“It’s a game so it doesn’t matter” goes onto rant for another 25 minutes about how it does matter

It’s funny but I think you and waste fell into the same trap when talking abt hipster. To waste, hipster is suboptimal in coordinated teams in modded, where every class in min maxing according to their strengths and weaknesses. In general, generalists are worse there because they typically cost a class a bit of their strength (if your driller can’t clear crowds as well as he could then what is he even doing that the rest of the team can’t do better) In your case, it’s the opposite. In solos and pubs, where your builds are not coordinated, everyone needs to build for everything, and so you collectively become worse at dealing with certain situations. However, in situations where the team is getting ambushed by a cloud of mactera, or a truckload of swarmers, it would be better to have someone who specializes in taking out those targets, or else everyone focuses them down, and then there’s nobody to kill the other bugs. Once the team gets tested with a really hard mission with tons of every kind of enemy (and you can have those situations in Edds or even a rlly unlucky haz 5 mission), you’ll start to appreciate how much quicker you could do things if everyone picked their targets according to their strengths. Of course, there is a limit to both. You shouldn’t spec so hard into a role that you can’t do anything else, but you also shouldn’t generalize so much that you aren’t helpful to a coordinated team. It rlly shows that while drg isn’t particularly balanced, it can get away with it because of the variety of ways you can play the game. Different builds do different for different play styles, solos or teams, coordinated or pubs, modded or vanilla etc.

One note about the Dreadnought shell, armor breaking doesn't matter for it. In fact, weakpoint bonuses don't apply to the yellow health bar at all, because it's not armor, it's just a second health bar you have to drain to damage the actual health.

So I finally understand what this situation reminds me of. There was a lot of discussion in the broader FPS community around the game design of Doom 2016, Doom Eternal and Ultrakill. In Doom 2016, you have a deep ammo pool for each weapon so you could stick to using a few weapons you prefer and not touch others and you'll still be able to complete the game even on the higher difficulties. In Doom Eternal, that was no longer the case. Max ammo was constrained, and you are forced to use all 8 weapons interchangeably and combo them together to even really play the game. Mobility was expanded, too, so the game expects you to master Doomguy's movement to a higher degree. Later on with expansions you also have to juggle a few throwables and a few tools. It's a different design philosophy where the game tries to force you into the infamous "fun zone" where if you stick to it and do what is expected of you, you do really start to feel like an unstoppable god of destruction. Ultrakill is not like that, you can complete it with just the starter pistol if you want because the game has unlimited ammo, however it still has deep movement mechanics and weapon interactions that allow you to do absolutely wild stuff such as punching shotgun shells to make them go faster or reflect railguns off of coins tossed into the air for massive damage. Under The Mayo did a video where he disapproved of Ultrakill because of its perceived failure to _force_ you to switch guns around like in Doom Eternal, which he was flamed for and there was a bit of drama around it because he came off as a bit elitist and inflexible, as if the Eternal way is the only right way to play FPS and from now on "good" FPS should force you to play that way. Which is not the case, games are supposed to be fun. Here, this is basically the same kind of discussion. Yes, you can play DRG on Haz 5 with only using the Hipster M1k, without ever touching your secondary even. That's absolutely fine. However, eventually it just stops being fun or challenging. If you try the same approach on modded Hazards, it just doesn't work. There are way too many bugs even for Hipster. You won't be able to kill the most dangerous bugs fast enough nor will you be able to hold your ground against hordes of smaller bugs. However, when you look at the game in the broader context, you notice that the 4 dwarves have between them 8 guns, multiple throwables, and mobility tools. Familiar is it not? It's the same choice. There will be players who prefer to stick to the generalist guns which are comfortable, but these players will face difficulties coping with challenging scenarios or constrained resources. There will be players who prefer to specialize to the max, and play in a team which, collectively, will use every one of their 8 guns all the time against different targets by playing off each other and performing sick combos. These players will feel like Haz 5 is underwhelming, and will install mods to increase the challenge to the level of their team's true ability. Vanilla DRG doesn't force anyone to play a certain way, play any way you find fun. But if you struggle with increasing the difficulty you play on, you should try to specialize and avoid generalist weapons. And maybe find a decent team of players who know what they are doing. This also avoids the plateau of DRG lategame when the weapon overclock grind is complete and there is not much game content to engage with. You have to create your own challenge and figure out if you still like the game even when it stops holding your hand. And there is external content tailored to players who feel that way.

