I must say that stumbling upon your KZfaq videos, have answered many questions of mine. Even the individuals in the comment section plays a huge role in my question as it pertains to Irons. ELITE!
@tonysanta34972 жыл бұрын
I don't let idiots work on my clubs. I watch people like you AJ and learn to do it.
@cliqboom10882 жыл бұрын
Nothing feels like a Mizuno! So, do you ever use heat in the process? I would think it would help the cast clubs withstand the pressures better without sacrificing the grain structure.
@stevedriscoll25398 ай бұрын
That was fun and entertaining as well as informative. I have a need to go flatter on some of my clubs. That's why I came here. Great video.
@burgundymistmetallic3 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say that your content is awesome. I used to work in a clubmaking workshop and you really know your stuff. Hope you soon get the subs and views you deserve.
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the support!
@starwf073 жыл бұрын
Like you said, surprising how far that cast club went. Back when I worked in a golf shop, since I was bending other people's clubs, I was usually pretty conservative with what I said I could bend. I think I told them maybe 1 or 2 degrees for a cast club and 3 or 4 for a forged club. For Pings, I remember trying once or twice, but I had to put so much force on them to get barely any bend, that I wasn't comfortable with it, so I eventually started recommending people go through Ping for adjustments. The shop didn't have an official waiver process like Ping does when you make a repair order, so I didn't want to be on the hook for anything breaking.
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
I still adhere to those amounts. I was shocked how much the cast club bent but would never do that with someone else's clubs or my own for that matter. And like you said, would not even bother with older Ping stuff.
@cbisjr3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the vid! this de-bugs the myth that most club repairer say that you cant bend a cavity back club more than 2*.
@humorss3 жыл бұрын
well I think they don't want to be responsible for breaking it, got to keep it safe.
@ghnelson745 Жыл бұрын
The cracking sound of the cast club is rather familiar! Obviously steel work hardens as it is bent and once it gets hard enough it will break, I broke quite a few years ago from bending them back and forth doing idiotic experiments LOL. A couple years ago I bent some cast clubs upright some as much as 10 degrees or so by bending a few degrees at a time and then heat treating the heads to anneal them. I heat treated them by putting them in a little enclosure I made out of brick and then heating them with a couple of propane torches until they glowed cherry red. After that I closed the enclosure and let them cool very slowly. I could feel the bend stop after a two or three degrees and would know that it was time to heat treat again. LOL Just thought I would mention my experience not that anybody cares! .
@vinnienaidu3 жыл бұрын
Loved the Homer impression, great content from AJ as always. Thank you.
@dkvalour35743 жыл бұрын
Another interesting video AJ. I had my clubs bent twice in the past - 2 deg flat, both sets were cast clubs. The first set had chrome finish and all was fine. The second set had satin finish. A few of the irons showed some sort of surface (coating) cracks near the neck after the bending. Perhaps chrome finish is more durable and can take more punishment.
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
You're right. Chrome is by far the most durable golf club finish, other than raw, which I guess technically is the lack of finish?!?
@davidwilson26573 жыл бұрын
One thing I learned from having irons bent is that is often the reason there is one (or more) clubs in a set that allow for hitting the ball straighter. I long ago established that 1 degree flat from factory specs works for me. In more than one instance the preferred club(s) are already at 1 degree flat from factory specs. I have never even thought about having lofts checked because I have never had a swing that allowed me to hit any club a specific distance.
@FredzGolf2 жыл бұрын
Could be good to check they flow nicely
@terrorfactoryfilms3 жыл бұрын
Great video AJ, thank you as always.
@MrMunchies2x3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and thank you for the video! I think the manufacturer always play a bit tad conservative with how far the iron can be bent. But sometimes, the pro shop or golf store will also play a bit conservative as they don't want to damage the club. Most times I just ask the club to be bent to their default lies/loft,... may be a video to test how much the loft/lie angle can change after playing with them for a year? Steel is typically where we might have issues.
