how it feels to play a cleric

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@Nazo-kage
@Nazo-kage 2 жыл бұрын
Jocat: “My job as a Cleric is not to heal the party, it’s to keep The party alive, and yes there’s a difference.”
@InquisitorThomas
@InquisitorThomas 2 жыл бұрын
The Death Cleric: “Eh… I’m fine just keeping them Fighting.”
@chris-the-human
@chris-the-human 2 жыл бұрын
oh I like that
@alx7927
@alx7927 2 жыл бұрын
if you kill every single one enemy, then you don't need to heal.
@Ohmargod
@Ohmargod 2 жыл бұрын
That's the Motto of my Grave Domain. "I'm not wasting any heals on a perfectly fine specimen?"
@fenixmeaney6170
@fenixmeaney6170 2 жыл бұрын
"my healing is preventative" Also, I'm currently playing a centaur death cleric so my only weakness is a ladder
@sriramramesh5318
@sriramramesh5318 2 жыл бұрын
"The best form of team support is dead enemies" - My war cleric
@lazerbeam134
@lazerbeam134 2 жыл бұрын
"You have Mass Heal prepared right?" "Nope. I cast Time Stop and 4 Flame Strikes."
@Chillzer95
@Chillzer95 2 жыл бұрын
"Agreed!" - My War Cleric, marching up with his squad of zombies
@Nyrufa
@Nyrufa 2 жыл бұрын
"Magical healing prevents the formation of battle scars, and I would never disgrace a fellow warrior by denying them such a trophy!" - My War Cleric.
@SwordKirby110
@SwordKirby110 2 жыл бұрын
@@lazerbeam134 That's not how that works, man. When the first Flame Strike hits anything, Time Stop ends.
@Three_Tiny_Robots
@Three_Tiny_Robots 2 жыл бұрын
Lol my Life Domain Cleric would agree. "Sure, I COULD waste my action healing you, OR I could cast Spirit Guardians and just destroy everything around us?" 🤔
@formoney5255
@formoney5255 2 жыл бұрын
That moment when the GM goes "uh....just...how much damage?" is fantastic. My mans over here just trying to keep the game going
@34khayes
@34khayes 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for the cleric to go on that whole rant only to miss and do nothing lol.
@Tichondrius-
@Tichondrius- 2 жыл бұрын
Player: I'm on half, and he's on 6 HP Cleric: I missed the part where it's my problem
@kanishkdevarakonda6653
@kanishkdevarakonda6653 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Thor’s here for absolutely no reason
@littlemisspipebomb4723
@littlemisspipebomb4723 2 жыл бұрын
oh it's Thor? I thought it was The Dude
@kryptonianguest1903
@kryptonianguest1903 2 жыл бұрын
Thor: I am not looking good. Me: Agree to disagree.
@sonan333
@sonan333 2 жыл бұрын
@@littlemisspipebomb4723 Yeah, it is clarified at 0:40. Though I would have agreed with you if not for that.
@godzblade
@godzblade 2 жыл бұрын
Can we all take a moment to appreciate how good his Thor costume is?
@unfoldingspace8
@unfoldingspace8 2 жыл бұрын
They say he’s their wizard, but he looks like he’s their weedzar(d)...
@timothyrohlman8968
@timothyrohlman8968 2 жыл бұрын
"I love you Jimmy and your healing magic" got me rolling
@marsfisch44
@marsfisch44 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap what the hell happened to yt constantly porn bots again
@laura_jones
@laura_jones 2 жыл бұрын
lolol SAME
@NStripleseven
@NStripleseven 2 жыл бұрын
You could make a full party with all of the roles filled, using only clerics. They’re so versatile.
@JustARandomTiger
@JustARandomTiger 2 жыл бұрын
"Seriously. With how versatile and independently strong you can build a cleric, you can make up an entire party full of purely priests, call it The A-Men and bust down Tiamat's door, demanding her launch money. And she would just build her own toilet to give herself swirlies so she wouldn't have to endure the kind of bullying you were about to give her."
@tba3625
@tba3625 2 жыл бұрын
The A-MEN
@m4thewrezidy611
@m4thewrezidy611 2 жыл бұрын
The A-MEN.
@joshshin6819
@joshshin6819 2 жыл бұрын
Can do the same with Artificer. Or Sorc. Or Ranger. Or Bard. Or Druid.
@temmiekristensen5674
@temmiekristensen5674 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustARandomTiger that sounds like a crap guide to D&D
@segevstormlord3713
@segevstormlord3713 2 жыл бұрын
Thok the orc cleric, in a 3.5 game, practically had this as his battle cry: "HEALING IS FOR AFTER COMBAT!"
@serana4775
@serana4775 2 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@TheKillaShow
@TheKillaShow 2 жыл бұрын
healing is for after death.
@segevstormlord3713
@segevstormlord3713 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheKillaShow In 5e? Very close to true; healing at 0 hp is the most effective strategy in most cases, since anything else risks the healing being insufficient to make a difference between the healed character acting or not acting next time his turn comes up.
@facundosilveira5535
@facundosilveira5535 Жыл бұрын
"za healing is not as rewarding as za hurting"
@Robert_Paprika
@Robert_Paprika 5 ай бұрын
Amen! A round of combat used to heal is a round not used to smite thy evil
@Missiletainn
@Missiletainn 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm on half, and he's on 6 HP" I don't see the issue, we all know the only HP that matters is 1
@gwencatz2483
@gwencatz2483 2 жыл бұрын
1 is NOT 0 :D
@GuyFawkes051
@GuyFawkes051 2 жыл бұрын
This is honestly the right attitude.
@snazzyfeathers
@snazzyfeathers 2 жыл бұрын
Death ward is the best spell in the game
@aydennso
@aydennso 2 жыл бұрын
You heal when they're down or the fight is over. That's how I see it.
@magenstaffarts
@magenstaffarts 2 жыл бұрын
Damn right, that's why if I can Guiding Bolt or Inflict Wounds I will. And if I feel like things are going to shit and I don't want to be the one hitting 0, and I've got a near enough comrade down low, I can dimension door our asses out of range. Fuck Yeah Trickery Domain.
@willmena96
@willmena96 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for the "my Guiding Bolt is a crit and I deal 300 damage, next attack is made with advantage"
@matthewletexier
@matthewletexier 2 жыл бұрын
Rogue cleric fighter multiclass. Guiding bolt, then action surge, then sneak attack. Bam
@Eshiay
@Eshiay 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@delroland
@delroland 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for the "how much damage did you do" "oh i missed on the attack roll" punchline 😜
@alizard7617
@alizard7617 2 жыл бұрын
Inflict wounds is perfectly balanced
@andrewattleson6834
@andrewattleson6834 2 жыл бұрын
@@delroland the amount of times I've wasted my spell slot on guiding bolt just to whiff it anyways, my fucking god
@lyebatenkaitosofgluttony2452
@lyebatenkaitosofgluttony2452 2 жыл бұрын
Our session today: Me, the light cleric: "Alright how do we play this?" The Paladin: "Cast fireball." The Ranger: "Yeah, cast fireball." The Fighter: "Fireball. Definitely fireball." Me: "are we sure about this? I may need the spell slot later..." The DM: "This room is a 20 foot radius circle and there are 12 enemies in it. Cast fireball." Me: "Fireball it is..."
