It is! 😀👍

We need that also

😂😂😂😂😂

Luckily it never shined in the cold war...

​@@aronmarkovits5396'Shone'. Tell everybody - 'shined' is everywhere now. Please kick me. All best.

They call it Stalins organ, no the musical instrument you idiot

What are the elephants?

​​@@user-up1id5rv2m Ferdinand/Elefant tank destroyer Used by the third Reich

@@apfsds414 Ouhh nice, never heard of that one, I'll look into this more, thanks for sharing ;)

​@@user-up1id5rv2mI think he was referring to the "mouse."

@@seanlee2730 The cheetah waits in its hidden position, allowing the drone to get closer. Speed is the key and a closer target is an easier target.

😂😂😂​@@LordBloodraven

Ya C RAM on a tank platform . Deadly sir . Wish I had one in my backyard .

Whu don't they repurpose these for armored support when storming tree lines? At 1,100 rounds per minute, the enemy trenches would be evacuated in solids or liquids and their cover would be obliterated. That's also been the difference for Ukraine in making sustainable progress. They don't have close ground support. If Russia were fighting the U.S., there would be no trenches because the tree lines would be annihilated as soon as Russia moved into them.

THAT'S GREAT AND ALL, BUT TELL US HOW DAMN WELL THEY INTERCEPTED and don't say you were in that yet but even tested it over there? (I'm certain no base, especially "Joint" J... has yet to be attacked. >>> SO, DID YOU TEST IT ON FLYING DUMMIES OR NOT? WHAT'S IT'S PERCENTAGE INTERCEPTING???

They're too valuable to be used in the frontline. They have expensive radar and fire​control suites @Ericsaidful and Ukraine only has less than a hundred of them. You bring up the very valid point of missing support. There's many ways to go about this. One way would be to just give them way more artillery. Assault guns or even light tanks could also work. As of now, for lack of more specialized equipment, they're using almost exclusively main battles tanks. Personally, I think they need more AA first, then artillery, and only then other stuff.

@@TheSlazzer Can you repurpose the manufacturing element to simply turn them into mobile turrets?

Now imagine german weaponry in 2024...

2023: the pretty expensive Leopard 2s proved to be ineffective in an environment with trenches, minefields, drones and infantry AT weapons.

​@@Sycokaythat's a matter of doctrine and tactics, while a few Leopards where lost at first, they are now using them at a longer range, where russian atgms are to slow to properly react.

@@Sycokay Any Tank proved to be ineffective in such an enviroment.

@@SycokayDamn who would’ve known that tanks in a place where they’re at a disadvantage would fail

Perhaps Germany may reintroduce them or develop new models after seeing their effectiveness, this is good publicity, there may be more demand for such equipment now and other countries are bound to buy more as well.

Agreed. At least we will get Skyranger now, which is even better than Gepard.

@@andysibaja8666we did… calls MANTIS… much more powerfull. And Its mobile with the german BOXER

Gepards is really super old thing, even ammo not available sent with 6000 rounds for 37 Gepards range 5km... only chance is that Shaheds pass by...New rounds arrived from swiss sept or oct.. hope it works but I would like have this protection only. We would laught to see Shilkas and tunguska at russian side. Even the Pantsir 2013 hardly kills Ukrainians drones. 😢....💙🇺🇦

Am I safe in assuming, from the way you phrased your comment, that they were taken out of service because there's something better in the works?

Гитлер тоже так думал.

​@@sergeiivanov433 Путлер капутт

​@@maximusvaterus5718cringe

@@sergeiivanov433they decimated your ruski airforce in ww2…. Like literally OBLITERATED everything you had

Yupp. And anyone that does not believe it can simply look up the MANTIS weapons system. Shit's scarier than the A10.

Your confusing this weapon system with the Phalanx CIWS/C-RAM that has a tracer every 3-5 rounds. This however does not. Flakpanzer Gepard current Ammo is: HEI-T (High Explosive Incendiary-Tracer) or APDS-T (Armor Piercing Discarding Sabot-Tracer)

​@@luftwaffles274 Are you saying, that every round out of this thing regardless of type, has some form of tracer capability?

