Here's Why So Many African Americans Are Disgruntled with Tanzania

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11 ай бұрын

Today I am interviewing @africonexion Joseph Mbele PHD. He is a Tanzanian who is now teaching at St. Olaf College in Minnesota. He is a cultural expert regarding the African Diaspora. He also believes he has the solution of how African Americans can resettle in African countries like Tanzania.
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@Kenganda
@Kenganda 11 ай бұрын
Check out Joseph Mbele PHD BELOW: www.youtube.com/@africonexion His books are below: Africans and Americans: Embracing Cultural Differences www.amazon.com/Africans-Americans-Embracing-Cultural-Differences/dp/141162341X/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1689113058&sr=1-1 Chickens in the Bus: More Thoughts on Cultural Differences www.amazon.com/Chickens-Bus-Thoughts-Cultural-Differences/dp/1312159561/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1689113004&sr=1-2
@retirementtoafrica
@retirementtoafrica 11 ай бұрын
Great conversations. Good thing you are bringing both dides than speaking to youselves. Would like to join the panel one day to bring another dimension the debate. Understanding of the white man differs from country to country. Bottom line most Africans do not know much about them dxcept for aid.
@hcalo
@hcalo 11 ай бұрын
Africa is a continent (54 countries) and "America" is a country!.....🤔 but what about the other American countries?.. we aren't American?.... North Americans are not Americans?.... South Americans are not Americans?.... I am Latin American but if we aren't American why they call us Latin Americans 🤔? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mbJxgahnytvLaJc.html
@dollarwil1234
@dollarwil1234 10 ай бұрын
@@retirementtoafrica Good point. We need to explore this aspect. All of us know him differently. Context matters.
@Kreyol_89
@Kreyol_89 11 ай бұрын
I will be in Tanzania in 3 weeks. First time in the African continent. I’m excited
@blkqueen6201
@blkqueen6201 11 ай бұрын
Please how do get in touch with you. I have some questions for you.
@Dan-xx5jq
@Dan-xx5jq 11 ай бұрын
You should also travel next door to Kenya and Uganda to see the big difference between the countries.
@dollarwil1234
@dollarwil1234 11 ай бұрын
This show belongs in your Hall of Fame. This series of discussions will establish your legacy more than any other work you've done.
@Luhje
@Luhje 10 ай бұрын
Why do some AAs complain about certain countries in Africa being too westernized? When you choose to settle in a country that is "not westernized" here is what you are going to encounter. You will be unable to find business or work opportunities, you will not find decent housing with reasonable amenities, you may not find decent schools for your children and access to medical care. You may not be able to even work from home because of internet/wifi challenges. You will then start moaning and groaning about lack of western conveniences in those places.
@dillardmaysjr2405
@dillardmaysjr2405 11 ай бұрын
Black Panther Peter O'neil. Wish I knew the history. Love Tanzania, lived there 84-86 and will return 🙏🏿
@FeddiNation
@FeddiNation 11 ай бұрын
I don’t think task oriented is the American way but in business is the universal way and that is one major reason Africa lacks in productivity compared to other places in the world
@dee2ttown
@dee2ttown 11 ай бұрын
Right, and a reason why it does make sense, to link up with an African American community that is goal oriented, and build and work with them, even though you may experience some challenges with them as well but, you know what I mean.
@dadoboye1536
@dadoboye1536 11 ай бұрын
You know America is known to have one of the highest productivity in the world. Europeans have a whole month vacation every year but the US gives only 2 weeks. Productivity based on working like a robot as in the West shouldn’t be a goal to take back to Africa. It should be a blend. There’s less insanity in Africa because of their cultures.
@tombimashri8149
@tombimashri8149 11 ай бұрын
​@dee2ttown even siblings have differences in character nd way of doing things, it's about respecting eachother nd learning off eachother nd not expecting people to be like us nd do everything like us.
@Silverbackugx
@Silverbackugx 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for saying this.. ✊🏾👊🏾..
@AuntieCheri
@AuntieCheri 11 ай бұрын
That book is outstanding!!! You must get it if you want to travel to the Continent.
@vicferrmat4492
@vicferrmat4492 11 ай бұрын
Good programme Oshay, keep up the good work.
@pearbear319
@pearbear319 11 ай бұрын
Tradition is good, but some traditions as practiced in Africa are hobbling and need to be discarded.
@faheemfaquir1619
@faheemfaquir1619 11 ай бұрын
Humongous facts. Cut the bullshit and raise the standards.
@africantraveller8303
@africantraveller8303 11 ай бұрын
true, change it.
@shelmithmumbi6884
@shelmithmumbi6884 11 ай бұрын
in all fairnesss we can't throw away african traditions to pave way for black american culture that has resulted to nothing than glorification of crime, ratchet behaviour and lack of values. Let everyone live in their continent and their values. Traditions are there to serve a purpose get tradition out and watch discipline and morals take a downward spiral. On this i say no, kindly
@africaine4889
@africaine4889 11 ай бұрын
​@@africantraveller8303what african tradition for example should we changed
@Silverbackugx
@Silverbackugx 11 ай бұрын
​​@@shelmithmumbi6884inancial responsibility, integrity, work ethic, transparency, honesty, and plain technical knowledge are missing from your culture, your BS narrative and idea of what Black culture is fuels your jealousy and disrespect. Black Americans are not the ones lagging 100 years behind the rest of the world in technology, knowledge, and understanding.
