There’s only one thing better than riding an ST1300, watching videos about riding ST1300s

I've always wanted this bike. If this year goes well I will buy one, give it a good going over, then leave my wife every weekend. She won't see me from Friday afternoon until Sunday night. That's my plan! Right now she goes antique shopping every Sunday (which I hate), and I go golfing every Sunday (which she hates). After 27 years of marriage, I need this bike. I'm certain she would be happy about it. Everyone needs their space. I'll probably come home early one day to find the mailman wearing my bathrobe, but that would be fine with me. I'd say "Take over the note, and she is yours !!" I'd jump back on my ST1300 and go enjoy life like God intended.

Bought mine new in 2002. Over 200k miles to date, and whilst I run a few bikes, the ST1300 is probably the best two wheeled conveyance on the road! I've ridden them all, and some do things better than the Pan, but overall, it's the best!

Great vid as always. One of the best channels around 👍

I had the chance of putting some decent miles on a Pan back in the day. It really surprised me once I got into the "tourer" groove. Absolutely nothing fazed it and it could really hustle on twisty roads. Impressed I was. You got a lot of bike for your money!

Great video fellas, cheers. The Pan is a great bike, got a test lined up on the NT in Jan 2022. No CB Thou in SA? Shame, that's my bike & it's fantastic! Merry Christmas everyone! Blessings from Blighty

I rode a Pan on a test day run by Honda. It was marshalled by motorcycle cops. A Pan can boogie with sportier bikes and handles very well considering it's size. I tried the same with a Gold Wing and nearly embedded myself in a hedge. Never underestimate a good rider on a Pan European.

I’ll stick with my 2011 ST1300. A motorcycle with simple basic equipment that gives me great enjoyment.

I have a 1998 VFR800. Like the Pan, it will live on and on. I've owned over 20 bikes from BMW, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Yamaha and Honda. Honda wins hands down on build quality.

Great video. I don't see a lot of the STs here around (CE Europe). Would love to try one. I enjoyed the video. Cheers.

Before I started riding, I like the STS bikes, I have never ridden one, but would like to someday.

I own an 04 ST and have 105,000 miles and counting. I like it sooo much I just bought an 08 with only 13,000 miles so when my 04 hits the 250k mark, my new(er) one will be ready in the stable. I agree with everything that was said about this bike, buying a used one isn’t a big deal if it was taken care of. I know a gentleman that’s at 280K and counting, so don’t be afraid of picking up a used one with some miles on it.

Have one, love it.

I like the ST 1300. Sie is more comfortable than other Seminar bikes and the motor is really good and long living! A good choice!

The small lcd screen on the Nt is actually a nice touch. You cam use android auto and have the display on your navigation app, and actually have the basic bike info on the secondary screen.

My 04 ST has a 160,000 km and has been nothing short of bullet proof. The stock seat is miserable but I reworked it and high speed stability is only an issue if you ride solo with the top case, remove it and you’ll have no problem. Great bike all around.

i own an 04 running perfectly with 80k miles and ran an st1100 to 120k previously. i also have an fjr and walk right past it regularly because i like the honda better. it doesn't wobble and it doesn't clunk and i don't care if it hasn't got a fancy dash or riding modes with a million stupid buttons and who wants a tourer w/o a shaft.

I had a 2003 and a 2009 ST1300. I put a bit over 100k miles on both. Great tourer. Absolutely reliable as a Boulder. I tried maybe five different windscreens trying to get a more quiet ride. Wind noise was horrid. I never could find that top box you have here in the states. It’s likely discontinued but I heartily recommend the Fairing Deflector kit for better rain and wind protection. One thing should be made clear: the author says the Goldwing is a big bike and the ST1300 is better. The ST1300 is a huge bike. Both of mine were over 700 lbs and carried that weight high. I gave up on my last one because my 73 year old legs were having trouble holding it up at a light. I went to the heavier Goldwing because it has a lower seat and carrys it’s weight lower.

A friend has one. He loves it.

Big fuel tank is a winner, been on my ST1100 for thirty years, vin number 24, 24th Australian delivered bike.

Just boought my second one having had one about 15 years ago... love it and it has low mileage so I can really 'run' it....!!!

Merry Christmas

I have a 2006 model here in Arizona with 70k miles and looks and rides like a Brand New bike...... I love her !

I have a 2008 Kawasaki Concours 14. I absolutely love it. I've put over 20k miles on it in the past 2 years.