@nahlies2382
@nahlies2382 2 жыл бұрын
If you can hit 12 enemies with a fireball and don't want to, stop playing the game
@Valsorayu
@Valsorayu 2 жыл бұрын
@@nahlies2382 Gatecringing
@nahlies2382
@nahlies2382 2 жыл бұрын
@@Valsorayu it's called a joke. Nobody's ever gonna quit over a message like that
@Valsorayu
@Valsorayu 2 жыл бұрын
@@nahlies2382 I know. That is why I said gatecringing, it was a joke in response.
@Canna.ery3
@Canna.ery3 2 жыл бұрын
Fireball
@feyefall4855
@feyefall4855 2 жыл бұрын
Had a paladin of Ilmater in one of my groups that only ever did the minimum to keep party members alive, because he believed the suffering would eventually teach them wisdom. He was greatly overestimating their capacity to learn, but it was neat philosophy.
@averageenjoyer2249
@averageenjoyer2249 6 ай бұрын
I think I will steal that for my Ilmater follower.
@byronray3677
@byronray3677 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s take a moment to appreciate the 1st level spell guiding bolt. 4d6 radiant damage at first level is an amazing ability.
@magnificoabsol
@magnificoabsol 2 жыл бұрын
and gives advantage to the next atack roll to that creature, guiding bolt is great!
@oliverwilhelm6171
@oliverwilhelm6171 2 жыл бұрын
Plus giving advantage on the next attack roll against that target. Which is an extra tasty treat for a party member. My Stars Druid makes great use of it.
@bensonprice4027
@bensonprice4027 2 жыл бұрын
Provided that you hit. Not guaranteed. Feels bad for losing the spell slot at low levels.
@DoctorSoulll
@DoctorSoulll 2 жыл бұрын
That and Inflict Wounds for 3d10 necrotic. I had a 8th level paladin who managed to get downed in one hit after a cultist crit with the spell at 2nd lvl. most of the damage rolls were 8s.
@magenstaffarts
@magenstaffarts 2 жыл бұрын
And let us also appreciate that one of the best damage-dealing spells in the game is also 1st level. Inflict Wounds, aw yis.
@shanemacmillan5732
@shanemacmillan5732 2 жыл бұрын
"I'll heal you when you're you being alive is more effective than me being alive." -War clerics
@jokhard8137
@jokhard8137 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Jimmy did the right thing. Him playing a Life Cleric allows Gallandan to keep doing his own thing
@Sarah12471
@Sarah12471 Жыл бұрын
Mhm it's a diplomatic solution that allows everyone to enjoy the game
@Grabnok
@Grabnok Жыл бұрын
And he probably did for his sake anyway. They needed a dedicated healer and he seemed more than enthusiastic about it.
@chosenuwu
@chosenuwu Жыл бұрын
thats great :3
@thatoneguy1350
@thatoneguy1350 Жыл бұрын
ok, but the party didn't need a healer, especially not a healer cleric as it undermines what Gallandan was trying to say. It allows the others to keep pigeon-holing clerics. It makes them right. He could have made a druid healer and been just as effective, but by doing this he undermines Gallandan.
@skell6134
@skell6134 Жыл бұрын
@@thatoneguy1350 Dude thought that healer cleirc would work better and you cant really judge him for his choice here,if he thinks cleric works best,you cant say no
@vulpinitemplar5036
@vulpinitemplar5036 2 жыл бұрын
They're gonna love it when they find out Jimmy only has healing spells because has died once and refuses to let it occur again.
@Terrkas0
@Terrkas0 Жыл бұрын
Fighter: Dude I am at 5 hp, help me! Jimmy: I cast Heal! Fighter: Yes! Jimmy: On MYSELF! Fighter: What? Why? you only took 2 hits! It was about 20 damage. Jimmy: Look, I saw what that undead creature did to you, I will not get downed by that!
@mitchellenderson7194
@mitchellenderson7194 2 жыл бұрын
I love how most clerics are like “I can heal my allies so they don’t die”, and then there’s forge and war domain coming to take the Holy Land.
@lo-fi-fi9484
@lo-fi-fi9484 2 жыл бұрын
Tempest too
@daleanddale
@daleanddale 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Tempest Cleric with their "AOE nukes and you hit me? take 2d8 damage plz" Tempest Clerics are freaking nuts when it comes to damage output way higher than anyone else.
@SybilantSquid
@SybilantSquid 2 жыл бұрын
Light Domain clerics here to commit war crimes in the name of God. Burn in holy fire!
@Marine_Abithel
@Marine_Abithel 2 жыл бұрын
Forge domain is healing through reducing all incoming damage to 0 with their giant wall of AC.
@vanguardbreaker8826
@vanguardbreaker8826 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Grave Clerics actively letting die to revive you more efficiently. Also add Tempest to that list of crusaders.
@koboldprime2257
@koboldprime2257 2 жыл бұрын
I refuse to be a heal bot LightDomain: "In Pelor's name! _FIREBALL!! FIREBALL!! JUST FIREBALL!! ONLY FIREBALL!!_ "
@The_Number1Candyman
@The_Number1Candyman 2 жыл бұрын
This is the way
@BigDickWizard6969
@BigDickWizard6969 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@alheimianservant1499
@alheimianservant1499 2 жыл бұрын
......Yes
@MurasakiTsukimaru
@MurasakiTsukimaru 2 жыл бұрын
"Clerics are healers!" My Death Cleric: (hits a dude for 12 bludgeoning damage plus 20 necrotic damage, rotting his body to soup with a single attack) "We what? Since when?"
@TexMeta
@TexMeta 2 жыл бұрын
The guy had the curse of life, so you healed him with death.
@connormcgehee9349
@connormcgehee9349 Жыл бұрын
The enemy casts fly
@MurasakiTsukimaru
@MurasakiTsukimaru Жыл бұрын
@@connormcgehee9349 You sound fun at parties
@vanillaicecream2385
@vanillaicecream2385 Жыл бұрын
My grave cleric: (waltzes in pointing a hand at the bbeg, smacks them in the face with 8d8+5 radiant with vulnerability THEN raises the entire party up from 0hp to nearly half )
@Pgoodso
@Pgoodso Жыл бұрын
​@@connormcgehee9349 The enemy casts fly next to the death cleric and attempts to move away. It takes 12 bludgeoning damage plus 20 necrotic damage, either turning into soup, or if it survives, needing to make a DC16 con save to maintain concentration. Even if it the reaction attack misses, or it makes the save, and it indeed flies 60 ft away? On the cleric's turn, it casts Spiritual Weapon next to the enemy, and does 12 force damage plus 20 necrotic damage, because the spiritual weapon's attack is, in fact, a melee attack you can hit a creature with, which also counts for your channel divinity, which, if you're doing 20 necrotic damage, you definitely have the levels to have a 2nd charge of. So either the enemy turns to soup, or makes another DC16 con save, at which point it falls if it fails, likely finishing the soup. Anyone who laughs at a death cleric because it thinks "flying=no melee=you lose" dies laughing. Not least because, even ignoring the channel divinity, a death cleric is still at the end of the day a cleric, and a guiding bolt or flame strike is just as good from them as it is from a life cleric. And any flier snarking "you can't melee me" to someone who is super best friends with GOD needs to remember where that dude lives: it ain't the ground, lol.
@nicholasfotou2980
@nicholasfotou2980 2 жыл бұрын
I had an neutral evil light cleric reflavoured as dark. His healing manifested as brambles bursting from the wounds and knitting the flesh closed in the most painful way possible.
