This video is an historical reconstruction of a Roman Rite mass as it would have been done October 4, 1450, 18th Sunday after Pentecost.
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@fabrizio4835 жыл бұрын
As a Catholic, I feel cheated by the fact that the Church has taken this away from me.
@mosesking29235 жыл бұрын
It was given back with Summorum Pontificum in 2007. Just get together with people in your parish and ask the priest for it.
@Agus392115 жыл бұрын
@@mosesking2923 It's not the same one.
@mosesking29235 жыл бұрын
@@Agus39211 I'm not sure how much about Catholic liturgy you know about. However, I'd like to point out that the Missal of 1962 (the current Tridentine missal) is identical to the missal of 1474, aside from added feast days. Aside from the three genuflections at the agnus dei (perhaps a regional practice) this mass is identical to the tridentine mass which I attend every week. Hope that helps.
@Agus392115 жыл бұрын
@@mosesking2923 Do you know any website where I can read more about it? I attendt to the FSSPX mass that is almost identical to the tridentine mass.
@anmap5 жыл бұрын
@@mosesking2923 I would also add to the list of differences these 2 things: the addition of St. Joseph to the Canon, and the revised rite of the Holy Week in 1956 was incorporated into the 1962 missal.
@jakepimentel3 жыл бұрын
Am I seriously going to drop everything I'm doing and sink 1 hour of my life into an impulse decision to watch this? Yes. Yes I am
@moravianmargrave65093 жыл бұрын
No single minute is wasted studying history and worshiping God lmao also their vocals are superb
@LVpops3 жыл бұрын
I just had to hit the' read more' button on this comment. Nice ending.
@angelt4543 жыл бұрын
You can see the historical recreation every week at your local fssp, sspx, and icksp parish
@rob78007 жыл бұрын
it's ashame the majority of Catholics will never experience the majesty, reverance, respectfulness, and beauty of the Latin Mass. A beautiful way to worship Our Lord.
@krishyyfan51535 жыл бұрын
the Eucharist is more important than liturgy...that is where you should focus your worship..
@lamamadeltopo845 жыл бұрын
Keep praying and moving promote the mass as much as you can and show a better life example and people will come
@domburton5 жыл бұрын
@@krishyyfan5153 lex orandi lex credendi. Look it up and do a bit of research.
@krishyyfan51535 жыл бұрын
@@domburton yes that's right...law of praying is the law of believing...the simplicity of the Novus Ordo makes it ever more beautiful as St. Jerome said... "Where does the 'amen' thus resound like the thunder of heaven, and shake the temples of the idols? Not that the Romans hold another faith than that of all the Churches of Christ, but that they have a greater devotion and SIMPLICITY in believing. " ----(ST. JEROME, 400 A.D.)
@domburton5 жыл бұрын
Well looks like the church screwed it up for 1400 years while it was said in latin. Glad you're here to fix things. Maybe tell the hoards of people who apostatised since your glorious novas ordo was promulgated. It's in the vulgar and they still don't get it.
@ElizaDolittle3 жыл бұрын
This is the way it was meant to be. The priest was supposed to lead us all into prayer to God - that's why he faced the altar, not the parishioners. By facing the parishioners the focus of the congregation was on the priest, not on God. When the priest faced the altar we were ALL experiencing God together. The focus was on God. The priest only faced the congregation during the homily and when he administered the eucharist. This is so beautiful.
@CenterPorchNP2 жыл бұрын
When I was learning of the Latin Mass before attending one, I was told that the priest facing the Crucifix was because he was acknowledging his place with the congregation as a sinner in need of the grace of God in the Mass.
@abrahamthepoor3633 Жыл бұрын
We still do this is the Orthodox Church, our doors are still open to you Brothers and Sisters!
@idgafidgaf3059 Жыл бұрын
@@abrahamthepoor3633 so does our catholic brothers and sisters of eastern rite. Honestly, i almost considered converting to orthodoxy because of the preservation of your divine liturgy. I almost did until I knew all these things about vatican 2 which began around 1962 onwards. I'm a devout catholic and I am all for TLM to be back and have a deep respect for tradition but I also don't want to turn my back on st Peter's successor by going to orthodoxy. I won't leave the catholicisim just because of its errors because I know orthodox ain't perfect either, its just that the errors of the catholic chucrh are more magnified throughout the world because it's the largest. Along with the 23 eastern catholics, I will have faith on what Jesus himself promised that the gates of Hades will not prevail
@abrahamthepoor3633 Жыл бұрын
@@idgafidgaf3059 God be with thee Brother.
@bsrsharma Жыл бұрын
@@abrahamthepoor3633 My first reaction on seeing this video was that I recognize Orthodox service in that. Not having a piano/organ music and only candlelight (no electrical lights) intensify the experience.
@mr.blister48562 жыл бұрын
I am a roman catholic, and I attend the traditional latin mass every week. I knew all of these hymns and prayers.
@admiralbob77Ай бұрын
Highly unlikely, as the subdeacon would have been singing from a Ratisbon Graduale, which isn’t the same melodies as a Solesmes Graduale as used since 1908.
@mr.blister4856Ай бұрын
@@admiralbob77 I recognized many of them
@rockswapna3 күн бұрын
@@admiralbob77 Most of what he is singing are the prayers and hymns that we use now in TLM. I could follow this video with my 1962 missal. He is also singing the (normally) spoken parts of low masses and the responses that the laity now say.
@admiralbob773 күн бұрын
@@rockswapna Yeah, that wouldn't be what I mean (if you're using that standard, most of those "parts" persist in the 1969 missal too). What I mean is that he's singing Ratisbon/Medicean chants, which are not the melodies sung today, as revised by Solesmes in 1908, and they definitely are not keeping you behind a Rood screen at any FSSP mass.
@barbararickman85437 жыл бұрын
Even though this production was done in Swedish, I understand the mass, thus, proving that we need to return to the Latin so that all may attend anywhere they go on the face of the earth.
@andrewburch36945 жыл бұрын
Vernacular can have its place in the liturgy, but Latin-at least for the Ordinary and sometimes for the whole Mass-has that great advantage. I (and the documents of Vatican II, as many people seem to ignore) agree that it should be promoted.
@francophone.4 жыл бұрын
There are other rites that are in communion with the Pope (and thus they are Catholic) which do not use Latin as a liturgical language. The Latin rite, however, is far larger.
@necksquad32224 жыл бұрын
@@francophone. We aren't talking about other rites here. And the Eastern rites have their own liturgical languages as well that are not the vernacular. There are Divine Liturgies completely in Church Slavonic for example.
@francophone.4 жыл бұрын
@@necksquad3222 I made no reference whatsoever to vernacular languages. Rather, I made my comment in response to the statement "we need to return to the Latin so that all may attend anywhere they go on the face of the earth".
@necksquad32224 жыл бұрын
@@francophone. Well it should be. If you're a Roman Catholic then Mass should be in Latin anywhere that you are attending a Roman Mass
@eduardoschiavon56523 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful. I attend the Latin Mass in 2021, and I would be able to attend the Mass with people from 500 years ago. This shows the Catholicity of the Rite, its Universality, not only in space, but also in time.
@albebelt3013 Жыл бұрын
This is even before the traditional latin mass.
@TraditionalApologetics Жыл бұрын
@@albebelt3013 This is before it was codified. Eduardo can pretty much attend it would be similar.
@andrewburch3694 Жыл бұрын
@@albebelt3013 This is the Traditional Latin Mass according to one of the various late medieval uses of the Roman Rite (which differed from the 1570 form only in secondary details of later origin).
