What's worse is that Epic's CEO made a tweet about 3 months ago shaming companies that have greedy principles... and then has rocket league follow his own greedy principles

Epic never disappoints when it comes to disappointing.

For the first few minutes I was genuinely worried that they were taking away training from the game and didn't realize sunless was just goofing around.

I personally can't throw my money at in-game items so the fact that this is leaving means the one way of getting items is being deleted from the game. In my eyes this is the most selfish move that could've been done and is very reminiscent of extreme corporate greed, the game should've remained in psyonix's hands because the game is now only a shell of it's former glory...

Its really heartbreaking to see rocket leagues downhill. I hope this doesn't actually happen.

Had me in the first half. As a casual gold/plat player I was absolutely gutted there but knew they couldn't have possibly done that.

To be honest I've never traded even once in thousands of hours of play so I won't miss it, but I am still concerned though because it just feels like the game is in an overall dive. For like a year it's just been grind ranked and sometimes they might actually put in a fun LTM that you only see for a few days and then not again for months. The thing that has kept me wanting to play has been the Esports/content creators but even that is starting to get stale for me. I wouldn't mind the lack of content if we had updates for UE5 but its just getting hard to believe that its anywhere near done. I get epic is a business and they want money but it just isn't sustainable for them to remove features while pushing profits.

I wouldnt be surprised if Epic gets the names of all the people swearing in this and bans them, Epic goin downhill

it just sucks because the potential with this game has been seen and showcased for years by all the great content creators and the community. has the biggest potential for comp esports due to the casual watch ability across the world (as its car soccer). and they just have slowly killed one of the most simple yet beautiful games

To me the problem is not so much that they’re removing trading and more so that Epic does absolutely nothing positive for Rocket League. No new game modes, no new unique maps, no new content. They just let the game sit and marinate while adding new items every season.

Becoming a goat farmer doesn’t seem like such a bad option now

Bro really had me perplexed thinking I misread trading for training for the first few minutes

This update is one of the only updates everyone in the rl community has agreed on

I love how sunless can turn such a heartbreaking bit of news for Rocket League and still find ways to laugh and have a good time

One of the responses to the tweet said they were hoping for trading to be replaced with an in game auction house so you could set up trades and they could get accepted anytime with no risk of scam since the trades would be set up in advance. This is sadly too optimistic, if Epic had thought of a way to remove scams, make trading easier and automatic as your trades could get accepted anytime, they would have said something about it.

Had me in the first half. I was like did i miss something

An incredibly terrible decision on Epic's end.. how am I supposed to warm up without freeplay? And how do we know they won't just randomly decide to remove player-to-player trading next?

It’s completely unbelievable how tone deaf they have been. And I don’t think anyone should expect ANY further communication from them about this. They’re going to do it. It’s sad. They genuinely don’t care about us anymore. They haven’t communicated with us in a Long Time. GGs, I’ll miss this game.

you had me in the first half with epic removing training i wouldnt even be suprised 🤣

@johnsandman was the first Rocket League Creator I started watching and as my interest have changed it’s sad to see epic change things that have so much nostalgia, Rocket League has been such a constant in our lives over all these years, so many games have come and gone, yet we all still play RL and new people continue to find the game. You hit the nail on the head early in your video which I gullibly believed training had been removed, when you said an entire section of rocket league is being erased! Thanks for the update!

What Sunless did whether it was intentional or not is actually genius , it showed that some player just don't care, even if the training got removed they still wont care . and if the ball itself got removed they probably wont too.

