I enjoyed the moment this was sorta called out in Steven Universe Future with Lars and Sadie breaking up Steven: But when did this happen!? I didn't see any of this! Sadie: that's because it was private!

@@ShinyHydreigonMaster Yeah, but calling something out just to call it out and be like "see y'all, we know" but then not changing anything is... frustrating.

@@thegreatmajora5089 Well yeah it doesn't justify it. I know the whole concept didn't work at all for the show, it was annoying. Just thought it was funny is all.

except when they fell like it

The Great Majora But that was literally in a 20 episode epilogue. They had to focus on other things. A character can’t change that fast.

I totally forgot about that, I already had issues with Steg but now... Raaah, Crewniverse, what do you want fusion to be ?!

Fusion has multiple contexts depending on the relationship of the people fusing, for instance obsidian, the fusion of Steven garnet pearl and amythest is a sign of how strong their family bond is In short Fusion does not always equal romantic it's just a sign of how strong a bond is That's why malachite was so unstable because Jasper and lapis had to force a bond even if neither of them wanted to

@@nikkyonthemoon7719 I think the point they are trying to make is that, by saying that peridot is asexual and doesn't get a fusion, the crewniverse has created a relation between fusion and a sexual relationship, and so both contradicted the claim that fusion can be different kind of bonds, and made the existence of Steg a lot more creepy. If abything, saying that peridot is asexual and aromantic should have been a stronger reason to have her fuse, as it would have strengthened the claim that fusion can also just be a strong bond of friendship, family, or something else.

@nikky on the moon "Fusion has multiple contexts depending on the relationship of the people fusing" So why can't Peridot fuse

@@fabiocandelori9163 Exactly! I've heard people claim that Steg looks the way he does to represent the the flair and showiness of being a music star, but they could have done that without making him look so...suggestive, considering who he's a fusion of. The Crewniverse wanted to have their cake and eat it too when it came to the implications of fusion, but look what happened.

I think things not being properly fixed is kinda on purpose, as the movie's message was that people will keep changing and growing forever and there's nothing that will remain "fixed", which is a good and interesting message but I'll admit that it was handled pretty badly in terms of narration in Future. It's hard to know how we're supposed to feel about each arc's "closure". Also, Steven being there to fix everyone else's mess is actually what has been pointed out in Future. It doesn't make his character arc in the original show much better (well, I like it, but it definitely has issues), but at least they tried to do something about that.

@Nicholas Marashio The writing does have issues but let's be honest here : many shows feature a teenager having to fix everything. The whole point of Future is actually to show what happens once that teenager has nothing else to fix and why him having to fix everything has always been an issue.

That's the whole point of Steven Universe Future... A child shouldn't fix everyone's problems that's the whole point...

Lady Etihw no show ends off with everything being fixed That’s just not how it works

@Nicholas Marashio To be fair SU has the "excuse" of having the majority of the cast being full of aliens who seem to behave like humans but are actually far from being like them and consequently need an actual human to help them understand emotions better, while at the same time having someone who can understand them to some extent. Of course at the end Steven was the only candidate because he is half-human half-gem, that's the point. I'll admit that having him be the center of everything to the point of practically becoming a god was too much though. Also, many characters actually tried to work on themselves without him being involved (he was just the starting point), but since the show is from his point of view, the development happened off-screen, which shows that the real issue from a narrative point isn't that the characters always rely on Steven, but that the show is always from his point of view and he cannot be everywhere at once.

crewiverse: yes

that’s wasn’t even the crewniverse as a whole, it was a noisy storyboard artist who said so lmao

who cares i always thought fusion as a concept was kinky even in dragon ball cause we all know Rebecca sugar got the idea from that show and theirs nothing wrong with using an idea from some other source if you put your own spin which Steven universe did

She's not into fusion at all. She represents the ace/aro comunity and what is the best way to show that? By not making her fuse with someone.

@@joaobernardo1278 But, as is being already discussed into another thread, doesn't representing aro/ace as not wanting to fuse undermine the whole point of fusion being all kind of relationships? I mean, if not being in sexual or romantic relationship is shown as not wanting to fuse, then it is reasonable to assume that romantic love or sex are the only kind of bond represented by fusion, isn't it? Otherwise being aro/ace would have no influence on wanting or not to fuse.

7? I thought it only had 5?