@SlaveofGod7777 ай бұрын
the creed in this "recreation" is wrong, it even says "descendit in caelum" 💀I never recalled a part saying Christ descended into heaven
@aldolopez19783 жыл бұрын
6:42 Asperges me 11:30 Kyrie 13:20 Gloria 18:55 Alleluia 20:50 Lectio Divina 23:08 Credo 40:17 Sursum Corda 42:12 Sanctus 42:50 Benedictus 47:23 Pater Noster 48:56 Agnus Dei 55:06 Ite Missa est
@richardarlin14723 жыл бұрын
Even more wonderful than the TLM we have now that has become evermore attractive even in Sweden.
@paulbryancatolico36162 жыл бұрын
@@richardarlin1472 its still the same.
@rafael64212 жыл бұрын
pretty much the same TLM we see today
@nickschmidt6300 Жыл бұрын
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@francisobi6851 Жыл бұрын
Lectio Divina IIRC is different from the "Lectio" or "Lesson" in this imitation of a 15th century Mass. But thank you for posting the time stamps.
@elenagallie70037 жыл бұрын
As a music specialist, it would be criminal of me not to inform the blog here that in my humble opinion all the chants are from the Missale Romanum or the local breviary which would have had many Roman chants in it. What is haunting is the silence and the richness of the meagre resources. It is a simple but incredible achievement.
@Oaktreealley5 жыл бұрын
Elena Gallie Thank you
@RomanusVII4 жыл бұрын
When you say “Roman Chants”, do you mean Gregorian Chants or the older Old Roman Chants that sounds similar to Eastern Chants? If you know what I mean.
@jesusacuna3093 жыл бұрын
@@RomanusVII the "old roman chants" are a product of Marcel Peres. He is a wonderful musicologist, but his group, Ensemble Organum, is primarily artists, and they make a lot of creative decisions, pulling from different music traditions because it sounds good. And it sounds fantastic. But if you want to hear something more authentic I recommend you listen to Gregoriana Amsterdam and Les Chantres du Thoronet (whose founder, Damien Poisblaud, is actually a member of Ensemble Organum, but I find his realizations more believable). kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbWJiNeA0LjagYU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j-B7qcmWvKyWhGg.html
@timothymacdonnell90792 жыл бұрын
The chants are more haunting in tone. Do we still use these chants in TLM or these chants predate them?
@lucindabunda21062 жыл бұрын
It is not the local Breviary but the Holy Mass for the 18th Sunday After Pentecost. Look up your Daily or Sunday Missal Latin and English either St. Andrew or Roman Daily Missal of Fr. Lasance it is there.
@RobbySuits4 жыл бұрын
As a regular Latin Mass goer, I feel totally at home with this video and understand everything about it...and that is so beautiful and so Catholic! Imagine how many Saints can say the same!
@micoolkidfilms32705 ай бұрын
This isn’t the TLM, the current TLM comes from the Missal of 62, this is pre Tridentine
@PeterRiello5 ай бұрын
@@micoolkidfilms3270 Definitely correct, but the TLM mainly just unified the liturgical expressions that had developed in the Roman Rite during the few centuries before. So the Mass portrayed in the video would be pretty similar to a TLM.
@RobbySuits5 ай бұрын
@@micoolkidfilms3270 It is the Traditional Latin Mass, it is the Mass of the Ages. There were minute changes throughout the centuries with a clear tradition based in liturgical precedence. The Mass of the Council of Trent codified a liturgy that was already mostly in place with regional differences. The TLM is not just the 1962 Missal. Th 1962 Missal is the most recent iteration of the TLM. Can you spot the differences between the 1962 Missal and say the 1910 just by attending?
@Zhar5557 жыл бұрын
OMG, I'm actually understanding the latin speech based on what I hear every sunday at Mass! (no, I haven't studied latin)
@kikamen6 жыл бұрын
That is why the Catholic church should keep using latin as its language, “catholic” meaning universal. 200 years ago, a Catholic would hear the same mass in Rome and the Philippines. Nowadays, in the so-called era of globalization, this is no longer possible.
@ahcokris6 жыл бұрын
yes, that is the beauty of catholicism. we all understand the latin from being at Mass. =) have you tried praying the rosary in latin? if you haven't I cordially invite you to give it a try...but then once you try you might find yourself on a slippery slope to becoming a rad trad catholic. like me.
@bigman78565 жыл бұрын
Same here as well! If you’re around Latin long enough you end up getting the gist of it :) right now I only understand several prayers and parts of the gospels, but I’m sure a few years later I’ll have a better understanding.
@omendjadi4 жыл бұрын
I’m not into the mass but man those haircuts rock!
@patriciamariecunningham3064 жыл бұрын
Oh my God you understand the language of the Angel's, you must be so highly favoured by Heaven, so blessed are you. I am trying 2 find this holy Mass, the links I have dont often go in on time and so I miss my holy Catholic Latin Mass most Sundays, would you have a link that you could share with me plz, I am on Facebook and messenger also I have an email address, patriciamarie Cunningham is my Facebook with an image of the very old house blessing image of the Sacred heart of Jesus, also I am asking of you holy person of God plz prayers for an ongoing very old hurt that's so very painful and very disturbing , causing me all over health problems , also my dad Vincent who has dementia and baby Arthur who's sick, hes my friends little baby, bless you a million
@martin-45810 ай бұрын
My translation of fr Piltz words for those interested: "500 years ago, the universe seemed much more intelligible than to us. The whole existence was more boxed in and framed in a long line of ceremonies and behaviors which for the people at that time was self-evident. The most important in all this was the Holy Mass, that crown of loaded words and actions that surrounded the central mystery of the christian faith, that Jesus again became human, under the gestalt of bread and wine. We have reconstructed a high Mass from 500 years ago in a regular Swedish parish church, in Endre church about about a mile east from Visby, Gotland. We imagine that we participate in this High Mass an autumn sunday in the middle of the 1400s. It is the people of the village that participates in clothes typical to that time and we have to the best of our abilities tried to reconstruct how a Mass was carried out in the diocese of Linköping at that time. Gotland at that time was part of the diocese of Linköping. The mass was celebrated in an incomprehensible language for the people at that time, Latin. But at that time, mass was not understood as a communication of information, but rather as worship in front of a secret. Just as we can't describe what is fascinating about a melody or a face, in the same way we dont need to understand or describe that which is the central mystery of the universe. The people of the parish are waiting for the central moment when the bread and the wine is transformed to the body and blood of Christ. The priest is helped by an altar boy, perhaps a talented youth who the priest discovered and who eventually will be sent to Linköping to attend the cathedral school. The songs, mostly out of the Bible, is sung by the cantor at the village. We dont know exactly how the music was conducted in the churches of the middle ages, maybe Endre parish was paricularly lucky to have a qualified cantor as we will see now. The parish mass on a sunday began with the priest sprinkling holy water on the congregation, this served as a reminder that through their baptism they were now members of the Christian church. The holy water should drive away all the forces of evil. Let us now place ourselves in the middle ages, let us try to apprehend the atmosphere in a normal Swedish parish church in a time before man seemed like he was cast out in a desolate and cold space. In a time when Europe was one unit and when the central mystery which everything revolved around was that Christ, through Virgin Mary, had become human, had died and ressurrected for all."
@patriciahovencamp40347 ай бұрын
Thank you for translating.
@MMihm4 ай бұрын
Vielen herzlichen Dank für die Übersetzung.