Im not suprised, i didnt think it would be this severe, but how do you take a community based game, and remove how the community interacts When i first started in this game i would spend days scrolling through trades trying to get a good inventory without spending a ton of money because i was in school, I listened to a lot of good music while doing that, now knowing other people wont get the opportunity to build an inventory on budget by being smart and retrading items, its saddening, genuinly

You really had me thinking I read it completely wrong😂

The divide between those who trade and those who do not is due partly to the fact that new accounts are required to purchase something upwards of $10 before even being allowed to trade. Thus the item shop is the genesis of players with items now

I strongly suggest everybody stop buying anything from the item shop. they’re doing this so they can make more money from the item shop. BOYCOTT THE ITEM SHOP

While I don’t trade a lot, it was nice to know I could buy something for 100 credits exactly at the moment I wanted it. Also some Halloween/Christmas items are very rare and only release once every couple years. Plus there is literally no reason to do it except for more money

This video just got recommended to me so I got scared they were removing training after they already removed trading

"This just in, blue team sucks" is crazy😂😂😂

Something i havent really seen mentioned is what this will do to the smaller creators who used the trading system to do giveaways that supported their channels, taking away a growth tool in this move too. Edit. We hit 169 likes, you can stop liking this now

Absolutely repulsive. Probably the most disgusting thing they could have done. Truly makes my stomach turn.

The remove everything in their path training, custom matches, even casuals, but they will never remove the item shop, because that is their greediness😞

Bro, at the start i thought they was removing trading, AND training. No, I have just been lied to.

Thanks Sunless! I honestly needed a good laugh man. I don't trade as much as other players per se but it's still a really fun experience and it's honestly adds a personable feature to the game. I've literally met friends because of them wanting to trade items and it's genuinely fun with the right people. I know I have extra items I'd be more than happy to give away at this point too. Too bad most companies choose greed first and the players last. I hope Item Shop sales PLUMMET in the coming weeks/months. In any case, thanks Sunless. Don't ever change brother! :)

I really hope that this has something to do with UE5 because otherwise epic games is just killing their game for no reason

Dude, you had me thinking I misread the whole thing

If they added a grand exchange system that would be cool. You can place an item in the G.E at a certain price or for certain trades and someone can fulfill that exactly or give a different offer to review. Or they can remove without a second word.

there's literally no shot that he thought training was being removed

Bro you got me in the beginning I was so shocked they were gonna take training as well

U deadass had me terrified at the beginning of this video that Rocket League removed training as well.....

Back in the day I was trading items all night without sleeping and that's what gave me interest to the game. This is the reason why I kept playing and this is the reason why I am still sweating in ranked and watching all the RL esports tournaments.

Bro... I literally almost cried. First trading, and now TRAINING!? My goodness did you have me in the first half. On a real note though, it's sad to see what this game has slowly come to. You can feel the shift over the years how it's not as much about us the players, our fun and experience in game. To now trying to benefit the people at the top of the pyramid. Rocket league will always have a special place in my heart, but it's just not the same.

Sunless is a mastermind at making these serious video topics into an entertaining one while also getting the community’s point across

the first 4 min had me geeking bahahhaha i thought it was about TRADING to begin with.. then i heard TRAINING might be taken away i was like no wayyyy. then you pulled the most ultimate prank youtube has seen bc at this point mine as well get rid of training too hahahah

“ Here’s another perspective, WHAT A SAVE , WHAT A SAVE “ 😂

"and even more importantly 'tens' of content creators" 😂

LMAOO you got my boy Buckeye at 7:15 😂😂 But fr my hope for the future of this game keeps getting chipped away with every new announcement. They better be planning something big SOON or this game is toast

Also on their discord. Moderators and devs had alt accounts to try and ease tension while also deleting messages

You got me confused for a sec i went on a 10min research looking for where they said they are removing training

I’m going to miss trading. When the game became f2p, I played mostly because of the trading. I liked being able to show off my items to other players. I quit playing mostly because of school but I still kept my eyes on the trading economy. I’ve only spent $5 on the game and I was able to get beta nugget and a bunch of other stuff by trading up. My dream item is alpha cap but ever since the white octane came to the item shop, prices dropped and will never recover. It’s sad that I’ll for sure never get alpha cap.

nah no way homie actually thinks it’s training and not trading

You find people in-game who don't care because the real traders won't be in a game, they'll be trading

We've all seen the news, and are quite annoyed with what's happened about trading. It seems they want to introduce cross game ownership which seems like the nft space a little and how they want to have the ability for nfts to jump to different games, however I think they have done this becuase people aren't buying a 2000 credit item when they can get it on the trade market. Personally I think they should keep trading but have it in game only, which would also such for the 3rd party conpanies however add a tax when trading items, kinda like the grand exchange in runscape. Thoughts?