@@Katrina_Korolev if the round type ends with an "T" then yes.. like HEI-T for example.. there are non tracer rounds but they don't get used or produced much anymore. The rate of fire is slow enough to warrant every round to be a tracer especially in today's circumstance when gunners would be potentially eyeballing shots onto target too small for radar targeting computer to lock on to.

@@luftwaffles274but a CRAM does have a HEI-T every round, only 50 cals and other smaller machine guns fire a tracer every 3-5 rounds

​​@@luftwaffles274Unless the drone is around a commercial quadcopter size and flying sub 100 feet most modern radars will pick them up. For everything larger than a quad aka Shaheed series and KAS-04 variants they'll get picked up pretty regularly sub 100 feet (terrain dependent)

I mean the way those things work didn't really change in the last hindret years: gun makes Pew Pew and shoot down da thing in sky high above.

@@crispyduck5192 yes, sure, but pew pew got better and fly fly as well.

@@Mare0912 they do but the technique of just shooting a lot off bullets against something in the sky just works. Nothing to be done wrong really

That's German Engineering for you.

@@crispyduck5192They do NOT fire a lot of shells. A burst of 6 is enough to destroy any aerial target. Also the onboard computerized aiming system was replaced with the most modern one available only a few years before Germany retired the Gepard.

Its really not. The Tungushka M1 have 5 thousand rounds per minute capability and its too fire 30 milimeters rounds. Besides, those cannons are only shooting small bursts to conserve ammunition. With continuous fire, they would probably gone dry after 30-40 seconds at most.

@@Zappina First of all, the 2K22 Tunuska (2S6 Treugolnik) was developed 10 years (1970) after the Flkpz Gepard and is basically just a bad copy of it! It has two 30mm 2A38 machine guns with max. 1936 rounds! Whereby he can fire about 1050 rounds / min (per cannon) - (theoretically!!! 4200 shots / min. in total). The range is max. 8km and effective 3500m! Also it fires only burst of 80-250 rounds, otherwise the muntion is immediately empty! It is known that the Tunguska often had problems when firing! In addition, this has 4 anti-aircraft missiles. The Tunuska is inferior to the Gepard in many respects!

35mm, I’m fact. These are larger than the GAU-8 projectiles.

WTF! 30mm diameter beer bottle??? This is a crime against humanity!!!!

@@norrinradd2364 it's the most common item of somewhat uniform shape in every nation. Figured that was the closest comparison.

It's not a German problem. All the western militaries fell on their ass with their air defense strategy. That strategy consisting of merely "let the USAF handle it, lol" There's very few SHORAD systems in western militaries that aren't missile based, which makes them a bad choice against drones. Even Gepard, good as it is, is too expensive to field in the numbers that would realistically be needed. That's the case for most of them. Skyranger (on either Boxer or Piranha) might be a decent choice, once it's actually being fielded.

​​@@Killerpixel11its why you never scrap the old stuff You save them in museums and archives

Что хотите как 1945 году не играйте с медведем, ваши киски горят как спички, так что не надо.

the gepard isnt a tank, did you forget our defense minister? "der gepard ist kein panzer weil er in die luft schießen kann" :D

​@Killerpixel11 It's not so much that as it is the mentality that short-range anti-aircraft systems were obsolete. And they were - until drones became a thing. Now, they are seeing a huge resurgence, and Western militaries are scrambling to build a solution. A short-range AA system is also way cheaper to operate, and missiles struggle to track most drones.

To cheapen the price?

They probably weren't shooting at slow moving drones.

Glad to hear. Hope we can send more. And my stupid gov needs to send Taurus now. Perfekt for krimean bridge and more. Slava Ukraini 🇩🇪 🇺🇦

Russians will make it toilet paper

As a German I agree on everything said above, especially on sending Taurus and the stupid government. Cheers

It's sholtzs fault as he keeps blocking the Taurus to Ukraine you should remember that him and schroeder had many many business interests in ruSSia before the war , plus when at uni he was in the communist party and was a informer for the east German police .

@miguelpi8831 helo COMRADESHIP ORC I'm sure Spain is a wonderful place to live but unfortunately there's too many traitors like you why don't you go and move to ruSSia sure you will be welcomed with open arms .