@servus_incognitus3 ай бұрын
Very good, with only one objection: Latin wasn't as incomprehensible to the various Europeans (and in particular, Northern Europeans) peoples at the time as you might expect. After all, after a whole life of participating in mass and Church cerimonies, people picked up a lot, and they prayed almost exclusively in Latin. Despite not being fluent obviously, they could grasp enough to pray along, memorize the main prayers and know what they mean. It's just like growing up as an immigrant in a foreign country and slowly picking up the local language. My great grandparents for instance prayed in Latin, despite being illiterate even in their native language, and despite living in a much less religion oriented society than in the Middle Ages. I myself can attest to it, by attending a Byzantine Rite parish and slowly being able to make out and undertanding some Greek words from the Liturgy. What he said is still valid and true to a great degree though.
@robinsullivan314120 күн бұрын
Thank you for the translation!
@martaacosta441517 күн бұрын
Thank you so very, very much. I am indeed grateful for this translation. In fact, the first paragraph is quite beautiful.
@lehuynguyen11755 жыл бұрын
I pray that one day, the Traditional Latin Mass will be restored!
@nickrossi57305 жыл бұрын
its never coming back and is gone forever. God is punishing the world. this is the end. all the latin masses today are not true priests or true masses. study.
@lehuynguyen11755 жыл бұрын
Nick Rossi Your word contain nothing but trash!
@nickrossi57305 жыл бұрын
sadly its not trash. you dont know who pope paul 6 was. go to vaticancatholic.com and find out the truth.
@nickrossi57305 жыл бұрын
@@lehuynguyen1175 stay home and pray the true mass of st pops pius v from a 1945 missal. that is what true Catholics have no choice but have to do in the world today. also, please watch KZfaq "papal impostors" and google THE FOUR CHAPTERS BY FR JOAQUIM SANS Y ARRIAGA. good luck.
@lehuynguyen11755 жыл бұрын
Nick Rossi You said that the Mass is gone forever! Then tell me if that word not trash, then what it is? There still true priests who celebrate the Traditional Latin Mass I have been watching vaticancatholic.com for more than 2 years!
@latinmasschoir55817 жыл бұрын
We sing the same introit NOW as was sung then. This eternal liturgy shows the power, efficacy and legitimacy of the old Mass. May it return everywhere throughout Christendom
@adolphCat3 жыл бұрын
At no time in history was the Latin Mass the norm throughout the World. Yes, it was the norm in Western Europe and some parts of Eastern Europe.
@GQFJB3 жыл бұрын
@@adolphCat it was declared the mass of the ages at Trent, And this version of the mass was before Trent. When the Pope says that the Tridentine mass is the “Mass of the ages” during arguably the 2nd biggest crisis in the church (the first being the crisis going on today). And the Jesuits never reached Oriental Asia until the 1600s, Catholicism was next to none before the Jesuits in most of the world.
@adolphCat3 жыл бұрын
@@GQFJB So what do you think of Sarum Rite the pre- Reformation Rite of England or the Gallican Rites of ancient Ireland and France. Or Eastern Liturgies such as the Liturgy of St. James or St. John Chrysostom? Is not the Liturgy of St. James mush older than the Tridentine Rite? What makes one Liturgy the Eternal Liturgy? Now, maybe you are from the vicinity of Rome and so favor for cultural reasons the Tridentine Liturgy, but why force it on other areas of the World that it is not native to? I know many Churches in Lebanon have historically used an Aramaic Liturgy, Aramaic is the Language Jesus used, is the Liturgy of Rome so superior to the Liturgies of the rest of the World? Is Rome's Christian culture superior to all other Christian cultures?
@claesvanoldenphatt99723 жыл бұрын
This notion that because it’s good it should be universal flies in the face of the history of liturgy which has usually enjoyed a lot of diversity. Why would the gothic style suit for example Syrians? The chant and ordo are alien to their deeper, more ancient worship traditions rooted in Syrian and Hebrew Christianity. Likewise Egyptians have their own heritage that has withstood Greek-Roman Imperial persecution. Should Armenians worship in an alien language only distantly related to their own when their nation was the first to embrace Christianity as it defined itself separately from Persia? You need to reconsider that Christianity does not belong to Europe.
@adolphCat3 жыл бұрын
@@claesvanoldenphatt9972 I believe that many Western Europeans are under the mistake belief that Christianity 1st established herself in Western Europe. Just like it is impossible to be a Protestant and know Church History in the same way it is also impossible to be a Traditionalist Roman Catholic and know Church History. St. Peter never offered a Latin Mass, the 1st Liturgical Language used in Rome was Greek, latter on this was changed to Latin because it was the Latin was the most understood Language in Rome. I think it is imperative to educate people on the 1st 1000 years of Church History. Every people and race should have a liturgy that conforms to the Spiritual needs and mentality of that people group. For people of Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Africa, and Middle East all have ancient Liturgical expressions that do this. The bad thing is that American Indians, in neither North or South America have this as of this time in History and the Faith and commitment to the Church needed to do this is lacking in our time. This may be the work of centuries, when these people slowly adapt the Liturgy given them by the missionaries to their needs. The Church is united throughout the World and throughout time in One Faith, but from the very beginning Liturgical expression varied from one location to another. Sts. Cyril and Methodius, were not afraid to translate and adapt the Liturgy in their missionary efforts among the Slavic peoples, may they pray that all people groups will have and continue to have good Liturgical Rites. Amen!
@christinescheiner51947 жыл бұрын
Mass was changed when I was about 6 years old. My mom said, "Oh no, I don't think so!" and we never went back. Abuses and novelties have multiplied in these fifty some odd years. Let them knock themselves out, they will be back some day. In the meantime, I have my Tridentine Mass. This is our inheritance as Roman Catholics.
@jesusacuna3095 жыл бұрын
Times have changed, it isn't as bad as it was back then. Reverence and the love of liturgy and art have come to the novus ordo. And the youth are responsible. In my parish, I and some other young people taught ourselves gregorian chant. This will be our second sunday mass tomorrow. Our rather young priest exclaimed that his dream of celebrating a fully Latin mass is slowly coming to frutition. Unfortunately, he is being returned to his home diocese, in Mexico. I'm going to ask if we can try to do Good Friday entirely in Latin.
@Gaminglord1235 жыл бұрын
@@jesusacuna309 I am new to the Catholic faith (former Protestant turned Orthodox catechumen, now investigating Catholicism), but I can confirm that the Novus Ordo mass is now better reflecting what Vatican II intended, and not what heretics turned it into. The parish I attend has the NO mass, but it is very reverent, and some of the hymns are sung in Latin by the choir. Beautiful. There is a Latin Mass parish nearby that I plan to visit soon.
@jesusacuna3095 жыл бұрын
@@Gaminglord123 yep, that's the other thing. There are a few odd churches, but in general yeah, it's becoming more reverent. I have my own reasons for believing the old rite itself is better (though the Novus Ordo is, of course, licit and valid), but the church isn't as bad as it was in the 70s. Have you been to an Eastern Catholic church, there might be one near you. Or an Anglican Ordinariate church
@Gaminglord1235 жыл бұрын
Jesus Acuna I looked around but unfortunately there are no Eastern Catholic Churches within about 30 miles of where I live. The Latin parish I plan to visit does have an ordinariate mass on Thursdays I believe, but I’ve been enjoying the Roman rite NO mass I’ve been attending so I’m not really looking for another rite.