"Shooting again" is why I find it fine to take blowthrough when I build Hipster on certain loadouts, especially when I run Cryo Bolts and Pheromone Canisters together. Such a delicious, delicious cleave build.

Are Axis and waste gonna have Hipster beef now? I think it would be cool to see these two content creators do a collab like what Axis and Lazy did with gold!

Wow... that resupply drop onto the hiveguard.... That might be the most rock and stone thing I've ever seen.

the gold saga is over, let the hypster saga commence

Nice explanation and points! Counter argument : me no like spam clicking. If i want something fast firing(which is most of the time) i just pick one of the other two primaries.

AK really out here going "I'm better"

Why so angry?

You're making it sound like there's a vast chasm between Hipster and non-Hipster builds for generalist use but I have never found that to be true. How are blowthrough focus shots not better for grunt clear than Hipster where you have to aim for weakpoints? And focus shots still blow Hipster out of the water when you want to kill that Acid Spitter, Trijaw, Menace or Warden across the cave which is not an uncommon situation at all. Yeah Hipster is a bit better when you come across Omen or a random Dreadnought swarm and your team is full of greenbeards who die instantly but how often does that happen? I'll give that Hipster is better in solo compared to team play though.

Axis, everyone knows this is a jab at waste's vid but that tumbnail is just low. Deliberately including the purple L in the top right as an immature jab, pretending you're "dunking on goons". How old are you man. That's why people in the community get so annoyed at 'tryhards'. I don't really care about the debate at this point but stop trying to artificially create drama, even if you don't mention him directly

bro just directly say its a response to the other video 💀💀💀💀 axiskronos try not to be passive aggressive challenge (impossible)

I think High Value Targets should not be confused with priority targets, because the latter depends on your class. Consider this: say you're a scout in a full team in the middle of a swarm. There is a sea of grunts, two menaces and a couple of macteras. What do you shoot first? Correct, you take down the menaces, and cryo the macteras while you're at it. And now, *if you don't have anything better to do,* you might as well shoot some grunts, because otherwise you're just leaving firepower on the table. Now picture a driller built for sticky flames in this same scenario. Do you bother sniping down those menaces with your subata or TCF or something? Obviously not, you have a horde of grunts coming towards you, and you have a goddamn flamethrower. But now those are gone, and one of the menaces is still burrowing around. Naturally you shouldn't ignore it, even if someone else is focusing on it, you can always help kill it even if it's just by setting it on fire, and especially if it's by freezing it. HVTs are usually considered to be things that can do lots of harm individually or in small numbers. Priority targets are what YOU as a given class would be best suited to deal with in a given situation. HVTs are Scout's priority, but that doesn't mean they have to be the only things he shoots. You have a gun. *Use it.* Of course, this is all in the context of teamplay, where the strengths of different classes make up for the weaknesses of others and/or complement their strengths. Solo, on the other hand, is a different story, because there you can grab hipster + fire bolts like Axis did and pulverize everything in your way.

My man literally made a 28 min vid talking about the monke mode OC in response to a ''Sorry, Axis. Not sorry''.

17:00 how do people think like this? Yes the classes are different, they specialize at killing different enemies, which is why they should focus on those enemies, but focussing on an enemy type never means not killing other enemy types too. Drg is a horde shooter, you get run on by pretty fast enemies, at the end of the day you are defending yourself and teammates from dying and not wasting revives/HP, so when a horde of enemies are after you, the gunner isn’t always gonna be able to kill every single grunt, they aren’t even all aggro toward them. I just urge these people to try and play like you would solo, yes you know your gun is good at certain things but at the end of the day you kill grunts in solo, not your teammates.

"Spreadsheet warrior", you still mad at lazy for being technically right about gold ? lmao

Generalist usage for a build is huge in pub and solo play due to the abundance of random events. Your build is bad with robots? Here's a Prospector. Bad at HVTs? Here's Trijaws, Menaces and Wardens together. Bad at burst DPS? Here's a Korlok. Bad at holding an area? Here's a Tritilyre deposit. Needs specific terrain to work? Too bad, your next mission is in glacial strata with a giant vertical tunnel. Doesn't have an accurate weapon? Here's a Rockpox Swarm Can't kill dreads? Here's a random dread. Can't break armor? Here's a Stingtail. (That's why I run a HyProp/ECR Lok-1/Mine Engineer, can do everything with a benefit of being the best Industrial Sabotage build)