@TheGaboom
@TheGaboom 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to appreciate Jimmy Dude knew the other players wanted a healer, but the current cleric didn't want to be a healer; so when he got a chance at a new character he took on the role, and was excited to help That's a good table to be at.
@TrueLimeyhoney
@TrueLimeyhoney 2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy=Taliesin
@ragnazero1971
@ragnazero1971 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrueLimeyhoney I hate how accurate this is.
@StarClan4evr
@StarClan4evr 2 жыл бұрын
"The current cleric" still feels like it stigmatises it. Some clerics, given how many subclasses aren't specced for healing, aren't gonna be healers. They didn't "not want to" be a healer, they *weren't* a healer. Pointing out that there's a "current cleric" still just feels like you're saying they dropped out of their duty, like they're supposed to be healing and they weren't. Just say the party didn't have a healer. Roleplay-wise, they weren't one, and were never going to be. And if we're ignoring character stories and roleplay, then why play a *roleplaying* game at all?
@ragnazero1971
@ragnazero1971 2 жыл бұрын
@@StarClan4evr agreed! Like if I wanna play a war cleric then I want to be a mainline fighter cutting foes down with spells and my sword. Not sit in the back throwing out sacred flames and bashing things with spiritual weapon. I'm in the front with spirit guardians destroying my enemies.
@theta682pl
@theta682pl 2 жыл бұрын
@@StarClan4evr Honestly, yeah. Especially since Druids are actually better healers than clerics in 5e. Clerics and Druids both have access to healing word, which is the best combat healing spell. But Druids also get Goodberry, Aura of Vitality and Healing Spirit. While clerics have the 2 best damage spells in the game (spirit guardians and guiding bolt).
@Dumbass717
@Dumbass717 2 жыл бұрын
As a forever DM, can't confirm.
@cameronyarrow3218
@cameronyarrow3218 2 жыл бұрын
As Pack Tactics said in their video, the best in combat healing spell is to polymorph them into a giant ape.
@calebleach7988
@calebleach7988 2 жыл бұрын
I mean really, with the amount of subclasses the cleric has, it is *way* more than just a healer. You could have an entire party of clerics and they could all be unique providing useful roles to the party.
@kylepessell1350
@kylepessell1350 2 жыл бұрын
If you had to pick a single class to make an entire adventuring party out of then Cleric would probably be tied with Bard as the best choice.
@JustARandomTiger
@JustARandomTiger 2 жыл бұрын
"Seriously. With how versatile and independently strong you can build a cleric, you can make up an entire party full of purely priests, call it The A-Men and bust down Tiamat's door, demanding her launch money. And she would just build her own toilet to give herself swirlies so she wouldn't have to endure the kind of bullying you were about to give her."
@calebleach7988
@calebleach7988 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustARandomTiger *I get that reference*
@JustARandomTiger
@JustARandomTiger 2 жыл бұрын
@@calebleach7988 Very good.
@solank7620
@solank7620 2 жыл бұрын
@@calebleach7988 I did not. What's the reference?
@weirdwizard27
@weirdwizard27 2 жыл бұрын
In combat healing is rarely good anyway, other than spells like "Heal." Look at the dice on a healing spell compared to monster damage output. With a few exceptions, best time to heal is when a party member gets knocked down. Prevention is better than cure, killing monsters or using control spells to prevent them from attacking will prevent waaaaay more damage than you can usually heal with the same spell slots.
@snazzyfeathers
@snazzyfeathers 2 жыл бұрын
They hated him for he spoke the truth
@samuelcooper3664
@samuelcooper3664 2 жыл бұрын
Unless you're a life cleric or casting something big like heal, healing spells are for resetting death saves and hopefully giving a player a turn to do something before they get downed again.
@trentlewis1473
@trentlewis1473 2 жыл бұрын
This is why Grave Domain is OP imo, cancel crit damage, plus assume max roll when healing downed target.
@PabloHedning
@PabloHedning 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention any summoning spell will put more HP on the field than most healing spells ever will be able to do ^^;
@spencervance8484
@spencervance8484 2 жыл бұрын
Twilight cleric
@dingocrazy2135
@dingocrazy2135 2 жыл бұрын
the clerics are one of the most cool, flavor and mechanical classes of the entire game, respect them.
@user-xf3bp7kr7w
@user-xf3bp7kr7w 2 жыл бұрын
They are a bit op.. Which kinda sad a little.
@dingocrazy2135
@dingocrazy2135 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-xf3bp7kr7w yeah, i don´t know about that, is a class very versatile that can fit any role really. For me at least, a player and a DM, the clerics are a little like the druid. The channel divinity is apropiate and the divine intervencion wich is broken really has a low porcentage to function.
@kristophmartinez3762
@kristophmartinez3762 2 жыл бұрын
If only warlock wasn't complete garbage... Also, cleric damage spells are WAY too strong
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 2 жыл бұрын
Less variety than other classes though, by the nature of their power. You're forced to devote yourself to a deity and you're just a normal person if you take a day off. Even the paladin is free to be their own person, because their power stems from their personality and the oath they swore to effectively stay the same person they've always been. Everyone else is allowed individuality, and the cleric just isn't. Your god will dictate your character. It's one-dimensional... shallow. Boring.
@dingocrazy2135
@dingocrazy2135 2 жыл бұрын
@@dontmisunderstand6041 i think that depends more of your dm, a cleric can have a understanding and perception very different from other people of the church. A cleric don't have to want or accept his powers neccesarily. You can have a cleric that have a similar relationship with his god that the quimic of the warlock and his patron.
@letopizdetz
@letopizdetz 2 жыл бұрын
You can't out heal damage in D&D, so healing is more 'light revival' taking people from 0 to 4-7 HP
@shadowlord1418
@shadowlord1418 2 жыл бұрын
My life cleric would disagree
@sillyking1991
@sillyking1991 Жыл бұрын
i mean...it doesn't matter if you can outheal damage. it'd still function as damage reduction, which has value. what *can* make mid combat inefficient is that 1. you don't always know who is going to take damage. so if you heal someone, and they don't take damage the rest of that combat, then you wasted that action. 2. compared to other options, the amount of damage reduction caused by the lower level healing spells is low. like..i could heal someone for 12 points, or i could paralyze an enemy, thus removing all of their damage output for at least a round.
@fatbean2000
@fatbean2000 Жыл бұрын
Leto agree my life cleric has a healing staff. Plus regeneration is broken on a life cleric.
@FatedHandJonathon
@FatedHandJonathon Жыл бұрын
As other commenters have said, Life Cleric outpaces most level-appropriate damage if they’re tactical about it. They’re the only ones in the game, though; 5e doesn’t have “healers”, it has “resuscitators”.
@MultiKbarry
@MultiKbarry 9 ай бұрын
The best way to heal is to never need heal in the first place. This method is also known as ending enemies fast and efficiently.
@Glimare
@Glimare 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't this the reaction of Laura when Talisen made a cleric and Sam just kept saying it was great to finally have a healer?