@jesusacuna3095 жыл бұрын
@@Gaminglord123 that's good :) I do believe that because you're orthodox, you would be automatically become an eastern Catholic by default because of some ecclesiastic laws, but I'm not sure. And Welcome home :)
@johnobeid675 жыл бұрын
This can’t be a Mass, surely? I mean, people are actually praying before and after Mass (not having a loud chat to everyone), the priest didn’t tell any jokes, there were no pop songs or guitars, people received Holy Communion in a pious way, the Host wasn’t dropped on trodden on, there was no clapping, people stayed around and prayed after Mass etc etc.
@reggiestickleback77944 жыл бұрын
Dominic Nonsense, it was ironic and a criticism of how the novus ordo often turns out. You don’t have to be a sede to adore tradition
@zakuro85324 жыл бұрын
Back then it was quite dangerous not to go to church. There were witches demons were today everywhere.
@itsnando204 жыл бұрын
Dominic he was sarcastic and mocking the no mass
@johnobeid674 жыл бұрын
ItsNando20 Yes, that’s right. I was being sarcastic. I thought that was obvious, but I apologise if I offended anyone. Absolutely, the TLM is the most pious way to celebrate the Latin rite. It’s sad that we have been robbed of this in most of our churches in the west. The east still does the traditional Byzantine rite, which is also a liturgy of immense beauty. God bless.
@Tom191423 жыл бұрын
@@reggiestickleback7794 but you need to be a sede, in this situation, to be a Catholic, and not just that, also to assume all the orthodox positions that the Church teaches. You can't accept a heretical council (Vatican II), you can't accept heretical "priests" and neither heretical "popes", errors are totally wrong and must be rejected, they endorse the errors like salvation outside the Church, and if you refuse that dogma, basically means that you don't believe that Christian-Catholicism is the true faith. Then there is also baptism of desire (and blood too) which means that is not totally necessary the baptism of water even if Christ commanded the apostles to baptize all nations. They also promote false ecumenism which is not the true ecumenism that the Church always taught, the ecumenism of return, and they even promote "solidarity" to false religions which are of the devil (as the Ancient Testament says). What about what Francis just said about gay "marriage", those who defend him say that the translation from Spanish is incorrect, yet many medias say that he actually endorsed gay civil union, which even Life Site News and EWTN confirm, two Catholic channels on youtube. Francis also said that "Orthodox" are brothers in faith, which is false as all Christians are united in one body which is the Catholic Church, the "Orthodox" refuse also the figure of the Pope and Papal Infallibility, approve only the first councils, refuse Filioque, approve the heresy of Palamism and more. What about Pachamama? We can't deny that Francis did what he did as many "Catholics" have been outraged from that pagan worship. Too many things are clear, only a fool keeps accepting those things and in the end tolerating them. Even if I exposed all these things which are known, I'm not saying that Catholicism is something of the devil, instead is the opposite, is the true religion of the true God and all people must be in the unity of the Catholic Church and in state of grace to be saved. What we see is Vatican II, the Vatican II Counter Church described in the Apocalypse or Revelation which will replace the physical structured of the Church (Rome example, that will lose the faith as our Lady in La Salette said, that doesn't mean that the Church lost the faith, is impossible, She said Rome, not the Church) we also see Vatican's II heresies and its bad fruits which are more than clear. Do you know Vaticancatholic.com ? Visit their channel and sincerely judge if they are saying the false or the truth kzfaq.info
@aquariuskiwilog7 жыл бұрын
This is a Swedish production, had no idea it existed thanks for digging it up! Catholics are nowadays (after persecution) a small minority in my country and our priesthood seems sometimes overwhelmed by the amount of work they do for their parishes; and yet I have heard none complain. Keep them in your prayers but more so of course parishes in other parts of the world that suffer persecution more immediately.
@giusepegari7 жыл бұрын
Thank God for the good priests who keep their faith.
@zyrtec37 жыл бұрын
Keep strong, Andreas!
@kingofcelts7 жыл бұрын
Andreas Björn I'm sad for what has happened to your Sweden. But don't feel alone, we here in Ireland are making all of the errors that you Swedes have made in the past in your Country...
@ginterka3819965 жыл бұрын
Go to SSPX church.They have swedish priest.
@krishyyfan51535 жыл бұрын
SSPX are heretics in rebellion against Rome...
@vivianpinto18117 жыл бұрын
I Remember n my childhood, Latin mass,The way we respect to the holy sacrament,Ladies are covering their head,etc etc,Now everything is changed,I wish that days should come back
@festivegeneral9725 жыл бұрын
It still exists in a remnant of Catholics who have stayed faithful to traditional theological teachings, and dogmas of the Holy, Roman, Apostolic, Catholic Faith, outside of which there is absolutely no salvation. Search SSPX [Insert state/province, country name here] or SSPV [Insert state/province, country name here].
@andrewburch36945 жыл бұрын
Vivian Pinto SSPV is hugely problematic-it leaves the sedevacantist question open-and SSPX has (lesser but real) problems of its own. Many places offer the Traditional Latin Mass with full approval from Rome. Look for THOSE places (FSSP, ICRSS, etc.).
@kaiser02.y4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewburch3694 what are you talking about? SSPV is sedevacantist indeed, but SSPX? They are in communion with Rome; not the modernist one, but with the Rome. The ICKSP, GSI and FSSP are not fully traditional catholics. They accept the modernist and "pastoral" Vatican Council II, which is full of heresies against Church's doctrine.
@lemonvariable723 жыл бұрын
@@andrewburch3694 Well the sede question is open, as the question of a pope teaching heresy was never settled, but the overwhelming majority of theologians taught that if a pope taught heresy, or was a manifest heretic before he was elected, like benedict 16th was, they lose the office of the papacy
This video was made together with the Parrish, Kristi Lekamens Katolska församling i Visby, and sung in one of the medival churches of the Island of Gotland. Anders Piltz, the Priest is a proffesor of latin in Lunds University and also a Catholic Priest. The Cantor is Mattias Östborn also Cantor at the Catholic church of Visby. Al this happend some years ago.
@BrianAtwood697 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that information.
@fr.gregblevins98257 жыл бұрын
Yes. Thank you. I'm a quarter Swede (my maternal grandmother was born in Sweden), but I do not understand the language. Can you summarize the introduction and the homily for us?
@Hrugnir7 жыл бұрын
+Fr. Greg Blevins It should be said that the homily is in Old Swedish, which is fairly difficult to understand today...
@shapeshifteraa56044 жыл бұрын
So this is not a historic recomstruction, but a valid mass.
@rhodesianwojak20954 жыл бұрын
@@shapeshifteraa5604 i think so
@asylumlover6 ай бұрын
THIS IS INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM CHRISTIAN, BUT NOT CATHOLIC, YET I HAVE LONG APPRECIATED THE TRADITIONAL LATIN MASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS A STARK REMINDER OF WHAT LIFE WAS LIKE FOR TIME IMMEMORIAL, BEFORE THE CHEAP TACKY MODERN WORLD THAT WE KNOW WAS EVEN A DREAM IN ANYONE'S MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@astrophel33023 жыл бұрын
I only started going to the traditional latin mass 7 months ago and I understand what's happening for the most part without my missal. We really need to not let the extraordinary form die.
@yutupedia73518 ай бұрын
what about when they read the gospel? and the bible in latin in the old times i dont think that was helpful for keeping the people in the catholic church (i mean if they cant understand they will go to any "other" religion)..
@francisheperi41806 ай бұрын
@@yutupedia7351 I beg your pardon?