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
I get it. Golf shops would rather not chance breaks as no one would be happy with that.
@cnoto44663 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Awesome video. I've been trying to get someone to bend my irons 2 degrees flat but since they are stainless steel cast, no one will do it so far. I'm encouraged to keep asking around. I've only gone to three shops. They are game improvement steel irons.
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
Not all steel is the same and they may not bend, but it should be pretty simple for someone who knows what they are doing to at least try and see if they want to budge.
@TGGSHOPUSA2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your videos AJ! 🙏
@georgerickard48642 жыл бұрын
My club pro has always given me grief about bending my clubs. I'm five six and according to every fitting I have done, with my height and swing, my clubs should be 2.25° flat! Now I have ammunition to reassure him it will be fine. Thanks again.
@EFGMC2 жыл бұрын
If he is in any way skeptical about doing it, I would find a club builder who is used to doing it. Club pros are not club builders and if he hasn't bent many clubs I wouldn't use him for this.
@kourt24693 жыл бұрын
This is the reason I play soft carbon steel irons now. I typically need 3-4 degrees bending and most soft forged irons bend so easy. I've used some of those high cor irons that have a thin face forged into a softer body but they typically heat treat the whole head after the fact and it makes the body firmer as well making it difficult to bend. I've had my share of snapped hosels on the bending machine over the years.
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
I was shocked that I got as much as I did from the cast head!
@kourt24693 жыл бұрын
@@EFGMC yeah Ive bent my share of cast heads 3-4 degrees. Some will snap at 2 degrees and others will make it further but it's always a gamble. Never had a forged carbon steel head break though. My anxiety goes through the roof trying to bend someone else's cast clubs though 😂
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
@@kourt2469 Whenever a Ping would come through the door. Shiver!
@bobpegram80423 жыл бұрын
Stainless steel DOES have a slight spring effect. They have to be overbent slightly. They then instantly snap back a little. Since this is all when the club is still in the machine, it isn't a problem. You can figure out where it has ended up and adjust farther if necessary. Forged clubs don't have any spring back. They stay exactly where they were moved.
@anthonystreeter72172 жыл бұрын
Great video! Good to know. I have an old set of 762's I was thinking about having bent to "modern" specs just for fun. I don't really care if they're broken in the process. But I don't want to pay to have them broke🤣 we'll see.
@kirkmumby45914 ай бұрын
Very educational.thank you
@michaelhatten4002 жыл бұрын
Your doing great on your videos! "We really enjoy it" made me subscribe
@EFGMC2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@stsgolf143 жыл бұрын
Great video, love the analysis of the two options
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@ricemonster843 жыл бұрын
such great content! thanks AJ
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@seancook22643 жыл бұрын
Great video. I recently ordered a set of MP20-MB irons 2* flat and 2* strong (to match HMB lofts) and going to blend them into HMB’s. Typically my irons are 1* flat with wedges 2* flat expecting to make some loft and lie adjustments once I can test properly after U.K. lockdown!
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
I like the sounds of that setup!
@seancook22643 жыл бұрын
I think lie angle is an interesting one as like most things in the golf industry “standard” varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. Mizuno “standard” typically 1* flatter than say Titelist “standard”. Bit like shaft flex.
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
@@seancook2264 True. That's why everyone should be checking their own lie angles with a sharpie for the particular club they're in.
@coegj3 жыл бұрын
Good video, I too work on clubs ( Maltby Lie/Loft machine ) ( part time hobby ) and have snapped cast clubs. One time years ago I purchased around a dozen different make and model cast clubs to mess with and bust to check how much bend I could get away with, oh I wish I had thought to video the fun me and my buddy had doing damage to the clubs. PS have you ever done a video on bending Hybrids clubs and Hybrid irons, that would be interesting to me, as it is something I don't have the equipment for but might get if Santa is good to me, I would love to see what you do and think on this process. Thanks for any reply.