@FeddiNation
@FeddiNation 11 ай бұрын
It’s not the effects of westernization but rather the effects of poverty in this era of globalization
@providetriggersforevolutio3748
@providetriggersforevolutio3748 11 ай бұрын
I agree with this distinction. My thoughts exactly!
@Taylordessalines
@Taylordessalines 7 ай бұрын
This ignores what globalization really is. It’s a fancy word for the west and other exploitive countries to convince developing countries to allow their multinational corporations and policies to run the economy while the locals and citizens are stuck being the servants. Only fools just accept globalization without studying it. It’s a con game where only the few run the many. Stop regurgitating their bs.
@All_4_Success-X
@All_4_Success-X 11 ай бұрын
The way forward is correct the problems that are current. Lying, greed are human. Reteach and relearn how to move anyway! Stop accepting the failings and leave dead minds behind.
@harrisburgmobile5453
@harrisburgmobile5453 11 ай бұрын
I really loved this conversation as African living in the USA
@jaypaladin-havesmartswilll5508
@jaypaladin-havesmartswilll5508 11 ай бұрын
This is probably the best interview that Kenganda channel has had so far. It was interesting, thought provoking with some eye openers. The conversation is a great example of two people from two cultures who see things quite differently as both were open to understand each other's perspective. Not a single profanity or racial pejorative. This was very refreshing for a change.
@Makandmend100
@Makandmend100 5 ай бұрын
I too agree!! This was very eye opening putting things in perspective!!
@GeecheeWoman
@GeecheeWoman 11 ай бұрын
Hey Nephew Oshay , the professor is saying the right thing . I am working on several projects in Ghana . Business in Afrika takes business to another level . Your mindset will definitely be changed . Working with a trusted local is the best way to go &;life is a lot easier. I can definitely attest to thst fact .
@makedavolettatravels9864
@makedavolettatravels9864 3 ай бұрын
They don’t have to work with us when they come to the U.S.
@donred1693
@donred1693 11 ай бұрын
I am a child of the 60s and remember how it use to be prior to the Civil Rights Movement which dysfunctionalized Black American, by way of integration. Prior to the Civil Rights Era, not all, But most Black Americans were family and community oriented. Not today. Most Black Americans are individuals who are nurtured on a capitalistic and materialistic mindset, supplemented with opportunistic and a self grandeurizing mentality. This is what they leave for Africa with, and this is why they leave sooner than they expected disappointed l. To win we have to go in groups with a plan and a strategy that is inclusive with Continental Africans.
@makonnenwallen3408
@makonnenwallen3408 11 ай бұрын
I agree fam.
@4Waridi
@4Waridi 11 ай бұрын
The successful one are the ones who can adjust to the culture and do life with the locals.
@ruqayyahcurtis7504
@ruqayyahcurtis7504 11 ай бұрын
Very well stated. I too, am a product of the 70's. I agree that we AA must plan and life will be better to work within a group. Yes, I came to Tanzania in the late 70's . I was living in Cairo, but going to Tanzania was the highlight of my young life. We loved and President Nyerere. We came back to US to study more. I will be returning to East Africa in 2023 to live the rest of my life. I have friends in Dar Es Salaam now. They love it.
@ruqayyahcurtis7504
@ruqayyahcurtis7504 11 ай бұрын
Yes! Professor we loved Magafule!
@ruqayyahcurtis7504
@ruqayyahcurtis7504 11 ай бұрын
This is your most excellent program my brother Oshay! Bring more of the Critical thinkers like Professor Mbele. We need to interact and connect with people who have a more evolved mindset!! It is necessary. Yes, we need The Tool of Survival.
@kelugu3776
@kelugu3776 11 ай бұрын
Great guest. Great discussion. This is how a true academic facilitates discussion. He listened more than he talked.
@statemoneyclaim8051
@statemoneyclaim8051 11 ай бұрын
Also, as AA we must not compare ourselves to other cultures in Africa. A lot of these cultures have the support of their government. We don't and that is an important dynamic that is not being discussed. The Indian and Chinese government has made agreements with some of these African nations to be there and do business easily. The Unitef States does not support AA leaving and bringing money to countries they want to take advantage. They want you in America working for low wages until you stress yourself out into an early death.
@tratney
@tratney 11 ай бұрын
oshay you guys should start a class with various people in africa called africa for dummies where over teach them about tribes and how they do things
@Kenganda
@Kenganda 11 ай бұрын
lol yall not going to worry me.
@CLOVISAHMED-ny5yz
@CLOVISAHMED-ny5yz 11 ай бұрын
And who is the dummies,
@Kenganda
@Kenganda 11 ай бұрын
@@CLOVISAHMED-ny5yz nobody is a dummy I just believe this is how he words things.