@@kirbyboycoolness6734 there was 6

No there are actually 5 Steven Universe Future is just an epilogue series but I guess it can still be considered season 6

@@mr.crystalflake Well... First season was twice as long as the others and should have started the story sooner

SUF was called an epilogue, but substance wise it really was just a new season with a timeskip

Doesn't help that the stakes seem to get lower and lower

I remember people making fanarts near to the end of S1 to the beggining of S2 about action moments that people are predicted in that time and that never happend. Plus the full opening when the Yellow Diamond appears with Jasper holding Lapis and Peridot doing a bad face makes all get hyped, with everybody think thats could get a big war in the next but nah, Peridot turns out in a gag character, Japer bubbled after a little fight and thats all

@@Lucas66393 Yeah, I get that the show wants a whole conflict resolution narrative which I respect. However, on top of forgiving the biggest galactic threat, not only did it pave the way for any future threats having the same treatment but it also makes any other decision against any weaker enemy to be somewhat hypocritical.

That doesn't sound much different from Friendship is Magic and Star vs. the Forces of Evil, does it? April 22, 2020, 3:02am

@@adamkalb1 It does share the skeezy nature that MLP redemptions became. E.g. Season 8 has the radical nationalist who influenced the country's education practices and helped a demonic child into power get away scott free. However, said child is thrown into prison.

oh yes i HAAAATED that

@@theshockinglyeloquentdog9945 Like, I get that rockers are very free and very jubilant people and that's a mood. But if the internet's first reaction to a bond between a father and son is "God he's SO hot", you might've made the sexiness too high

@@juanpablorobayo9891 not to mention there was no good reason for that...neither Greg or Steven have abs, neither of them act like that...there's so many non sexualized, acurate ways to make them but, no they did.....that

@JournaloftheWiccan Yeah, fusion is handled weirdly. At least we're not looking at the fusions' coding issues.

its like they forgot the nuance of fusion just so they could avoid having peridot being shipped with anyone and ALSO go for woke points at the same time!

She's a literal space Nazi and everyone is like "Aww Stevens grandma so cuteee!"

You put an image of hitler blushing in my head now and i HATE IT

Ok then, pretend it’s the South Park version of Saddam Hussein blushing.

@@clodcollecting51 thanks for that lol

I don't believe her blushing was when she was redeemed. I believe that was simply when she realised the fundamental flaw with her way of thinking. See, White Diamond believed everything she was, said and did was perfect. As such, all those beneath her must try to be perfect too (and would inevitably fail, since they are not her), and to aid this they must do their assigned roles perfectly - hence why off-colours are hated, and why everyone is born with a set task. That whole business with "where's pink," "getting cigarettes," was when she discovered she was entirely wrong about what she said. And then she was embarrassed, accidentally changing the colour of her form; making her imperfect as she's no longer impeccable. So if she can be wrong, and if she isn't perfect, and if what she's created can be and is in fact deeply flawed, what is she to do? Which is where Steven comes in; because she has undeniable proof that her way of thinking was false, Steven is able to step in and introduce her to a new way of thinking. That isn't redemption - she hadn't made up for the bad she had done - that was (as the arc is called) changing her mind. In the movie, she still hasn't completely abandoned her old ways, but she's learning to accept this new era in her life. In Future, I think she finally succeeded in becoming a better person as she made the proactive decision to use her previously oppressive tools to better help her fellow gem, placing great trust in them by letting them control her body. I don't know if any of that counts as redemption (and clearly Steven didn't forgive her if the third last episode is anything to go by - he's just willing to focus on better things), but she definitely isn't someone I can look at and say "she's a bad person." It's like if Hitler suddenly realised that he didn't hate Jews, and decided to take up a simple life of farming. Yeah, I COULD kill him for the atrocities he committed, but he clearly regrets that and has changed his point of view, and isn't that the whole point of punishment? To change people and make them better? What need do I have to go further, except to fuel my own desire to hurt him? That's how I see it anyway.

Exactly. I know that the title of the series Steven Universe is literally his name, but even Spongebob Squarepants has episodes like Plankton's Army, Enemy In-Law or Mall Girl Pearl where Spongebob has some lines but the main plot is through the perspective of another character. April 22, 2020, 3:05am

your comment makes it seems like every episode is in steven perspective but it isnt. There are a lot of episodes where steven's not in.

@@lakeishapatton7862 There are not any episodes where Steven's not in, you just mean there are episodes that are not Steven's perspective. June 4, 2020, 11:20am

@@adamkalb1 Why are you labelling the time and date that all of your comments were posted? Not trying to be rude, just curious.

@@irisaferg2524 I want to remember the exact minute just like KZfaq. August 6, 2020, 9:44pm

Volleyball is the dumbest name ever. I would have called Pink Pearl “Swirl” instead. Why? Because a, her hairstyle has swirls and b, her name rhymes with Pearl. Boom new name.

@@XelginArpex Heck I wouldn't have minded if they went all the way with a reference and called her Leia! Then again, Star Wars isn't an anime.

This is going to sound strange from me, but say if SU was never created and instead there was a story with a similar concept with rebel Gems and a half gem but, the only difference being that this story would have a cohesive narrative. It would be called: Kameron and the Rainbow Gems.

