How Long does it Take to Put on Armor? (1380s - 1390s configuration)

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Knyght Errant

Knyght Errant

Күн бұрын

How long does it take to put on armor anyway? In this video I will time myself putting on armor at the 'normal' pace without trying to rush or intentionally stopping to explain things as I go. The results actually surprised me!
Why no backplate? Because it's the late 14th century! They're still relatively uncommon and a coat of mail is a perfectly suitable and well documented back defense for this time period. Fighting in formations of men-at-arms also doesn't present the back to your enemy nearly as much as one might think. If you'd like to learn more about the development of back armor, here you go:
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@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 3 жыл бұрын
Why no backplate? Because it's the late 14th century! Fully developed steel backplates are still emerging technology and wouldn't become very common until after the turn of the 14th/15th century. A coat of mail is a perfectly suitable and well documented back defense for this time period (and breastplates would even continue to be worn without backplates for the next 100 years in certain configurations of armor). My later c1415 harness _does_ have a backplate and complete cuirass but that would be inappropriate for the 1390s. Additionally, fighting in close formations of men-at-arms also doesn't present one's back to one's enemy nearly as much as one might think. If you'd like to learn more about the development of back armor, here is a video on that: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pc9hgL2ZqrKRXYk.html
@chieckenman4432
@chieckenman4432 2 жыл бұрын
I see, was wondering that
@mina7572
@mina7572 2 жыл бұрын
You should make a video showing your different armor configurations in chronological order and do a 360° turn with each.
@jj987987987
@jj987987987 Жыл бұрын
What changed during the late 14th century that all the sudden they feel the needs to have a back plate?
@charlesdeleo4608
@charlesdeleo4608 Жыл бұрын
That's true, most armors from the 14th century did not have fully developed backplates yet. This type of armor would've been worn by the knights of Richard II when he put down the Peasants' Revolt of 1381, as well as by the knights who fought for the Serbian Prince Lazar Hrebeljanović against the Ottoman sultan Murad I at the Battle of Kosovo in 1389, as well as by crusaders that fought against Bayezid I at the Battle of Nicopolis in 1397. Most knights didn't get the additions of backplates to their armor panoplies until around the time of the Lancastrian phase of the Hundred Years' War, when Henry V defeated the French at Agincourt, and even when Joan of Arc paved the way for the successful French counteroffensives against the English. By the second half of the 15th century, though, this style of armor is being superseded by the advanced suits of plate armor that were already starting to emerge in Milan and Augsburg, such as the famed "Gothic style" that was definitely one of the popular styles of the late 15th century and early 16th century, but that's a topic for a whole other video.
@danielmace406
@danielmace406 5 жыл бұрын
The moment you tried to raise the visor and it immediately fell was such a Monty Python moment...
@vanillaicecream2385
@vanillaicecream2385 3 жыл бұрын
who are you so wise in the art of science
@Nantosuelta
@Nantosuelta 2 жыл бұрын
one of my favorite bits of visual comedy is the design of Terry Jones helmet in The Holy Grail, and the fact that the visor cant stay up so he just has to hold it there
@Saganen
@Saganen 7 жыл бұрын
"My wife is very familiar with putting my armor on and off" This guy is a legend.
@gaajeshoek215
@gaajeshoek215 5 жыл бұрын
he should have said my squire.
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 5 жыл бұрын
+gaajes hoek Why? His wife is far more fitting for the joke.
@Pawn2e4
@Pawn2e4 4 жыл бұрын
@@LordVader1094 The man is the legend for having such a well trained wife
@jasonbane3646
@jasonbane3646 4 жыл бұрын
are you familiar with putting her chastity belt on and off?
@felipeuseche332
@felipeuseche332 3 жыл бұрын
