Honda P0341- Camshaft Position Sensor Incorrect Phase Detected DIY

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Honda P0341- Camshaft Position Sensor Incorrect Phase Detected DIY

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Күн бұрын

Honda P0341. Camshaft Position Sensor Incorrect Phase Detected
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This is a very generic and common code that can be difficult to diagnose. Multiple reasons for the code.
1, faulty sensor
2, stretched timing chain
3, VTC actuator malfunction.
NOTE:
In the video I referenced that item as actuator/solenoid..
the actual correct name is VTC oil control valve.
In this video.. #3 VTC oil control valve was the issue. The oil control piston was getting stuck.. So we did a little modification to the solenoid. Hope this video helps. Enjoy.
UPDATE. it's been about 3 months now and the CRV is running without issues after this mod.
Note. recently on a separate vehicle with a misfire. checked the spark plugs and coils which were fine. did a valve adjustment and it fixed the problem.
Update. Oct.20,2021
noted by viewer David Glass...
"I've found that a size m6 flat washer fits perfectly in there"
note by viewer OptimusOne
"M6 washers were a tad too big so I had to run back to the store to get M5s. problem solved..."

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@jkatman Ай бұрын

A friend was dealing with a p0340 cel (not p0341) code some weeks back on his kswapped eg civic that we couldn’t figure out (cam timing was on point, replacing cam sensors didn’t fix it, wiring was good/brand new), we then stumbled upon this video but didn’t perform the suggested washer stacking tip, he did press the end of the spring cap down with a pick and heard a pop and figured the spring became unseated from being a high mileage sensor. Reinstalled and went for a test drive and p0340 was gone! No symptoms of a wonky or dying idle or sputtering vtec crossover afterwards. Thanks for this vid 👌

@jkatman Ай бұрын

Oh also, it seems that Honda makes different versions of the VTC solenoid inner body. For instance, the one I have doesn’t have the tip like shown in your video where you can disassemble it from the tip. Mine has a completely sealed tip 😢

@one8racing79 6 ай бұрын

I had this code and my car had a random misfire and I did exactly what this video shows and it fixed the issue after I checked my cam sensors and crank sensor I decided to try this and it actually fixed the issue! I want to say thank u to the guy that made this video because I was lost if I didn't see this I was going to pull my engine SMH please don't listen to the other comments that say it doesn't work because it absolutely can be the issue!!

@OptimusOne 24 күн бұрын

M6 washers were a tad too big so I had to run back to the store to get M5s. Problem solved, thanks for posting this!

@UncleTinman 24 күн бұрын

Thank you for posting. I will ad to description to help others. Cheers

@glassman3333 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve found that a size m6 flat washer fits perfectly in there.

@UncleTinman 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.. I'll add that to the description

@Steelman0355 3 жыл бұрын

For all the work getting to that part, I just as soon buy a new one and do the job once!

@UncleTinman 3 жыл бұрын

In north America we're spoiled with cheap and readily available parts with quick shipping... but there are others who aren't as fortunate... and any help with repairing an issue instead of throwing money at it. Thanks for your feedback.

@benjamindaass3822 Жыл бұрын

@@UncleTinman absolutely. as an american, i would buy a new one myself, but i watched bc it was fascinating to see how simply and elegantly you fixed it. i also never actually knew what was going on inside a solenoid. works mostly like a switch with the piston being the throw. thanks for sharing this.

@escanerautomotrizmultimarcas 2 жыл бұрын

Amigo, tu vídeo me solucionó mi problema, aún no entiendo como mecánicamente esto afecta a la distribución del vehículo, pero hoy lo desarme y limpie tal como lo hiciste tú y lo puse y desapareció el código y funcionó a la perfección, muchas gracias, saludos!

@alexandergoldberg2596 2 ай бұрын

you advise worked, thanks

@UncleTinman 2 ай бұрын

Awesome. Glad to hear. Make my efforts worthwhile

@YesClearly 4 жыл бұрын

I wish you lived in the San Francisco bay area. My Honda CRV 2013 has the engine light on with a P0341. I have already had a new vtc solenoid put in (before that, other lights were also on: 85-01, C0100, 83-11). According to two mechanics, the next step is putting in a new cam shaft positioning sensor -A (input). My fear is that then, the engine light still won't go off. Then the next step is Timing Chain / VTC actuator. I have only 58,000 miles on the car and I bought it new. Evidently, getting maintenance whenever the sensors tell you is no longer adequate. Mechanics have told me that with the synthetic oil, it should be changed every 5,000 miles or 6 months whichever comes first. Hoo boy. So I'm hoping to just trade it in, and be done with it. But first, could you advise me on where to buy the cam shaft positioning sensor -A specifically for Honda, if I try to go one step further with this car? Again ... I wish you were in the bay area. I really like your approach to fixing something.