The US rather uses M- , F-, T-, and so on. Russia rather uses just T-,. Everyone has their own 😊

We basically have a den of tanks XD

@@alex-tq4ziwat do u mean? The americans do give names to their armored vehicles. Abrams, bradley, stryker, booker, pershing, paladin, sherman… Not as concise as the germans ofcourse, they have a whole catalog of tracked/wheeled felines😂

I'd name my German tank Pussycat.

@@arsyadidris6349 i know. But most of the time its a letter of those i mentioned above and then the name. Just like the germans. The WW2 german tanks all had this kind of name. Like the Panzer 5 Panther or the Panzer 6 Tiger. The US does the same thing. The *M4* Sherman, the *M1* Abrams, M26 Pershing etc etc

Precisely. You can find footage of tests with it and the drones look very similar.

کلا ۱۰ تا زده🤣🤣 روزی صدتا شاهد میخوره تو سرش🤣💪💪

Shahed136💪💪💪

@@saman_asaseh1323 Watch the exercises videos for yourself, the Gepard can shoot even the smallest quadrocopter drones out of the sky. The standard target practice drones are even smaller than a Shahed, which is why the Gepard shoots down the Shahed with ease

@@MrWasGehtSieDasAn01 shahed136 is not quadrcopter!!!!

Plane*

Plane*

Yup 550 Per barrel

Hardheim?

@@ChaptermasterGordian Todendorf

Yes and I heard Ukraine is testing a skyranger system now.

Estoy ansioso por ver ese sistema en acción en Ucrania. Lo cobsuderi el mejor sistema antiaéreo basado en cañones en la actualidad 👌🏽

How intimidating for a primary target of a gepard.

Fail epically

🇩🇪🤝🇺🇸

Germany don't love USA shut up

Without Germany, there would be no Scorpions or Ramstein, both of which are INCREDIBLY necessary to my future happiness. 🤔

And we don't love you 😂😂😂

PTRL ?

Actually, it's sad that they're needed because this small Joseph Vladimir Putler, aka. Dobby the bunker elve needs to be bigger than he is. But I'm happy, that us Germans, manufacturered once this beast and now they're being helpful but... Actually... 🔝♾️

Panzerkampfwagen VII Löwe (VK 70.01) war der Entwurf ...

I thought the Same, but actually, a Drone IS nothing Else than a rather large and very slow incoming RPG Grenade... Wich Cheetah IS designed for...so it basicaly is bored of Shooting some lame ass drones...

The Gepard was developed for much more difficult tasks than shooting down easy targets like this drones. But that is one of the reasons why it can be so effective doing so. The Gepard is an extremely good system to protect troops on the ground against threats from the air. Even when these troops are on the move. Something modern systems like skynex can't provide. It was a stupidity that Germany phased them out without having a proper replacement.

A drone is significally slower than a missile and probably way way way cheaper...

It was also retired before someone thought about drones being a thing. :-(

@@Astrofrank No, in the military and in the Industrie they were already shure that drones would become much more relevant in the following Years. The politic didn't want to see that.

Laughs in Flak 8.8

For Frodo......

*fires in full auto *

Probably his grampa was a Russian rapist

Me: ITS AN OLD FLAK WEAPON! YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO! German: for MY GRAMPA!

Russia does not have a hypersonics. Kinzhal is a balistic missile.

@@stupidbro2301 It's hypersonic in it's boost phase, not it's terminal phase.

@@BlackEpyon By this logic, Hitlers V-2 is also hypersonic 🤣🤣🤣

He literally mentions a particular Gepard crew shooting down _"two cruise missiles."_

@@hisredrighthand5212 I didn't say it couldn't take out some cruise missiles while it's at it. I just meant that shooting a Patriot at a flying lawnmower is a waste.

As far as I remember the ahead munition was developed by Rheinmetal for the gepard. It was one of the reasons the German Army modernised all gepards to the 1a5 standard. These gepards got the electronics and systems to use modern munition like ahead.

It does use AHEAD ammo. Thats why you can see the programming rings at the muzzle.

Spotted the Advance Wars player.

@@somederp8915 Not the only one who knows how to do that it seems.

The US used the M-42, with twin 40 mm Boofers against vehicles and especially infantry during the Viet Nam war.

The US used the M-42, with twin 40 mm Boofers against vehicles and especially infantry during the Viet Nam war.