@@XelginArpex that alone would be a breathe of fresh air

But wait, there’s more! Kameron and the Rainbow Gems would be on adult swim since the story would focus on certain topics, but still retain some lighthearted moments like SU. Anyway, the Story would center around our protagonist, Kameron Evans, a Fifteen-year-old half gem who struggles to balance out his human life with his gem life. (Yes, unlike Steven, Kameron would go to school and live an everyday life while helping his family with gem activities) Kameron is the son of a former gem ruler named Green Diamond who would act as a Master Splinter-esque character (think 2012 splinter from TMNT) the rest of Kam’s family consists of his human mother, Christy Evans who is a bit strict but also carries some wit and a strong motherly feel (much like that of Katara). The remaining family members would the other Rainbows: Charoite Evans: a kind compassionate gem who looks kind of sexy but acts as a strategic ninja who gets shit done. Lepidolite: A small hyperactive gem who was a former entertainer on her homeworld. She is an expert on all kinds of love and often tries to encourage Kameron into getting a girlfriend. Pyrope: A tough hotheaded go getter who pushes Kameron to be strong during training while using his anger as motivation. These three gems would have a sibling type relationship with Kameron while Green and Christy would act like Parental figures to them.

gamermaster56 Oh everyone though so. All the gremlin Peridot memes...

You're definitely not the only one. And it really frustrated me because at her best, Peridot is by far one of the best characters of the show, and yet, she's been reduced to a walking joke during half of season 3 and the entirety of season 4, and then again at the end of season 5 and in the movie. In season 3 and 4, it's been more or less explained by the fact that she was hiding things from Lapis and in season 5 and the movie, it was because she wasn't the focus, but her focus episodes are so great, it's too bad there wasn't more of them. At least In Dreams did her justice... It's been a while since I felt like I was truly looking at the character I came to love (the last time was in Back to the Kindergarten).

Peri with the limb enhancers was the best. She was still good without them but then they made her into a zany neon gremlin.

Your not

honestly while I think she may have been a bit to goofy....I still enjoyed gremlin peridot honestly still felt kinda in character(well her goofy side that is). wouldn't say she was just a jok honestly actually though I will say they could have had a better mix of her being serious and goofy though

they redeemed space Hitler(s)with tears prove me wrong.

Not frank I love how after a whole ass war there isn’t even consequences like yellow alone is enough to heal dead people apparently

@@ThatJPGamer and PTSD of being brutally murdered and be awake for mutilation , and clearly no attempt to get the big super monster in the earth

I feel like everyone forgets that Steven was cut SEASONS short due to the Sapphire and Ruby wedding. I feel like all of this development would've happened in the missing seasons. This goes for pretty much any comment under any video criticizing the development of the characters.

@@montiigo I blame Cartoon Network (for messing them up), and the Crewniverse (for wasting their time with filler and not adding more to the episodes).

@Otneimica Doesn't that make him a Gary Stu?

@Otneimica actually not everybody liked him. Lars at the beginning didn't like him at all. He wasn't always a happy fun loving guy either. He didn't have all these powers off the bat and had to learn to control them over time, unlike a gary/mary stu who magically have powers and already know how to use them properly.

@Otneimica Yep, I can totally see that. Imagine the show if he wasn't just born a magical alien royalty with having a potential for diamond level powers? Or being so optimistically and impossibly hellbent on seeing the best in people no matter what, and that just happening to work out in all cases? How would he convince the diamonds if he was just a simple lowborn yet hardworking guy? I appreciate that in the Steven Universe Future he finally starts acting more human at least, traumatic events actually affect his psyche, because this "lalala let's sing a song and a murderous alien will change their mind and everything will be okay" shtick was starting to annoy and bore me to no end. "Yeah, this person just wanted to kill me or my friends, or actually did it, but it's okay, we're friends now!", love everyone unconditionally, even genocidal tyrants, and forget their bad deeds and consequences of them without any real growth or incentive towards redemption. Yep, at the end Steven managed to get EVERYONE in the universe to be on his side, love and obsess about him unconditionally (except two joke gems that pose no real threat, Aquamarine and Eyeball), and if that's not Gary Stu, I don't know what is.

Nightshade 46 Finally, someone who’s making sense. I totally agree.

@@ferrallezz5246 thanks. For some reason people don't know what is a gary/mary sue. And steven ain't one of them i can tell you that

She went from a nice character and stuff, to a character who's so short atoms are a couple inches taller, oh yeah, I think she's only there for memes

@@LemonnNote they ruined her potential, she had the most interesting powers.

I loved the Peridot that we were introduced to. I was okay with the Peridot that stayed.