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
Hybrids are tricky, even with the equipment. The hosel is thinner and I am always worried about warping them during a bend. I've got a couple cheap heads lying around, might have to film a follow up as you suggest.
@petera10333 жыл бұрын
Love your chanel.
@MrUlfdub Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind there IS a difference in Mizuno forgings. They use a longer bar and forge the hosel and clubhead at the same time so the grain is uninterupted from the tip of the hosel to the end of the clubface. Most others forge the clubhead and hosel SEPARATELY and "spin weld" the hosel onto the clubhead. This MAY cause "spin welded" forged hosels to break earlier than the Mizuno you used.
@gerarddiaz25152 жыл бұрын
excellent presentation
@EFGMC2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@macking92953 жыл бұрын
Most component companies Golfworks Dynacraft KZG use a 431 stainless in their cast clubs. More than 2 or 3 is risky. Most OEMs are married to 17-4 for their cast clubs. Up until a few years ago Ping was exclusively 17.4 even in their “better players”line. 17.4 is extremely hard to bend even on the higher dollar Mitchell machines. Or maybe I need to spend more time min the gym!
@1cleandude5 ай бұрын
Would sitting the club in hot water maybe allow you to bend the hosel more and with less effort?
@stumble_leiner Жыл бұрын
It's probably basic for people who would look at such a video but it would be nice if you briefly explained why anyone would want to do this, thanks
@manuelhernandez9448 Жыл бұрын
😂 enjoyed that!
@willdeit60573 жыл бұрын
Great Video Thank you
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and the support!
@europeanprogolftour36286 ай бұрын
HI Aj, have you ever bent Ping clubs? If so how much can you get out of them?
@mikemoodie2 ай бұрын
Probably a stupid question - are the iron lie angles consistent through the set, or change as the clubs lengthen?
@EFGMC2 ай бұрын
Yes, the angle increases as the club gets shorter. Most clubs move in .5 degree increments.
@TKPak17 ай бұрын
Have you tried bending XXIO cast irons? I've the XXIO eleven model irons and would like to bend the AW and PW a couple of degrees stronger lofts.
@EFGMC7 ай бұрын
I have not bent any XXIO irons so can't say what they'd do.
@audreyshanay-yn5ojАй бұрын
Question, can (you) take my Callaway Rogue ST max irons from standard degree, to one degree flatter on the lie, and one degree more on the loft. If this is possible, I know you're the person for it.
@EFGMCАй бұрын
You should be able to do 1 degree.
@lavrentievv3 жыл бұрын
I have wondered if heating the cast irons first with a torch would help the bending without breaking...
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
I've heard that a couple times. Not sure if it would matter or if you would get more issues from heating the head to a high temp.
@ultimatejay7 ай бұрын
It will work but the problem is that you melt the glue in the head and the shaft may come flying out@@EFGMC
@herbgaskin88412 жыл бұрын
A J love your Chanel. I’m a mid 80 golfer and I’m wanting to try forge clubs. Now I’m talking iron heads only. Can you recommend one. Now I don’t want a real expensive because if I don’t like them and then on the other hand no cheapy that may not give me a true forged head feeling. Maybe a shaft also. I will assemble them myself.
@EFGMC2 жыл бұрын
If you're just looking for heads, you might try something like Maltby from Golfworks. They have some beautiful forged heads. Shafts I would need much more info about what you currently use, distances, price, steel v graphite.
@herbgaskin88412 жыл бұрын
@@EFGMC thank you. I will take a look at the Maltby and will be getting back to you about shafts later. Thank again
@redhed97763 жыл бұрын
Excellent video...very well explained...quick question : I need to bend a putter shaft to a 30*shaft bend on single bend shaft..not pos about the actual * it came with.. the putter head was designed by a TM guy, with a reverse angle socket of about 30*... why it was designed like this is beyond me, but you may be aware of sockets that start the shaft leaning away from the golfer... a 90* socket would have been better IMO. any ideas how to bend this shaft, as it is too upright ?? Thanks
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
Think I have this pictured in my head. So the putter stem (socket) is pointing towards the toe of the putter? That being the case, you can bend the stem back towards 90 degrees with a bending bar or even try a mallet with a piece of wood between or use a polymer head mallet to not damage the stem. Clamp the head in a vise and see what you can do. If you have a putter bending jig that would of course be helpful but not necessary. Also guessing this putter is face balanced which it will likely no longer be if you make this adjustment, fyi.