@westernhorserider3827
@westernhorserider3827 2 жыл бұрын
YES lmao
@aaronjjacques
@aaronjjacques 2 жыл бұрын
Better yet when she first healed he acted surprised about her new magical ability
@aaronjjacques
@aaronjjacques 2 жыл бұрын
Or when she was bragging to her momma about being a to heal and sam repeated it back
@aaronjjacques
@aaronjjacques 2 жыл бұрын
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@PippityPup
@PippityPup 2 жыл бұрын
I think one of the best, worst healers I ever made was a variant human celestial warlock with the Healer feat. I've *never* seen mundane healing work that well in 5e before or since
@Maria.Mirabella
@Maria.Mirabella 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds amazing XD
@translucentsquirrelofdarkn7138
@translucentsquirrelofdarkn7138 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly? I accidentally created a good healer in a paladin I play. level 5, aasimar healing hands plus paladin lay on hands mean i have 30hp of guaranteed healing a day. Combine with the fact I can cast cure wounds, and blessed warrior let me take the Spare the Dying cantrip, and I accidentally made a healer.
@nickzhaosun
@nickzhaosun 2 жыл бұрын
My best healer was Thorick the Golaith. Grave domain Cleric. On 3 separate occasions I healed people that were within 5 HPs of unconsciousness. So my boy punched them out and then healed them.(with Grave domain you heal for max amount automatically if the player is nearly dead)
@norandomnumbers
@norandomnumbers 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickzhaosun I think you mean Grave, not Death.
@daleanddale
@daleanddale 2 жыл бұрын
Healer feat is amazing. No one takes it because people want cooler abilities.
@fearofowl5973
@fearofowl5973 2 жыл бұрын
“One is speced for healing” *crying from Grave Domain*
@TheRedAzuki
@TheRedAzuki 2 жыл бұрын
Grave cleric is basically dnd creators telling you how to play a cleric
@constrainedanacronysm1370
@constrainedanacronysm1370 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRedAzuki Grave Domain isn't specced for Healing, it is specced for party recovery... and that's an important distinction. From the free revival spells to gentle repose to the fact your heals heal for max on people already OUT of the fight the Domain is designed to undo the bad situation your party has gotten into. You don't heal as a Grave Domain Cleric, you bring your party members back from the very edge of oblivion after they have been taken there by your enemies. In summary Grave Clerics don't heal that often instead you do damage much like the cleric example in the video and then usually only sink their spells into healing someone when they need to get back in the fight.
@TheRedAzuki
@TheRedAzuki 2 жыл бұрын
@@constrainedanacronysm1370 yes exactly my point?
@constrainedanacronysm1370
@constrainedanacronysm1370 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRedAzuki Meant to reply to the other guy, but to address your point. I hard disagree. You are in no way discouraged from playing in alternates ways with Grave Cleric until a party member is at 0. Up until that point, which usually doesn't happen until near the end of a fight, you can do whatever you want. I've played a Grave Cleric and pretty much every single one of my combats have gone differently because my party isn't full of suicidal idiots so I'm not forced into healing one of them from the brink until things are almost over. I can guiding bolt, top people off with healing, spirit guardians, command, get in melee and many other things without worrying about wizards forcing me to play any constrained way. Furthermore, even in the case of the 0 hp party member, are you really being forced to do something like getting a party member up when you'd want to do that usually? Same goes for all the spells and abilities you get there are used out of combat... like you get Gentle Repose and the Revive spells... but are you really telling you wouldn't take and use those normally? And even if you want to argue that where does that leave the other domains with their required spells? The only thing I can reasonably agree with you on is maybe the canceling a crit as a reaction ability... because your likely to always use your reaction on that. That said you very rarely get to use that ability so there is plenty of variation you can add if you have another reaction based ability. I just don't see how you are being forced to play anyway. As long as you are creative roleplay-wise or mechanically you can do as much as you want with the Domain as any others.
@pringlesjoe
@pringlesjoe 2 жыл бұрын
@@constrainedanacronysm1370 another grave cleric here^^ yes, i do it like that, i tell the other party members i am her so you dont die forever not to heal xD
@markfrantz4612
@markfrantz4612 2 жыл бұрын
There are 3 reasons in my mind I would heal in combat. 1. Someone is at 0. 2. You can heal someone above the amount of damage it would take to down them in a round on average AND that's the best thing there is TO do. 3. You are a stars cleric and haven't used your subclass feature yet.
@JackgarPrime
@JackgarPrime Жыл бұрын
That particular subclass feature is JUICY.
@FatedHandJonathon
@FatedHandJonathon Жыл бұрын
What’s a Stars Cleric?
@markfrantz4612
@markfrantz4612 Жыл бұрын
@@FatedHandJonathon Look it up
@FatedHandJonathon
@FatedHandJonathon Жыл бұрын
@@markfrantz4612 I did. Unless you’re talking about homebrew, it doesn’t exist.
@markfrantz4612
@markfrantz4612 Жыл бұрын
@@FatedHandJonathon Twilight Cleric
@varelsemind5741
@varelsemind5741 2 жыл бұрын
In one of my tables, I play a Circle of the Stars druid with some Life Domain cleric levels (he's a druid who received solace from Ilmater and chose to follow his path) - the combination of the Chalice constellation + LD traits and spells almost feel better at healing than a pure LD cleric. In the other table, I play a War Domain cleric of Loviatar with some Bloodhunter levels (essentially, I wanted to recreate the Pain Domain in 5e), and she's still awesome at healing - but coming from Loviatar, her healing spells are painful, like a taser shock or a adrenaline shot to the heart. And yes, they both live in my head and hate each other passionately.
@jynxezoir370
@jynxezoir370 2 жыл бұрын
Out of all my characters I've made... my clerics have consistently been the highest damagers and my fighters the best healers
@thecandyman7807
@thecandyman7807 2 жыл бұрын
Personal healing or party healing?
@Tesoro1996
@Tesoro1996 2 жыл бұрын
My life cleric with a Healer feat was literally an ambulance. I joined friend's campaign at 13th level and basically pulled them through a dungeon and bossfights. xD DM told me I made around 250 points of healing in two rounds.
@zealousdoggo
@zealousdoggo 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tesoro1996 ok well now I want to play a cleric who is literally a sentient wagon full of health potions and also radiant missiles just for "self-defense"
@jynxezoir370
@jynxezoir370 2 жыл бұрын
@@thecandyman7807 party healing, banneret fighter allows you to affect allies with second wind, and indomitable. I'd heal everything, action surge, and rush potions around to allies
@xoire9754
@xoire9754 2 жыл бұрын
@@jynxezoir370 That can't possibly be a better healer than a cleric, divine soul sorcerer, or druid though. Don't get me wrong, Clerics are excellent damage dealers, but fighters are certainly not good healers, especially if you have to rely on healing potions and movement. It just has such low potential for healing.
@BigDickWizard6969
@BigDickWizard6969 2 жыл бұрын
Here's an idea that will definitely not make your table hate you: if you're a cleric, charge your party 1 gp for every 1 hp of healing. Increase the price by 10x for each spell slot level. :^)
@awolr
@awolr 2 жыл бұрын
The richest party member turns out to be one of the supposedly least attracted to wealth, hmmmmm, sounds like a certain Catholic church in medieval times
@vlim5601
@vlim5601 2 жыл бұрын
That's actually how I play my high charisma CN half-orc cleric, either taxing the party or swiping loot before they see it. Father Jawn is a bastard but everybody loves him.
@Shaderox
@Shaderox 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought the wizard would offer good advice, but this is a excellent way to afford all those diamonds that will be needed.(ofc it's just to have them on hand, materials expended gets added with interest to the cost) stonks.