Thanks for the comprehensive review. I've had three ST13's as my favorite all-time bike. Tried to replace with RT's and K16's but oddly never liked as well as ST1300. Mine has full Race-Tech suspension which transforms the ride. It has the best seat-peg distance for riders with knee or back pain, much like my adventure bikes. Nothing except the K16 comares in terms of knee angle in the ST category. I'm incredibly disappointed Honda didn't update with a VFR1200T as rumored.

I say the ST stands for super tourer, which is what it was when it was launched in 2003. I have a 2005 Pan European... Excellent bike. The European version is 125bhp.

own one (original 2003) at home and hired one (2007 I think) in Germany some years back and took it (the hired one) on the autobahn the only thing that kept me below 160 the whole way was watching it drink fuel by the bucket load - thanks to the fuel consumption info display - before my eyes but at 100 ~ 120 made a great mile muncher) in a decade plus never experienced the infamous "pan wobble.

Very good rewiev and also comments afrerwards.

This just makes the NT 1100 look so good.

The big Pan is a fantastic bike and why Honda stopped making it is beyond me.

Rediscovering a fantastic bike - and why Honda did not develop this model, I have no idea. Adding cruise, modern dash, rider modes and a few other tech bits would have made a top seller for the big 'H'?

So sad that the ST was discontinued, I've had four. I would have liked them to re-do it like the Goldwing. I bought a 2016 and 2017 ST when I found out that was it for the line. I have a Goldwing too; they are oranges and apples in comparison.

miss my Pan but my current bike, ‘21 Goldwing w/o a trunk, looks a lot like the Pan .. some even call it a ST1800 😊

I had an old ST1100, took it from UK to south of France no problems whatsoever & of course you could do same with the ST1300. Great for long distances on fast roads, reliable and not expensive to maintain. The BMWs are more sophisticated but more expensive to maintain & less reliable you choose. A superb bike for the budget conscious is the V Strom 650, stick a Givi Airstream screen on one & you can do pretty much anything with it...

I've used older iterations of this beauty and really was looking forward to the newly presented Honda NT1100 and came oit of it disappointed. No electric screen no shaft drive no heated seat. Pfff those good old days. You youngsters are already fragile 🤣😉 Me for sure want extra comfort. At that time the Pan European the best for what I needed. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻

Pacific coast next. The 800cc GW :)

Just a kid even at 40.😄😄 Believe or not we have plenty of corners in the U.S. and certainly a lot of mountains. NT1000 for big old scooter looking thing probably is best kept on European roads.

I agree.....I own two

Just needed a sixth gear and cruise control 😎

Why and how did we get into the NT1100 ? I came to see the ST1300 in all its glory

The NT has a chain though, which to me dents its practicality. I want a bike I can use all through our British winter without having to go outside and fiddle with a chain... The Pan was awesome. Simple electronics, updated engine and maybe shedding a few pounds would have made it perfect for today.

I have a ST1100 that I bought new in 1993 and I think it is better than the ST1300

I have an 11 and a 13. Latter is better bike and engine far superior. Tried an NT for a day. Parallel twin is surprisingly good. Panniers awful. No electric screen. No shaft. Excellent handling and comfort but a bit of a let down. But lots of safety tech and well made. I prefer old skool and simple and v4 is the best engine ever made with exception of goldwing 6. Twins are not for touring

put 45k on my '05 ....love this bike.

WORKING ON GETTING ONE....THE PAN THAT IS...

Could always go slightly for a more sporty, sport tourer with the VFR1200 models. They seem to have depreciated extremely quickly (at least here in Oz), and strike me as a lot of bike for the money.

I have owned one for 6 years. Its a 2002 1st gen ST1300. I can not fault it . Only issue I have had is the clutch slave cylinder seal can fail causing loss of clutch fluid pressure when the bike gets hot . This means you can not select gear and leved bites less than 1cm away from the grip . Other than that a brilliant bike by honda .

Sounds like South Africa has the same problem as Canada, with manufacturers choosing not to bring many of their more interesting models to the market.

I have had two ST1300s they are great bikes but dated. They needed to keep it up to date like the BMW R1200RT.

"Ergodynamics" is not a word. It's 2 words smashed together, unpleasantly....

Where can I get the ball mount?

Successor to the VFR800 ?

is the ST1100 a more stable = safer bike

Here I was thinking South Africa gets all the neat stuff we can't get in the US.

Wanted to switch off that high beam all the time...

I think that Honda St1300 engine V4 don’t need to adjust valves because the engine V4 is Vehicle engine likely Accord engine.