@tratney
@tratney 11 ай бұрын
@@CLOVISAHMED-ny5yz the idiots who says things like, I thought africans live in huts and lions walk around on a regular bases, I am so sick and tired of that stupid narrative, being even if that is the case so what. just to let you known mud is cooler than concrete with giving better circulation so anyone having problems with mud houses need to go kick rocks. Also what is wrong if lions and other animals are walking around, let them commune with nature
@CLOVISAHMED-ny5yz
@CLOVISAHMED-ny5yz 11 ай бұрын
@@Kenganda ok I took it the wrong way ✌️
@andeyo1
@andeyo1 11 ай бұрын
This was a great show, like this Tanzania brother I have resided in US for decades with 20 years in 100% African American neighborhood. I do concur with him on many issues but I would differ on the current state of African. The Africa me and him left behind is long gone. The current Africa has moved away from relationship centered society to task oriented western society. They want to reap the productivity and efficient that comes with the western ways without paying the price of its consequences, neither are they willing to put in the work. The colonial legacy laid the foundation of confusions, colonial and neo colonial education was never meant to create critical thinkers and problem solvers. Colonial education was meant to create administrators and technicians to help Europeans extrait our resources. Countries like Kenya are changing education system to competence based. We also need to introduce African centered education that can create efficient and productive citizens like Japanese and Chinese, we do not have to give up our connection centered to task centered, we should be able to accomplish tasks in our system. We also need to teach young African the plight of our people in diaspora Tanzania is the only African country that had perfected the union of one nation using Swahili as a culture glue, it isa mistake to wholly replace it with English. In Kenya we have achieved development but it has come at a culture cost, we lost some of our culture identity as African people. African American should try to integrate with locals and stop creating their own silos. I think the African governments should add department or ministry of Diaspora and employs diasporians to help those moving to Africa. At policy level all Africans should adapt or learn from Ghana and have a policy supported by budget to help our people come back home, provide conducive environment for investment
@Taylordessalines
@Taylordessalines 7 ай бұрын
This is so on point.
@seso3454
@seso3454 11 ай бұрын
Mr. Mbele provided some important insight on how to 'act right' when integrating into an African society. You asked the right questions - how do we really work together when the thinking can be so far apart?
@blkqueen6201
@blkqueen6201 11 ай бұрын
Start with patience.
@berthatz
@berthatz 11 ай бұрын
@@blkqueen6201exactly…Patience is key..📌
@Silverbackugx
@Silverbackugx 11 ай бұрын
I can agree that patience is needed, but Black Americans dont move to Africa so they can go backward in time 100 years.
@palesamogorosi8939
@palesamogorosi8939 10 ай бұрын
​@@Silverbackugxare you suggesting that Africans are backward in time?
@slygeebee7575
@slygeebee7575 10 ай бұрын
​@@palesamogorosi8939Africa will not make it internationally if it doesn't function along international lines. It is that simple when we're talking about business.
@saavwafare
@saavwafare 10 ай бұрын
Excellent countering points from the black american perspective Oshay!🔥
@habarizenuTV
@habarizenuTV 11 ай бұрын
I would have to disagree on the market haggling...my experience the seller most times will stand firm once they hear your American accent. So, I just started going down the line in the market till I find someone that has a fair price, same with the bodas and taxis. The American accent most times will make a seller start at a high price. I challenge you to go to the market with a local and have the American not say a word. The price for the same item will magically drop. Its not an American thing to be annoyed, its a human nature thing more so-
@GOTravelhannel
@GOTravelhannel 11 ай бұрын
I disagree because you’re implying that the accent translates into asking for a higher price as perceived to be doing better than the locals. Why doesn’t that same logic work in the states when you have to negotiate for mortgages, car loans, rent in certain markets, etc? Those perceived to be less wealthy end up paying more.
@bella-qz6ls
@bella-qz6ls 11 ай бұрын
​@@GOTravelhannel..with all honesty,u can't compare the US,bigger economy, everything better,"first world" country,older in age with little old Tanzania.. That's an off comparison..in most developing countries in the world not only Africa u will haggle for price unfortunately as an outsider/foreigner..and yes,Americans in Tanzania are somewhat doing better financially than a local,it's just facts.. Lastly,it's not only Americans that get hiked prices, even as a local when the sellers think u might have money/u look moneyed/can tell ur ignorant of the prices,they will tell u higher price first and that's why there is bargaining.
@faheemfaquir1619
@faheemfaquir1619 11 ай бұрын
@@GOTravelhannel bruh... If they hear you're from the west they bout to try and tax you. Period. They know you have more than the locals.
@samanthabrahambrown6369
@samanthabrahambrown6369 11 ай бұрын
@@GOTravelhannel oh dear you need help. Haven’t you heard of Redlining and Jim Crow? Look it up. Read and Come back before posting Elaborate Statements.
@xl6941
@xl6941 8 ай бұрын
I’m Tanzanian and i get hustled over the prices most times. It’s annoying. It might be more pronounced for outsiders because we perceive you are all rich.
@vicferrmat4492
@vicferrmat4492 11 ай бұрын
Haggling: "Mark Meets Africa" seems to be on top of these issues spoken about here.
@eappea2147
@eappea2147 11 ай бұрын
"Yes working with those differences," but it may take generation or more. And that should not be a bad thing, because it is still progress if you are moving forward.
@4Waridi
@4Waridi 11 ай бұрын
The word ‘Mzungu’ is derived from the Kiswahili word ‘mzunguko’ which is describing the movement of travelling in circles ie to travel around. Kuzunguka is the verb. When the European explorers arrived on the continent, they would come to an area, leave with porters who helped them navigate the land and then travel back and leave again ie Traveling in circles. It was a lot of traveling because they were discovering and mapping the area, and looking for waterways to bring ships and boats inland. Because it was the white travelers who were zungukaring, that is how they got the name Mzungu (one who travels around). To the locals, they were traveling in circles, moving around, to and fro, back and forth. Therefore Mzungu is used to describe foreign travelers especially from the western world irrespective of race- black, white and hispanic. It is not a derogatory name.
@palesamogorosi8939
@palesamogorosi8939 11 ай бұрын
How many times do we need to explain this to them though lol? If they go to Congo they will be called mundele.
@4Waridi
@4Waridi 11 ай бұрын
@@palesamogorosi8939 it comes up a lot. Educating oneself and Interacting with locals can sort this out.