@bobpegram80423 жыл бұрын
Different stainless steel alloys will bend different amounts. 17-4 stainless will hardly bend at all. It was used for early steel drivers and is still used for fairway woods and hybrids especially away from the face. Their faces can sometimes be maraging steel or something else. There is also 15-5, 431, and 304 stainless steel. 304 stainless steel is as soft as forged iron heads. 431 is relatively soft. 15-5 and 17-4 are harder. As an example of a softer alloy, Titleist AP1 cast iron heads will bend fairly easily. They are probably 431.
@markthegolfaddict90513 жыл бұрын
Well that would make a cool key chain lol
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
Maybe necklace also!
@devbuck61123 жыл бұрын
When getting near the limits of the bend (whatever that may be for the type of head), would one run into an issue with the hosel warping and compromising the shaft epoxy? I ask because I play forged one-length clubs, all at 37.5" length, bent up to 65° from the stock 62.5° (and the corresponding loft readjustment) and have had issues with the heads coming off since the first bend. Must add that this was done professionally.
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
2 or 3 degrees bending should not cause any structural issues with the hosel or the epoxy bond. I bend plenty of clubs that amount and have not had that issue (sometimes the same set multiple bends). Most likely the epoxy was already in a bad state and the bending just sped up what was probably going to happen regardless.
@davidwilson26573 жыл бұрын
Done professionally is a pretty broad category. Knowledge and experience can vary widely.
@devbuck61123 жыл бұрын
@@EFGMC I didn't think that it would cause an issue either, especially as the clubs were new from factory. The guy who did the adjustment had many years experience and came well recommended. But it was he who suggested that 3° could be enough to warp the hosel which could cause separation. Thanks for answering so quick too, really enjoying the channel!
@bigbluemsp3 жыл бұрын
7 for a cast is a lot... I've never experienced a cast iron that moved that much. Good experiment.
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I did not see that coming. Probably will do this experiment again with a name brand cast club and see what we get.
@Tui1Hit Жыл бұрын
Would applying heat to the club with a torch make it easier to bend and prevent the club from breaking? The only issue I am thinking with applying heat up the club is for the shaft to come off once the glue melted. I have irons (cast stainless steel) that are 3 degrees upright (Ping green dot) that I want to reduce the lie angle by 2 degrees flatter as I'm older and the swing has gotten flatter. I went to a local golf store but was told that stainless steel irons with time will return to its original casted lie angle, which I found it hard to believe. I think they just didn't want to be responsible if the irons break while bending them.
@EFGMC Жыл бұрын
Metal does not move on it's own. That was a complete lie or just dumb. Ping irons are extremely hard to bend in some cases so they may have just not wanted to try it. I have yet to see any good proof that heat will help this process. In fact everything I have read indicates that it actually will make the club more brittle long term.
@tolesy003 жыл бұрын
AJ, any tips on protecting the finish, top line, and sole on softer heads while bending? Too many times have I taken irons to get adjusted after 1/2-full season of play and they come back all marred up and dented from tool marks.
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
Best advise would be to cover those contact surfaces with some brass sleeves to minimize marring. At the end of the day however some metals and finishes just aren't very tough and you just have to live with it or hang them on the wall.