This is easily the best sunless vid I've seen since rl stereotypes I'd love to meet this man and find out what goes on inside his head to come up with these absolute gems of content

the only thing i think they could do to make this change somewhat okay is if they cut all prices in half or if they added a way to find a item you want directly and buy it without hoping you get it as a random blueprint drop but regardless they are at a lose lose situation

Stopping trading is insanely bad. You are killing an entire community an entire econemy.

Yeah, i used to absolutely love getting a new cool topper at the end of a match. I would get kinda excited when i saw other players with interesting things like that, too. The shop really did ruin that. I mean, i still utilize the self trading system and have gotten some cool stuff, but i can't feel as good about it because i could have just as easily bought any of it, so there's no flex. It sucks

For the RL community, this is like going down by 7 touchdowns in the 4th quarter

I have this insane hope that the backlash is big enough that they do change but I know I am lying to myself.

You know its bad when even staff on the Epic support express they sadness about trading being shutdown in the mails lmao

I haven't seen an item that could be traded that i wanted to trade for in years. Then again, when youre over 1.2k wheels alone, theres not a ton left, and far less id even want.

I have a feeling they are going to roll this back and implement something less severe than removing trading. There’s no way this amount of backlash will go unanswered

So sad that this is happening

my casual friends messaged me MAD about it. we would trade items between eachother to use. now we cant do that

the "10's of content creators" SENT ME

I'm mostly new to this community, and I've loved the game for the past year, the only competitive game I've played long hours since Halo Reach. I've never traded anything with anyone in RL, so I don't think I'm losing out on much personally. It's ultimately all cosmetics, since the real value of the game is in its gameplay. Its complexity entirely dependent on your ability to play it, it truly feels like practicing a real sport! I don't see much need to change that up, but I will agree that one of its negative aspects is how little the devs seem to communicate tho.

What is actually sad is a bunch of players don't understand the impact it will cause to the game, being selfish and saying "it doesn't matter for me" while a portion of the playerbase will leave the game killing rocket league even more. The whole purpose of trading is to get a cool item and use to play, now everyone will have to wait countless days for the item they want to appear in the shop and it will be overpriced.

We've been watching this happen to every major online game over the last 5-10 years now. Its "just trading" now, eventually it'll be more features people enjoy. They'll kill RL1, then RL2 will be arena keys you can buy to play ranked matches and monetizing everything they can think of.

bro you actually made me open up rocket league because I genuinely they were taking away training as well

Aren't they also getting rid of trading 💀

I know the majority of this video was satire however the response of a lot of the players you talked to do not represent the entire player base. A lot of players around GC aren't as invested in items and trading because their focus is on improving. I myself can relate to the sentiment as when I used to play I primarily focused on competitive usually sitting around GC1 - GC2. Despite this I still loved the trading and items as it spawned a whole side of the community that was there to have fun. It was a break from grinding ranked and to indulge in human interaction between peers and friends to talk about the exciting nature of items. This is all gone after 5th Decemeber. And I know that a lot of people who said they didn't care about trading, or items, or crates will find themselves romanticising the days when these features shaped the community.

I appreciate this video more than you'll ever know. Trading for me isn't something where I'm out on the wild trying to catch them all like a ratchet H** and STDs, it was special moments like giving my closest friends wheels or boosts, or my nephews birthday last year when he told me a week before "have you seen the 20xx" and then "it looks so good in titanium white" so I asked him "it's ugly to me, what goal explosion would even match that decal?" ... The look on his face when I told him to give me 3 sets of wheels for credits and I actually put up Dueling Dragons in titanium white and that hideous animated decal. You can't put a price on it... I mean you can, it was 130 exotics but the reaction was well worth it. Epic doesn't care about those kind of stories though because they literally fired 830 people, 2 months before Christmas. 🎉