@palesamogorosi8939
@palesamogorosi8939 11 ай бұрын
@@4Waridi the thing is that they will still be offended. It started with akata, now it's going to be mzungu.
@africaine4889
@africaine4889 11 ай бұрын
​​@@palesamogorosi8939yeah but we all know that congolese do not call black americans mundele. Only whites are called mundele. Maybe you already know it but the word mundele was given by the Kongos people to the first colonizers who arrived. The true meaning of mundele is terrorist, invader. People that came to conquer and bring terror. That's the real meaning of mundele. Because white in Kikongo is pembe. Not mundele. Till today all whites are called mundele but congolese do not know the real meaning of the word thinking it means white. That's why they will also call anyone with light skin mundele. Even congolese with light skin will be called mundele. Black Americans gfrom my experience are called Americans. I worked with a light skin black american woman in Kinshasa and we went to the market and they heard her talk they will call her "americaine". Black or light u are just "americains" We also have a name for arab north Africans or just arabs. Mundimbu: savages, fighters aggressirs, That also comes from the Arab slave trade.
@blkqueen6201
@blkqueen6201 11 ай бұрын
@@africaine4889 Wow, this is very enlightening. I thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. At least this makes sense more sense than I've ever heard.
@Mabson4
@Mabson4 11 ай бұрын
Exceptional interview! Just found your channel last month and so glad I did. I'll be purchasing the professor's books as we prepare to travel to Tanzania this fall. Blessings!
@africanadage852
@africanadage852 11 ай бұрын
This is an excellent discourse. It would be great if Prof Joseph Mbele does YT series on specific topics ( African culture; integration into society; market culture; African perceptions of the diaspora; breaking ice with the Continental African; land purchases; business investment opportunities and requirements by govts amongst others) to built bridges between Africans.
@tdmagichands
@tdmagichands 10 ай бұрын
I highly enjoyed this conversation thanks for sharing this content. Well done
@Omega1st
@Omega1st 11 ай бұрын
I have been enlightened greatly from this interview.
@poeticwisdom3
@poeticwisdom3 11 ай бұрын
Great episode, should be viral. Every black person in the he diaspora needs to hear this.
@AP.lovetoAll
@AP.lovetoAll 11 ай бұрын
Great discussion ‼️ I appreciate you addressing the work ethic in response to the social but lacks traditions; which appear more careless than social / cultural‼️ Colonization has made our community complacent and somewhat feeling like better work ethic won’t change much things for them 🤔 He said perhaps for our children’s children’s generation.. What about the foreigners who are moving with speed NOW? ‼️ SET TIME IS NOW‼️ We have solutions. From NYC, love to all. Bless.
@shell5988
@shell5988 11 ай бұрын
Wow, build it up Oshay. Built it up, wonderful interview. The best I’ve seen..
@wendyomanga
@wendyomanga 11 ай бұрын
Perspective is everything
@kalafricaniut
@kalafricaniut 11 ай бұрын
Africans, both from America and the continent need to let go of what doest serve them so we can become competitive in the world. Doing something a particular way for thousands of years doesnt mean it is efficient or will be successful against other ways. I think this is the mindset we need to get into to avoid subjective and ultimately wrong ideations about "our way" and holding onto it.
@Silverbackugx
@Silverbackugx 11 ай бұрын
Well said brother🙏🏾
@wr066
@wr066 10 ай бұрын
To All Of My Fellow African Diaspora: Regardless of what personal feelings we may have towards each other; nevertheless, especially considering what overall may have happened to us from the time that we were first developed & seeded on this planet (within our Motherland Africa), to hear and see such a positive expression from one of our African leaders (Museveni of Uganda) is truly a blessing for all of us globally. Overall, it's possible that all of us members of the Global Black Diaspora need to positively reflect more on righteous: compassion, honor, forgiveness, respect, financial & social advancement with each other.
@thekorsh4230
@thekorsh4230 11 ай бұрын
In the Caribbean you own somebody money they coming after you with a machete
@trictrac02
@trictrac02 10 ай бұрын
As an continental African, I couldn't agree more with brother Kenganda push backs. The most frustrating aspect of the continental African culture is the begging on both ways. They beg for simples favor that with small effort could easily accomplished. On the other hand, they demand or expect to be begged when the issue in case will confere full advantage for themselves. As for the deference towards the mzungus is certainly the leftover of colonialization and Christianization or Islamization of the continent for that matter.
@KelvinKim-desu
@KelvinKim-desu 10 ай бұрын
So clear and objective.
@APOLO-oq3ce
@APOLO-oq3ce 11 ай бұрын
Geronimo Pratt a former black panther wrongful convicted of murder in Los Angeles, moved to Tanzania when he was released from an American prison where he passed. This has to be the best human you ever had. Thank you iam very grateful.
@marthavineyard6959
@marthavineyard6959 10 ай бұрын
Until we start loving ourselves nothing will really be effective.
@KBHfinanceguy
@KBHfinanceguy 11 ай бұрын
Excellent conversation I look forward to reading the books as well.
@DonaldG-qq4ol
@DonaldG-qq4ol 11 ай бұрын
I plan to purchase a Swahili language dictionary translation booklet.
@BantuLisa
@BantuLisa 11 ай бұрын
@DonaldG-qq4ol the KZfaqrs Stepping Stones 2 Home said that the Swahili they learned before leaving the States was Kenyan and different than what was spoken in Tanzania. I would still get the dictionary and ask the locals if the words used are correct. I believe it will build rapport 😊
@DonaldG-qq4ol
@DonaldG-qq4ol 11 ай бұрын
@@BantuLisa Also I believe Kenya has cooler climates suited for my overall well being. Thanks for your suggestion.
