it's probably true that nothing would have gotten done if it hadn't been for Maca after 'Revolver' on the other hand it was John Lennon's band --John Lennon was the leader of that band and they would have never gotten out of Liverpool without John Lennon out front in 1963.

@@Sirala6 I’d also add that we are lucky to have had so much more from Paul’s post-Beatles career and unlucky that John’s newly burgeoning phase of creative genius was cut horrendously short.

@@Sirala6 Early on it was Lennon. Later, McCartney..However, that is not a complete thought..Someone posted a quote by the poet, Robert Frost, alluding to this very question. "Which is more essential to water - hydrogen or oxygen?" There was no actual leader of the Beatles. Together, you could say, the two were perhaps the titular leaders of the group, since they wrote and produced the lions share of the material. Lennon, because of his age, at the time, probably was the driving force early on. Liverpool/Hamburg days, yes, I can see that. But I believe McCartney's style of writing emerged as the more commercially accessible, at a much higher rate of production, later on. I think that bugged John all to hell, too, because he didn't respect Paul's style of writing. He thought it to be a bit of fluff, at times. To him, his own writing was superior to Paul's. I believe he secretly WANTED to be seen as the actual leader, which made him resentful towards Paul. He had a humongous ego. It made him much less palatable to a larger audience. In other words, he wasn't as salable as Paul. I know it sounds that I knocking Lennon. Maybe just a little, but musically I have a deep abiding respect for him..Both equally brilliant. YIng is nowhere without the Yang..Just my opinion, for what it's worth.

@@Sirala6you are underrating Paul and what he did for them in the early days. John was never the sole leader from the moment Paul joined. Early Quarrymen members remember Paul leading the music sessions and arranging even then. Early Beatles engineers remember the same thing. John was fine with Stuart in the band just because he looked cool even though he couldn’t play well. Paul wasn’t as he wanted to go far and Stuart wasn’t enough. It was Paul’s song, Like Dreamers Do, that got them signed. So it was Paul who got them the farthest in the beginning if anything and he always pushed them to be their best “I can well remember even at the rehearsal at his house in Forthlin Road, Paul was quite specific about how he wanted it played and what he wanted the piano to do. There was no question of improvising. We were told what we had to play. There was a lot of arranging going on even back then." - John Duff Lowe pianist on their first ever recording, In Spite of All the Danger "I don’t want to take anything away from anyone, but production of the Beatles was very simple, because it was ready-made. Paul was a very great influence in terms of the production, especially in terms of George Harrison’s guitar solos and Ringo’s drumming. The truth of the matter is that, to the best of my memory, Paul had a great hand in practically all of the songs that we did, and Ringo would generally ask him what he should do. After all, Paul was no mean drummer himself, and he did play drums on a couple of things. It was almost like we had one producer in the control room and another producer down in the studio. There is no doubt at all that Paul was the main musical force. He was also that in terms of production as well. A lot of the time George Martin didn’t really have to do the things he did because Paul McCartney was around and could have done them equally well… most of the ideas came from Paul". - Norman Smith, the Beatles engineer up until Rubber Soul

​@@ewest14Great but besides the point. Paul could never attract others to "follow" him. Wings was "Paul" and a bunch of other guys plus Linda. He was not and could never be the leader of the Beatles. Did he have strong opinions and do most of the 'dirty work' in the studio? Yep. By 66 JL was mostly into LSD and GH was into religion. Paul filled a vacuum.

couldn't agree more with this comment. Its important to get a sense of the time particularly with respect to the 60's music. All hell broke out in the 70's (see Rolling Stones Altamont concert 🥲)

How did you find America? Go to Greenland and turn left

Also the Mike Douglas interview sticks out in my mind, although that may just be because it's one I remember watching on TV. Of course the Bed In interviews are classic as well.

Wow, I haven't thought about that comparison of the Beatles and Jesus for years! As a teenager totally in love with music I was bewildered when several of my fellow teens reacted to those comments by destroying their Beatles albums. Thanks for your memory-stirring observations!

Have you ever read "Electric Kool Aid Acid Test" or "Tangerine Dream Flake Baby"? If not then highly recommend. Tune in, turn on, drop out!

@@DawnSuttonfabfour Yes, have read the 'Electric Kool Aid Acid Test", years ago. And the rallying cry of Kesey and the Merry Pranksters (and Timothy Leary) was to tune in, turn on, drop out. I was too young to embrace their philosophy, but I do know people who wholeheartedly did. Haven't read the "Tangerine Dream Flake Baby", also by Tom Wolfe, isn't it? An introduction to the 60s? I'll have to look it up.

Not every type per se. Led Zeppelin, for example, were pretty clearly on their own concurrent trajectory to the Beatles during 1969 that led them to create albums like Led Zeppelin III or Physical Graffiti. Their work has origins far earlier the Beatles, as did many other bands and genres. The Beatles are a hugely integral part of music history, but it's important to recognize that they aren't the be all end all of every single type of music.

@@MedSurg420 All of the bands of the 60's were influenced by the blues (Zep and Stones are obvious examples) or rhythm and blues, including the Beatles. Lets not forget the criticism of Zep for plagiarism, as opposed to being on their own trajectory. Maybe "origins far earlier" was the problem - too close of a copy of other artists in certain instances - their own music, but maybe not quite. Of course today all of it would be labeled "cultural appropriation". So sad. Having said that, George got busted for the same with My Sweet Lord. How could music ever evolve without the benefit of past musicians?

@@bobguitarlearner8007 Kind of unexpected to steer the conversation over to the topic of plagiarism, which doesn't really have much to do with the greater point I was making. That point being, it's pretty unequivocally wrong to attribute "every type of music made in the 1970's" origins' to Abbey Road specifically. But to your point, I think you solved that criticism in your own comment by acknowledging that music cannot move forward without taking from the past and modifying. And in regards to George Harrison and My Sweet Lord, I think we should take the proper care to delineate the difference between 'plagiarism' and 'copyright infringement (as determined by a court of law).' They are similar and often overlap but are not the same thing.

@@MedSurg420 points taken. tks

Don’t do any drugs, as it never does anyone ever good…..it’s a down hill thing to do.

All those coloured lights, flashing!!!

@@DawnSuttonfabfour "I see beams of light, And i hear noises that sound a lot like car horns..." Mitch Hedberg

@@DawnSuttonfabfour Sometimes, in crazy series & color patterns too :)

Quite right. Take 'shrooms instead.

Ah yes, magic Alex!

I was crazzy for Zappa! I don't know why more people back then weren't into him. Went to see 6 times he put on carnival like shows. I know Syed would relate easily to him and his "special intellect". Besides I've never heard any review of him anywhere. (side note: I had Zappa 4 President bumper stickers all over my cars)

@@com4tme So jealous that you got to see him while he was still around!

Thanks for the link to his interview! Now I'm campaigning for more of him. His niche is his own for sure. BTW, I had no idea for like 5yrs that he lived so close to me in the 70s! You never know who's just around the corner! (Get it?)

@@com4tme 😆