Ngl he had me in the 1st half...i legit thought training was gone

Epic Games has mastered the talent of disappointing people

You had me scared so bad at the beginning, I've got 480 hours in game and rougly 35 of those are in actual matches, the rest being made up almost entirely by freeplay and dribbling courses. This is not a competitive game to me, it is a skill toy and the only reason I play is it's fun to make the car do cool shit. Thank god training is staying! Removing trading sucks, there've been a few cool items I wanted that weren't possible to get anymore, so I bought them from other people. I use bakkesmod as well, but it feels cool to actually have the things. It's gonna be really disappointing if in a few months from now I see some cool item I missed out on, and knowing that there's zero chance of me getting it.

If they do remove player trading they better absolutely stop giving me the same exact fucking items every time

"yea but what about everyone who isn't chronically online" LOL

Sunless I think you misread the tweet 😂

Sunless you gave me a heart attack bud I say this with the utmost respect hoping to convey trust and love for you and your content I watch tons of RL content but yours tends to be my favorite for information To have an unusually extended portion about them removing training after already hearing from multiple creators about them planning to remove trading was predominantly and likewise intensefyingbly frustrating It immediately made me believe it had happened after it continued for so long and all I wanted to do was uninstall the game and never look back without finishing the video It genuinely felt like it was the end of RL for me Maybe the intensity at which the bit felt real was magnifying how scared I’ve become for Epic Games and their decisions on the game I may never know But Sunless, from one of your forever fans and all time supporters that was mean lol Love you man Please don’t scare me

I just searched up rocket league again to see the state of one of my favourite games I used to play, eager to see the community still thriving and game getting better. Who tf thought of this idea

LOL - a misread, thanks for clearing that up!

I'm really trying to stay positive about the future of this game, but man.. they're making more and more difficult as the years go by.

the problem isn’t that they’re removing trading (although for many this is detrimental). It’s the fact that they have absolutely no respect for the community. If you give them an inch they’ll take a mile.

Lol i knew about the trading but the fact he thought it was training made me so scared

I for four minutes believed that they are also removing training. I would even be that shocked…

Thing is Sunless, their statement is contradictory and I've seen noone else address this: "We’re making this change to align with Epic’s overall approach to game cosmetics and item shop policies, where items aren’t tradable, transferrable, or sellable." But you can "gift" stuff on fortnite thus it is, in fact, transferrable. Edit: They also reset all of the negative reactions on their discord announcement and kept the positive as is, so they are also censoring the communities reaction.

Although it’s very sad to see this happening. Sunless finds so many ways to make me literally laugh out loud 💀

I thought this as well when i saw the announcement but when my friend said trading I re-read it and was not mad anymore becuase i dont even know how to enable 2fa

Like the only explanation I could take is that unreal engine 5 where they will add custom “social maps” to rocket league. Where they dont want people to go in there just to trade. But uh I dont know how social cars can get.

stole noahsnoah's thumbnail lmao, be original bro

Damn. You had us in the first half ngl

I stopped caring about items when they removed crates and keys. There’s no fun in just buying an item for its price. It’s pricey! But when gambling, you could get an expensive item for a low cost. If not, you can trade with someone for something you like. Or trade various normal items in-game for a better one and such. But now there’s no point. I would care for the Rocket Pass subscription if there were crates and keys, otherwise, not spending a dime on the game anymore.

its crazy cus im partners with RL trader as i do full time trading but them shutting it down for some many ppl like me or even the casuall player who just wants one kinda decal, wheel, etc. kinda kills that whole aspect.

i heard about the trading but when u said training i got scared because i thot that was just something i didn't see in the announcment.

you made me shit my pants for a full two minutes thinking they were gonna take training away

I hope Epic knows that nobody is buying shit from them after this

They had us in the first half, ngl

The zoom in on the yuor... ❤❤❤ Lmao

Bro you got me so good at the start I was so pissed😂

7:10 "That's one perspective..but, here's another perspective, uh. WHAT A SAVE! WHAT A SAVE!"

You really stuck to the training bit…. 😂