@5-Volt
@5-Volt 2 жыл бұрын
You could even justify it by worshiping a god of commerce like Waukeen. 😂
@ericfelipe4198
@ericfelipe4198 2 жыл бұрын
I read a manga where a little moon fairy was the healer of the group. She would always charge for the healing after the combat, even from her friends, but not because she was greedy. Her race was banned from the moon by the moon goddess, and said goddess now charges them gold to maintain their connection to the moon, if they don't pay they disappear.
@ZidaneKayos
@ZidaneKayos 2 жыл бұрын
I felt this. Cleric is my favourite class, and the domains allow for surprising versatility. But every time my party gets into a bad spot there's always this little voice in the back of my head that says "Why didn't you prepare more healing? You're the Cleric" regardless of the fact that I'm currently playing a Tempest Cleric that has been built to be the party's high AC/HP wall with added spell novas.
@homelessperson5455
@homelessperson5455 2 жыл бұрын
"Oh? No healer in this party? Sure, this is where you can get potions."
@Athkore
@Athkore 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the most fun I've had in D&D is playing a Cleric but building him as a tank and playing him like a paladin. All I'll say is this: 20AC(Heavy Armour+Shield), Cast Spirit Guardians, and use Dodge action every turn after. I am become DEATH WALL!
@thomasrinear8629
@thomasrinear8629 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about spiritual weapon to weaponize that bonus action!
@Athkore
@Athkore 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasrinear8629 Oh I'm well aware. Maximum cheese!
@algore8305
@algore8305 2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy really the man to support his teammates like that. Too bad he’ll roll a nat 1 on the dex save for thors lighting bolt on the bbeg
@mavvic3892
@mavvic3892 2 жыл бұрын
That's one thing I love Grave Cleric for. You don't NEED to focus on direct healing, but you CAN do it if you feel it best serves the moment. Otherwise, your extra features to make you EXTREAMLY effective when your party is low on health, being able to quickly stabilize (or even pop up) downed allies, not to mention stopping an otherwise lethal crit, just makes you feel powerful AND useful. You don't have to be a "heal bot" if you don't want to. Also, very informative. I didn't realize Barbarian had ANY way to heal themselves. I really thought they were the only class that couldn't do that, and thus was expecting a potential subclass to come out to facilitate that.
@eintorpid9101
@eintorpid9101 2 жыл бұрын
They technically don't, the video uses specific subclasses to justify the cleric not healing, but in doing so also presents just how few ways of healing there is in the game outside of casters like bards, druids, and clerics.
@nahlies2382
@nahlies2382 2 жыл бұрын
@@eintorpid9101 Plus things like second wind are a 1 use option, and asking a wizard to use vampiric touch, go right into fricken melee without being a bladesinger, is just kinda ridiculous
@zer0stars
@zer0stars 2 жыл бұрын
@@nahlies2382 With Life Transference too, before Wither and Bloom, yeah it was the only healing option for Wizards but you have to damage yourself to heal your allies.
@XionDarkblood13
@XionDarkblood13 Жыл бұрын
So you are just a really good necromancer and your party are your undead thralls. They fall down you get them up again. Sounds like a necromancer to me. "I didn't lose my healers license for nothing!"
@mouthwide0pen
@mouthwide0pen 2 ай бұрын
​@@eintorpid9101The statement was "Depending on subclass, any class has access to a self heal", as to infer "Why are you getting mad at me for not building my character to heal you, when none of you built your characters to heal yourselves either?" I mean come the fuck on, unless you're specifically opting towards a subclass that wants to heal, or heals passively off of other things like Beastbarian, healing in D&D sucks. What, you want me to cast Healing Word when you're on 6 hp? You want 1d4 more hp, buddy? If we're lucky, your health might even get to double digits!
@xdecatron2985
@xdecatron2985 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, I was prepping a cleric for CoS earlier this year and was trying to figure out how to balance healing spells with more aggressive options when another player created a Divine Soul with a 1 level dip into Life Cleric. Thanks, man. Made my job MUCH easier!
@delroland
@delroland 2 жыл бұрын
Single target healing in combat is a rookie move anyway unless an ally is at 0 hit points: monsters will always have more damage output than healers have healing output.
@joemitchell5869
@joemitchell5869 2 жыл бұрын
this is usually true, but for the campaigns where the DM makes it a house rule that you get a level of exhaustion if you are healed while making death saving throws, then it is best to heal your teammates before they drop. The thing that I do not get about this rule is that it more so punishes melee focused characters, and they usually also make more homebrew rules in favor of melee characters since they are of the opinion that melee characters get the short end of the stick in DnD 5e.
@AnaseSkyrider
@AnaseSkyrider 2 жыл бұрын
@@joemitchell5869 I would rule that a healer's kit (medic kit? Forget the name) or the Spare the Dying cantrip would prevent the level of exhaustion if used before a heal takes place, just to be forgiving but require some resources from your build and action economy. I've never understood why a melee attack gives you two failed saves while ranged gives one fail. I'd houserule that to 1 failed save for both.
@lauruva4314
@lauruva4314 2 жыл бұрын
​@@joemitchell5869 IMO this house rule is a big red flag for me, unless it's a gritty realism campaign. 5e healing simply is not built for this classic "mmo" style of healing.
@Smitty-hr2mg
@Smitty-hr2mg 2 жыл бұрын
cast spiritual weapon at a higher level, and healing spirit. Problem solved. Your cleric can then go take a nap for a minute, or whatever else they want.
@lauruva4314
@lauruva4314 2 жыл бұрын
@@Smitty-hr2mg My guy, I hate to break it to you but those are both Bonus Action spells and they both rely on subsequent Bonus Actions to work properly. Can't have both.
@AuraXars
@AuraXars 2 жыл бұрын
Missed opportunity to have the guiding bolt crit and one-shot the boss into mic drop moment
@SharkyShocker
@SharkyShocker 2 жыл бұрын
I love breaking stereotypes in D&D. My favorite honestly is the life cleric, but they *choose* who they heal. Suddenly the Rogue feels more careful about disagreeing with the Cleric out of battle when they almost die because the Cleric decides to cast Sacred Flame instead of Healing Word.
@mekagengar2580
@mekagengar2580 2 жыл бұрын
Did you mean Cure Wounds? The reason people love Healing Word is because they can heal and attack in the same turn using a weapon or a cantrip.
@SharkyShocker
@SharkyShocker 2 жыл бұрын
@@mekagengar2580 Tbh, I just forgot that Healing Word was a bonus action.
@TimaeusEXE
@TimaeusEXE 2 жыл бұрын
I need to make a Trickster Cleric that when asked to heal just tells jokes and says that laughter is the best medicine.
@dantesomers9357
@dantesomers9357 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, so true. I main Druid in games but this is how my friends basically do it. I also dm
@michielgombert3546
@michielgombert3546 2 жыл бұрын
best healer build i have seen is 1 lvl of life domain cleric rest totem druid
@Kenmis
@Kenmis 2 жыл бұрын
"fine, I'll drop a 5th level Cure Wounds on Thor" "Thor heals 20 HP, less than the damage he just took for 1 round. That really felt like an excellent use of a 5th level spell. I love healing in 5e *SO MUCH*."
@duckshallrule6937
@duckshallrule6937 2 жыл бұрын
Its good game design. Combat should have progress, where all the players slowly become closer and closer to death. If a healer can just reset that, it slows combat down and makes the whole thing a slog.
@stelpher
@stelpher 2 жыл бұрын
Pathfinder's Channel Positive Energy go brrrrrr.
