 70 dollars on a game? Wtf?

…Okay, I didn’t play the original Hellblade, nor have I watched the entire video yet to understand why people’d be mad exactly, but I’m gonna real quick off the premise alone just say: I don’t get being mad about this. This is a AAA game, an exclusive from Microsoft that’s ALSO ON GAME PASS, and in the era where AAA games are priced at $70 and aren’t worth that price…People are mad this one’s $50? Was the original like…$30 or something? Cuz that’s the only way I say this being complained about. Edit: …Okay, I say this as a Persona fan: I don’t care how long a game is as long as it’s fun, or I get something out of it. I prefer a short game with a fun gameplay/good story, to a long game that, even if it has those things, drags on for too long. A game doesn’t need to be long to be good, but it needs to be good enough to justify its length. And let’s be honest: A lot of AAA games nowadays aren’t, so this is pretty refreshing. You can be mad if you want, I can kinda get it, but it doesn’t seem like that big a deal to me personally.

Hellblade 2 is day 1 game pass available, so not sure why you are making a big deal about this. 🤷‍♂️

SNES games costed $70 & $80 in the 90's

Is anybody going to be buying Hellblade 2 though? Honestly asking. I don't mean cause it's going to be shitty, because I don't think it will be, but it's on Gamepass.

I think the biggest disconnect with time versus price is a matter of young versus old players. I gather most of your audience is fairly young. When you're older, you tend to have other obligations and interests, and more disposable income; when you're younger you tend to have fewer obligations and less disposable income. I'm probably older than at least half of your viewers, so 20 hours a week is a heavy amount of gaming. When I was younger I could fit that in in a long weekend if I wanted. Ultimately the value of a game is what you want to pay for it. You can only blame yourself for paying full price for a game and blowing through it in a weekend. If you don't no-life a video game there's no reason to feel burned by the length. If you're reading this you're probably in your 20's or under so you have no impulse control, but it's not your fault... yet. People talk about game prices and hours like they spent all their savings on a prostitute and blame her when they bust in their jeans. It's not her fault you don't know how to slow down and enjoy the experience. You didn't get ripped off, you just have nothing else to do. Instead of blaming publishers for how games are priced and encouraging them to pad their games by dozens of meaningless hours of the same gameplay loop to drive up the hour count, learn to pace yourself, replay games you like, play a game with high replay value like a live service or roguelite, read a book, walk your dog, do your homework, or do literally anything else for a bit. You only feel burned or like a sucker when you deceive yourself.

Compared to other games prices $50 is fair besides that this game is using real engine 5 and is gonna bw realistic i think yo are not giving good arguments with a game that has a long development time if you don't wanna pay for it , please don' t encourage others to not do it .

7 hours for 50 bucks is a lot more acceptable

It's always price per hour for me. Or at least price per hour of fun. Which makes games like Deep Rock Galactic the cheapest games I've ever played and makes story based games most uninteresting for me, simply because the production value usually goes into "story telling" and art, and less into actual gameplay. If I want storytelling and art I can watch a movie.

Longer games aren’t necessarily better. I can respect a shorter game. A good example I have is a plague tail. The first was short and sweet. While I thought the second was a bit of a slog to get through. Same thing happened with Spider-Man and god of war.

So they are losing a shit ton of money on hellblade then?

Better be able to turn off that fucking letter-boxing on PC.

Kinda sad that its digital only. Guess mu physical copy of the first one is gonna be lonely.

This is why I don't understand the argument of "games are expensive to make", I just can't comprehend how you spend the budget for gta 5 and end up with suicide squad.

I work 7 to 7 somedays and I started to appreciate short games over 400 hours time sinks

shorter games doesn't mean it is bad, I don't think every game should be 50 - 100 hours long.

I can buy a new movie at home for $15-$25 so yeah, it's different when compared to a $70-$100 video game.

Shorter games are a tough sell at today's prices. Dev's should to be more responsible with what they deliver.