@yappohyong680011 ай бұрын
What about spinning clubs all shaft hero What about spinning shaft bbe What about spinning shaft befotr installation
@XxPUMAS1xX2 жыл бұрын
Hey so I have a quick question, so I bought a 2iron Taylormade 3degrees upright and I went to dicks to get it bent 1degree flat since it was to much and when they were bending it, they over bent it so they immediately bent it back and a crackling noise was made, I was wondering if I should be worried or should I be good and not worry? No cracks or marks are on the head
@stanleyang7143 Жыл бұрын
When we move iron lie angle flatter like 3 degrees. Does the loft weaken too ? Or stronger?
@EFGMC Жыл бұрын
Loft and lie are independent when dealing with irons. Only when we are dealing with adjustable hosel golf clubs do the 2 become linked.
@kirkmumby45914 ай бұрын
What about cast irons
@Groovethumper69 Жыл бұрын
Nothing feels like a Mizuno... even when it breaks.
@jean-marietop1451 Жыл бұрын
Hi mate. Nice job. Would it be dommageable to change the loft of my Vokey SM8 from 52deg to 50deg ? What about bounce and sole relation to thé ground during the swing ? Cheers.
@EFGMC Жыл бұрын
Yes you can. Bounce would drop 2 degrees and offset would increase. I don't think the bounce would be an issue unless you really dig down with your wedges.
@wezdunny12 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried making a chipper out of a 7-8 iron bending them? Was thinking of trying it as I don’t want a chipper that looks like a chipper
@EFGMC2 жыл бұрын
Funny you mention that. Video is in the works.
@ianshepherd64763 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video of bending back and fourth like one guy bends 2° flat then 1° upright then sells them and next guy bends 4° flat and then back upright and see what happens and even before they fail hit them and see if they are still solid and playable
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
I think it would be iron dependent. I have sets of clubs that I have bent 5 times over a couple seasons because they go off spec and are just very soft.
@bobmorse9381 Жыл бұрын
Can you heat a hozel to get it to bend easier?
@EFGMC Жыл бұрын
No don't do that. From what I have read and been told (as I am not a blacksmith), it does not help and you will actually weaken the metal structure making it more brittle.
@theimpaler50342 жыл бұрын
I live in australia i have a set of mizuno jlx 825pro i cant find a second hand set here in oz can you still get them in the usa or would you recomend that i upgrade to mizuno 919 hot metal i love my jpx825 pro so much my problem is if i buy 2nd hand set have to take to club fitter to fit me and cost will be around $100 per club and also club fitters are a dying trade in australia hard to find em anymore becuase of big club companies
@chubeviewer2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the loft will bend more or less?
@HoganAJL753 жыл бұрын
Hi, how much would you say that a P790 could be bent upright? Thanks
@FredzGolf2 жыл бұрын
Ah nice!!
@bobpegram80423 жыл бұрын
You are assuming the score lines on the face are parallel to the sole of the iron. That isn't always the case. It is better to make sure the sole is flat against the stops and the face is centered in the machine.
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
But that is just as difficult and still requires an amount of faith in the OEM since the soles all have heel to toe camber and the only way I know how to center the face horizontally is using the edge of the scoring lines. In my mind it's just as likely the scoring lines are incorrectly positioned horizontally as they are parallel to the sole. That's my take at least.
@benwilmarth5473 Жыл бұрын
If you were to pick from 2deg 3deg or more what degree of change from stock position is safe to move most forged irons on lie & loft?
@EFGMC Жыл бұрын
Lie is easier to move mainly because it's isolated. When you start moving loft, you also need to factor in changes in bounce and offset.
@E34525IX2 жыл бұрын
I am considering buying used ping g710 irons with 2* upright. I would need them to be back to „normal“. Did you ever tried to bend these kind of irons?
@EFGMC2 жыл бұрын
Ping in general is very very difficult to bend. Better off sending to Ping and having them adjust them.
@HD-tv1xf2 жыл бұрын
Can you bend the lie of hybrids (taylormade RBZ)?
@EFGMC2 жыл бұрын
I've never tried personally. Could probably get a degree or so out of it but can't be sure.