@Shaderox
@Shaderox 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the choice of cure wounds to "Heal Thor for 5d8+4" or inflict wounds "Hit the thing attacking Thor for 7d10+4". Unless it's one of those situations where one has a subclass to always heal or get healed for the maximum amount without rolling, healing is usually a very weak use of ones turn.
@Merilirem
@Merilirem 2 жыл бұрын
@@duckshallrule6937 Healing in fiction is always at its best out of combat. That includes when someone is already down since they are pretty much done fighting until healed. Healing magic that just fully restores people should always be insanely special.
@snazzyfeathers
@snazzyfeathers 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shaderox I'd like to see a busted Cleric subclass that allows them to target allies with damage dealing spells and heal them instead
@daleanddale
@daleanddale 2 жыл бұрын
Healing is only action economy efficient when it's bring someone from 0 to not 0. Which makes healing word the best for this because it allows you to buy a whole turn for 1 Bonus action. Depending on where you are in initiative cloaking someone in a sanctuary can save a lot more HP in a round then using a healing spell :). Plus you can then use your action to Attack, cast a cantrip, or dodge.
@slipknot95maggot
@slipknot95maggot 2 жыл бұрын
"We shouldn't pigeonhole classes into one function" "But we need healing" "Divine Soul lets you prepare Cleric spells" They say, themselves implicitly conflating "Cleric spells" with healing
@AnaseSkyrider
@AnaseSkyrider 2 жыл бұрын
That would also be true if there was a subclass that 'lets you prepare druid spells', since druids also have healing spells.
@adamloga3788
@adamloga3788 2 жыл бұрын
@@AnaseSkyrider Pretty sure that's a Nature Cleric
@AnaseSkyrider
@AnaseSkyrider 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamloga3788 A few spells from their spell list -- on a class already stereotyped for healing -- isn't quite what I'm referring to. I meant more like the druid-equivalent of the Divine Soul.
@adamloga3788
@adamloga3788 2 жыл бұрын
@@AnaseSkyrider Fair enough
@fizzlepop5318
@fizzlepop5318 2 жыл бұрын
I was absolutely expecting after the monologue about being stereotypes, for Jimmy to come back as "The Wizard" to cast fireball.
@weary7969
@weary7969 2 жыл бұрын
I feel this, I have an amazing War Cleric with the Great Weapon Master feat. I can deal amazing damage and have saved my party multiple times. But because I focus on damage and not healing, they try to force me to prepare Healing spells. They want me to be a backline healer when I just want to stab some beasts.
@dr.blackwing1358
@dr.blackwing1358 2 жыл бұрын
I know and get what you mean. But our party's cleric is usually always the first one to go down in a fight and being one of the only people with cure wounds (Halfing Ranger) I can't deal damage at half the rate I wish I could due to having to spend a spell slot on healing, I can't even prepare spells I want to choose, I have 3 I get to use in a day. So it's just kind of a kick in the teeth to watch the war cleric charge in, use sacred flame multiple times, and then just go immediately into death saves due to playing like a barbarian. How I'm playing my Ranger now, is probably the closest I'll get to feel like an actual healer cleric.
@erikasuttle409
@erikasuttle409 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.blackwing1358 i feel bad for you my Tiefling ranger was also our party's healer for a while i get the struggle i love playing cleric's too but as long as you are playiing a class smart doesn't matter what class they can be built anyway to make cool characters your party cleric sounds like they aren't playing with the team which i know hurts the party
@xdonthave1xx
@xdonthave1xx 2 жыл бұрын
Funny mentioning “that’s kinda like a paladin”, I played a war domain cleric once and we were in a town visiting someone that didn’t like clerics. I asked if with my armor if I could pass myself as a paladin. Nothing really came from the encounter.
@xoxieozapor9398
@xoxieozapor9398 Жыл бұрын
Been watching quietly for a while and this video made me laugh so hard as I am my group’s resident cleric and this conversation happens every week. Extremely well done I love the way you deliver the videos and I am happy to continue watching
@5-Volt
@5-Volt 2 жыл бұрын
The opposite is frustrating too. Cleric is my favorite class and one of my friends doesn't like them because he thinks all they do is heal and cast buff spells like bless. I'm going to play a light cleric next campaign to show him otherwise!
@ucalove10
@ucalove10 2 жыл бұрын
Fuck yeah!
@The_Number1Candyman
@The_Number1Candyman 2 жыл бұрын
Currently playing a light cleric, it's very fun
@docinho3206
@docinho3206 2 жыл бұрын
My party's life cleric rarely heals, because many classes have some basic healing spells. Last session he used Thaumaturgy to 1. confuse and intimidate enemies and 2. cause tremors and distract the townspeople while the bard and the rougue abducted a nobleman and 3. to turn a forest fire blue and weakening it.
@Smitty-hr2mg
@Smitty-hr2mg 2 жыл бұрын
How about this, play a life cleric/druid. The class synergy and massive spell list is awesome. Your heals are amazing, and your combat capabilities don't suffer either.
@aetherius6221
@aetherius6221 2 жыл бұрын
@@Smitty-hr2mg yeah 1 level in life cleric makes your healing broken
@TheClericCorner
@TheClericCorner 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree, SO much more roleplay potential with them than just healing. Clerics are the BEST!! But I'm bias 😂
@squizzlor
@squizzlor 2 жыл бұрын
My fist character was a cleric of nature. That was more a demonic prince of corruption. He didn’t heel, he specialized in charisma and falsehoods. He utalized the command spell, and charisma checks for most confrentstions, and dipareged getting his own hands dirty. Was good fun, but yes every one complained about the lack of healing.... he covered it up, asking if the party were sick and wounded beasts, As he was a “cleric of nature”.
@TheClericCorner
@TheClericCorner 2 жыл бұрын
@@squizzlor honestly freaking love that!
@RAGEINGChiken
@RAGEINGChiken 2 жыл бұрын
The dm just trying to get the damage in the middle of this argument is perfect. So relatable!
@kazikmajster5650
@kazikmajster5650 2 жыл бұрын
*I love the fact that literally Thor just is there, and nobody's questioning!*
@EverlastingEclipse
@EverlastingEclipse 2 жыл бұрын
This is a mood, and it applies to more than just cleric. Druids get slapped for this too
@InLiquidColor
@InLiquidColor 2 жыл бұрын
My *moon* druid got cornered into being the party's healer :'( So I'm switching to a cleric. I love playing clerics, but i just wanted my one druid, man. Is that so much to ask for? Le sigh.
@jmc2830
@jmc2830 2 жыл бұрын
i think any class that is that multifaceted is always going to be misunderstood. until someone actually roles up a cleric, druid, even a sorcerer or warlock and see the options for themselves.. other players will always assume clerics are just like the one note class they picked.
@LupineShadowOmega
@LupineShadowOmega 2 жыл бұрын
@@InLiquidColor If you are a moon druid then the party should know you aren't healing. You're turning into a bear. Being a bear is what you do. Bears don't cast spells natively. lol
@InLiquidColor
@InLiquidColor 2 жыл бұрын
@@LupineShadowOmega Yes. That would be the logical conclusion lol.
@lucasleiva8215
@lucasleiva8215 2 жыл бұрын
@@InLiquidColor fuck them bro, transform into a T-Rex and have a kaiju fight with Tarasque.
@wonder6860
@wonder6860 2 жыл бұрын
I felt this spiritually… hurt my soul.
