Hobie Drop in with Honda 35cc - Go Pro Footage Extended (Pedal Drive Conversion)

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KAYAK BUDDYS, LLC - LIGHTWEIGHT PROPULSION SYSTEMS

4 жыл бұрын

Let me preface the video before the comments about the noise start making the know it alls come out of the woodwork. The camera is being handheld right next to the engine. There is no way without extended GoPro mounts to get around this. This is for the purpose of showing the drive capability. You are in the path of the echo and harmonics of the engine. No way around it. It is in reality about 30% quieter. This is an older Hobie used as a test boat, period. All of my Hobie PA and large kayak clients use these and thoroughly enjoy their usage for traveling long distances, not spot to spot usually. This is why we have paddles.
I finally got around to filming with my GoPro on my wife's Hobie Revo. The system did not disappoint. 6.6 mph with current and 6.1 mph with a heavy incoming current. Now just to be clear, if I really adjust my engine tilt position I could probably get gain a bit more speed, but for a Honda 35cc engine, I am not complaining. The Honda 50cc would push this well over 7mph. The average speed with simply the first throttle position was right at 4 mph. Feel free to skip around. I had to film very close to the engine since these Hobie Revo's are tight and the pedals are very close to the occupant and of course there are no T tracks to mount anything.

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@Robsmith1218 4 жыл бұрын

I’m sorry KB please disregard the last question wrong video I was looking at. By the way all vids are great!!

@imranjutt.9083 2 жыл бұрын

thats a lot of speed for 35 cc wao thats great performance.

@atozproductions9660 2 жыл бұрын

I'm probably going to be saying woo too here next week

@tianelle1155 Жыл бұрын

love that setup sir just placing in front of you.. great video btw how heavy is that sir.

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 Жыл бұрын

About 16 lbs without fuel.

@OceanicPursuit 2 жыл бұрын

Where did you get the Honda outboard?

@lucaruggiero5262 4 жыл бұрын

hi where did you find the two pae propeller you mounted on your engine? thanks

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 4 жыл бұрын

Luca Ruggiero I had these made for my application. The manufacturer is out of business. I am the only one that carries these props to fit this system.

@Ernieunderwater 4 жыл бұрын

Nice!!!

@Robsmith1218 4 жыл бұрын

Hey KB, I hope well and safe! how much would this setup in this video cost? Thanks for your time and Stay Safe!!

@nikushim6665 2 жыл бұрын

The motor is probably around 500 to 700, no clue about the adaptor plug he used for the Mirage drive slot.

@SC-hc7vy 2 жыл бұрын

haha this is funny... can't imagine myself with this motor on my outback

@robertahlholm6412 4 жыл бұрын

hey man I got a 12.5 feelfree Moken which motor do you suggest the 35 or 50 ? for use in bay

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 4 жыл бұрын

I would go with the 50cc all the way. You can run at a lower rpm and maintain torque on the kayak while moving.

@Skinsaphrenics Жыл бұрын

Very interested in this but just a safety question. Is there a need to worry about exhaust? Carbon dioxide?

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 Жыл бұрын

The emissions in a Honda is about 95% efficient. The side discharge while underway and sitting idle has never been an issue. I have built 100’s of the new 50cc versions with no issues.

@frankw2328 4 жыл бұрын

I need one of these for my pelican catch 110 hd2!!!

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 4 жыл бұрын

Frank Williams take a look at the website. I am sure you can adapt this with little effort.

@MrCubanito321 3 жыл бұрын

How you you cut the shaft

@jianhonglenovo7842 3 жыл бұрын

I have quetions? U turn the the sleep size, How about the engine oil? Can it run and funtion normal?

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 3 жыл бұрын

I am not sure what question you have here? These engines can run 360 degrees with no oil starvation.

@toddcross6619 Жыл бұрын

What brand and where did you get stabilizer with motor mount?

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 Жыл бұрын

My company sells the Spring Creek system and accessories. www.kayakbuddys.com.

@MannOnBoard 3 жыл бұрын

How many miles could you get out of that small fuel tank?

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 3 жыл бұрын

Running wide open about 5.0 miles.

@stunick1573 4 жыл бұрын

informative video, but (yeah there's a but) from the video's point of view it was noisy which defeats the purpose of a Kayak being all quiet and stealthy moving along minimal disturbance. In the video you said it wasn't bad (the noise) but man from watching it was. I also don't know about having it center mass for a whole fishing trip just so I can power back in as the narrator suggests. Also noticed the bare legs near that hot motor head, could be painful trying to get out of the Kayak after running in with this "Buddy". One question, why the out riggers? was it for safety with this engine install? never needed or used out riggers. Put it on a new Shearwater 125 fishing set up and try it again speed test without the out riggers. But really think the "Buddy" should be behind the occupant not between the legs (for convenience I get you placed it in the drop in scissor blade slot). On second thought I'm thinking placing in the slot but lowering the whole thing so its a small hump and use the Kayaks rudder system to turn the boat. make it lower profile and just an forward and reverse engine.