@@mothergothelisagirlboss5735 I so wish they kept her original costume instead of getting rid of it

Remember The writing team have limitations by the network such as how many episodes were given, how serialized the series could be and other factors. Beimg the creator doesnt equal complete control

@@sydneeblueford3754 ‌Literallt all series are limited. SU had enough seasons but Rebecca has no idea what to do about serious problems and situations. She just wants to force a happy ending without even knowing the solution.

@@sarabaravati5856 I think she knows what she is doing. Otherwise I dont thibk shr would have become Executive producer in the first place. Im not saying the show doesnt have its flaws. Rebecca Sugar may just like to write saccharine endings. Some people dig this shit! I do. Any may other fans have found that charming about the show

@@sarabaravati5856 And if she didnt know how to write serious situations , I dont think many fans or casual viewers would respond with such acceptance to their issues being represented on screen.

@@sarabaravati5856 Plus, I respect your opinion anyways☺

DiamoYTP That’s the difference between being a reviewer and a “super intelligent free-thinking edgelord who doesn’t give a damn what all those over-emotional blind sheeple say!” Remember, whoever came to mind when you read that is only one of *many* who fit the bill.

Purple Emerald Supersonic1014?

It's better than being a channel that constantly praises it

Ferrallezz That...actually wasn’t one of the ones I was thinking of but it still counts SO YES.

My Dad Left For Cigarettes That’s not much of a compliment...why can’t we just have a normal fucking channel that _doesn’t_ revolve around a single extreme uncompromising viewpoint? Both are terrible, and you having a preference at all shows you only like them because they learn more towards your opinions, which is shallow as hell.

You're not wrong. More Peridot would have solved the problem. I would have very much enjoyed an episode of "peridot universe". Which we kinda got when the new gem crew tried to replace the crystal gems for a bit, but, not quite what I had in mind.

Yeah.

Yes. She had amazing character development

Spitting straight facts

You' re right clod

her voice is the most annoying thing i've ever heard.

@@rxtcha2394 off topic but ameythst is kinda annoying and she looks so stupid at 13:14

@@cloudieskye5130 😂🤣

Didn't help that, fora character that's supposed to be an abuse victim, the episodes which show her relationship dynamics show her as the Abuser

Christopher Bennett I know, right? I always got the vibe that it was meant to showcase the “cycle of abuse” or something, but once again, they rushed over that rather than delving into it. In the stranded at sea episode, it was all about Lapis coming to terms with her destructive behaviour in the past, willingly choosing to become better and turn Jasper down when she tries to re-enter their abusive relationship. Within the context of the episode, Lapis was the abuser finally letting go of her delusional victim. Lapis’ dialogue reflects this. And you know what? That’s a great message! We almost never see the abusers in stories willingly stop or repent for their actions, much less change for the better! And having a past abuse victim finally end the cycle of abuse is a really empowering arc. BUT THEN towards the end of the episode, both Lapis and Jasper start using cliche lines that make it sound like Jasper was the abuser (I mean she’s a terrible person, but she wasn’t the one in power). So in other words, the crewniverse _mixed up_ which metaphor they wanted to use. So Lapis addressing her faults as an abuser and growing beyond them suddenly has the thematic tone of her moving past her role as an abuse victim. The actual story and it’s parallels conflict, and so the message is lost in translation. I don’t even know how they screwed that up so badly but it pisses me off because of the morale they spoiled.

@@purpleemerald5299 Yep. Plus, since the show has to have Steven in it, we can never have an episode where Lapis and Jasper just talk.

@@christopherbennett5858 I think they originally wanted to paint lapis as the victim, but instead of adjusting to the situation when they realized they screwed up and made her the abuser, they tried to patch it up and hide their mistakes. In future, we never even hear Jasper talk about Malachite and Steven doesn't care to ask how she felt about it, while Lapis still refers to fusion as a ' prison' and continues to play victim. They actually have to tell us ' just so you know, she was the victim! ' but it's too late. They already showed us that she was the abusive one. They screwed it up.

@@OwlBard Not to mention, this avoidance of the problem makes the show's handling of abuse even worse.

PREACH

@NIklaus MKLSON there is no way she planned the entire show from the start, otherwise she wouldn't redeem the space nazis and retcon Rose as the Emperor Palpatine of this show

@@Bulbz124 and also wouldnt have yellow diamond alternate between space nazi and mourning child every episode

@@Bulbz124 she never intended Rose as a villain. At no point is Rose portrayed as malevolent.

thats literally every peice of media tho

i'd argue in terms of certain time restrictions like in future CN may have been involved

I believe your correct. Most shows don't have such extreme focus on its main character. This comes from Steven Universe weird idea in combining elements from episodic storytelling and serialization. Secondly, I feel its reasonable to believe that the hiatises are cartoon network's doing.....steven bombs...cough...cough. Still many would argue the Crewniverse should have worked around that.