@AnonYmous-bb7tl
@AnonYmous-bb7tl 2 жыл бұрын
"I just don't think we should stereotype all of the classes into single abilities that they get. It can really dirty the image of a character." Me, a Barbarian: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@jtridley1234
@jtridley1234 2 жыл бұрын
Just recently found your channel and i love it. Been binge watching your channel. Thanks for the great content.
@fallen_vague28
@fallen_vague28 2 жыл бұрын
Cleric is the perfect class for a villain arc. They become aware that they play (a) god essentially. The power could go to their head if you wanted it to
@7kevin71000
@7kevin71000 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine having to actually heal because your teammates take damage *laughs in twilight cleric*
@allenyang5697
@allenyang5697 2 жыл бұрын
Behold the sphere of mood lighting!
@5-Volt
@5-Volt 2 жыл бұрын
Never have to heal if your party never goes through their temp HP. 🤷‍♀️
@snazzyfeathers
@snazzyfeathers 2 жыл бұрын
I've been playing an artificer artillerist and one of their turret abilities just give temp hp. Far better at preventing death than the cleric did at the time
@TheChocoXCheese
@TheChocoXCheese 2 жыл бұрын
One of the campaigns I was in had dropped from 6 to three players because of scheduling conflicts, and my Twilight Cleric basically carried us through combat that was designed for a much larger party. That shit would have been busted if we weren't always so behind in the action economy.
@johnh9367
@johnh9367 2 жыл бұрын
This is why my tempest cleric of Valkur has healing word prepared.
@TheBayzent
@TheBayzent 10 ай бұрын
1:20 This right here, with the Sovengard music in the background included, is almost as literally me as a Ryan Gosling film.
@taylorforsyth4278
@taylorforsyth4278 2 жыл бұрын
PC: Dies Player: "F**k you, DM, I'm building a cleric." See it all the time
@muddlewait8844
@muddlewait8844 2 жыл бұрын
And it’s gonna be a TWILIGHT cleric
@kingcole5977
@kingcole5977 2 жыл бұрын
Be the change you want to see in the world
@LupineShadowOmega
@LupineShadowOmega 2 жыл бұрын
It was either that or a Druid. And he wasn't ready to actually say "Look at me...I'm the DM NOW!"
@sleepinghermit7778
@sleepinghermit7778 2 жыл бұрын
@@LupineShadowOmega "I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!"
@lowtiercharacter
@lowtiercharacter 2 жыл бұрын
"Clerics are the healer class" My heavy armored, dragonborn, frontline fighter, tempest cleric would like to have a word with you.
@jmc2830
@jmc2830 2 жыл бұрын
only people who actually believe that have never rolled up a cleric... they can fulfill pretty much every role. i've seen a group of 5 all play different spins on a cleric (a tank, melee support, ranged/pet, support caster and burst healer.) in a single campaign.. it was glorious, well and truly outclassed any other party set up i'd ever seen. well. outclassed any "normal" party, not specifically designed to break the game.
@zsDUGGZ
@zsDUGGZ 2 жыл бұрын
My half-plated, high elf, booming blade spamming, arcana cleric would also like a word as well.
@kylepessell1350
@kylepessell1350 2 жыл бұрын
My heavy armored, Warforged, Paladin / Forge Domain Cleric that can defeat an entire party of level 20 adventurers by himself would also like to volunteer an exhibition match.
@waynewebster4651
@waynewebster4651 2 жыл бұрын
My Aasimarian War Cleric with Adamantine Plate Mail and Great Weapon Master would like to know more.
@OnigumoShadows
@OnigumoShadows 2 жыл бұрын
what a champ Jimmy the life cleric is.. a true hero riding on his steed to save the day... with all his healing magic!
@master0fthearts894
@master0fthearts894 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about this video is that it implies that Thor plays D&D in his spare time. Probably adopted it as a hoppy during the blip.
@gagglegames
@gagglegames 2 жыл бұрын
I see "how it feels" and I was ready for another LazyPurple video. Then I notice it's XP to level 3... Still excited!
@TheSmart-CasualGamer
@TheSmart-CasualGamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@pagekawaii5488 It's worth saying obvious bot, now there's an inbuilt translation option in KZfaq, we can tell that most of this is total gibberish. The word carrot is in there for Christ sake.
@dr.blackwing1358
@dr.blackwing1358 2 жыл бұрын
Ey. You know lazypurple too.
@jgr7487
@jgr7487 2 жыл бұрын
"I love you, Jimmy, & your healing magic!" that hit hard, & I don't even main Clerics.
@TheGateShallStand
@TheGateShallStand 2 жыл бұрын
God bless Jimmy and his cleric Binglebok, the only one willing to heal the party
@LucasDeziderio
@LucasDeziderio 2 жыл бұрын
“Every class can heal." Rogue: You guys know I'm still here, right?
@cristiaolson7327
@cristiaolson7327 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, that 37 on stealth made everyone forget about your very existence.
@cristiaolson7327
@cristiaolson7327 2 жыл бұрын
Also going to add that in the game I run, the rogue is the party healer...
@AZDfox
@AZDfox 2 жыл бұрын
Arcane Trickster has the same healing spells as Wizard
@zsDUGGZ
@zsDUGGZ 2 жыл бұрын
Fast hands (Thief subclass) with the healer feat. Healer kit as a bonus action
@AZDfox
@AZDfox 2 жыл бұрын
@@zsDUGGZ thief with a Staff of Healing
@SladePate
@SladePate 2 жыл бұрын
I’m happy Thor is now Canon in the JBU(Jacob Budz Univernse)
@quendi5557
@quendi5557 2 жыл бұрын
I have one really pendantic thing to say, Grave Cleric is also based around healing.
@lazerbeam134
@lazerbeam134 2 жыл бұрын
From dead to UnDead best healing ever
@quendi5557
@quendi5557 2 жыл бұрын
@@lazerbeam134 grumbles in Grave Cleric being anti undead even for clerics.
@constrainedanacronysm1370
@constrainedanacronysm1370 2 жыл бұрын
Grave Cleric is based around party recovery not healing, which is an important distinction. You usually only heal someone if they are already out of the fight and at 0 hp... or if they are already dead put them on ice with gentle repose and revive them with one of your many rivival spells after the fight. Your usually there as a Grave Cleric to undo a bad situation once people are down, not keep them topped off with healing each turn.
@quendi5557
@quendi5557 2 жыл бұрын
@@constrainedanacronysm1370 Fair, but it still gets a significant bump to it's healing capability.
@constrainedanacronysm1370
@constrainedanacronysm1370 2 жыл бұрын
@@quendi5557 But only in service to the Domain's overall theme of staving off death just that bit longer. It also prevents crits, resurrects party members, preserves corpses indefinitely, outright prevents death with Domain spells like Death Ward. Healing people at Death's Door for max is just a small part of warding off the cold touch of the Grave from your worthy compatriots... and in of itself is the only directly healing related feature you get from the Domain.
@oengus
@oengus 2 жыл бұрын
As I've read in some guide somewhere on the Internet: the best healer in the party is the one that prevents the enemy from damaging the party in the first place
@MarkoArillius
@MarkoArillius 2 жыл бұрын
That's only true because of the balance D&D has. It takes a special amount of effort to make anything from 3.5/Pathfinder/5e heal as much as the incoming damage. Actually, don't even know if it's possible in 5e. I just know that it takes a LOT in the other two. It can be done though, so long as you have a DM that's okay with it. Some DM's do not like healers that are that competent.