@BantuLisa
@BantuLisa 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Oshay! This channel ROCKS! I subscribed to Joseph Mbele's channel as well and will purchase his books too😊
@Kenganda
@Kenganda 11 ай бұрын
thank u so much!
@lsalmon907
@lsalmon907 6 ай бұрын
Personal security is paramount! The adaptation as well as the adjustment can be slow, but people are complex, so the movement is going to take a lot of patience.
@antebellumblackamerican7408
@antebellumblackamerican7408 11 ай бұрын
so how can such humble friendly people be such scammers???
@Sonizizi
@Sonizizi 11 ай бұрын
That's how they get you. Hypocritical tactics
@sonyacotton4881
@sonyacotton4881 11 ай бұрын
This is the _best_ interview I've seen so far from you, Oshay. I've more videos to watch on your channel. Thank you so much for uploading this. I appreciate the "bridge-building" you are doing with AfRAkan natives. I am pleased to see the sharing of observations--and understanding--from both sides. It is educational. Dr. Joseph Mbele is a gem. I'd like to engage him in a future chat and acquire his book. Again, thank you.
@klovalove
@klovalove 11 ай бұрын
The Best show! Thank you for your efforts.
@nicoleknox5387
@nicoleknox5387 11 ай бұрын
This was a very informative interview!! Oshay Jackson asked the thought provoking questions provided insightful commentary. Grt job!!!!
@hrqueen1herrera906
@hrqueen1herrera906 9 ай бұрын
This is how businesses operate in developing countries. Patience & relationship building do pave the way.
@normabrashear14
@normabrashear14 9 ай бұрын
Excellent interview!
@simonesimona8317
@simonesimona8317 11 ай бұрын
Excellent discussion. I truly appreciate the doctor's perspective and advice. Im looking forward to the next time he is invited back.
@konradadderley8807
@konradadderley8807 11 ай бұрын
Excellent discussion. I'm an American. We always hear that many , not all, Africans and African Americans don't know how to be on time and they're always late. But I totally disagree. When it's time to catch a flight to go vacation and when they need to show up for work or they'll get fired or when you have to go to court for an appearance, or when you have a doctors appointment or when they got a hot date, or when they need to pick up their paycheck they are very much on time. So they know very well how to be on time. They need to be reminded that they pick and choose when to be on time. The issue is a matter of respect and accountability. If they don't respect you or if they feel there are no ramifications for being late they will do as they please. Everyone should be held to the same standards. If you're routinely late, then you're fired period.
@Kenganda
@Kenganda 11 ай бұрын
FACTS!
@steppaboss
@steppaboss 11 ай бұрын
Well said. Could not have said it any better👏🏾👏🏾
@Taylordessalines
@Taylordessalines 7 ай бұрын
Agreed
@justgoddessesonly
@justgoddessesonly 6 ай бұрын
I agree. My problem with Americans is that once you respect their time by showing up on time, let's say for example, for an hour for a doctor's appt or to meet with a realtor, they in turn most times want your money, but also want to disrespect your time and attention with rudeness, contempt, discriminatory condescending remarks, micro-aggressions, and subpar biased service. Think about the fact that you want us to show up on time to a space where you act once we arrive, as if you have to 'tolerate' our presence. The accountability and respect goes both ways. We show up on time to where we are welcome and wanted. No problem. We show up late to places where we have been disrespected because you get what you give, which is either warmth or disrespect.
@gretawoodson1451
@gretawoodson1451 11 ай бұрын
Blessings to you Brother for showcasing Dr. Mbele!
@kekel-j6434
@kekel-j6434 11 ай бұрын
New Subscriber!!!! I truly enjoy this discourse. It really brought many answers AND questions to the forefront of my mind!
@Kenganda
@Kenganda 11 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard! thank you so much for coming!
@AmosHashaka
@AmosHashaka 8 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this interview as well, very interesting, captivating, informative and intellectual 👏
@marlyjeudy2235
@marlyjeudy2235 10 ай бұрын
Beautiful conversation, As a Social Worker and Community Leader in Canada, I encourage more of these dialogues with emphasis of the Continent understanding who are these Diasporan people? What are their beliefs, ,dreams and aspirations? Visions /Goals , both socially and economically. Keep up the good work Oashay! I support your efforts.
@doinggarveytv5894
@doinggarveytv5894 11 ай бұрын
He definitelyneed to be a regular for exposure and knowledge.
@GOTravelhannel
@GOTravelhannel 11 ай бұрын
?????
@sumtendechaba9717
@sumtendechaba9717 11 ай бұрын
They need to learn Swahili when they come!
@LMaxx5
@LMaxx5 8 ай бұрын
God bless you Mr.Jackson.
@lsalmon907
@lsalmon907 6 ай бұрын
Listening to your podcast tonight, I have so much I would like to say about the topic. I do not see a successful business or a country that don't have good organization skills. Schedules and commitments are very vital. It's time to get started to succeed so our lost people can return.
@HRL.
@HRL. 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant conversations on this podcast 👏 kudos to your guest and you Oshey.
@jg7742
@jg7742 11 ай бұрын
Best interview, it gave perspective on both sides, TIME is a factor for CHANGE , it will happen, your show is a conduit enlightening listeners of the work to be achieved in the future. Just think how powerful Africa could be if we UNITE & work on theses problems that exist.