@UncleTinman 4 жыл бұрын

Try looking on rockauto.com I find they have a good selection and pricing.

@YesClearly 4 жыл бұрын

@@UncleTinman Thank you! I'll check it out.

@olatundeaboaba 2 жыл бұрын

I have this same issue of my 2008 Honda Accord, it has about 103k miles on it, I have replaced both camshaft position sensors and its still tripping the same error code. Now I think the next thing is to try this crankshaft sensor mod.

@PAlouidor 4 жыл бұрын

What model and year Honda is this I ask because I have the same code right now. I have 2011 accord.

@UncleTinman 4 жыл бұрын

It's relevant for all the K series model of Honda engines

@glassman3333 2 жыл бұрын

Out of curiosity, what size washer did you use? By the way, I heard it may be useful to do this on a new solenoid as well.

@UncleTinman 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry. I don't recall the size of the washer.. they were just washers I had on hand. Great suggestion for the new solenoid. Thanks

@glassman3333 2 жыл бұрын

@@UncleTinman No worries. I’ll just get a kit and then report back here on the size I used.

@oleg91119 2 жыл бұрын

thanks, it helped!

@UncleTinman 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome.. that's great to hear

@enduranceazeke7402 Жыл бұрын

Can I remove a stock vvt out from the cylinder head

@UncleTinman Жыл бұрын

Yes. You can remove it. It's held in with one 10mm bolt. It might be harder to pull out with the dried up O rings.

@bikrambista6814 4 жыл бұрын

Hey i have honda accord with 52000 miles on it. I have change the camshaft cranshaft sensor battery, spark plugs, did the timing chain replacement but still I get the code of p0341 and p0340. But i have not done anything with the actuator. Do you think it has vtc actuator problem?? Some one recommended me checking the fuel pressure . Thank you

@UncleTinman 4 жыл бұрын

I'd check the actuator. Who diagnosed the car? Get them to double check

@bikrambista6814 4 жыл бұрын

@@UncleTinman Will do thank you. I have been asking for different mechanic and they have different opinion about it.

@UncleTinman 4 жыл бұрын

@@bikrambista6814 unfortunately sometimes there are different ways to approach a situation.

@bikrambista6814 4 жыл бұрын

@@UncleTinman that's true, some mechanic tries to make out of money rather than clearing out the issue. Most of the mechanic I had just goes with the code they get from the OBDII scanner.

@braydonmr0077 4 ай бұрын

I have this code and I have a knock, I replaced the Solenoid Spool Valve, Timing Oil Pressure Switch, and Gasket assembly. Do you think this solenoid would solve the problem?

@UncleTinman 4 ай бұрын

If that's the code you're getting. I'd give it a try.

@juvenalesquivel559 5 жыл бұрын

Were you getting random misfire and having issues keeping car running?

@UncleTinman 5 жыл бұрын

Yes.. those were the symptoms.

@donc6545 5 жыл бұрын

Uncle Tinman did the code go away or did you need to reser the code?

@UncleTinman 5 жыл бұрын

@@donc6545 you'll need to reset it

@UncleTinman 5 жыл бұрын

@zenquisj what do you mean which one to change? There's only one actuator.

@UncleTinman 5 жыл бұрын

@zenquisj what are your symptoms?

@eidenspysznyk5075 10 ай бұрын

I keep getting this code but no major symptoms driving. Honda wants to charge me 2 grand to change the timing chain and tensioner but the only symptoms i have are the reoccurring engine light and maybe a bit less fuel economy

@UncleTinman 10 ай бұрын

Have you tested the solenoid? Perhaps try changing the solenoid. You can source one on rockauto for a decent price. Although, you might actually need to replace the timing chain. Hope this helps

@eidenspysznyk5075 10 ай бұрын

@@UncleTinman did a full diagnosis and seems to be the chain stretch unfortunately. Should I replace the solenoid while I'm in there?( (Plan on getting tensioner, guides, cam gear etc... Anyways). Also reading I should do the water and fuel pump while I have access . Thanks for the advice

@UncleTinman 10 ай бұрын

@@eidenspysznyk5075 the solenoid is external so it wouldn't be hard to replace later on if it fails. I think when you said fuel pump, you're referring to oil pump. Normally wouldn't change the pump assembly unless there's an issue. Although you can for extra peace of mind. Hope this helps.