@nahlies2382
@nahlies2382 2 жыл бұрын
AKA Armorer artificer
@connerzed3588
@connerzed3588 Жыл бұрын
We in the cleric biz like to call that "preventive medicine"
@MapleLamia
@MapleLamia 2 жыл бұрын
Disappointed the video didn't end with the damage of that Guiding Bolt being like 845
@MmeCShadow
@MmeCShadow 2 жыл бұрын
I was definitely waiting for them all to acknowledge the point, verbally hug it out, and then the Guiding Bolt to deal minimal damage followed immediately by a party wipe.
@chasebarber6154
@chasebarber6154 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most fun characters I've ever played was a Death Cleric who didn't have any healing magic. He was a traveling mortician, and had no use for such things. He handled the dead, and occasionally shifted people from one side of that line to the other when it suited him. Inflict Wounds was my most used spell, and my DM hated me for that. Lol
@Dominik356
@Dominik356 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing outheals a deal enemy.
@timothywhitney6307
@timothywhitney6307 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who plays cleric in almost every single adventure I go on as a player, I so appreciate your Jimmy character. I tend to prepare mostly supportive in healing spells and all my adventures. And it is so true. People just expect to play recklessly and expect that you're always there to heal them. But I so appreciate the packs that I get on the back from just simply healing them with word of healing or something dumb like that. I usually play as a life cleric because people are silly and don't know how to heal for themselves. This is by far the best video you have ever made. This is coming from a player of D&D who primarily sticks to the cleric. Thank you for making this content. It is hilarious! I'm so looking forward to when you do another class.
@dusty0559
@dusty0559 2 жыл бұрын
"Only one of them is specc'd for healing" Then again, that same subclass get's spiritual weapon and guardian of faith as class spells....
@TeamHippo
@TeamHippo 2 жыл бұрын
Every class I've played, Cleric's have always been the highest damagers 😂
@linkholder
@linkholder 2 жыл бұрын
The DM had to text Jimmy to make a healing spell to get the players on track, lol
@apisashla8650
@apisashla8650 2 жыл бұрын
This cracked me up because I'm in a campaign right now where I'm playing a light cleric and another party member is a full heal/buffbot life cleric. Binglebok is real and we do love his healing magic
@peterhand6929
@peterhand6929 2 жыл бұрын
"Sounds like a Paladin" Always annoys me. There's a reason Paladins don't choose domains. Faith in a God has no affect on their powers. Only the oaths they follow do. People be playin their Paladins like Clerics of War.
@vervixx9272
@vervixx9272 2 жыл бұрын
my first character was a paladin that didnt even know they are following a god :D (made the god be the "bad guy" manipulating her to take an outh to "save the world")
@kryptonianguest1903
@kryptonianguest1903 2 жыл бұрын
@@vervixx9272 Did you have to use the "the good god is secretly bad" cliche? That's so basic.
@Klusterspace
@Klusterspace 2 жыл бұрын
@@kryptonianguest1903 I'm reporting you to the dnd police.
@Casino220
@Casino220 2 жыл бұрын
@@kryptonianguest1903 dnd is basic. Dnd deliberately and explicitly encourages leaning on tropes. Anything to get the table together and game running.
@snazzyfeathers
@snazzyfeathers 2 жыл бұрын
@@kryptonianguest1903 Pumpkin Spice is also basic and that drink is positively bussin.
@saqvobase4301
@saqvobase4301 2 жыл бұрын
How it feels to play a monk: I punch :)
@fleurgymcheurgy9267
@fleurgymcheurgy9267 2 жыл бұрын
Clerics can be the dps, the tank, the stealth, the glass cannon, and yes, the healer. As versatile as it can be, however, it is worth noting that they do still have a lot to offer as healers
@dr.faaque7340
@dr.faaque7340 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to play a campaign with this guy. Effin legendary
@dicedragon4171
@dicedragon4171 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who mains healing/support let me tell you... There are SO many options from other classes. I've played an oath of the crown/protection paladin. I've played a circle of stars druid. I have fun plans for a college of creation bard and a divine soul sorcerer. I also have plans for a video series called "oops all..." Where I go through different classes and try to build out the four basic ttrpg roles (tank, DPS, healer/support, and burst damage) using one class (for example oops all artificers).
@Scorpious187
@Scorpious187 2 жыл бұрын
Cleric is only played properly when your attitude is "Hey guess what... _I don't need to heal anyone if I kill all the enemies first."_ This is why my Light Domain Cleric starts out combat by calling out to the enemies like "Hello boys!" and launching a Fireball cast at her max level into the center of the battlefield.
@thesaltybeard1793
@thesaltybeard1793 2 жыл бұрын
*counterspell*
@Arcalight1
@Arcalight1 Жыл бұрын
My favorite class is Cleric and i feel this whole vid in my bones
@djzombie5117
@djzombie5117 2 жыл бұрын
0:23 hey there mister Lebowski. Nice to see you dude
@snazzyfeathers
@snazzyfeathers 2 жыл бұрын
Cleric is great because you can throw in one or two healing spells for these situations, and then slam down those juicy burst damage abilities. 6th level shatter + channel divinity big daddy Tempest Cleric 😩
@daleanddale
@daleanddale 2 жыл бұрын
But why not just cast Destructive wave or Call lightning with that same slot? They do way more damage.
@snazzyfeathers
@snazzyfeathers 2 жыл бұрын
@@daleanddale Don't look too much into it i was just jokiny
@aperson3996
@aperson3996 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been playing a yuan Ti cleric of Zehir, domain of Trickery, and he’s awesome. He is basically just a snake cultist that used poison spells, summons spiritual daggers, and uses stealth spells like “Pass Without Trace” . All the while, the literal only healing spell he has is “Cure Wounds.” So yeah, I agree, not all clerics need to ONLY be about healing
@fartinwolf2759
@fartinwolf2759 2 жыл бұрын
Saw you dressed up and immediately liked the video lol. You are too cool man
@zman1347
@zman1347 10 ай бұрын
My rebuttal to this guy is that healing word is a bonus action there’s no reason to throw it out there every now and then as a cleric XD
@judostar11
@judostar11 2 жыл бұрын
As a life domain cleric, I usually save heals for after the fights (unless a party member is knocked down). Casting things like guiding bolt, sacred flame, and bless are much more useful during combat. Also, turn undead is great when you're a low level party that's been outnumbered by undead. I used it recently and it turned the fight from a dire situation to us being able to deal with it just fine. Seeing all of those opportunity attacks that our barbarian, rogue, and paladin got off was glorious.
@carumsarene
@carumsarene 2 жыл бұрын
A Divine Soul Sorcerer/Celestial Warlock Coffeelock makes a far better healer than an ordinary cleric. Near infinite spell slots, you never have to worry about the healer running out of juice.
@CrusaderKnight2000
@CrusaderKnight2000 2 жыл бұрын
Using warlock and spell slots in the same sentence surprises me since they don't have any decent amount usually.
@carumsarene
@carumsarene 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrusaderKnight2000 Coffeelocks are a build that abuses the way Font of Magic interacts with Pact Magic, allowing you to farm spell slots. It's not immediately broken, as you still need downtime, however, you can expect to see numbers like 300-600 spell slots on a character. I have a Wild Magic/Archfey one.
@Spectrum0122
@Spectrum0122 2 ай бұрын
Jacob as "fat thor" is hilarious to me. The glasses and posture really sell it
@frankquinn2602
@frankquinn2602 2 жыл бұрын
That is a very good thor, Great video as always!
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