Like 3 min in and there’s a segment about how Hipster turns a flick gun into a tracking one …there’s a big “AI Stability Engine” shadow being cast over this topic lmao

If you dare to ignore missed breakpoints, and just "shoot it again", taking any implications from raw total damage as nitra/ammo efficiency is a fallacy. Because if you just stack 500 healthbars of bugs altogether, you can't say you need 2 full ammo loads if full ammo load total damage just because one full load is 50% worth these 500 healthbars. You will lose on overkill. M1K-18 clipsize is the actual build that can care not about where you shoot your bullet. It both has blowthrough and time to kill a grunt pack because it has... yes you got it - it has the breakpoints. It does it cheaper and you still can just spam the full DPS of it into whatever target you like. And yep, M1K-18 is a hipspam build. It only uses focuses for long range and T5 utility. I mean, sure 6rof is better for dopamine if you get dopamine from shooting your gun as fast as possible. Otherwise if one asks for "most ammo efficient M1K build" you either take the breakpoints into account or keep your blind total ammo fallacy with you.

You can freeze the vents on the caretaker!?

4:13 no, focus shots also have perfect accuracy and allow you a bit more time to aim between shots. come the fuck on. basic facts.

Engie is technically good at everything.

Knew this video was coming. Could smell the salt the moment I read Waste's thumbnail.

This entire waste vs Axis fiasco could've been resolved easily if both parties actually talked to each other and came to an agreement that the difference in their respective playstyles makes all argumentation null and void. Hipster is a generalist, in a game where completing a mission on the highest difficulty is far from hard. So, if anything, it's adequately powerful in that context. I do have a question though: why prepare for exceptions? You can ignore a korlok, you can ignore an OMEN. And, in the context of M1K, there is very little the gun is not good at (Hipster or not), so while this OC exacerbates the generalist side of M1K (in a more hipfirey way), it's not by any means the end-all be-all of M1K overclocks. It's just good. That's it.

The thumbnail is outrageous ngl

no amout of beeing good at game will validate you to express your opignion like a jerk

An important part that is overlooked is that hipster does what base M1000 does. What I mean is that with hipster, you can maximize chances of hitting an enemy with more shots. You touch on that when you talk about "shoot it again." I kinda want the Scouts AR to get an ammo buff across the board. The AR's strength is shooting again, really fast. Whenever I mod for rate of fire, I run out of ammo faster, often at inconvenient times. I'm on controller, so that ability to have controlled shots on M1000 helps ammo efficiency. This video made me wonder what other reasons I would take hipster over any AR build.

axis joker arc begins

aka, “In Praise Of Generalism”

Ok *drinks randomweisser*

I don't know what hipster is and at this point i'm too afraid to ask

I feel like a lot of this community disagreement probably does revolve around the necessity of role progression in particular. If I’m loading into a modded difficulty with several other skilled players you’re coordinating with, and we all know what we need to be doing, then yeah one could say scout’s grunt clear is notably less relevant, and that he really needs to focus on the HVTs while other dwarves do what they are best at, so maximizing even the minutiae on picks on enemies like Tri-jaws is important and notably valuable. You touch on that when you comment shortly on modded difficulties. In such a case the driller for example is going to be good enough with sticky flames or whatever to clear the grunt lion share out, and the scout can provide a lot of value shooting those HVTs in particular (as there’s a lot of them to go around). Whereas in contrast, if I load into a random haz 5 game with players who aren’t role compressing in that same way and may not be as good, something like hipster shines in scenarios where you have to be good at multiple things to save the rest of the team or to pick up their slack, or just for shooting down myriad threats in solo. Hope this doesn’t cause some long term beef. Obviously Waste took a humorous shot across the bow in his video, and there’s some of that in response here, and it seemed to upset him. It just sounds like some back and forth shots across the bow to me, but it seems like Waste took it harder than that (maybe he saw it as harsher than I did or I just didn’t catch on to the extent others may have).

As a focus-fire only guy, i can respect hipster for its accessability. Focusfiring takes alot of brainpower for me, so im glad there are competitive dps options for those who can't or don't want to clutch out a higher high with appropriate minmaxxing

25:40 had a good laugh hearing this 🤣, your playing haz5 bruh

Option 1: minmax weapons and overclocks, synergize with teammates. Option 2: Hipster go brrrrrrrrrrr

The summarization of this 28 minute video, is play the game the way that you like to play it. Tryhards are going to play differently, because they think it's fun. In a cooperative shooter, you can legitimately BOTH BE RIGHT, but maybe you shouldn't play together, you are going to just argue constantly about min/maxing.