@ShakorPicou
@ShakorPicou 11 ай бұрын
I have seen Chinese factories that are operating like prison camps in Africa. Diaspora entrepreneurs are not operating with this mindset but are not respected with the same level of respect that are given to the Asian people.
@africantraveller8303
@africantraveller8303 11 ай бұрын
sad💔☹️
@sekelakasebele4026
@sekelakasebele4026 11 ай бұрын
Sir the Chinese and Indians pay a lot money(Corruption) to the Police for the protection that's why they can get away with everything. You know why we don't hate the White people as same as you Black America bacause after the Colonialism end and we got Independence we came to realize that our African leader are bad as White people were during Colonialism eg those factories operating like prison the police and local government know but because of Corruption they do nothing. Other thing we think you African America are rich like the Whites because your foreigner also because we are poor. Don't feel offend and never gives up on Tanzania or African continental in general. In Africa all we have is hope.
@Serge-cm5my
@Serge-cm5my 11 ай бұрын
Because they still mostly treat coming to Africa like a vacation.
@africaine4889
@africaine4889 11 ай бұрын
Nobody respects Chinese in africa.Stop saying things u don't know about. Lots of issues that Africans have with Chinese. Start reading local newspapers and u will know what's going on sir
@saragulati50
@saragulati50 11 ай бұрын
Remember culture is not race. It is things you have experience personally or family. Part of friendship is extending yourself without expectations. Barriers are broken down by you. Concentrate on you.
@PPW-tv1
@PPW-tv1 11 ай бұрын
Great Interview!
@statemoneyclaim8051
@statemoneyclaim8051 11 ай бұрын
May God continue to infinitely bless all African nations! Africa is Rising and I am so excited to see their growth. As an African American I fully embrace the Swahili pole pole lifestyle. It is better for your health both mentally and physically. I think if you're coming to the continent to do business, first inbred yourself in the community. The community itself will show you what businesses are needed instead of what businesses you want. Change your mindset and it will change your life.
@pauletteparker7225
@pauletteparker7225 11 ай бұрын
Couldn't get off the couch😊, very interesting topic with professor Joseph Mbele. More work to do with US, looking forward to the next.💯
@blackentrepreneur8564
@blackentrepreneur8564 11 ай бұрын
Africa Americans are disgruntled with Ghana, Tanzania, Rwanda, Gambia and even some case South Africa. Nations with open arm ask you to come and all u guys can do is to appreciate but no. Nobody can satisfy u if u are not satisfy.
@JamesBond-44
@JamesBond-44 11 ай бұрын
WELL SAID.THEY ONLY COMPLAIN, IN GHANA THEY GIVE THEM 5000 ACRES FREE LAND, AND SOME ARE STILL COMPLAINING BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PAY REGISTRATION FEE TO GET THE LND REGISTERED AND DEMARCATED IN THEIR NAME. SO SOME ARE SAYING IT IS NOT FREE, JUST BECAUSE OF THE REGISTRATION FEES. NOT EVEN LOCAL GHANAIANS GET FREE LAND. SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT.
@lukasbalchunas1272
@lukasbalchunas1272 11 ай бұрын
I'm a gay Lithuanian man. What will you give me if I visit Africa?
@lukasbalchunas1272
@lukasbalchunas1272 11 ай бұрын
@@JamesBond-44 I am a gay Lithuanian man and I want to come to Africa and empower gays and lesbians who are being persecuted by ignorant people. Gays and lesbians have a right to exist in Africa.
@blackentrepreneur8564
@blackentrepreneur8564 11 ай бұрын
@lukasbalchunas1272 you can take them to your country if that is ok with u. Lithuania and other western countries have to understand that your way of life is vast different from others especially Africa. You can't impose ur lifestyle on us.
@MrArtfreako
@MrArtfreako 11 ай бұрын
@@lukasbalchunas1272 well just make sure you don't go anywhere near uganda dude their parliament's passed some laws that makes it illegal for people like yourself to advertize n or speak of your choice of sexual orientation in any kinda shape or form that could influence others to follow it so you can end up in jail for actin gay or as some would say actin too gay in uganda as for the rest of africa most africans would certainly disapprove of this gay thing...!though we never really cared that much about it til some western governments started pressin africans into officially recognizin your people's rights n agendas just like it happens in the western world...
@OL_Skool_Swole
@OL_Skool_Swole 10 ай бұрын
Excellent interview and discussion. I found it informative and thought provoking. Being part of the Diaspora and actively looking to relocate to an African country, I’ve found hardships just from researching my possibilities for a new life. One major takeaway is the importance of connecting with the people. I look forward to it. I understand there are going to be some frustrating moments and untrustworthy individuals, but I also know I can’t live separate and think I will be successful or as enriched culturally unless I do so. No need to think of moving to Africa if you don’t plan on fully immersing yourself.
@sharperone8237
@sharperone8237 11 ай бұрын
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽...! Very good session.
@samlae7089
@samlae7089 5 ай бұрын
You nailed it Prof🎉
@bunmipopoola513
@bunmipopoola513 11 ай бұрын
How are they integrating when they don't even speak local language? If they live in Germany they will have to be able to speak German.
@jlovett4362
@jlovett4362 11 ай бұрын
Excellent interview.
@Dan13Speed
@Dan13Speed 11 ай бұрын
Great Show bro.
@vintagerob3083
@vintagerob3083 11 ай бұрын
One of the best kenganda conversations yet. Keep going Oshay!