This. This is the perfect summary of my thoughts.

In defense of the crewniverse this IS the first show they have ever written and made. So they’ll get better in the future.

@@ferrallezz5246 that's fair, but often people try to pass off inexperience with "trying to be different ". If they and others acknowledge their faults then they can get better, if they don't then they will only get worse in "self absorbed artistic delusions ".

That shit SERIOUSLY grinds my gears.

That triggers me so much. Not only that, but Rebecca is Jewish, and the most infamous genocide in history went after Jews... let that sink in...

Let's Go! Spirit In Motion Studio if there’s one thing this show fucks up, it’s priorities. Let’s treat a common redeemable party douchebag and a misguided but good natured Diamond (Pink) like demons but say that the warlord, depressed banshee, and eldritch horror are just “misunderstood”, no, PINK is misunderstood, they aren’t.

I'm a little disturbed by Rebecca Sugar's bizarre fixation with victimizing abusers and generally overusing the idea of apologism.

Andrea Morgan the Music Owl I like to think all of these unfortunate implications are an accident, but you never know for sure.

Heart Eyed Racoon I never understood that. The other diamonds did far worse , if anything THEY should be hated.

_I don’t know why I’m hated so much, I tried to change and honestly, I did in the end. And hey, at least I didn’t kill gems!_

We saw her development backwards

@@StarlightUmbra Exactly what people seem to forget

@@StarlightUmbra yea and then she was thrown in the trash. Steven never made peace with her memory, the last thing we ever hear of her is how she inexplicably abused her pearl apparently

Would have been nice to see Steven go to therapy instead of having this solution be done offscreen.

★Breezy Blue★ well it was rushed because they didn’t have enough time left

I think Steven universe future was rushed and the 1 season of Steven universe was useless well some of it

Mr. CrystalFlake They probably should have cut down on the townie episodes if they knew that they wouldn't have much time.

@@mr.crystalflake I call BS to not having enough. If they just get rid of the townie and focus on major characters like Lars in space, Lapis Lazuli, the off colors, Jasper, corrupted gems and Centipeetle, the story would've flown better. Also, 11 minutes isn't such a big issue like they wrap-up and squeeze major stories before like "Mirror Gem", "Ocean Gem", "The Return" and "Jailbreak". So it's pretty much their fault for not properly plan the story

they had to cancel the show after Ruby and Sapphire got married. They've lost a lot of sponsorship that came from conservative countries and had no choice but to rush the story. It's pretty sad, though. SU would probably have had at least more two seasons, and that just didnt happen.

And then when it gets to serialized episodes they just leave more hanging plot threads

Not to mention episodes are normally 11 minutes long. And they made us care too much about the characters. People say kids won't care about this but the show is targeted towards children ages 10 and 12, who would care about the characters and emphasize with them as they do with people in reallife.

to me SUF didnt have much filler it felt like it all was building up to the climax and it felt like it was great for some episodes to focus on the other gems

I do think the finale could’ve been done better, like a lot of other things in the show, but regarding your point about mental health, I think covering mental health was a great choice, since I personally have pretty bad mental health, which keeps worsening

I’m sorry but the mental heath thing was really good. I felt that I could understand why he was struggling and that it related to how I felt in my life. I feel like anyone who has ever had or does have depression or anxiety or ptsd or anything like that could relate to something about Steven. For me I really liked that he mentioned he had gotten a therapist. Not everything was better but he was taking those steps to a happier life and that was important for me

he isn't a gary stu he's screwed up and made things worse like with navy by trusting her and originally he was like the weakest gem

@@jaydenc367 The "screwed up part" wasn't brought up until Future. He trusted Navy not by stupidity, but rather because of his all-loving nature and willingness to redeem anyone, a trait that a part of his messianic image. And the fact that he went fom the weakest gem to the most powerful one, proves that the writers didn't have the plot of the show completely written at the start of the series and the Pink Diamond twist wasn't planned when first season came out.

@@sandi539 exactly and him trusting navy proved he shouldn't just completely trust strangers first let them prove themselves of his trust first. I don't see how steven going from weakest to strongest gem means they didn't plan anything out

And THEN they thought that Gem Jesus being SAD and DOUBTING HIMSELF and having LOW SELF ESTEEM was a compelling character "flaw" as if every teenager on Fanfiction.net didn't pull this exact shit with their OCs because they were afraid of giving them an "unattractive" flaw. "See, Steven CAN'T be a Gary-Stu! He DOESN'T THINK he's PERFECT, he has CRIPPLING DEPRESSION from being TOO GOOD AT EVERYTHING!"