Lmao what redemption arc? The Ukrainians have been complaining for months about the lack of western support, there is plenty of evidence about Germany drip feeding supplies

Today you would build the Sky Ranger on a Boxer chassis. Single gun but the same rate of fire, better radar, and with wheels. A bit more precise but cheaper in production and maintanance.

@karstenschuhmann8334 thank you for telling me about that I do have a feeling Ukraine will use BTR-4 chassis with skynex turret. Unless they are able to get the license for Boxer APC

yea, drones really have changed the battlefield

@@Dennan battlefields are always changing

@@hildemel ya thats true :P thats the real hard part about war, you never know what new ways of war will come.

Well it cost to much to use. Meaning the people needed to operate them. Since Germany reduced its forces it was obselete, they rely today to much on stationary AA weapons, which could be operated by a single team in far distances, like drone operators. The Gepard is great for those that have the manpower to operate. But since Germany basically halved it forces, in their eyes these kind of AA tanks were useless. But the German Gov is changing now, since Russia has shown us Germans peace time is over.

@@kamikazestryker force reduction has nothing to do with whether a piece of equipment is obsolete

Yep, they look very similar. It’s an effective design..well, which is obviously, since it’s German. I think the are put to good use in Ukraine..

​@@erebostd *Swizz

Ok and now?🤨

Are you saying that you actually get paid for other military reviews?

@@TheSkillkeeper Haha, I also thought that "I am not paid to comment on this" is an oddly specific thing to say on a random comment about a weapons system.

​@@Bitfire31337 I'd chalk it up to overthinking while typing it down and not recognizing that it sounds kinda suspicious to randomly say

Because Russia shit sucks and doesn't take much effort to take down. Why do you think Nazi Russia relies on numbers more than quality?

Maybe 450%, remember "10 shahed 136 drones and 2 Cruise missiles" only with dual 30mm AA guns and a radar.

Zwłaszcza siekiery, noże, kosy i widły, tak jak zabijali w najokrutniejszy sposób Polaków. Oni technikę w sposób nadzwyczajny to potrafią niszczyć i nic poza tym.

​@@leonzawodowiec3824Maybe stop hiding behind a fake account Russian? Too scared to die in the frontlines in Ukraine and too scared to show your true name online. Russian orcs are truly evil cowards. 😂

@@ariefmufti And a ballistic computer aiming and guiding the guns based on weather information speed trajectory and distance of the target and the ballsitic properties of the projectiles - Also they might be shooting airburst ammo which explodes just before the target releasing a cloud of tungsten particles shredding the target.

Tks for your greatest nobility and independence thinking.

Are you kidding me saying sorry for your country helping it's ally? Instead you should see it for what it is a proxy war for the West to fight and test out it's gear on Russia, ultimately you being in Iran should concentrate your attention to a country a little closer to you, who wants to drag your country into WWIII

Nice try, Zelenskiy, nice try😂

How did u feel about all european countries that helped and armed Sadam Hussein with arms, bombs , chemical weapons and fighter jets during Iraq-Iran war ? Do you also feel sorry for US that arms IDF with every type of bomb and fighter jets to bomb civilians and hospitals ? FYI, Iran sold drones to Russia way before Ukraine war started. I hope you don't die of double standard cause that's a killer virus man.

I guess not every Iranian understands geopolitics. Western propaganda reaches far...

it can take out aa tank with its 35 mm guns... what more would you like to blow up, exactly? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flakpanzer_Gepard

if a drone gets hit by a gepard its not captured, its confetti.

There is little to be captured, put guns shred them

Idiot, the same can be said about your country. All your wishes come back to you.

Cry more

Shaheds are one way ticket only.

yes, you could work as you want now for your master spending millions in Monaco :)

please give me credit and i will give you back money, a clown man said that

Cruise missiles are slow

Mexico ❤ Russia

If only we 🇺🇸 had a ground-mobile M61 C-RAM. Then I'd be able to challenge that statement 😂 Yes, currently the rolling German radar-guided autocannon is the business👏 🇩🇪 🍻

It's a very old system. The last gepard was build in 1980. Nobody stil produces them. Don't get me wrong, old doesn't mean bad. But you can't buy them anywhere nowadays. The last few that could be bought are in the Ukraine now and I am really happy that they can help protect the Ukrainian people. I don't think the Ukrainians would sell a single unit in this situation. I always was convinced that the gepard was an important and very capable system and I always was convinced that it was a stupid decision that the German army phased them out. Specially because it was obvious, that drones would become an important factor a vew years later. But obviously no one took this serious in the German politics or in the ranks of the German generals. Now the gepard shows how good and important this system is.