@lastzulu180
@lastzulu180 11 ай бұрын
I have to say I'M SO proud of you oshay you're living up to your full potential and it's inspiring and makes me happy to see you dude Good work I understand you got to do some foolishness from time to time but you did good bro you did real good Bro
@thekorsh4230
@thekorsh4230 11 ай бұрын
Great content
@busyrand
@busyrand 10 ай бұрын
I'd love to see Dr. Ronald Neal's interview.
@deseangibir4764
@deseangibir4764 10 ай бұрын
I need to get his book. Good podcast. Shout out to you both.
@josephmbele5732
@josephmbele5732 8 ай бұрын
@deseangibir4764, definitely, you will gain much from the book and its sequel titled "Chickens in the Bus: More Thoughts on Cultural Differences."
@Kinglioncrown
@Kinglioncrown 11 ай бұрын
I love Africa
@vicferrmat4492
@vicferrmat4492 11 ай бұрын
It sounds like this man could be excusing corrupt practices by invoking tradition. Slavery was traditional in the Americas but we will agree that slavery is a bad thing. Tradition does not necessarily equal good.
@tvs9978
@tvs9978 11 ай бұрын
slavery was traditional around the world including Africa and the Americas
@dadoboye1536
@dadoboye1536 11 ай бұрын
Traditional African slavery before Europeans is absolutely not the same as chattel slavery for commercial profit including human insurance. You could rise to be chief in prior African slavery.
@tvs9978
@tvs9978 11 ай бұрын
@@dadoboye1536 Same way that some slaves could rise to become rich black slaveowners and property owners across the Americas with the ability to even buy prominent seats in white churches, receive tax rebates for the slaves they owned and be considered powerful members of society. There are always exceptions to the rule. I suggest you go to your national archives and read the accounts of African slaves on African soil who took their owners to court for maltreatment and selling them off to multiple owners. Fact is there were several different forms of slavery in West africa at least ranging from simple pawnship and indentured servitude to European-style chattel slavery for those slaves that were known as "donko" which was the lowest grade of slaves in Akan territories or Osu slaves in what is know as Nigeria today. This is a reality that Africans are not honest enough to face
@Silverbackugx
@Silverbackugx 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, traditionalist are happy with Africa being 100 years behind the modern world.
@ambrosebarigyemukiga
@ambrosebarigyemukiga 11 ай бұрын
Slavery was a traditional in the African pre-colonial era.Africans practiced slavery amongst themselves but not this commercial and cruel one ushered in by times of Europeans and Arabs.During different battles amongst different kingdoms,the prisoners of war would be taken in as slaves to do manual labor for their captors but when the outsiders came they ushered in a ruthless kind of human transactions.
@lutrailahobbs3086
@lutrailahobbs3086 10 ай бұрын
I’m 25 minutes into the conversation. I believe this is the information I will need to really enjoy Africa
@FBA-Renaissance
@FBA-Renaissance 10 ай бұрын
I'm a HVM with biological family in 🇺🇸 and 2 major African countries. I've found that most my peers have chosen Asia over Africa because of the ease of doing business. For HNF the game will always be GLOBAL 😎
@AuntieCheri
@AuntieCheri 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful!!!
@oceejekwam6829
@oceejekwam6829 11 ай бұрын
This is incisive (Oshay your questions really cut through the fat and got to the substance of the issue). Dr Mbele was providing lots of insights. This was an excellent session, - thank you to both of you.
@RyanFagan_RealEstate
@RyanFagan_RealEstate 10 ай бұрын
Big fan of this channel. Shout out to Oshay for paving the way
@slove102784
@slove102784 11 ай бұрын
Good job getting this brother in.
@bauttiet.h.u.g.5900
@bauttiet.h.u.g.5900 11 ай бұрын
Good conversation
@Typek83
@Typek83 5 ай бұрын
I watch your show for last few months. I was in Tanzania twice this year. First on a trip to Kilimanjaro and 2nd time to experience the normal life. I was there for two weeks checking prices, meeting people, looking for busines oportunities and learning about Tanzanian way of living... OMG! "Pole pole" is the main rule of life style there and sometimes it drives me mad (I'm mzungu from Poland ;p ) After these two visits I made a decision that I want to move there... This interview is exactly what I'm looking for. Alot of informations and analysing... going deeper into tanzanian way of living. Greate show! 1 thing that you said just hit me... I don't know how can you wonder why theres not a single white person cleaning offices in Tanzania? I think you didn't think much about this question... White person who can afford visiting Tanzania usualy is not some junkie or drunkie... He or she can usually do much more than cleaning hotels and don't understand me wrong. Theres nothing wrong with the job I've done many jobs in my life and some of them were really worse than cleaning hotels but for Tanzanian wages... Man, nobody from Europe or USA will survive in Tanzania for these wages... they must do more than that to afford house and food atleest. So people who can afford visiting Tanzania can do more than cleaning hotels and people who are... lets say less wealthy won't come to a country with these wages... for Europe they will go from Poland to Germany or from Estonia to Netherlands but always in the direction of higher wages not lower... Can you imagine someone coming from Europe or USA who has nothing in Tanzania and he has to pay for a room (he can forget about house or flat), food, clothes by cleaning hotels? Impossible... well maybe in Dar es Salam (sorry for spelling mistakes) you get 500k/month cleaning hotel I don't know... but I was in Moshi and you don't get such money for cleaning there. I'm not trying to be a di*k just explaining your question because for me the answer is obvious... Poore people go always in the direction of higher wages (I know because I spent 1 year in UK after studies working at a jobs that no British wanted). Wealthy or just not poore people go wherever they can achieve their goals (doesn't matter what they are) but they want to use their potential. And I think this is good for Tanzania from many difrent perspectives... and by the way the same thing applies to both white and black people... Have you seen rich black person in USA whos dreaming about cleaning houses in Tanzania/Uganda/Thailand or any other place? Or even wealthy person from Tanzania dreaming about cleaning houses in Europe or USA... There's your answer I think ;)
@miketrotman9720
@miketrotman9720 9 ай бұрын
Go, Badgers!