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 4 жыл бұрын

St. Nick as I said the camera is 2 ft. from the engine. Of course it does not record with accurate decibels. The Revo is very compact and the water keeps it cool. I have never had an issue with heat period, but remember most people do not power these smaller kayaks. This is just informative and just plain fun. I would not power a Revo, unless it was a tandem. No cockpit space. What most people do is to keep the system in the storage compartment and use this for the trip home. It acts like a front wheel drive car. It’s way faster than rear mounted engines. Lifts the hull up and has zero cavitation. I have electric mounted to the same system that is even faster. Sounds like an RC car. When your kayak weighs over 125lbs like the large PA beasts, a gas power plant is perfect to have when you spent. The stabilizers are for my wife and allow side mounted engines that are offset by the stabilizers. These barely touched the water. I had these on initially for her, but I needed video for customers who want the capability of non-transom based kayaks to have power. These are fantastic.

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 4 жыл бұрын

If I was mounting on the new Vibe it would go in the back. Heavy kayaks benefit from having 50cc power. Anything less requires higher RPM. I have a new Pursuit and it is going to fly with rear power with trim and tilt.

@stunick1573 4 жыл бұрын

@@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 good to hear, I know when you edited this video you couldn't help but hear the constant motor noise, I was as you might say just checking. I've been looking at one of the electrics but this does present options. Still like the video. Have you fished with the buddy yet?? does it interfere in any way?? one last, does the weight above center G destabilize any? from your experience as in have you stood up and run it yet or "rocked the boat" for stability check??

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 4 жыл бұрын

St. Nick you have no choice to hear the motor because of the echo on the plastic. It is not as loud as it sounds. I didn’t have a GoPro mount to pull the video away from the kayak to get real sound and not the harmonics of the engine. This kayak is simply a test bed to see if the drive could work. The Hobie PA kayaks are awesome with the 50cc power, plus it is a good 1.5 ft.+ difference in rear seat to peddle opening. Now, as far as fishing, all of my engine setups are in the rear. I fish Nucanoe kayaks and use these all of the time. I don’t leave without it. Whether I use or not I have a power choice. The Frontier gets 5.7-6.1 mph with 50cc. The Pursuit will be faster I imagine. I haven’t rigged it out yet. It never gets in the way and actually I forget its there most of the time. I also use either a leaning post or just stand. The motor does zero to stability, because it is 23lbs and is centered. I get no deficit by having it on board.

@johnnypestana3650 2 жыл бұрын

Can u make a video showing how you put everything together? Really want this motor!

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 2 жыл бұрын

There is a build video on the full size system. You cannot build the drop in without the right drive shaft and bearings.

@johnnypestana3650 2 жыл бұрын

@@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 do you know how the total for everything with the drop in

@johnnypestana3650 2 жыл бұрын

What's the total for it to come complete with motor and stainless prop and shaft

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnypestana3650 please check the website www.kayakbuddys.com for pricing.

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnypestana3650 you can call me or check the site for the complete RTR system. I don’t post prices on KZfaq.

@user-tc9ss6vv6i 6 ай бұрын

Got the 2-3 Honda O/B. On a 12ft tinn starcraft i . ?those also made in China

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 6 ай бұрын

Not sure what you are asking. Your Honda outboard is made in China. That is the only one of Honda’s outboard that is.

@josephtocci1197 2 күн бұрын

where is this at ?? my guess Florida ???

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 2 күн бұрын

@@josephtocci1197 yes it was in Miami.

@mpcguy Жыл бұрын

Do you make one for the hobie adventure island? Cost?

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 Жыл бұрын

Yes. If you look at the companies website www.kayakbuddys.com you can see the 50cc version with the FPV mount. The ready to run version is 1289.00 + shipping.

@prestonbroadus3978 3 жыл бұрын

Would u increase speed without the stabilizers?

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 3 жыл бұрын

No necessarily. They are designed for secondary stability and to offset an engine if need be. This will not increase your speed.

@prestonbroadus3978 3 жыл бұрын

@@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 have u thought about turning your seat around and having the engine behind you? I bet you'd go even faster

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 3 жыл бұрын

@@prestonbroadus3978 most of my builds are transom mounted. I assume you haven’t looked at the other videos. Do a bit of research, you will answer your own questions in the other videos.

@prestonbroadus3978 3 жыл бұрын

@@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 ived watched your videos. I just think you'd get a kick out of the speed boost by turning your seat around and having the motor behind you.

@lynx8828 3 жыл бұрын

hi friend, is posible some pictures of your propeller? .. i need to make one like this.. thanks lots

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 3 жыл бұрын

There are plenty of images on the website.

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 3 жыл бұрын

@@lynx8828 Yes, I sell the prop, collar, and pins as a set.

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 3 жыл бұрын

@@lynx8828 look on the ordering page under accessories and you will see the upgraded aluminum prop at 85.00 USD.

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 3 жыл бұрын

@@lynx8828 if you look at any of the pictures and video you will see the prop and collar to attach the prop. If you look at the home page mid way down you will see the stainless prop and collar. The aluminum are the same just different material.