As a novice gunner player the damage that scout can do to a single enemy is brutal.

i think part of the issue is that conceptually, it turns a sniper rifle into an assault rifle

Hey Axis. For a lot of this video the gameplay shows you using a boltshark build that utilises fire bolts and taser bolts. What's the rationale behind this? Personally taser bolts are the last one I would take with fire bolts, so I find this choice quite confusing.

You just need to play at a higher difficulty where you have to rely on your teammates and focus on specialization. I don't think your problem is with hipster, it is with the difficulty you're experiencing at the experience you are at.

my simple argument 9:02 patrol bot would have been dead if you had let say ASS and could actually HIT the weakpoint and kill it

I don’t even use the M1000 at all because the gun shooting on button _release_ feels weird and gross, like I’m playing with high latency. I tip my hat to M1K Scout mains.

The thing that catches me on hipster is that, if I wanted a gun that I can use to spam fire at the bugs until everything dies, I’d just use the other two primaries that do that job WITHOUT needing to give myself finger spasms

7:52 try to butterfly click, its helping a lot with that

What I’ve found in my time of playing scout as long as I have the boomerangs it solves all problems.

didn’t know ya could freeze the caretaker’s vents

I can agree with the "kill HPM" thought. Every time i tried some very specific weapon build to counter X i, at some point, got into a situation where there's not X. Or when there's very little X coz classes that like to shoot more kill them faster than u. And then u want to take a resupply coz u're out of nades/secondary/flares and u notice that ur primary is 80% full or something.

I'm curious, in the gameplay around @14:00, why are you throwing cryo nades at the top of the caretaker?

I like these insight vids

Base M1000 - You need to be accurate. OC M1000 - You need to be more accurate. Hipster M1000 - Accuracy through volume of fire. EFS M1000 - *Braincell deletion intensifies*

Hoverclock 13211 or 13221 does the same shit hipster can do at a similar DPS but you also get hoverclock. Use minimal clips if you don’t need Hoverclock. It’s missing nothing and it works on every mission, exactly what you asked for

I came after watching waste's hipster video. I agree with your points, but I have my own reasons for not using hipster. First things first. It kills my wrist. I go through periods of needing to let me arm take a rest, but I don't want to make that worse. Second is my playstyle. I have tried numerous times to use hipster, but I cant adjust fully to the hipster strategy. I find myself using it just like a base mk1 build and I'm worse for it. Also I would like to say that I like to focus on HPTs, but when it is reasonable. I make sure my builds are fully capable of killing any enemy at a moments notice as when you team goes down, you're gonna need it. Love your video🙂

I did not know u can freeze the caretaker

Most weapon mods I use and don’t get the most out of immediately but hipster first time I used it felt it was strong but saw how people felt about it online and figured I must be missing something. Ty for saying it’s ok to use hipster lol

Great video. Its always good to call back to your past statements and highlight where youve learned and changed your thinking.

Idk why people talk so much about hipster while ignoring the real problem OC for the m1000, electrifying focus shots. I mean, what synergy! You can use the Zhukovs OR the Boltshark! Even the coveted Inhibitor Field Generator pales in comparison to it

why run WP when you're going cryo bolt in this vid? would BT not help immensely in this scenario? I understand WP if you don't want freeze in the build though

Ironic that the OC called Hipster is the most versatile of them all

If you struggle with swarms tzks cyro nades makes every biter a one tap extremly satisfying

literaly the same thing with scout in MVM from TF2. If your job is colecting cash it doesen't mean that you don't have one of the best primaries in the game and unbinding the attack button isn't the best idea.

I think a cool video to do would be to play a mission with electrifying reload bc it seems really cool but i don’t know how to play it well so seeing you try could help me a lot

This game gets a ton of recognition for for not being toxic. It feels bad to have the major content creators bickering.

