This is a very common problem in all hondamatics and not cheap to fix
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@micflynn12 жыл бұрын
They can be FIXED!!!!!!! This is from a post i found, this is NOT ME..... I am a retired Tool and die maker a small hobby machine shop in my barn. I own a Rubicon and Rincon. I just rebuilt a hondamatic from 2001 ruby with 2800 miles and 400 hours. bearing in motor side swivel swash plate went out. (Almost always the problem, if you catch it before too much damage it is fixable, Honda put a bearing with a plastic cage in the motor side swivel swash plate??? if it was a metal cage bearing the hondamatic would still be running strong) a 85 mm x 49 mm x 19 mm angular bearing made only for Honda, can not buy it... a 7209b angular bearing 85 x 45 x 19 does work, make sure it has a metal cage not a cheap one with a plastic cage. must turn down swash plate swivel insert from 49 mm to 45 mm id of bearing. cleaned unit good and check all bearings.( make sure to clean all crap out of the whole unit and the other bearings) saved over a $1000 on a new one. they can be fixed!!! plastic cage breaks and bearing fails, clogs the screen in oil tank and bottom of engine, causing low oil pressure and hondamatic failure from low lube and excessive heat. If you change oil and it has lots of crap including metal in the oil the hondamatic motor side swivel swash plate bearing is toast. STOP DRIVING IT!!! You will most likely have to replace both oil screens, the tank and bottom of engine screens. Make sure to check oil pump for damage, best bet is to put a new one in engine. If you take hondamatic apart be careful with the two rows of small pins with c-clips, they tend to fall out, bearings are tight but they are not pressed in. The swivel swash plate bearing is tight with almost no lip to knock out, so be carful getting it out, i grind a couple of small grooves in old bearing race and use an air chisel to burp it out. It will also remove outside bearing. (make sure to remove the c-clip holding the bearing...) to bad it is so much work to get the hondamatic out. Wish they had designed it to come out by just pulling the front engine cover off and not having to split the case............ Willing to machine and fit bearing if anybody wants to fix their hondamatic. swivel swash plate center is hardened steel but turns down easy on a lathe using ceramic inserts, Honda are good machines.. I just find it hard to believe they put a bearing with a plastic cage in the hondamatic.......7209b bearings with a metal cage are about $60. UPDATE just ordered some from Locate Ball Bearings, KOYO 7209b bearings with metal cage for $45 each. DO NOT USE ONE WITHOUT A METAL CAGE. The one i fixed was caught right away and had no other damage to hondamatic or the rest of the engine, oil pump looked okay but put a new updated one and new pump chain in anyway. Also if front bearing on hondamatic seems a little sloppy, that is how they are. They all seem to be that way even the new units. Just for information in my search for hondamatic info I did find a guy in Minnesota that rebuilds ruby hondamatics. he charges $450 exchange. he is the one who told me about the 7209b bearing. hope this helps a few ruby people out there
@timprather55912 жыл бұрын
What state are you in mike?
@knowyuhgrow420 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing I like people like you that actually try to find out if things can be fixed or not, moving from Barbados to Canada the first thing I realize in the mechanic world in North America is (can’t be fix) that is not a thing where I come from everything can be fix lol
@krzysztofslipecki4584 Жыл бұрын
Could you please provide contact to this guy repairing hondamatic ?
@offthebeatenpath53265 ай бұрын
i agree with @micflynn but i bought a broken 01 honda Rubicon and the bearings were fine i took the swash plate cone off and a pressed in pressure valve had blown apart long story short i happen to have access to a lathe and welder and still had most of the valve so i made my own but i either didnt get a good seal inside of the valve or wear the broken pieces hit some of the inside of the cone made something leak a little and now when my machine gets up to temp it makes it seem like clutch slip when i first give it gas or at any high torque demands also i actually posted on honda rubicon form of the hole process pictures and all but this was probably 10 years ago anyhow i was to lazy to take it back out to try and fix whatever might have a bad seal and just keep on ridding it i plow snow and everything 🙂
@PostcardsfromAlaska5 жыл бұрын
Owned a used Hondamatic Rubicon. It was a nightmare.
@ClutchTFS5 жыл бұрын
Lol I was looking for this comment and it was the only one haha. First time I start hearing noise from mine up for sale it goes!!!
@neilbrown3359 Жыл бұрын
Have a machine shop make a bronze bushing and call it a day !
@shawnjones353 жыл бұрын
My honda rincon when you put it in gear it's like the brakes are on. I jacked it up and rear wheels won't even turn. Guy suppose to have done differential work. It came back worst than it left. When it came back, it has gotten worst and worst.
@eliudriestra92554 жыл бұрын
my ATV is heard a noise when it accelerates do u thing is hondamatic?
@coltonlynn28252 жыл бұрын
How do you know when the bearings bad ? What will the fourwheeler do, will it stop moving or grind or something ?
@juliocheuque65063 жыл бұрын
Hola te puedo hacer una pregunta, sobre el funcionamiento de la trasmisión del honda rincón 680