@lucindabunda21062 жыл бұрын
I am following the Mass 18th Sunday After Pentecost. Da Pacem. Amazing! This was celebrated in Year 1400 still the same in 2022? Mass never changed! All prayers are exactly the same. I am following it in my St. Andrew Daily Missal in Latin and English. Oh My So Beautiful!!! Jesus is the same yesterday , today, and forever. Blessed be God forever and ever!!!!
@user-dj3hl7bl3t7 жыл бұрын
Europe, what have you done with your Baptism ... Very beautiful service. I'm Russian, and brought up in the Orthodox tradition. And this service of the 15th century I really liked, apparently, because it is very similar to the Orthodox Liturgy.
@avginkel6 жыл бұрын
Follow the Tridentine Mass. You will love it. At the moment however, Rome is in the claws of heresy and apostasy. But the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, which must be the same in essence in Russian Orthodox, will never disappear. It will just be celebrated one day in private homes,.
@avginkel6 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mZlildWJvd6Zm2w.html
@Cryptinox5 жыл бұрын
Come home to the holy catholic church! If you want something similar to the orthodox find a byzantine catholic church!
@Tom191423 жыл бұрын
The "Orthodox" Church is heretical, only the Catholic Church is the only true Church, all heretics and pagans are called to convert to (traditional) Catholicism.
@user-gl7je2os7c3 жыл бұрын
@@Tom19142 No, Orthodox Christians are schismatics not heretics. Proddies on the other hand...... ;p
@elig577 жыл бұрын
As someone who's interested in both history and historical linguistics, and as someone who's studied Latin for four years, this is really interesting to watch.
@TheTimeDetective422 жыл бұрын
Gosh you are so proud of yourself!
@LukeShalz Жыл бұрын
@@TheTimeDetective42 you're jealous
@milesbertrand370210 ай бұрын
I studied Latin for many years before I learned that there was a such thing as Mass in Latin and that it’s said even now in many places
@bruno-bnvm10 ай бұрын
Don't hear the haters, good for you man.
@E.Peretica9 ай бұрын
@@milesbertrand3702 So, have you ever attended one?
@khoivu10007 жыл бұрын
There is an immense sense of sacred!
@ursulapainter57875 жыл бұрын
"My spirit rejoices in God my Saviour." I can fully understand this response of Mary in the temple after viewing this worship of God. The Mass was never broken and did not need to be "fixed." From a purely cultural standpoint, the modesty of the clothing brings out the character in the faces of the men, and the beauty in the faces of the women. Thank you for giving us this worship "in the beauty of holiness."
@christopheragro19534 жыл бұрын
Note the following differences between this mass and some masses in our time: 1. People praying in the church, not socialising, not swapping jokes or stories, but devoutly praying. 2. The ladies have their heads covered. I have gone to traditional masses where the ladies were no veil. 3. No humour. No jokes. No anecdotes. Just the mass, and that is it. 4. No extraneous music. No pianos, flutes, guitars, drums, or even organ. Just Gregorian chant. 5. No "altar girls", "inclusive language", lectors (
@christopheragro19534 жыл бұрын
Of either gender) or "extraordinary ministers of holy Communion". The priest distributes the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus Christ solo. Lastly, an air of sanctity, not jocularity, festivity, or frivolity. Sanctity.
@dannileonard23813 жыл бұрын
Dude, I wouldnt wear a buqua and I wont wear a veil for the same reasons. If you wanna go build your own private "No girls allowed " church/clubhouse then maybe you should invent a TARDIS and go back to the 14th century.
@itsnando203 жыл бұрын
@@dannileonard2381 why not? The Bible teaches to cover what is sacred such as the heads of the female. The sanctuary is only for servers and ordained members of the clergy because the whole purpose of serving is for vocations.
@user-gl7je2os7c3 жыл бұрын
@@dannileonard2381 all girls/women are welcome, but they are not to serve at the altar is what he meant
@_Gaby_9503 жыл бұрын
@@dannileonard2381 Why are you so rude? Mandatory veiling of women in church is a Scriptural teaching (1 Cor 11). No one is talking about a boys-only clubhouse; we reject Eucharistic ministers of both genders and altar girls.
@oaesiir56767 жыл бұрын
When Catholicism looks like this again, I will be interested. Nothing more and nothing less will save this religion and bring God's mercy than proper practice of the Faith
@SpecimenB7 жыл бұрын
Not a lot has changed.
@krzysztofkruczynski37897 жыл бұрын
There is loads of that kind of Mass out there. Google the latin Mass phrase. It's the same traditional Mass, most popular is roman rite, the video presents the dominican rite.
@FRAGIORGIO17 жыл бұрын
C R: The rood screen was a medieval use largely. There had been pillars around the sanctuary earlier with beams on top.
@danieldepaola7 жыл бұрын
I've found you!
@barbararickman85437 жыл бұрын
Parker Make a concerted effort to find a Catholic church that has as part of it's liturgical life, the celebration of the Tridentine Rite, which is what this is. I understand it in its entirety as I am a member of a church here in CT that celebrates mass in this form each and every Sunday. This is a recreation of the mass in 1450 but, for me, it is 2017. This mass is ever ancient but, ever new.
@dobermanpac10645 жыл бұрын
Almost word for word to the Holy Mass I attend every Sunday.
@johnkusske75353 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@MartinLuther1056 жыл бұрын
Dear Lord, bring back this form of mass and save us from the desecration’s of the Vatican II lords supper. Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, Ora Pro Nobis.
@deegobenwick18275 жыл бұрын
Sorry.. Its Miserere nobis
@deegobenwick18275 жыл бұрын
I dont see any church here. Just something called Novus Ordo.
@deegobenwick18275 жыл бұрын
@DAvif Bazrn I dont follow the Novus Ordo but the Catholic Church. Period
@krishyyfan51535 жыл бұрын
Those Traditionalist heretics polluting the internet with their hatred against Rome and Vatican 2....Very typical Protestant attitude....When will people learn that without Rome, divisions and factions will happen... Eastern Orthodox schism 2018 is proof of that....SSPX are next... Traditional Liturgy will not save you if you are in open rebellion against the successor of St. Peter....
@deegobenwick18275 жыл бұрын
@@krishyyfan5153 The protestant attitude is not given by the trads but by the Novus Ordos. What did the Vatican council 2 did? It changed all the traditional practices of the Church which we treasured for thousands of years. And what did Luther do? The same. The same way Catholics on those days rebelled against Luther so are the Traditionals rebelling against the Novus Ordo Protestants.
@sandra984824 ай бұрын
The Benedictine monks at the Monastery of the Holy Cross in Chicago use another Latin variant that is worth experiencing. The monks' chant is similar to this cantor.
@NicolasBuchenkov5 жыл бұрын
Truly, The Mass is the pinnacle of what a mere human could have ever offered to God as a token of praise, respect and worship. God, help us now!
@nickrossi57305 жыл бұрын
this was the Mass that civilized the entire world. now it is returning to paganism of the worst kind. johnthebaptist.us gerrymatatics.com and new traditionalcatholics.com and vaticancatholic.com good luck. study and stay home. true catholics today stay HOME
@peaveawwii14 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos I have seen. Thanks to who ever thought to put this up for the world to see. This truly is like going back in time. The monk who is singing is incredible.
@MsArtemis882 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. The Latin mass was my Aunt’s favourite. She just passed on November 11, 2021 at 93. It’s a gift to hear these prayers 🙏
@pavelrazamazov26723 жыл бұрын
Its interesting that they used a barrier similar to the iconostasis thats in the Orthodox Churches. Maybe they should bring it back for more reverence.