@RiceMan88
@RiceMan88 11 ай бұрын
Great dialogue
@righteoustruth
@righteoustruth 10 ай бұрын
I think Africa needs to change the way it does business...hence, all their stuff is being stolen... 26:30 That makes us African Diasporans nervous. They can't take care of themselves. Africa needs to do it's own "home wuk"!
@Dreamdreams350
@Dreamdreams350 10 ай бұрын
Just bought his book Africans and Americans.
@josephmbele5732
@josephmbele5732 8 ай бұрын
@watsonhilare7420 I hope you like the book.
@GeecheeWoman
@GeecheeWoman 11 ай бұрын
Hey Nephew Oshay , I will be traveling to Tanzania in November for the first time. The following places will be visited : Arusha , Dar es Salaam and Zanzibar .
@ngamaizinzi3987
@ngamaizinzi3987 11 ай бұрын
Visit Mwanza too, this Tanzanian city is always left out 😟
@GeecheeWoman
@GeecheeWoman 11 ай бұрын
Nephew , does the professor plan on returning back to Tanzania to live permanently or have become so - called Americanized because of the salary, lifestyle , car & and house ?
@africaine4889
@africaine4889 11 ай бұрын
You want to bet he already built in Tanzania and will go back?
@MrDes1979
@MrDes1979 11 ай бұрын
Legendary
@davidmumford367
@davidmumford367 9 ай бұрын
our folk should stop trying to find a mini-America on the continent.
@wr066
@wr066 10 ай бұрын
To All Of My Fellow African Diaspora: Regardless of what personal feelings we may have towards each other; nevertheless, especially considering what overall may have happened to us from the time that we were first developed & seeded on this planet (within our Motherland Africa), to hear and see such a positive expression from one of our African leaders (Museveni of Uganda) is truly a blessing for all of us globally. Overall, it's possible that all of us members of the Global Black Diaspora need to positively reflect more on righteous: compassion, honor, forgiveness, respect, financial & social advancement with each other.
@vicferrmat4492
@vicferrmat4492 11 ай бұрын
Without timing there is no organisation and organisation is key. There are things which cannot be achieved if there is no organisation. Tasks cannot be done if people are not turning up. If the African way of doing business and technology is so great, why is Africa so poor and powerless?
@gerrytushh
@gerrytushh 11 ай бұрын
The concepts of time, power, poverty etc are culturally diverse. Majority of people in Africa are not poor in their own estimation of themselves for example. A person who owns 800 cattle is NOT poor..... but this same person doesn't want to put on clothes or build a permanent house but prefers a grass thatched hut.
@CLOVISAHMED-ny5yz
@CLOVISAHMED-ny5yz 11 ай бұрын
@@gerrytushh most Africans are poor especially the ones that live in the village they have clean water to drink and no food to eat no shoes to put on their feet some of them have to walk miles with buckets to get water so you don't know what you talking about
@GOTravelhannel
@GOTravelhannel 11 ай бұрын
@@gerrytushhalso a lot of middle class people in the west are not property rich in sense that their big ticket items are purchased on credit.
@dadoboye1536
@dadoboye1536 11 ай бұрын
You’ve really been brainwashed by the West obviously. Most Africans own their homes outright with no mortgage, from the thatched to the big Hollywood style mansions. Most properties in the West are credit based and are not owned so people’s net worth is non- existent or zero.
@faheemfaquir1619
@faheemfaquir1619 11 ай бұрын
@@gerrytushh I'm sure they're not talking about attempting to do business with the cattle owner, instead they're probably referring to so called ambitious Africans who engage in entrepreneurial and occupational endeavors. These are the individuals whose standards for punctuality and work ethic... Suck.
@darianshaw4294
@darianshaw4294 11 ай бұрын
I want to know about the black panther in Tanzania
@ovandocarter6377
@ovandocarter6377 9 ай бұрын
I like this guy
@justafriend3408
@justafriend3408 11 ай бұрын
Tanzania is peaceful, prices are relatively lower and Tanzanians are relatively hard working people. However, whilst the Westerners haven't managed to own the country, the economy is mostly owned by arabs and indians and the government doesn't seem to be doing much to empower Tanzanians to own their economy. As a matter of fact fellow Africans can endure too much immigration crackdown whilst arabs and indians appear to be freely moving around. Immigration officers in Africa seem to be proud of going around arresting and detaining fellow Africans who in my opinion should be enjoying free movement across the continent. Religion is another thing. With Islam being a major religion, people still believe that going to arab countries is what will save them, just like Christian countries tend to suck up to the west.
@Curiousviewer22
@Curiousviewer22 11 ай бұрын
It is not Westernization and Capitalism per se that causes the negative traits where the diasporas get exploited, it is he colonialism and exploitation of the past which introduced a dog eat dog attitude toward the other if they were vulnerable. Think about the mentality of kidnapping and selling other Africans to outsiders. That mentality perhaps persistsyd in part.
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