"if the target is alive then you havent put enough lead into it"- my brother who doesn't even PLAY drg

Im primarily a haz 5 true soloer and I originally did not like hipster. It wasnt even because I thought it wasnt optimal or something, it jsut didnt feel good. But coming back to it with the simple mindset of, "just kill it" it was a whole other thing. I do think its an important distinction to make between teamplay and generalist/ non modded solo but I think there is definetly some blurring of the lines that can be done. Its rly nice to be able to have diversity in builds and play styles at high levels of game play. Will definetly be experimenting with mroe hipster builds in modded true solo and teamplay!

i actually like mini shells for a similar reason. the ammo economy and versatility is well worth the small direct damage loss. being able to hose down swarms and pick off isolated medium size bugs with only an additional shot or two (if that) while never sweating the ammo is good, imo. good for me, anyway

9:57 The M1000 doesn't use magazines, it actually legitimately uses clips, specifically stripper clips.

Minimal clip > hipster Change my mind

You know DRG's new seasonal content didn't click since community is still nitpicking at best all-around overclock.

I think the best example you give in this video is "super-cooling chamber is going to kill a praetorian slightly faster, but when I turn around and find three slashers, which weapon is going to be better?" Having a secondary that makes up for your primary's weaknesses doesn't mean that it doesn't have them

I think that this goofy debate in the community is so funny, including AxisKronos versus all the other KZfaqrs about if Hipster is good or not.

Appreciate the Bonelab OST

28 minutes and not a single compelling argument. Amazing.

Everyone has his own playstyle and while you have fun you do everything right.

i strugled to figure out my scout build all the way to late gold promotion. Every build felt bad against certain enemies and when all my teammates die i felt like i couldnt do anything. Than i unlocked hipster (the LAST weapon oc i unlocked :C), never toke it off since

just watching him play cryo bolt makes me relaxed im doing it bad and how i can do better but i like hipster so im using it

I use hipster but solely because it feels more consistent than stock. The hitreg of the m1000 feels HORRIBLE doing chargeshots for me. So sticking to hip firing just feels better and more consistent

After watching this half an hour rant video, I am convinced Hipster is bad

Hipster is a jack of all trades, master of all

I think stepping away from numbers is the right take. Deep rock is an easy game, and min maxxing each engagement with a bug misses the forest for the trees. its about how it feels in a mission or in a swarm not a testing room.

I agree to many points in the video. Mostly that Hipster is very safe generalist OC that will be fit for every mission/situation because there is nothing more bullets can't fix. However, something overlooked about focus shots is that they are always 100% accurate. Sprinting especially fucks up M1000 accuracy, more than Hipster can make up. So a lot of the shots at bigger distances can either miss entirely or at least miss a weakpoint that considerably increases dmg/dps. E.g. it will be much easier to land 2 charge shots to kill a Spitballer or a Menace with SC before it even has time to react. Than spam entire magazine of Hipster to only maybe kill it. Another overlooked fact is ammo efficiency vs breakpoints. Hipster is considered "op" with how much more ammo it gives, but paper≠reality. Since it takes 1 more shot to kill a grunt (most common enemy), you are actively spending more ammo per every grunt you kill. And also waste larger part of clip size leading to more reloading. So the real benefit is smaller than it may seem. Especially considering you can take ammo+blowthrough on stock M1000 and still maintian onetap in head. Lastly, this may be VERY specific, but some enemies have breakable weakpoints. Meaning they benefit more from weapons that overpenetrate and gain full damage boost. Than weapons that break the weakpoint immediately with lots of small damage instances. E.g. extreme example, there exists a build for M1000 SC that lets you oneclip haz5 4 player bulk (6000hp) in one clip using IFG. Each shot deals 1201 damage and barely doesnt break blisters in one shot. It is effectively the fastest and most ammo efficient way to kill a bulk (apart from leadburster lmao, that one is broken). But as you said, every specific scenario will always have that one build which is better in that specific scenario. Hipster excels in being versatile and not caring about what you encounter and still being good enough.

nos that elctricity work on dread, i can say that elec shot is almost as versatile as hipster

7:20 shoot it, again?

I'm so... Conflicted about this all, sad? Maybe? But it's so difficult for my brain to feel ok with wether I'm trying to play hipster or active stability system, I always feel like both are missing... Something, and no matter what I do it always feels like I'm missing crowd clear

ok

all the ocs are cool 👍🏻

Hipster is green it just has a different play style to normal m1000 if hipster has more mag size yeah this would have been a S-tier OC.