@briandelaney97102 жыл бұрын
The Rood Screen
@SergeChel2 жыл бұрын
orthodox iconostasis originally was a barrier decorated with icons, evolved into an icon wall
@Manga_4x2 жыл бұрын
@@SergeChel bro what ?😂😂
@SergeChel2 жыл бұрын
@@Manga_4x en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iconostasis
@tradcathp.r.4342 Жыл бұрын
I believe the origin is the same.
@avenger8223 жыл бұрын
I can't, for the love of God, understand how anyone would abolish this.
@iparipaitegianiparipaitegi46433 жыл бұрын
The John XXIII ‘s mass has never been abolished. A new ordo was made in the 1960s but many priests have decided on their own to change the ritual to make masses more ‘modern’. Little by little parishes are going back to a more ritual mass. At least in Europe. The younger generation of priests is more traditionnal.
@DominicNJ733 жыл бұрын
Because no one understood it, it kept the people away from the mass, it didn't bring them closer to God.
@toomi1953 жыл бұрын
@@DominicNJ73 actually, the Church was stronger then. Right now its in shambles. Less people go to church, or believe in God, and their faith isn't as strong
@RandyQuaker3 жыл бұрын
Because satan hates it
@haroldramirezmedina91533 жыл бұрын
@@DominicNJ73 False, because the enemies of Christ and the lukewarm wanted it out so they can have it their way.
@pedrosilvaferreira25623 жыл бұрын
This is some truly serious celebration, not the joke we have today. Amazing ! What have we falling in to ?
@Segnor17 жыл бұрын
Very nice, thank you for posting this. I go only to the latin mass and it's nice to see pretty much nothing has changed for this form :)
@FRAGIORGIO17 жыл бұрын
Thurold:: What you mean by "latin mass" is the Roman rite of 1570. It was different from masses 1,000 years earlier which were more like the 1970 rite in some ways, although the choir had its place and there were the ambos or reading places. This can be seen in a few very old Roman churches and in Cappadokkia.
@FRAGIORGIO17 жыл бұрын
Delawanna: Despite all your "heretics" talk, let us look at the facts. 1) the mass in Rome was originally in Greek for about 200 years. 2)is Latin an article of Faith? NO Cts. Cyril and Methodius were approved by Rome to use Slavonic in their mission. Furthermore, Jesus celebrated the Last Supper probably in Hebrew or a mix of Hebrew and Aramaic, His native language. 3) Did Jesus give communion in both kinds? Do the Eastern Orthodox and other Orthodox churches of the East use both kinds? 4) Did St. John Chrysostom give advice about receiving the host in the hand as a throne wherefrom to take to the mouth? Yes, in 400 AD. 5) is the mass a Sacriice in that it is the Re-presentation of Christ's one and only Sacrifice? Yes. Is that lost? NO. 6) is the mass/liturgy/eucharist a Community worship? Yes. 7) did Jesus celebrate the Last Supper at a table or on an altar? How did early Catholics celebrate the Supper of the Lord? On altars or on tables? Does that change the sense? NO. If there has been any loss in devotion, let us see how we can work to increase it. I do agree that Latin and Gregorian have suffered in use in the last few decades, IN SPITE of having been instructed by the Council that the faithful should know the responses in Latin and that Gregorian should hold a place of honor. That is the fault of Bishops.
@FRAGIORGIO17 жыл бұрын
Delawanna: --You are so Generic and Theatrical, and, at the same time, Wrong. You answer Nothing concrete to my words. Point our Error of the 3000 bishops and two holy popes. Am I blind, or are you hallucinating?
@FRAGIORGIO17 жыл бұрын
Delawanna: Indeed, the mustard seed is become a mighty tree as Jesus predicted, but He also said that the gates of hell would not prevail against it. Do you believe that as well?
@gridcaster7 жыл бұрын
While it looks very similar the Rite you see in this video isn't the "Traditional Latin Mass" that you see in your parish. The Tridentine Mass (what most folks call the Traditional Latin Mass) was standardized at the Council of Trent in 1563. This Mass is an older Swedish Rite that was most likely replaced by Church discipline with the Tridentine Mass in the 16th century. This rubric is no longer valid today, and probably hasn't been valid since the 16th century...don't blame everything on Vatican II! There are several older Rites that were allowed to continue after the Tridentine Mass, but most were standardized into the Tridentine Mass. E.G. The Dominican Rite is older than the Council of Trent, but was never outlawed.
@MMihm4 ай бұрын
Mein Kompliment an die Darsteller und Regie des Videos. Alles ist sehr gut und autentisch dargestellt, sogar an der Aussprache des Lateins könnten sich viele Priester in Deutschland ein Beispiel nehmen. Für mich als Kantor des Gregorianischen Chorals ist dieser Blick in die vortridentinische Vergangenheit eine anschauliche Bestätigung für unser kontinuierliches heutiges Tun.
@Airman11213 жыл бұрын
This is truly a beautiful experience. Thank you so much for sharing. May God bless you and your channel!
@leftyspade6 жыл бұрын
How in the name of God did the Roman Catholic Church destroy this incredible ritual=
@mosesking29236 жыл бұрын
It’s not destroyed at all. I have a Tridentine mass in my hometown just 30 minutes away from where I live. There are plenty of you know where to look for them.
@David-fh6rr6 жыл бұрын
Moses King it were 6 protestant pastors and the freemason cardinal bugini who made the new mass
@mosesking29236 жыл бұрын
Correct but that's not what I'm talking about. The latin mass exists in over 400 parishes in the US. They are all online.
@user-xc1fq2qy8y6 жыл бұрын
Just go to and orthodox church literally any of them and it's an even older and more beautiful service every Sunday and Saturday and Friday.
@juliebragdonarmstrong41916 жыл бұрын
This is the pre-Tridentine Mass. The Tridentine Mass was instituted 100 years after the use of this Mass. I am trying to find a text of it. Sadly, I don't know enough Swedish to understand the homily.
@lovethedonald68446 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful, very moving. Thank you for posting this.
@krdiaz80266 жыл бұрын
Henry V attended 3 masses daily in succession. Well, no wonder. I would too.
@eensrds7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for posting this! I've compared missals from this period with the Tridentine, but seeing it really brings the similarities and differences to life.
@BB-kt5eb3 жыл бұрын
They wouldn’t have been seated during any Mass prior to the 16th century, except in parts of the British Isles and even there that didn’t even begin to appear in some parishes until the 13th century. Pews are something we actually got from the Protestant reformation.
@dietrichotto147 жыл бұрын
Literally, this is one of the MOST AWESOME videos I have seen on KZfaq XD I'm such a Catholic geek XD lol
@martaacosta44153 жыл бұрын
I also consider myself a Catholic geek. I’m a convert, having at age seven experienced a sudden love and appreciation for the Blessed Mother when a friend showed me her statue of the Virgin Mary. I love all things Catholic and wish so much I had lived in centuries past, when I could have lived out a full, richly Catholic life, immersed in the best of western civilization.
@ultimateraiders12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I’ve been searching for a video like this. Once again THANK YOU.
@briandecker84037 жыл бұрын
This is beyond wonderful - thank you so much for sharing this!
@nickrossi57305 жыл бұрын
too bad its all gone from the entire world. no valid true masses or priests left on earth.
@kaiser02.y4 жыл бұрын
@@nickrossi5730 What are you talking about? There is valid priests celebrating the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in the Tradicional form. Go search for the SSPX or SSPX Resistance.