Ignoring the high-speed instability issues the ST suffered from, I think the biggest dealbreaker for me would be the looks; I mean, it looks like a big scooter, doesn't it? If I was in the market for a bike in this segment, I'd definitely get the FJR1300, or maybe even a Connie, but for now I'll stick with the Busa 👍

Reliable lovely bike feels like a v4 ducati very relaxing and no electronic rubbish or tft crap bikes are heading in the wrong direction dead end vist dealer cos your tft screen is faulty a massive con

Mine is a st1100 and has crossed the stated five times. The age matters little.

How do yu remove the st1300 weave?

Try the big 57. or the Big 60. or 65. What does that even mean, Hmm? 40 means you are a child...god Bless you young man .

That tractor going in the opposite direction in that tight curve could have turned ugly for a rider not paying attention. Sorry my mistake I should have realize by your accent we weren't in Kansas anymore 😕 🤣😊

your not missing any thing with Honda's down there, they've become very boring and out of touch. the new 1100 twin is more vibey then my old BMW f900 which is the worst. if you make a touring bike you add cylinders not reduce them. All bike manufacturers cocked up a bit here coz of BMW's GS, thinking we all want adventurer bikes, I was almost sold on the idea, but back here in the Uk and Europe you cant pack a tent and go off road for 5 days, and why would you when you can ride through the mountains of Europe on tarmac. We want touring bikes back.

I like my 2007 with only 28,700 miles on it. Yeah I know. I'm way behind on my riding time

How is it possible that some folks still don’t know why Honda included the small LCD below the TFT? It’s because while using CarPlay or Android Auto, the TFT loses the ability to display basic bike data like speed, gear indicator and trip info. So they give you that info below. Isn’t this fairly obvious? Just look at the image of the TFT displaying Android Auto in your own video. Do you see any bike specific data on the s TFT? And yet still after a couple of years on the market, some reviews still point out the LCD and ask “why???”. Did you even bother to ask before you criticized it?

cruisecontrol, heating grips missing otherwise great

I understand why people want a ST1300. But once I drove the st1300 and fjr1300 on the same day and from that moment on, it was very clear to me: as long the fjr1300 existed I would never choose the st1300. It simply too much on the tourer side for me.

A twin will never give the same level of refinement as the ST's V4 (or the Wing's flat 6). It also does not look like a luxury bike like the ST's, the Gold Wing or a BMW RT. I'll stick to my early (1990) ST 1100. When you are as old as I am you can very happily live without all these electronic gadgets. And really ride a bike where the ABS and traction control are you...

the NT is maybe not bad, but is not what we want insded of a Pan, also this adventure style is so silly, its probely fine for some but not for me....

I randomly discovered this model recently, then got sucked into the sports touring fad of decades gone with the FJR1300, Concourse 14, BMW R1200RS, Moto Guzzi Norge, and last but not least, the Triumph Trophy SE. That bike is what I would buy. The Trophy has all the comfort, very long range and low fuel consumption, 137hp 3-cylinder engine with character, all the electronics (from 2014), nice luggage, power ports from front to back, at a used price that's not too far from the Honda ST anymore. The Honda just lacks cruise control and heated grips and the dash looks very dated now.

Nice bike, but not a sportstourer!? That would be a Triumph sprint ST or a ZZR1400 or a VFR800 or…

Dan, I do enjoy watchin your show, but pls never ever ever again allow the wind noise get in the way of engine noise and your own voice.

Don't they flip over 80mph

2008 for me. Great bike.

Honda has blown it again. A great engine company that cant make great engines anymore. While every buyer wants decent power to tour with, Honda pumps out parralell twins that don’t compete in performance with any major manufacturer. Now we get a sports touring bike that cant sport and has less power than they had a decade ago. Thanks but no thanks Honda.

Why does he continue trying to talk whilst riding when all we hear is wind noise ffs!

Service intervals are terrible, not my bike!

NT "nice try"

Had one, cooked my plums in the summer.

Never sell your ST1300. It will last forever and keep its value. Enjoy every moment of your Honda ST1300. This bike pulls like a train and is very agile.

I have a 2007 ST. Typical Honda. Do regular maintenance and they run forever.

I had one. It was a big disappointment. Horrible gear whine, clunked into first gear even though I replaced the clutch, no gear position indicator, no 6th gear, dashboard like an 80's arcade game, handlebars too low. Worst of all, it's predecessor the ST1100 was way ahead of it's time so it was a real disappointment to find the ST1300 was way behind the times. They're cheap because they're not very good.