@cahayaengineeringtrading8494 Жыл бұрын

hi were you buy mounting outboard

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 Жыл бұрын

You can buy the mount and systems at www.kayakbuddys.com.

@danielelgazpachuelo3511 6 ай бұрын

Hola soy de España y me a gustado mucho el motor y quisiera ver si podría comprar uno para mi kayak, ¿ Podrías darme el enlace de la tienda para mirar precios ?, gracias Un saludo desde Málaga

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 6 ай бұрын

I do not speak Spanish. Please translate.

@danielelgazpachuelo3511 6 ай бұрын

Hi! I am from Spain. I like the motor. Could you tell me where did you buy It or the link of the web? Thank you

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 6 ай бұрын

@@danielelgazpachuelo3511 you can purchase these systems through www.kayakbuddys.com.

@user-ko8te8fz4z 3 жыл бұрын

فكرة رائعة لكن رائحة البنزين تكون مباشرة في انفك وفي حالة الانقلاب هل يعمل الماطور

@johnsmith-mz9hh Жыл бұрын

Hahah I thought the same thing... Maybe that's why he is so happy

@ashlee896 9 ай бұрын

Could you please make a link to the motor?

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 9 ай бұрын

kayakbuddys.com/hobiedropinmount.html

@barnabasbarnabastoth2127 10 ай бұрын

Hello it's okay that the engine is down because of oiling, I'm asking

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 10 ай бұрын

These Honda engines can run 360 degrees. No issues.

@barnabasbarnabastoth2127 10 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@FishingwithJhoe 3 жыл бұрын

have you tried it in saltwater?

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 3 жыл бұрын

Fishing with Jhoe of course. The original trial videos posted are in salt water. No issues. I do not run the cassette anymore, but an FPV mount. Great quality from Australia with flexible vertical adjustment. The video will be going up in the next few days.

@FishingwithJhoe 3 жыл бұрын

@@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 Nice! Im excited. As i am planning to install a petrol motor on my Perception pilot 12 on the pedal drive mount. Will wait for that video. Subscribed and notified first :)

@atozproductions9660 2 жыл бұрын

Dude hits 5 mph "WHOOO!"

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 2 жыл бұрын

The new Honda 50cc system easily gets 5.6+mph.

@bobbypatton4903 2 жыл бұрын

5mph on a kayak it is up on plane at that point lol

@marlonxxi1 Жыл бұрын

Do you sell motor like that for kayas

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 Жыл бұрын

Yes. You can check the site www.kayakbuddys.com.

@brunocauin 3 жыл бұрын

Please tell me it doesn't exhaust onto you...

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 3 жыл бұрын

Bruno Honda is 95% emission free. You rarely smell an exhaust note. You can not run a water exit next to plastic. That would be an epic fail. When underway you smell next to nothing.

@perseverance8 3 жыл бұрын

Replace the stock carburetor with a Walbro WYK-194-1 & you'll get a substantial uplift in performance with the ability to easily tune the Low & High speed fuel mixture along with running an engineered fuel which will improve exhaust emissions & eliminate that obnoxious gasoline smell.

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 3 жыл бұрын

That will immediately void the warranty, so that Is not going to happen. What you or other consumers do is on them. I keep it OEM until the warranty is out. Then add a water exit exhaust and you just eliminated what you swapped your carb to achieve. A tuned down pipe is the key.

@jmchinestadreams2621 Жыл бұрын

que velocidad coge, gracias

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 Жыл бұрын

The 50cc engines will can maintain 5.5-6.7 mph depending on conditions.

@jmchinestadreams2621 Жыл бұрын

@@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 muchas gracias por contestar saludos desde España, video muy bonito

@thweethtoo 4 жыл бұрын

I have the engine need thar kayak n perpaler.

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 4 жыл бұрын

Thwee Htoo you can visit www.kayakbuddys.com and look under the drop-in drive systems.

@johnsmith-mz9hh Жыл бұрын

Aren't you getting a face full of exhaust?!?

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 Жыл бұрын

Not at all with a clean burning 4 stroke. You may get a scent if you are idle for a while with no wind, but I have never had an issue with the exhaust smell bothering me or the dozens I have built for clients.

@alanknight4418 Жыл бұрын

Is that a weed wacker powerhead? Or what is it other than just telling me it's a 35cc engine.

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 Жыл бұрын

The new version use a commercial grade 50cc Honda powerhead.

@alanknight4418 Жыл бұрын

@@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 but is it considered to be a boat motor or a transformed weed wacker?

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 Жыл бұрын

@@alanknight4418 nothing like a weed whacker. It is an outboard with a true gearbox.

@MERyNOS Жыл бұрын

Cara pengiriman ke INDONESIA

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 Жыл бұрын

You need to write in English. I can not respond if I do know what you are writing.

@MDangk9 11 ай бұрын

That’s great, but too lold

@kayakbuddysllc-lightweight4947 11 ай бұрын

I have created a water exit that routes exhaust under the hull. The new 50cc engine does not need to run high RPM’s to maintain speed. Check the latest Outback video.