@@gwendolynstata3775 except Steven was actually into a downward spiral into insanity not the same. even before in the original series he was flawed. also if he was a gary stu would he ACCIDENTALLY shatter someone? no he wouldn't

Hey Octomama!

ok I wasn't expecting to see you here Octomama!!!

Octamommy!!!!! I didn't really expect you to be here welcome to chaos also known as the Steven Universe writing.

Yeah, that’s kinda what I was thinking. Either Lars or just a new character that lives on homeworld.

If Rebecca Sugar et al wanted to expand on Lars's experiences, they could have dedicated an episode where he relates a flashback in Steven's presence. They did not, so the mere fact that Lars and the Off-Colors had possession of the Sun Incinerator, along with Emerald's very brief summary, was as much as they were willing to relate. If that's a fault so be it, although that would have nothing to do with the well-established format of the show taking place exclusively from Steven's perspective.

Exactly.

Yeah. She doesn't need to be redeemed, but I still think the crewniverse could have handle her arc better.

I actually agree. One thing I don't get; A lot of people complain that every character including the bad ones get redeemed. So why would they complain that Jasper wasn't redeemed when they complain that every antagonist gets redeemed?

@@fruitcxkes9932 she would've been done more dirty if she had attacked Steven imagine what the diamonds would do to her,since in change your mind the diamonds are just starting to become good or at least that's what they said '-'

I thought they hired another VA is because busmith's original VA had things to do

@@rima4867 Well, that is also a possibility. Two years after her first episode in Season 3, Uzo was able to make a short time commitment for the end of Season 5 and the movie, and one episode of Steven Universe Future before the four-part finale. Maybe she had scheduling conflicts with Miss Virginia before the end of Steven Universe Future, and that is why she needed Miriam Hyman to replace her. April 22, 2020, 3:03am

For an even better example, Sugilite never talked again after her first episode because Cartoon Network and the Crewniverse can't fork over the cash to get Nicki Minaj to come back.

@@CJCroen1393 (as Swiper) Oh, me-an! April 25, 2020, 3:35pm

@@CJCroen1393 cartoon network has a lot of shows do you think they gave all the budget to steven universe

She didnt have any character development imo. Or atleast it wasnt done well.

Her “personality” is tortured soul that inexplicably becomes a moody teen.

@Julie Walker I know it sounds very mean but honestly is hard to make a cohesive story if there's too many people involved. That's why there's a team of writers who work solely on the story as to not lose focus

@Julie Walker I guess having writers is really important.

@@SonicBadass Is important since it means less multitasking. Like the writers make the jokes and focus on the sense of it all and the storyboards push the jokes or emphasize what the writers want to say. That's why most successful shows have a distinguish between the two. For one off episodes is fine but a lore and full on story that's not all that good

@Phương Nguyễn But they had stuff planned in a cohesive way. Since it was about mystery a plotline makes sense. For star and Steven it seems that the writers focus more on what will be meme-able or fun than a series. Which that's why it reminds me of why there's a separation of writers and storyboard artists

I'm curious, even knowing you dropped the show early, did you watch this entire video?

"amethyst shapeshifted into rose quartz so she could get her way with Steven’s dad" I wouldn't say that she did it for _that_ reason, but I do see your point.

TheKiel I did, and while she had some good points, they weren’t enough for me to want to get back in.

​@@Vavalry Well, I'm pretty sure you're not considering anymore BUT... I love the show and I think it's great (with flaws), but I don't recommend you to watch it not even another episode, you'll probably find more of these "amethyst cases" in other gems and even in steven, and even knowing that there are really good episodes, they're worth of nothing if you don't actually like the characters. Have a good life.

TheKiel well...this was a pleasant surprise. Thanks for actually being decent towards me for having a different opinion! You have a good day ok?

Awkward OrangeDrawz yes. Unfortunately cartoon network the fucking retards say ‘lol only 11 minutes bc you dont have good views lOL!

Agreed!

And if they got more time to develop episodes. Not only were stories rushed within those 11 minutes, but the planning of them felt rushed too in a lot of cases.

there are easter eggs if you looked for them though.

You're telling me! Runawaysiren240 made a whole video on why Steven Universe Future should not have existed and ruined Steven's and Greg's characters. Cartoonshi told me why Steven Universe Future was a very bad representation of mental health problems. April 22, 2020, 3:11am

well it's a interesting idea for bismuth some things just are left to wonder. Im not surprised not everything was tied up but it did a good job at giving characters closure

@@adamkalb1 who is runawaysiren240? can't find them....oh nevermind...name is actually runawaysiren 940. already say cartoonshi's video and responded to it....doubt that youtuber would be any different

I completely agree with you, and I thought it was a bit harsh she criticized the show for not making them buddies. I mean, would YOU want to be good friends with people who knowingly left you imprisoned?

i'd say lapis does have a personality jus more of a dead pan one she can be chill tense or just edgy and sometimes just plain weird

@@hawklegs6940 well, the show is about redemption, even when talking about white so...