Pricing at $50 isn't an impressive cut. I still think it's overpriced for what it's giving, even if it's a great game. The first one was $30 bucks - still just as great. $70 for any game (don't really care what the budget is) will for now and always be absurd, unless you're giving me the biggest immersive experience of my life no one should be paying that much.

Just got my first pc and I don’t think I’ll be spending much on any newer games

digital only? wtf

$50 usd is crazy if the game is going to be fairly small Just have to hope that the game has great quality and replayable

The problem with Outlaws is they jack the price of the gold edition. Ac Origins gold edition was only 20 dollars more than the basick edition back then. Here, its 40 bucks extra.

😂😂😂 bandai namco Naruto x Boruto SC in the same vote 🗳️

If it's that short they shouldv'e made it a rogue like lol

I am definitely one of the ones they are talking about. Pretty much any story based game over 10 hours and I am out. I get bored quickly.

Honestly not worth 50 dollars just get it on gamepass and finish it in a day

95% of Ubisoft season passes are amazing

70$ isn’t problem it’s the extra content that should be included in the game and they want extra 30$ on top for “dlc”

Who cares at the price? It’ll be on gamepass😂

I'm so tired of games that take 40+ hrs to beat. Just give me a really good 8-14hr game and I'm happy

I'm playing through the first Hellblade and if was a 30 hour game I would have given up a long time ago. The puzzles are challenging, there is no inventory, no skilltree etc. nothing to really manage besides the voices in your head. It really messes with you because the voices will try to confuse you sometimes which is the whole point of simulating psychosis. The area you are in randomly changes and you can get stuck in endless loop mazes if you aren't paying attention. I'm fine with being 8 hours long. I've spent more than that on it so far mainly because I kept getting lost but it's part of the experience. I don't think anyone will or want to rush through this game. If you do you aren't the right audience for the game.

i do think that MS should shorten their game productions a bit cause 7y is a bit to long for a 7h game even if its using UE5 and its at 50$

Heres my thing with the co-founder leaving and no one finding out until now, and by the way since then he has commented on this and it sounds like there isn't any kind of falling out necessarily. I do strongly feel like if there was an official anouncement of this whe nhe did leave, I 100% believe that media and content creators would have found a way to create a narrative around this as being that MS killed the studio and lost the talent blaw blaw blaw, and the game is going t obe trash. It seems like the dude left years ago, and was only really part of the development of Hellblade II in the early stages, but had very little involvement. We can see now so far that it seems like the studio is in pretty good hands seeing where the game looks to be and how long he seems to have been gone for. Of course we still have to see the full product, but it looks to be shaping up well.

Rise of Ronin..for example, is not 70€ by any means.

2:34 Focused game. YES. shorter? NO.

$70 video games lol. Bless.

really liked the first hellblade and have been looking foward to the sequel but until i know for sure how much influence SBI had over it, im not touching it.

Star Wars outlaws is gonna be as bad as suicide squad

I would pay $50 for Hellblade 2… if it was physical. Really pissed it’s digital only

Anyone who thinks Spider-Man 2 shouldn’t be a full priced game is insane. Honestly I thought it was weird how people were so upset when games were to $70. Don’t get me wrong I don’t wanna pay more but games went to 60 dollars twenty years ago . Everything is more expensive 20 years later. I can’t really think of anything I can pay the same price for now that I did in 2005 lol

I think having it day one on GP is self defeating. Most people are just going to play it on GP instead of buying it.

its like a 50 dollar tech demo hahahahah

Does it matter? Its on gamepass. Lol

Why it is all walking ? Never played the first one

I am fine with a 70 game. As long as you fix it down the road. Forza was awful at launch. But they fixed it. Now i dont think there should be bugs day one. Delay it then. You just fixed the problems by not putting day 1 patch. Who is upset with spiderman ? 😂😂

Its gonna be a 5 hours tech demo with little and definitely repetitive gameplay just like the first one...50 is a good step but it should be 40.

That's cheap considering they're a AAA gamedev. After playing the first Hellblade, I would've paid 70, let alone 60.