I can vouch for that (bought all books) as they were super minor characters in the books! Basically the scene when you think Johanna accept the two help to search for Hilda only to droved them back home and asked for Alhberg help instead would had deviated from the book plot! I get why she didn't accept their help thought (didn't want to endangered their lives).

I think they would go for as long as they can, but maybe they are short on budget? They did say that the budget making the show are pretty small comparing to other series, and the movie was originally 70 minutes before they asked Netflix for 16 additional minutes. Maybe that is why it fell short?

I don't think David and Frida are even in the book

@@koiby9303 They are in the book but they were minor characters at best.

@@koiby9303 yup, they only showed up as extremely minor roles in the comics.

SAME

Except that when something like that happens in the show (like, all season 2), it is framed as that, as something that unfortunaly happens in real life. Here it is framed as something good, cool, like a sort of redemption for him, while in any other instance it was just him getting the credits. While he was way more humble in here than in S2, he still didn't deserve to be rewarded, yet he was, and wasn't framed as that, it was framed as if he did deserve it

@@drosellie2850 I never got that impression that he was supposed to deserve it. The good bit was him retiring and a much more reasonable and competent character taking his place. Him doing it after receiving a medal he didn't deserve was just proof that one moment of realisation hadn't actually changed him.

Lmao same

Yeah. When self-centered people have the power, this is the best you can get. It really seemed to fit with Hilda being an incredibly well grounded and realistic show within its setting. (kinda reminded me of real life here in Australia a few months ago where one of our state leaders and their deputy retired to spend time with family after a successful career and such things. A lot of the media clapped them off stage. Also she happened to be under heavy scrutiny in a large corruption case at the time, and had done a lot of other stuff I disagreed with too. Sorry for the politics.)

ahhh i see no wonder, they want to expand Frida to be witch apperantice... i dont know where it's gonna go with that storyline....

I would’ve had it no other way

Wait didn’t he turn into a bug.

@@luvblueybingoheeler3150 he turned back to human lol

Yeah, the way I took the medal scene was that he has just enough self awareness to realise how close he came to causing a disaster, but he's still a dick who wants all the credit and if him getting to retire as a hero will get him out the way then let him.

@@wendyheatherwood You ether die a hero or live to become a villain.

I like that he was visibly shaken when he saw the Mountain King's vision in the movie, like instead of just being surprised or scared he gets emotional and says "mother" like he loves his mom much like Hilda or she might have already passed.

I honestly liked that they introduced him in season 2 first before the movie, I swear there’s so many films I’ve seen based on shows that introduce a new villain in the movie and either have that villain get killed off, get defeated and disappear for the rest of the series, or become a recurring character afterwards (Recurring villains aren’t as bad as the previous two since they actually have a purpose even when their main story is over, yet there’s still a problem I have with them) The main problem I have with these types of villains is that the movie either never gives them a fully fleshed out character, either because there wasn’t enough opportunities to explore it in the movie or they don’t explore it at all because it will take up too much time, the fact that we already know what kind of character Ahlberg is because season 2 explored on it a little means that it gives more opportunities for other characters to make appearances, like how David and Frida are actually way less prominent in the books than the actual show but they were able to include them as many of the characters had already been explored, so there wasn’t any sort of problems with character development and inclusion, Ahlberg’s first scene in the movie is so casual and takes up so little time cause we already know who he is, so we never have to think about him so much during the movie as it may distract us from some important scenes

Excuse me WHAT!?!?!?!?

I saw it from a mile away, it seemed really obvious to me.

👁👄👁

@@SarcasticChorus suddenly his appearance makes even more sense, we are looing at a giant galldang plankton.

@@SarcasticChorus tooketh the words from my mouth

Yes I think it even helps to contest the troll’s space w the human’s

Yeah

I agree actually! I was more so shocked when I heard about there even being a Troll King to begin with. While I do have some issues with the Mother Troll not entirely understanding that it was wrong to take a child from their mother, I really enjoyed the trolls!

Maybe its cause I play a lot of Monster Hunter but I really liked seeing all of that, it felt like a very simple and free existence when you know where to find such happiness.

You forgot to mention on a Netflix show with 3 seasons

whats the other show?

@@mataharii161 Kinda spoilers of the series but its Trollhunters

Yesss I love both these shows so much!!

Hilda and Troll Hunters. Technecally 3 Below, too because it takes place in the same universe, and he's a protagonist. But it doesn't show him as a troll, and actually barely shows any trolls at all.