@backpackedian6 ай бұрын
It is a shame that the pope is restricting the latin mass even tagging it as divisive. But in actuallity the latin mass is uniting. I travel a lot, imagine if the latin mass was said universally instead of the vernacular every catholic can attend a mass anywhere and understand it!
@jillclark75737 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful. I wish I could have a recording of the cantor, he is excellent. Thank you!
@virvisquevir33205 жыл бұрын
Jill Clark - You can. Look up on the internet "convert KZfaq to MP3". Then play back as often as you like on your portable MP3 player.
@franklyspeaking83354 жыл бұрын
We need to bring this back. This is absolutely a beautiful way to worship the Lord. No other religion can ever touch the majesty and beauty of the Latin mass.
@johnobeid674 жыл бұрын
All of the ancient rites (the way the Apostles and Church Fathers gave them) are all equally beautiful and holy. The Traditional Latin rite is beautiful, but so are the Byzantine, Chaldean, Syriac and Coptic rites.
@chrisnorthrop1760 Жыл бұрын
Always so interesting how the farther back in time you go the clearer you see the similarities between Western and Eastern Christianity.
@joeshuacanete35273 жыл бұрын
As a Catholic, while watching this video it feels like that im looking back to my ancestors on how they celebrated the mass before.BTW I ONLY ATTENDED LATIN MASS.
@elenagallie70037 жыл бұрын
I think all the Cardinals and the Curia out to come to a small church in their restaurant gear and sit and experience this, then the change back that the Catholic church so badly needs would come to pass. An amazing, miraculous, blessed re-enactment. I weep everytime I see it, how simple, how clean, how without any pride, so unpretentious, so gratifying and edifying. Oremus.
@gunnarthorsen5 жыл бұрын
This video was made with the help of the parish of Kristi Lekamens Katolska församling i Visby, (The Church of the Body of Christ, diocese of Visby, Sweden) and was sung in a medieval church on the Island of Gotland. The celebrant is Father Anders Piltz, who is a Catholic priest as well as a professor of Latin at Lunds University. The Cantor is Mattias Östborn. Though externally a recreation, I assume that this is a real, valid Mass, as it was said by a real Catholic priest? I would also respectfully note one inaccuracy: at one point we see congregants rise up from sitting on benches or stools. For the first 1,400 years of Christianity, naves in churches did NOT have seating, except for a bench or two along the walls for the elderly and infirm. People were otherwise free to move around the church to light candles, venerate sacred images, etc., and this holds true today in some conservative Orthodox churches. Seating in churches didn’t really common until after the Reformation, when long sermons (which replaced the Mass and other prior devotions) made parishioners bored or tired enough to wish they were sitting down! Even Luther attended services, probably for his entire life, in churches that had no seating.
@MariaB..4 жыл бұрын
Gunnar Thorsen - Thank you for the interesting information. God bless you!🙏✝️🙏
@emmanuellebediat1653 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@sarah_b_555 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@lamm227 ай бұрын
Mass celebrated is valid, with permission from the Vatican. The Mass was celebrated by Father Anders Piltz OP, Catholic priest and professor of Latin at Lund University
@cameronaustin77343 жыл бұрын
Thanks be to God that this Beautiful Mass is coming back to us today! I attend every sunday at the Beautiful St. Francis de Sales and get to take part in the beauty that is the tridentine Mass. Thanks be to God!
@garythielen53146 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your posting this, I would love to attend this Mass. Praise to the Lord our God!
@eduardovalentin94164 жыл бұрын
I spent a long time looking at Catholicism, but was eventually drawn towards Orthodoxy where I am today. But I find it still so heartbreaking to my Catholic friends in the faith who suffer so much at the hands of liturgy that can be described as nothiing short of ugly. The NO has caused so much harm to the faithful, and those who care little for liturgy are the ones in charge of maintaining it. What is even more sad is that this video is labeled as historic. This simply is not how the mass is celebrated anymore save for a few pockets here and there. This beautiful expression of the faith has been lost to the corners of history, and exists only as a memory of a memory. I pray that there is a revival and love for the need of beauty in worship. Beauty will save the world
@johnobeid674 жыл бұрын
@@unam9931 The Orthodox and Catholic churches will come into communion again one day, God willing.
@tucker36014 ай бұрын
Someone’s I can’t comprehend why I have to justify why some feel this is superior to contemporary, evangelical services. There’s so much power in reverent worship, so much is felt in the silence. You don’t get that feeling of awe and might, those moments to meditate and reflect on God. Plus so much of modern Christianity is so cheap and cringe, emotionally charged, a product of the times. This is timeless, God is timeless. No brainer.
@johndiaz99995 жыл бұрын
No matter where in the world the Canon is the same whether be in Rome or here in my home country. Our unity is expressed in the Language of the Church. :)
@JosephCapelli2 ай бұрын
I would leave the Anglican Communion for Rome if Roman Catholic churches still widely practiced this Mass. My Anglo-Catholic church has more traditional Catholic worship & liturgy than my local RC churches!
@heatherfeather12937 жыл бұрын
Oh why did they ever end this type of Mass? (except in certain parishes). The NO looks completely Protestant next to this :-(
@nickrossi57305 жыл бұрын
the novus ordo is not protestant. it is Satanic. This is and was the true Catholic Mass and now its gone from the entire world and so isnt the Apostolic Succession. good luck figuring it all out. It only took me 12 years. www.vaticancatholic.com and newtraditionalcatholics.com
@patsaxon52844 жыл бұрын
Because it is so boring!
@JulianoRosada4 жыл бұрын
That's what usually boomers say about the absence of tacky modern music.
@itsnando204 жыл бұрын
Pat Saxon it’s not boring, it’s quite fascinating. If I attended that mass in the vid, it would for sure grow my faith.
@carsonianthegreat46724 жыл бұрын
Pat Saxon , found the boomer Susan
@jas.accipite90307 жыл бұрын
I was able to follow most of it using a 1962 roman missal. This was very beautiful. I appreciate it. Thanks. If you are looking to do a sequel I'd be very interested in watching a Nuptial Mass, circa 1450.
@nickrossi57305 жыл бұрын
The 1962 Missal was created by John 23 a freemason. It is a mockery and an apeing of the true CANONIZED MASS OF ST POPE PIUS V. Get a real 1950 missal at www.daughtersofmarypress.com for $63. THAT is the real mass. stay home. pray it every day and 15 decades of the real rosary. www.newtraditionalcatholics.org. slaves of mary. goodl luck. stay home. BE CATHOLIC.
@georgfogel5767 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! Nice gregorian melodyes!
@thomazf.garcia4472 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful, wonderful! Tradition is something so sublime and timeless that one can notice the few and small changes that the liturgy had before the Second Vatican Council.
@spvrivs3 жыл бұрын
Good work! Creating even the sermon... 👍
@chrisdixonstudios6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful dedication!
@manwithblackhat7 жыл бұрын
An excellent reproduction. Some extended commentary on the various parts, and their relation to the eventual Tridentine model, would be most illuminating.
@krzysztofkruczynski37897 жыл бұрын
By googling the dominican rite you can find out loads about this rite of the Mass.
@manwithblackhat7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. That would explain at least a few things, but I'm surprised they didn't show the preparation of the gifts before the Mass proper. That would have been a very distinct characteristic when compared to the Roman Mass.
@krzysztofkruczynski37897 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by the preparation of the gifts? In the eastern rites it is before the Mass. But I've never heard of such thing in terms of a latin liturgy.