@luxurytimepieces14703 жыл бұрын
Love the videos. I have been fit a few times for irons and given standard lie angles and lengths. My mizuno jpx 919 forged have a low trajectory especially in the longer irons. Discovered recently my wingspan finger tip to finger tip is 70.5 inches and my height is 66 inches. My wrist to floor is 31 inches also... I am wondering have you ever adjusted irons for lie and length for someone with similar measurements? And does loft need to be adjusted with the changes in lie angle? Any info would be very much appreciated thanks
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
I would do the straight line test to check the lie angles. Lofts will be independent of lie and should be adjusted separately.
@ultimatejay7 ай бұрын
Are you a Chimpanzee?
@dannydeakins49382 жыл бұрын
Wish you had done a up angle bend
@starkravingmadd2 жыл бұрын
Would you get any more bend if you applied heat? Maybe with a propane torch?
@EFGMC2 жыл бұрын
I've never personally tried it. Heard some people say it works.
@bulmariogonzalez5747 Жыл бұрын
AJ…I follow your feed and just came across this vid; what about changing loft? or at least checking it periodically? Does playing potentially change the loft/lie on forged clubs? Thx
@EFGMC Жыл бұрын
Yes, irons can go out of spec for both loft and lie. Certain clubs are very soft and are far more likely to move. Also if you hit off a lot of mats you can get more movement.
@barrycohen94303 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I’ve been playing Callaway Pro irons for several years. Last year, after many back and forth emails with my local Club Champion where I was fitted for these irons and new shafts at more than $1,000, I wanted the loft and lies checked. They reluctantly agreed. They checked the lofts and had me swing only a 6 iron, said the lie was ok; never checked any of the other irons and then told me they can’t bend cast clubs!
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
After spending that much, if they weren't willing to adjust, they should have paid to send them to Callaway.
@barrycohen94303 жыл бұрын
@@EFGMC needless to say, but I won’t be going to Club Champion for my next fitting. I’ll be trying True Spec or Cool Clubs which are close by. Customer service counts!
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
@@barrycohen9430 I've seen some questionable fittings come out of True Spec. They seem to use all the same tricks that Club Champion employs. Heard of fewer Cool Clubs fittings, but they seem better at least from what I've heard.
@vharrald Жыл бұрын
I was told I could not get my cast irons loft adjusted... Was I lied too by pga golf superstore?
@EFGMC Жыл бұрын
Most cast clubs can be bent however the amount can vary greatly from model to model. Often the big stores like that don't want to run the risk of some novice snapping one of your irons so they just say no.
@vharrald Жыл бұрын
@@EFGMC I was only wanting to bend a few irons a couple degrees stronger, my sw 4 degrees weaker, pw 4-5 degrees stronger
@EFGMC Жыл бұрын
@@vharrald 4 or 5 degrees is going to make any club builder flinch. I would never promise I could get that, would just have to try and see what the club gives me.
@vharrald Жыл бұрын
@@EFGMC ok, thank you
@13AaronT2 жыл бұрын
Would it be reasonable for me to expect to find a club fitter to be able to bend my Taylormade M4 2018 cast irons? They are new and have been used 2 times and I feel like they need a 1 or 2 degree adjustment flat.
@EFGMC2 жыл бұрын
You should be able to get that out of them. Really just depends on the club maker. Don't assume a fitter knows what they are doing though.
@spookyboi84463 жыл бұрын
Was looking to get a nicer set of clubs. I have a set from when I was like 17 and now im 23. I used to play baseball so my mechanics are pretty good and I can swing it pretty good and I make solid contact. Wanted to know if there are some good clubs that will give me more reason to go out and play. I dont need a pro set but id like a nice set. Ive been looking at the Cobra steel set and the Strata Callaway set but I am worried with how fast I swing the club that the shaft on the Stratas might not hold up.