That'not really a personality jayden.

Red Blueberg I mean, they kind couldn’t tho Maximum Capacity, Rose’s Scabbard, Same Old World, Future Boy Zoltron, The Question The gems have been dealing with these issues for literally THOUSANDS of years and never truly seemed to moved passed them until Steven came along. That’s his role, he’s the HEALER; he fixes other people’s problems up to the point where he seems as that’s his sole purpose. THAT’S THE ENTIRETY OF THE EPILOGUE, finally coping with the fact that he’s actually capable of having problems of his own instead of easily being able to routinely fix someone else’s. It’s sad when you try ink about it...

They choose to center the story around Steven and they remained coherent, I respect their personal kind of narration, but I agree that it has limits.

​@@random_name_was_already_taken That's just it, it could and can be done, but because of how the series is structured it feels like the whole story needs Steven, when in fact a lot of problems and situations could have been handled or solved with other characters alone. Also, I agree; Lapis was imprisoned by the crystal gems, there should have been more resentment and apologies and Lapis shouldn't have become a crystal gem because the diamonds have arrived.

@@redblueberg They are supposed to be fighting for gem freedom but find a gem homeworld imprisoned and just leave Lapis in the mirror till Steven lets get out. Some sort of inconsistent writing there

Captain_Hashtag 64 Finally. Glad some people are making some sense.

I KNOW RIGHT LMAO

Aurora Frappe he dipped

Jamie deserved more love.

Probably in hollywood being a mailman

his house caught on fire and he crawled on the floor until his lungs filled with smoke and he died.

Lmao

Nør 5k1 lol

And let's demonize one of the victims (Pink) and have her never get redeemed.

*you're

KATELYN SHELLOS thanks

People laughed at Slice for voicing his issues with SU, but it turns out he was more right than we all thought.

@@1992holycrap I would've loved to see more sugilite, but Minaj eats up budget like nobodies business. I went along with it, but I was never a fan of Lapis being low-key forced to befriend one of her abusers. I don't even remember peri apologizing to her terrible treatment of Lapis. Terrible example. Slice is amazing, haven't watched him in a minute though.

I wasted since the pilot getting pumped up for this show.

Yeah they all acted like in SUF like they were on something like they got so dumb

I feel like regular show or adventure time were both the best but that was a good show too.

@@Asdrapan yeah those were easily some of the best as well.

Me: Laughs in Gumball

Too Superior 2.0 Laughs in Regular Show, Teen Titans and Adventure Time

Street football is really underrated cartoon.

I wish I could rewrite it duh

@@KazuhaEien KZfaq won't make me type more so yeah that's what I have so far 😂I don't know the name yet but I'll figure it out,I think I'm not that good at naming things ;-;

says you.

@The Great Majora "One thing I really don't understand is why Lapis was even kept in the mirror in the first place." Gems can be used as a power source for their technology. Attaching Lapis' gem to the mirror enabled the use of that mirror as an observation device.

@@kylepope7850 No, I know why she was put there, I don't get why she was kept there by the Crystal Gems.

@The Great Majora Neither does Lapis.

@@kylepope7850 well, would crystal gems like to explain this then? This thing was lingering in my mind since her introduction, I still don't get why the fact that cg still held her in that mirror is never ever addressed.

@SephiZ That's why Lapis was angry. The Crystal Gems never explained why they kept her in the mirror and never apologized for it after she was freed.

That is an excellent idea! Overlooked comment here.

THIS. I still love the show, but the Crewniverse _really_ needed to fight for a better timeslot. It worked back when the show was more episodic, but it stopped working when they went into the more lore and character heavy episodes--it became painfully obvious, even to me, that they had to cram a whole bunch of character development and exposition into a ten minute episode. "Now We're Only Falling Apart" is a particularly good (bad?) example.

Exactly and the fact that the show was gonna end at change your mind pisses me off they couldnt have made a season 6 and 7 and or 8 like even the fans are better at story writing than the actual creators rebecca wtf happened

"they needed two more seasons!" You and I BOTH KNOW that they'd just do more slice of life/filler episodes until the last five episodes that they'd cram and rush an entire season's worth of plot into.

I still want to know who made the diamonds and what was in Rose’s chest.

@@raunjisto2925 sadly we will never know

Raun Jisto same here

this was made after future

And I think we have Spongebob Squarepants? I don't remember! ;-;

@@lana__2492 Honestly don't mind Spongebob but still looking forward to Amphibia Season 2 and tomorrow episode with Harley Quinn Season 2.