Fantastic points! Personally, I feel like hipster is fine, not overpowered, because a big part of how I look at builds is 'versatility'. Notably, not combat versatility, which is what you discussed for most of the video. Instead, what I look for (and enjoy) the most in overclocks is *build* versatility, where I consider how many builds said weapon/overclock/upgrade can fit in, and especially *meaningfully synergize with*. There definitely was a point where I played hipster (and thought I always would) and enjoyed its general power, but at the stage of the game I am, hipster is unfortunately boring because, as you've stated, your primary solution to nearly any situation is simply "open fire until it stops moving". As for how I address combat versatility? Simple. I look at the *build*, not the weapon, to see how effective it is across a wide spread of situations. Carpet bomber doesn't have the HVT capabilities I need? Good thing BRT packs enough ammo to spare for situations I'm not expecting, or if need be, power picks can help make up the difference, 4 ammo at a time. Finding solutions for builds like these to *make* them work in every possible situation is one of the few things I still enjoy about the game, and it also keeps me on my toes, learning new builds, playstyles, and seeing how they perform in a wide variety of situations. 15:58 (I was gonna delete this tangent about nuances I've noticed in combat versatility but since you asked, you get the full essay this time ;D) Part of the reason why Hipster is so good is because the only versatility it lacks, one of player position (and even then, only slightly), is completely covered by the class it's on. Hipster loses a lot of effectiveness when it lacks any weakspots to hit, or in very close quarters where you can't afford to fully unload without dying. Fortunately, a large portion of scout's kit is geared around circumventing this, with cryo creating damage multipliers when there aren't any reachable ones left on the target, and the flare gun and grapple ensuring you're never caught unawares and you always have a way out of any corners you might find yourself caught in. Gunner's minigun has the raw sustained output (usually) to not have to reposition to hit weakpoints consistently or need damage multipliers to outgun a horde, but against HVTs whose only counter is movement? Gunner is stuck relying on Dash, a well-placed zipline, or the catch-all shield to buy enough time to get things back under control. Part of why I've played a lot of engineer lately is due to his weapons playing heavily with these limitations, where his weapons are all extremely versatile in one or two aspects (PGL for enemy distance and amount, BC for enemy weight class, Stubby and Loki for range where warthog ignores damage typing), while still having significant weaknesses (usually what you choose between, as well as ammo in general, due to none of the weapons having enough sustain for a whole swarm barring one or two exceptions). This lets me craft a build where I have weapons intricately weaved together, to counter either enemy weight class, amount, or even positioning, with my favorite build (yes, ECR+VIR+shredders and twin turrets) resulting in a full arsenal of weapons that all cover each other's weaknesses without leaving me dry. Also, regarding class roles in combat: while I definitely agree that the mindset of limiting yourself to only one role is detrimental, when it comes to prioritizing what you do first, it's definitely worth remembering that scout *can* fight bugs effectively, it's definitely more time-efficient to have scout spend five seconds mining than a whole minute fighting, and vice versa for gunner (driller and engi get more leniency due to having more versatility overall). In a situation where both bugs and minerals exist, it's more efficient for classes to focus on their specialties when they can, but that obviously doesn't mean that scout should be ignoring the spitballer or leech or prespawned grunts reaching for them if engineer or gunner (or long-range driller, I won't judge) don't pop them immediately.

Simplicity's Strength. Pretty damn powerful, in my opinion. Both the wording and the greater concept at play.

Very cool web spitter with 10% opacity webs :/

I want this OC very badly, but every time I see a lithophage outbreak mission I need to do I just log off the game lol.

I do agree with a ton of this, but my gas recycling + aise dread build is one of the most fun and effective ones I've got, I will not stand for this anti dread aise slander

It´s funny how people think about stuff you do when "sniping", despite equipping an overclock, that essentially turns it into a better Subata (I love Subata)

i think the answer is shoot more bullet

So nerf hipster?

I have about 400 hours into the game now, joined during season 4. I have actively avoided playing only one class: Scout. I felt that the "best way to play scout" of doing nothing but running away from grunts and shooting acid spitters and mactera or whatever sounded miserable. Maybe I should try scout. EDIT: Shitty attitude is a bummer, but otherwise I can really appreciate the opinion that players should just fucking shoot things and do everything they can to be helpful

Scuze me? Gk2 is bad against dreadnought armor? Do you actually take the measly 20% weakpoint damage, especially when you have ai stability engine, over 600% armor break?

I pick every scout OC option on blanks and promotions and forge. I even save scum to enhance the chances. If it would drop, I'd understand what you're even talking about. Soon.

The reason hipster sucks is because it prevents you from taking the actual best overclock : Hoverlock