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
The starter sets in general will not be as durable as more expensive clubs that you buy not as a complete set. I think it's reasonable to believe the shafts in the Stratas may not hold up well over time. If you are trying to keep it within a reasonable budget I would be looking at couple year old models or used clubs. Cobra in general sees a pretty good price drop when they move onto a new model. Callaway has a pre-owned site where you can get used, and like new equipment at really good prices depending on sales. I buy a good bit from that site and am always impressed with the condition of the clubs.
@spookyboi84463 жыл бұрын
@@EFGMC thanks a ton I appreciate the feedback.
@lacabala313 жыл бұрын
So we can guess that Loft bending results should be similar, enough for a typical loft adjust +/- 1 or 2 degrees on a cast iron, isn't?
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
Correct. If the club is going to move, it will move in any direction for a few degrees. At least as much as someone would reasonably want.
@chuckgauthier23743 жыл бұрын
Is that a Golfworks economy bending machine? Thinking of getting one! Would you recommend it?
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
It is from Golfworks but it's not the economy model. It's the Golf Mechanix Clubmakers model.
@lucksimi3320 Жыл бұрын
hI Can i bent Titleist TM-B 718( Cast Iron 17-3ss)?
@EFGMC Жыл бұрын
Should be able to get a little I think.
@oldben18002 жыл бұрын
Imagin buying all vokeys and bending them to a complete set....Ive always though Vokey should break off and make their own MB style set
@EFGMC2 жыл бұрын
Vokeys don't like to bend so it would be a tough road to get anything over 2-3 degrees.
@oldben18002 жыл бұрын
@@EFGMC ahh, well then Vokey should just make a set lol id buy it
@EFGMC2 жыл бұрын
@@oldben1800 I would too. Of course they'd probably cost $10K!
@oldben18002 жыл бұрын
@@EFGMC lol ya that would be insane to have a set like that though.
@philr19243 жыл бұрын
Very cool video! I had cast irons (Rogue Xs) that were 2 degrees weak when I bought them used. I had the golf store bend them to standard. After a few weeks I noticed that I was suddenly hitting my irons much shorter and I went back to the golf store and had them checked and they told me they had returned to their previous lofts. Is it true that cast irons will do that?
@davidwilson26573 жыл бұрын
A lot depends on what your idea of much shorter is. There is an easy way to determine if that golf store was being honest with you. Have the clubs measured at another golf store.
@philr19243 жыл бұрын
@@davidwilson2657 good suggestion, but too late, I got fed up with those irons and got Apex CF 19s, which I love.
@ammartinezguzman3 жыл бұрын
No way cast irons could had been delofted in few weeks
@davidwilson26573 жыл бұрын
@@ammartinezguzman Much more likely to happen with forged clubs, and still very hard to believe. And even harder to believe that every club would be altered in the same way.
@dkarlovsky3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to get my 2018 Costco Callaway Edge iron lie angles adjusted to +2*. I'm assuming they are cast. Do you think those could go 2* without snapping? Thanks!
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
They should be fine if done by someone who knows what they’re doing. Can’t say if they will be able to get 2 out of them, but you can usually tell when a club doesn’t want to go any further unless it was a really crappy casting.
@termides2 жыл бұрын
I have some old paying g5s which I really like with the lofts are not up to modern day standards. I asked my club fitter if he could make them 2° stronger and he said that iron would not do that it would break. Is that true or is it just a possibility?
@EFGMC2 жыл бұрын
Pings, especially older Pings are horrible to try and bend. I almost always recommend sending them back to Ping when it comes to bending.
@legend9018 Жыл бұрын
I see the lie adjustment maximum but what about loft adjustment maximums. Is there a difference or less risk of breakage?
@EFGMC Жыл бұрын
Based on where it broke I would say the amount will be about the same regardless of bend plane.
@legend9018 Жыл бұрын
@@EFGMC thanks!
@judywilcox12933 жыл бұрын
what about bending beryllium ping eye2 heads for loft can you bend a head 4* strong on any club 5 through sw
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
Old Pings are notoriously difficult to bend. Don't think you could ever get more than 1 degree out of them if that. I would contact Ping to see if they would do it. That being said, I would not recommend bending those clubs 4 degrees stronger as you will remove all the bounce built into them.