Украина не победит в этой войне.

Завали хлебало, клоун@@evilkat8143

Wrong Ukraine picked a fight with the wrong army.

@@MrAce2000but Ukraine didn’t pick a fight

​​​@@MrAce2000no but Ukraine will finish the fight with Russia's pathetic Army.

slowly slowly ukraine map will vanished one day

@@riderpraniz3944well… no. Ukraine is gaining ground every day

😂😂😂😂 Ukraine doesn't have none of these weapons I can't believe it is like you believe everything you see on the internet

@@MrAce2000 Even more to come 👍🇺🇦✌️

​@@MrAce2000uhm, 😂 layoffs at paint chips they have many of these Gebhardt's and many more to come we won't stop will keep sending and keep sending until Russia is destroyed.

@@badmonkey2222 You clearly don't give a damn about the consequences of this conflict due to NATO's interference into everybody's f****** business!. Again how's the life living underneath the rock going for you.

@@MrAce2000im german, I saw them being delivered you kek

Genau meine Meinung

Многих украинских жителей спасет капитуляция Украины. За какие права украинское правительство борется?

​@@evilkat8143das Töten hört nach Ende der Kämpfe nicht auf. Hat man in Bucha gesehen

@@Hans._A._Pils это тот город, который украинская сторона обстреливала из артиллерии? Тот, в котором лежали трупы с белыми повязками и в телах которых были обнаружены флешетты из украинских снарядов? Да ты умëн.

@@evilkat8143 sprichst du auch eine zivilisierte Sprache?

Panthers :DD

It's much more sustainable than using missile counter measures or losing tanks/vehicles to those tiny ass drones.

Yes, but why should someone shoot it like that? Bursts are enough to hit the target.

@@Schmudini That also means it's only got 13 short bursts before it's out of ammo.

@@firstcynic92 Short burst are only 3-5 shells. And two burst are normally sufficient for a drone. Those are rather easy targets (slow and cannot shoot back). And that cheap are those Shaheds also not.

@@martinstock Not on the Gepard. A short burst is 24 from each gun, 48 total (5 seconds). A long burst is 96 total shells (10 seconds).

No, the main problem is the EU's lack of capability to produce ammunition even to support their gift weapons in Ukraine. The russians have state controlled munition factories and still can convert normal factories into a munition creating factory. Its an old soviet principle. Thats why the russians can make the same amount of ammunition in one month as the EU could in a year. Nice to have a paper weight if you dont have nothing to shoot out of those barrels.

Have u ever heard of "Skyranger/Skyshield" or "Mantis"? Those sytems are far better with their AHEAD (air-burst-ammunition).

Да гепард со своими 5 км отгребает от вертушек с ракетами дальностю 8 км

They are too heavy to maneuver in most terrain especially in winter times.. easy target for more faster tanks and especially hypersonic missiles.

Do you know about pantsir or tunguska?

How tf does the reload take 45 minutes? Sounds like absolute bs. No way a mobile combat system is essentially defenseless for 45 fucking minutes after shooting for 45 seconds.

Gepard has 320 rounds and fires bursts of 48 rounds (ukranians saz 6 rounds...but but) per target. So it could take down 8 targets before needing reloading. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flakpanzer_Gepard

@@sourisrsourisr1899 Nevertheless it takes three (!) people and max. 45 minutes to reload. If you don’t bring a Bataillon, this means one tank is defenseless AND three crew members have to work outside the tank (and therefore are unprotected). Bad idea…

Vodka 😂

Tunguska is the lada of AAA systems, Gepard the Mercedes.

​@@KBKriechbaumNo, the gepard is a dragon because it goes up in flame when a K52 says hello.

@@ComradNoFucksGivin. So far more K52 went up in flames, while 0 Gepards were destroyed, so, idk, man. russians are shit at military things i guess. :)

@@ComradNoFucksGivin. easy with the copium ivan