I think the issue that Sarcastic Chorus has with the medal is less with the "Watsonian" explanation, and more with the "Doylistic" side of things. Yes, in-universe, he getting a medal makes sense. However, when we are talking about the show's message and themes... It is a bit weird. In most shows, especially on children's shows and stories with uplifting messages, it is expected that the villains will get some sort of karmic ending in proportion to the harm they've done. (Or tried to do). Well, either that, or they go through some sort of redemption arc, in which they realise their mistakes and have to suffer the consequences before coming back on top (or they die in a heroic sacrifice.) But Ahlberg... He neither goes through a real redemption arc nor does he get any karmic retribution. Instead, after acting the whole season like a fearmongering gloryhog, he gets exactly what he wanted, and is lauded as a hero. Which isn't unrealistic. Ahlberg accepting the medal before stepping down is very much in-character, and it kinda fits with the show's tone. (This is far from the most messed up thing to happen in this series) But still... It is a bit of an unusual writing choice. ^^;

Thing is people are too fucused on Ahlberg gets his just deserts- a jerk to be punished. But look at him. He's a glory hound, chasing the need for validation- to prove something to his ancestors. He spends all his time manipulating, antagonizing, doing whatever it takes because he feels that's the only route to glory- and he's just always out of reach of it. But what actually gets him the medal? Yielding to empathy. Ahlberg's obsession with the medal is as much the means he thinks justifies it as the symbolic reward itself. In a fell moment of empathy he claims his prize in a way that contradicted all his previous reasoning- and he responds by yielding this pillar he built his entire being around: his command. Ahlberg gets a lesson- what he doesn't get is a spanking: a penalty or punishment where everyone points and recognizes it. Oh how we do love seeing our bad guys shamed- and doling retribution. But Hilda continually shows how she's focused on righting things, and not retaliation against the villains. They're resisted, but not revenged. Antagonists are faced- and oft the only characters that know the truth are the them and the children. Like the cloud stealing Meteorologist. Hell the Christmassy Krampus episode- the whole point is the wicked kids punishment just escalates everyone's suffering. That's what I love about this show. It doesn't feed us that cheap untruth that hurting the bad people solves the problem- nor does it sugar coat the sour and bitter pill that righting something doesn't retroactively fix all the pain and loss.

Or, you could stop being so starved for all media to be literally propaganda, that you consider it a flaw when it's not. The fact that life goes on separate from the focus you wish to call "the plot", should be and IS part of every story. It's just more show, don't tell: you could TELL a person is injured by having them wail about how they are injured, or by showing it. But even further, you can SHOW how a person's life, their family, hometown, moves on as she herself is not present, or you can TELL yourself a big handwave of "I guess they've just got their own shit to deal with". If you're out "adventuring", how worried your family is, IS part of your "adventure". It should be as obvious as taking a dip and getting wet for it, and these side stories are a way of showing it.

@@sboinkthelegday3892 Wait, did you reply to the right post, or was it a mistake?

@@nathanlittle6628 this is the point✨

Agreed

Agreed, Aulberg is scummy, but even he could grasp that he couldn't get away with keeping the trolls away from their mother

A fine analysis of Aulburg. Well done.

One thing I remember from S2, was when Hilda asked the Rat King to get Aulbergs secrets, and remember what they said? They found nothing. The reason Aulberg was such a glory hound was because he hadn't accomplished anything on his life despite being a descendent of the revered troll killer. He of course tried to do that by getting rid of the troll menace, Hilda's intervention was what let him see the Trolls as something beyond his success

Who?

The Bell keeper

And also there wasn't Woodman :(

@@Zeynep-mt2hq I JUST REALIZED THAT

his name is Woodman

BarkBoy

his name is literally wood man so you got it right and I don't care that this a year late

Slightly off-topic theory- He is always rude to everyone because he got called Wood Man so much he forgot his real name, and like Sigurd (Revival guy from the Eternal Warriors), "You wouldn't like it if i called you Flesh Girl". Wood Man doesn't like it, but he's forgotten what else to call himself.

@@danjoredd I disagree w u, he was kinda anoying the fiesta season but he gained more confidence and trust in his friends, to reach a point where he offered, a troll some food and stand our for his ideals w her mom

You just absolutely ruined trundle's design for me

ah yes, ive found my people

well no season 3 /:

@@Eveyevy Is it verified already that there's no Season 3? I read "The Mountain King" before the movie and I can no longer find any new Hilda books after that

@@7swordquanta459 from what I have read, the mountain king is was made instead of season 3

@@Eveyevy I heard that it was meant to be the finale but halway through production s3 was announced

The only power Hilda retained when she became human again is being sensitive to bells, so the only thing she retains is autism.

I had that same thought today after watching them explain why the went to the walls, exactly

@@Zee-nd6hc Does this make Hilda a Trollshifter?

Well thanks for spoiling Attack on Titan...

I just assumed he changed his mind after overwhelming evidence that Hilda spoke the truth, sort of like (for the sake of argument) if an Atheist was faced with undeniable proof of a god. Now granted one could argue even then Ahlberg may have been protrayed as too prideful to even make that concession if he felt looking competent to the townsfolk overrode not getting the town destroyed, but I read it as he knew the town would definitely get destroyed if he continued, so really there was only one option left, even if it wasn't his preferred one. Hard agree he didn't deserve a medal though.

@@gregvs.theworld451 I felt that Ahlberg's change of heart was prety well done. When he orders his troops to stand down he appears completely defeated. He knows now that he has lost, his attempt at glory seeking has led to catastrophe and the only way to salvage the situation now is to make peace. And Ahlberg is nothing if not an expert at salvaging bad situations he got himself into. As for the medal, he is precisely the sort of person that would go for it, and most of the city would have no reason to think he was anything less than a selfless hero that faught to defend the city and made peace when he had to. Without the context we as the audience have, he would seem prety heroic. I guess the lesson here is that people dont get what they deserve, and maybe that dosnt really matter in the end.