I'm glad we got owl house, ducktales (2017), amphibia, dragon prince and hilda.

dc super hero girls? am i out of the loop with what the young people are into?

And the Casagrandes?

The Crewniverse couldn't even handle a black-coded gem wanting to kill off a genocidal dictator, they'd fuck up before they even got to the STARTING LINE of survivors of colonialism demanding reparations on their own terms.

@@gwendolynstata3775 yeah that is true sadly.

@@gwendolynstata3775 Couldn't say it better. THis is also the crew that accidentally made their abuse victim (Lapis) The abuser and, when looking at Human Zoos, used it to draw a Utopia and hot people when this was based on actual Human Zoos in the colonial times.

If anything, it just made it more disappointing for me.

Yeah she has Soo much potential but the Crewniverse left her behind

And like that's literally the only reason

I mean fans have the right to rant on the show but if it was someone who only watched 1 ep, I'd be angry too

@@happybalint Or if it was like most of the people who criticize the show by being all like "So anyway, here's why Steven Universe is the single most Neo-Nazi Alt-Right Pedophilic Rape Apologist Abuse Aplogist garbage on the face of the earth. Most of my points involve talking for the next three hours about how evil and/or stupid I think Rebecca Sugar is."

@@CJCroen1393 A Lily Orchard roast. Nice.

@@CJCroen1393 lily orchard is trashy overall

Steven could have visited peridot and lapis more often! Steven could visit Lars more often and should have done so out of concern for him. Even done in Steven's perspective, it doesn't mean things needed to happen offscreen!

@@hezureviews I agree Hezu! Instead of a bunch of filler episodes I think Steven visiting other characters to see their progression would have been great!

V4R3LA YT Or just have episodes that doesn’t have to relay on Steven being in it. Cuz One of problems in the show is that it has to evolve around Steven’s POV, robbing us seeing any important characters development like Lars and Lapis,or going into more depth into story arcs like the diamonds/homeworld arc. It wasn’t a problem in my opinion in the first 3 seasons, but in the last 2 seasons and even future, it was really big problem as having he show being in Steven’s POV was starting to get forced

@@xanderg.1070 That also is one thing I think could have been solved

@@xanderg.1070 It almost comes across like the crewniverse is promoting a toxic narcissism. Steven: if it isn't about me it doesn't matter. If it causes some difficulty or even gives me responsibilities I didn't ask for it is bad They evidently succeeded in sowing toxicity with the behavior of most the fandom. Take Rose/Pink for example: Rose was a mother that loved her child so much that she with full intent sacrificed her own existence so he could be born, but in this fandom people take that as a reason to hate the character. They say she gave birth to Steven just to so she could run away from her responsibilities and find it hateful that, besides the cool powers he gets, the son also inherits responsibilities from the mother. Something like "it's not fair that he needs to deal with his mother's problems" which denies any material connection between child and parent like a prince should not be king one day or a child should never inherit the farm, shop, house etc. Even Pink LITERALLY SAVING ORGANIC LIFE ON EARTH is seen as a problem in this fandom. "She started a war that killed so many people, emotionally scarred others and left Steven to deal with the consequences" except there is a concept of a just war... and preserving life on an entire planet just might qualify as a just war. White had no qualms with mind controlling even another diamond if they stepped out of line so simply talking to White to let Pink stop colonizing the Earth logically should not have worked. There is even the possibility Pink did exhaust all other possibilities before starting a war... But we don't know that because it wouldn't be Steven focused

true I'd still say even though the very latterpart of the story start getting rushed overall mostly it was a good and interesting plot I may say it's one of the best or atleast close to somethinglike samurai jack despite the animation issues it had some amazing visuals characters story and the music which is probably unmatched by any other cartoon network show or maybe any cartoon i've watched expect for a cartoon theme song as it's debatable which is the best cartoon theme song

Sol Despite its flaws Steven Universe was objectively one of Cartoon Network’s biggest shows ever and it’s impact on western TV animation as a whole will be felt for years.

@@Henryduckfan63 Biggest? yes, sure. Best? ABSOLUTELY NOT

What about Clone Wars or KnD or the old PPG

I was so annoyed because it's mine too.

Eat At Joe's It's a shame, really, thank you.

I feel sorry for you man, the character who is my birthstone went from an actually quite terrifying character, to just an annoying ass

Meanwhile, Kevin is apparently unredeemable despite just being a bully.

It also mean that, quoting a certain Gardevoir fan, the character development is both drawn out and rushed.

We did see Miss Bellum's face and Cow and Chicken's parents are sentient legs.

Technically Double D’s hat is seen as well..... If you win as him the Lunchroom Rumble online game.

@@thehevandragon You mean hair and that game wasn't made by AKA.

Do you mean seppuku?

@@TerretYeth nah