@manwithblackhat7 жыл бұрын
The gifts of bread and wine are prepared before the beginning of Mass proper in the Dominican Rite, just as they are in the Byzantine Rite. You can learn more about certain differences by way of this entry in Wikipedia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Rite#Distinctive_marks_of_the_Dominican_Rite
@krzysztofkruczynski37897 жыл бұрын
That is interesting. I didn't know that. :)
@blahblee93834 жыл бұрын
this is exactly how I hear mass on Sunday. I love the Extraordinary form Mass.
@dennisfideli.estrella60603 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video... from Manila, Philippines.
@markhankinson31513 жыл бұрын
The priest of this Mass is Fr Anders Piltz, there is an article about him on Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Piltz
@iwpoe6 жыл бұрын
Not that much different from mass in the extraordinary form today, although the acolyte was extremely good at what he was doing.
@Viktorvelat953 жыл бұрын
Wow, amazing how at that time the Catholic mass was way closer to the Orthodox liturgy than nowadays! Thank you for this video!
@30JLETO3 жыл бұрын
I attend traditional Latin mass. It’s basically this video with a few minor alterations.
@q000q49 ай бұрын
👍
@moisesvelez98595 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, glorious, annointed, revelationous...
@tradicional.sintomaticoАй бұрын
Beautiful reenactment of the Traditional Mass! What a sacrality
@Garbanzo8847 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely beautiful. It is so much better than the BS Novus Ordo.
@avginkel6 жыл бұрын
It;s the TRUE Holy Mass. See also: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mZlildWJvd6Zm2w.html
@luismantaras64606 жыл бұрын
Thomas Carney Not only much better, but the only valid Mass.
@orthodoxboomergrandma35613 жыл бұрын
Wow! An iconostasis without icons, but a closer approximation to the design of the Temple with the Holy of Holies somewhat separating the people from the inner sanctum. After Pascha we keep open the doors of the altar space to show the mystery to the people during the joyful post Paschal period. This makes me want to attend an Orthodox Western Rite Divine Liturgy. 🙏🏻☦️🙏🏻 As a former Roman Catholic whose father’s Faith was almost wrecked by V2, but who died in the Sacraments of his beloved Roman Catholic Church, this gives hope.
@capybarapullup12338 ай бұрын
become Catholic
@miriam40912 ай бұрын
Lovely, Holy & Sacred! Thankyou & many blessings...
@Navygrl585 жыл бұрын
That was absolutely beautiful!
@christinetuthill82494 жыл бұрын
The priest...his Latin is good and his chanting is good...as is the cantor. I understand a lot of the Latin because I used to read it every Sunday.
@drhesslen7 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how it's barely changed . Clearly divine
@Chuckx972 ай бұрын
As someone who has done lots of family research it was cool to discover a link to 2 distant relatives who both were Roman Catholic clergymen (many kinsmen have been priests even after that) in the same time period (15th century), and now see how they would have served in mass . One was the last RC bishop of Turku/Åbo before the reformation and the second a priest in Stockholm.
@robinsonrex1280Ай бұрын
One thing I notice about this Mass is that it is shorter than some Novus Ordo masses I have attended. The problem begins when some of the unneeded pleasantaries by the priest during the beginning and then some of them preach lengthy sermons. And then there is this choirs that sing modern songs, mostly praise and worship songs lifted from the Protestants.
@christopheragro19534 жыл бұрын
Oh, I almost forgot, no infernal charismatics raising their hands as if to signal a touchdown! I have seen that at Latin Mass as well!
@TheAthertonian3 жыл бұрын
And during the “Oratre Fratres”.
@francisbarca66086 жыл бұрын
Fascinating!
@orthodoxtruth19993 күн бұрын
As a Greek Orthodox Christian, the Ancient Western Liturgy is way closer to the Orthodox Divine Liturgy than the Modern Catholic Liturgy. Simply beautiful!!!
@rosamari71956 ай бұрын
Yo tengo sesenta y dos años y ahora la he descubierto y es maravillosa yo me había alejado de la iglesia pero ahora he regresado, me encanta y que sea en latín gracias muchas gracias desde España saludos 🙏🙏🙏🙏🇪🇦🇪🇦
@jeffyjohn56736 жыл бұрын
truly beautiful. Maybe the Church can return to this one day.
@nickrossi57305 жыл бұрын
it can in your own home. stay home now and pray the true CANONIZED mass of pope st pius v. study. its all true.
@kaiser02.y4 жыл бұрын
@@nickrossi5730 what?
@jaso22242 жыл бұрын
Almost the same as in my Latin Mass community today in Poland, however some parts we sign together. Truly universal (i.e. catholic) Mass, not only geographically but also crossing the boarders of time. I think our community in Poland in 21st century has more common understanding of the Catholic Church with 15th century village community in Sweden than with most bishops (including this one in Rome) currently.
@margielyons62826 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful and moving. Very much like the Holy Latin Mass of today which is still very much with us.
@paul_456_5Ай бұрын
The moment we come back to this I'll go to church every Sunday.
@PerHedetun Жыл бұрын
Father Anders was my confirmation priest! 🤓 BTW, here the Lectio Divina, Credo, Pater Noster, and Ave Maria, are all delivered in medieval Swedish for added realism. But other than the - very appreciated - "LARP" elements, it's pretty much the 1962 Mass..!
@ABC1701A3 жыл бұрын
Apart from the Introit and psalms/responses/readings etc which change daily this is like the mass I would normally attend daily. God willing the monastery churches will soon be open to those from without the enclosed walls soon. The main parts of the service were unchanged from today, but then the mass itself is over 1000 years old, and it really hasn't changed. Deo gratis.
@bruno-bnvm10 ай бұрын
Deo Gratias*
@Kyerte8 ай бұрын
Wow! This is so beautiful and timeless, I go every Sunday to a traditional mass when possible and I see it's nearly exactly the same. I feel sad now because the novus ordus changed this a lot. People from that time would find the current mass very strange and wouldn't understand what's going on because it is not in Latin anymore. Back then a person from any country in the world could find the same mass in any other place.
@vittoriaerriquez91794 жыл бұрын
Meravigliosa! GRAZIE!
@TyranyFighterPatriot2 жыл бұрын
The fact that so many Novus Ordo types hate this Nass tells more about them and where their interests lie than it does about the Mass.
@DavidBrown-ye5xv Жыл бұрын
If I’m not mistaken in the 15th century there were several approved rites, this was apparently the Roman rite, but at this time in parts of England the Sarum rite was in common use, there were several other National/regional rites in common use and various religious orders with their own rite (these wouldn’t be all that common for parish use). Rome clamped down in the late 16th century as part of the counter reformation taking strict control and making the Roman rite the universal usage.
@judyg.42553 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful.
@torl89242 жыл бұрын
this is so beautiful
@angiepantus5 жыл бұрын
I attend the beautiful and sacred Holy Tridentine Mass at my local SSPX church. I feel so lucky and privileged to have tradition almost on my doorstep. The Holy 2,000 year old Holy Mass is the nearest thing to Heaven here on earth.
@JamesBond-qd5rc3 жыл бұрын
I attend mass at the SSPX seminary in Buckingham County VA. What a blessing!
@DMCK20003 жыл бұрын
I go to my local SSPX chapel too, and I love it. They truly value the Roman mass more than anyone else in the Church
@ernestpadilla90952 жыл бұрын
SSPX churches not in communion with the Holy Father and the rest of the Catholic Church.