You should watch she ra. Season one is alright, but every season after that gets better than better.

Kipo is great too!!

Arcane, Bojack, and Hilda is the top 3 netflix cartoons imo

Did you mean Dragon Prince? If not, what's Dragon King?

@@artsman412 imagine httyd but on drugs, good show

Hilda isn't malicious. She's thrown herself into mortal danger on other people's behalves repeatedly, and has even saved the town a few times when she didn't need to stick her neck out. She's impetuous, overconfident, and frankly arrogant at times, but there's no denying her heart is in the right place. If Hilda didn't actively seek out every possible source of danger within 50 miles, Trollberg wouldn't even still be on the map. She and her friends are a magical police force in miniature.

Yeah with Ahlberg gone and All of the trolls good now, there's no good antagonistic force. They did the same thing in the first season by making the menacing and threatening Black Dog just a big stupid puppy. Massive let down. -___-

@@MRDLT00 we already saw that a lot of the people in trollberg still aren't happy with trolls being around, and that some trolls aren't very fond of humans. Im sure we'll see a bit more about Troll-Human relations before the show introduces another big bad.

Remember that in Season 1, there was no 'big bad'. The closest we got to it was Victoria Van Gale and the Hound; the former was a setting-threatening menace who needed to be stopped, but was neutralised in one episode, and the hound turned out to just be misunderstood. Hilda as a show isn't predicated around large, series-spanning conflicts. Its charm for me at least is more in exploring its setting and the troubles and quirks of the population therein. That said, I would like to see Hilda confront another real villain like Trundle before the series' end, if only to see what our scrappy little protagonist and her friends can do when backed into a corner. I'd like to see all the lessons Hilda has learned; about honesty, about *grounded* trust in others, and about thinking things through and making plans like Frida does while still maintaining all the strengths we've seen from her throughout the series; her outstanding bravery, initiative, silver-tongue, and her most important trait, her ability to empathise and instantly connect with others regardless of their background and circumstances. She doesn't have to be perfect about it (that would make her a mary sue) but if she just shows some signs of learning a little from her mistakes; being honest and forthright with her mum or with another adult at one critical moment which saves the day, drawing back from a bad decision because she realises it doesn't feel right, applying a moment of critical thinking before trusting someone she doesn't know; if Hilda can show that she has grown, if not to lose her flaws, then at least come to terms with them by the end of the third season, then the show can close on a truly high note. Having a truly formidable villain that Hilda *still* overcomes through help from her friends and through everything she's learned would be a powerful sendoff for that.

@@bookworm4133 Nor should the humans be happy since trolls will straight up steal their children and dump troll babies on them to raise as this series has shown us like with what happened to Hilda. And those trolls will not apologize or stop doing it! XD

How so?

It was confirmed a while back.

The Sergeant's Will may need to have a rework with the information of the movie.

She straight up steals a child (something the Nissa confirms trolls do on the regular) and even though Hilda calls her out on in, the movie goes on to basically redeem her when she did nothing to earn it. XD

@@MRDLT00 Thre's a specific scene where Hilda calls her out on it, and what does Trylla responds? NOTHING. Wait, worse than nothing; she just IGNORES said question.

@@mesousagaby740 Yeah which had me thinking the film was gonna have her still be kind of a semi-villain in the film....but then the mothers reunite with their kids and we just forget it all like everything's okay again. XD

I am getting the feeling they will be expanding on this in s3.

@@reubencaldwell8494 Man I hope so. Really don't want to let that kind of important story thread get dropped....like David talking with his mom. XD

The shows over.

Guess what? Season 3 dropped, can't wait for his review on it!

The mother troll wanted the baby troll to be closer with the giant mother

@@skips_51 She knew nothing about the Troll mother, she wanted Baba to grow in a more peaceful environment given that within the Trolls, strength is something that gets valued, and a peaceful soul like Baba would not thrive in there

I would have been very upset if they decided to keep Hilda a troll. I have a similar relationship with my mother like Hilda does Joann (idk how to spell her name) and I know I sure as hell wouldnt want to stay a troll, I would’ve liked to stay in the comfort of my home with the woman who gave birth to me

For scandinavian folklore I recomend Vaesen by Johan Egerkrans. It is magnificently illustrated and reading it is a wonderfully immersive experience.

I figured that the point they were trying to make was that the Safety Patrol was on high alert due to the increasing troll activity, leaving their officers antsy. I suppose they meant to contrast that scene with the climax, when the officers were right on the verge of firing their weapons and starting an all-out war, but managed to stay their hand.

There should be a third season which will be the last

Ya, they show them each getting splashed by separate buckets. It definitely looked like they were going to have a body swap sub plot but had to cut it for time.

there’s gonna be one final season.

@@edadankmemes I just keep hearing that the movie was the finale and sarcastic chorus is the only one I've heard say there's gonna be a season 3