@Mj-CWO43 жыл бұрын
I have tommy armor Ti 100 titanium clubs can they be bent?
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
First guess would be minimally at best, but I've never bent them before so I can't be sure.
@kourt24693 жыл бұрын
how accurate are scoring lines as far as being parallel to the sole of the club? I swear I've had some clubs where the scoring lines aren't quite level with the sole, maybe I'm crazy though
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
It can happen, but I would say most are going to be very close. If you have a level and you know your bending rig is level, you could always double check.
@claudetexas2 жыл бұрын
What brand of machine is that?
@EFGMC2 жыл бұрын
Golf Mechanix
@jimhenry21553 жыл бұрын
I have 30 year old Ping Zing (Cast) irons U bought used before I understood Lie Angle importance. I need lie angle adjusted 3° from 1° Flat (Red Dot) to 2° upright (Green Dot) I can send to Ping but due to their age (30+ years) they won't guarantee they will survive. A local spinnaker is willing to adjust the lie but again won't guarantee. Do you think the risk of damage is large? Enjiy your videos
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Ping, and especially old Ping were very very difficult to bend. I would only recommend sending to Ping although they aren't giving you much confidence either it sounds like. My guess would be 60% chance it goes fine, %40 chance of issue. Having some random guy try it, I'd reverse those odds.
@ultimatejay7 ай бұрын
You can just bend them back and weld them up and they would work fine
@owenfavro22903 жыл бұрын
would tempering the hosel help
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
Maybe. That's above my pay grade. Would need an engineer or blacksmith to help with that answer. My guess is not enough to make it worth the effort though.
@danielrobert71812 жыл бұрын
OK, I'm a bit late but to kill a good Mizuno could get you indicted. Well, shooting it dead would have been alright of course in the US of A but bending its daylight out is not humane and that's a nono. Regards !
@ulster77173 жыл бұрын
I tried to get a club maker to supply a 64o lob wedge (forged) with a70o lie angle from about 64o. Said he wouldn’t go more than 3o as it would effect bounce. Would you agree.
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
Lie angle has zero effect on bounce. Loft changes will change the bounce an equal amount so if you add loft, you add the same number of bounce in degrees.
@ulster77173 жыл бұрын
@@EFGMC Thank you. I thought as much but couldn’t think of anyone to confirm until I came across your channel.
@denny24273 жыл бұрын
After I had lie angle adjustment at shop for my forged iron, all my irons got little ding mark right above iron number on the iron sole. Is it normal??
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Soft irons will often get slight indentations from where the bending machine contact points sit (usually 2 marks). I know some people will try and use thin pieces of brass or similar to minimize this but I personally don't. Those marks don't change anything.
@denny24273 жыл бұрын
@@EFGMC thank you so much !! Since it is a brand new pxg iron, it hurts my feelings everytime I look at the iron T.T.
@gilgarza29032 жыл бұрын
What about loft? Looking to get a set of Mizuno MP-14's and they are really weak loft. PW is 50°.
@EFGMC2 жыл бұрын
You can get 3-4 degrees no problem with Mizuno. Be aware that strengthening loft will increase offset and lower bounce.
@gilgarza29032 жыл бұрын
@@EFGMC Thanks, I was aware of the bounce, but the offset.
@bryanduchane23713 жыл бұрын
What is the typical fee to have a club bent?? Just bought the Mizuno MP20 HMB's and want them bent a bit flat..
@EFGMC3 жыл бұрын
Probably around $5 per club most places.
@cornpop9045 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't you do this experiment with changing the lofts..?
@EFGMC Жыл бұрын
You probably would not want to bend loft more than 3 degrees so that should not be an issue. Changing loft brings in other variables when adjusting.
@cornpop9045 Жыл бұрын
@@EFGMC oh, what about a left handed Taylormade adapter in a right handed head. Do the numbers reverse.?