@ricorodrigo7402 4 жыл бұрын

P0341 is for the cam position sensor and crank position sensor not reading together. It would mean a stretched timing chain. Anybody following this information is wasting their time and possibly wrecking their vehicle.

@Saroeumyim 4 жыл бұрын

P0341 is very vague code. It could be anything from stretch timing chain, weak chain tensioner, worn out guides, two cams position sensors is too dirty, loose or misalign cams magnetic pulsate gears bolted at driver side, too thick of an engine oil not supplying lubrication sufficiently to and through the vvt solenoid piston properly or it can get stuck due of dirty screen, which in turns causes the intake cam vtc actuator to auto advance greatly to accommodate oil pressure and viscosity to a point, and that will throw the code p0341 or p0011 (cam position range/performance/ too advanced). ANY of these components can go bad, not just the chain. If there is an ongoing code that wouldn't go away , the pcm must be recalibrate...that is by starting up the car from a cold (never from warmed) and rev the rpm to 3k until the second time the fans kick on, turn car off for one minute and restart again then it's all set.

@UncleTinman 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the detailed break down explaining. I had that code and this is the method I used to remedy the issue without having to replace the VTC actuator.

@topnotch8432 3 жыл бұрын

This part of the comment regarding "this information is wasting their time.." is incorrect because the honda manual states to check this FIRST (If you do not have a scantool) simply using a 12v source to the right(2) male terminal and a ground to the left(1) male terminal on this part. If it moves more than 1.2mm it is OK- if it does not it needs to be replaced. You check the timing after checking the solenoid valve. Page 11-247 & 11-248 for po341.

@cesarguerrero2299 3 жыл бұрын

@@Saroeumyim would this also be an explanation for why my VSA & Exclamation in a triangle light is on ?

@yapahyahawadahshabata9386 3 жыл бұрын

@@cesarguerrero2299 I have this same issue and it's driving me crazy. Sometimes the car run fine then BOOM... SHAKING, STALLING and cuts off sometimes.

@87emagdnim Жыл бұрын

Man where did you get the washers from lol

@UncleTinman Жыл бұрын

I just happen to have a stock pile of washers.

@wilbert3490 3 жыл бұрын

Most of the time this code means your k series engine have streched timing chain

@UncleTinman 3 жыл бұрын

Again... as I mentioned in the description. This code is very vague. I've had the same code for multiple issues and solutions.

@shaneshane9419 3 жыл бұрын

Uncle Tinman did you find out what your issue was and did this solve the issue? I have the same code. I changed all 4 plugs, coils and both cam position sensors. Still doing the samething and throwing the PO341 code.

@DanielJuarez-dh7uv 2 жыл бұрын

Tengo problemas con mi crv 2002 se jalonea a 3mil rpm y ya le cambie vtec y sigue igual

@aezakmi354 4 жыл бұрын

what is the inner and outer diameter of the washer please ?

@UncleTinman 4 жыл бұрын

Sorry. I dont recall. I just had a bin of washers that i just tried.

@aezakmi354 4 жыл бұрын

@@UncleTinman okay, no problem, thanks for video, it really help me

@UncleTinman 4 жыл бұрын

@@aezakmi354 great to hear.

@glassman3333 2 жыл бұрын

@@aezakmi354 did you ever figure out the size washer?

@aezakmi354 2 жыл бұрын

@@glassman3333 Nope, because when I put mine solenoid out, it was completely sealed (non openable- different Honda) so I changed whole thing, but P0341 still shows, it is most likely VTC actuator in my case

@jeffreykruz8325 2 жыл бұрын

Dude how you get that mixed up lol

@UncleTinman 2 жыл бұрын

No idea what you're talking about

@MrLee-zp9oj 4 жыл бұрын

Just buy a new sensor

@UncleTinman 4 жыл бұрын

Not everyone is willing to spend money on new parts when it can be repaired. Also... not everyone can source parts easily. We're fortunate in North America to have replacement parts readily available. Some parts of the world it's difficult and expensive. Just giving people options.