I knew as soon as I heard it... someone has to make this comment.
@MrWeAllAreOne
@MrWeAllAreOne 4 жыл бұрын
When you hear a noise late at night downstairs....."wife fetch me my armour"
@ze_rubenator
@ze_rubenator 8 жыл бұрын
3:15 A little Monty Python moment there =P
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Ze Rubenator Happens to the best of us! :)
@Nighti88
@Nighti88 8 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant Would be interesting how difficult it is, to get somebody out of armor, if he is wounded and can't help or even stand up. Do you know somebody who is a bit in medival medicine? Might be an interesting project for an event. The weight of the parts itself is interesting, but won't lead to any importent conclusion. It's very diferent to just carry around a coat of mail and to wear it. The interesting question is, how much you feel the weight of the armor and how much it may affect you.
@fiddleking4419
@fiddleking4419 8 жыл бұрын
+Ze Rubenator exactly what I thought too.
@clintcarpentier2424
@clintcarpentier2424 8 жыл бұрын
+Nighti88 A small hook blase will make short work of those leather straps. I could have him outta that tin before you could open your can of beans. Even the mail, once released from the plates, can be yanked out from under him. I'm tellin ya, one minute to save his life from a moral wound; the armorer will be weeks re-strapping it back into fighting condition.
@clintcarpentier2424
@clintcarpentier2424 8 жыл бұрын
+Ze Rubenator Collab... "Take that evil dire bunny, oh darkspawn, fear my sword of truthiness."
@PWCTran
@PWCTran 8 жыл бұрын
Fuck a suit, a man looks best in a suit of armor!
@oddluck4180
@oddluck4180 6 жыл бұрын
Dominick Tran Still a suit.
@arcadeangel812
@arcadeangel812 6 жыл бұрын
Dominick Tran and really sexy. Specially with the helmet on.
@patanjalilemonsquashimmortal
@patanjalilemonsquashimmortal 6 жыл бұрын
Only if I could afford one...
@g-dub1553
@g-dub1553 5 жыл бұрын
Dude ,you got all the way through the video and looked like a boss...(drops visor) DOH!
@braija
@braija 7 жыл бұрын
Please please please, make a video where you do this rushed, as if your camp was under attack.
@s0meRand0m129
@s0meRand0m129 7 жыл бұрын
simple , just wear the mithril and you are good to go
@GobanShodan
@GobanShodan 6 жыл бұрын
If youre being attacked you probably wouldnt have much time to put on anything before getting killed.
@huynhyurivanvladamir7978
@huynhyurivanvladamir7978 6 жыл бұрын
a sword and shield ready up is all you need for sudden attack
@Jeremiah90526
@Jeremiah90526 6 жыл бұрын
My Camp is under attack with this as my suit of armor. My reaction, throw on the chainmail and helmet, grab sword, go. As long as you can pick up a shield, you are protected against 90+% of what the enemy is going to throw at you and you are combat effective in a very short timeframe (less than 1 minute) so you can actually break the enemy's initiative. Attacking while minimally armored but while the attack is still fresh is better for breaking an attack than holding off for 9 minutes while the men around you are beaten back and you end up well armored, but surrounded and alone.
@TheStraightestWhitest
@TheStraightestWhitest 6 жыл бұрын
Jeremiah90526 Well said. Still it must work a bit on your confidence, knowing you can take just about any attack that isn't blunt/full force with relative ease must be pretty nice, whereas having to worry about every stray slice can be heart-wrenching I imagine.
@DALILOMODIY
@DALILOMODIY 7 жыл бұрын
ironman makes more sense now! very cool! btw Metatron sent me :)
@metatronyt
@metatronyt 8 жыл бұрын
Nice one and I love your harness mate. Did you re oil it after this video? I mean do you put a oil coating even for small things like this or only if you take it outside for long?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Metatron Thanks Raffaello! No, I don't bother oiling it after something like this. The coating that builds up on it is strong enough to protect it through light handling. After I wear it around outside for a day or two (especially after the public handles my armor all day), then I worry about cleaning it.
@metatronyt
@metatronyt 8 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant ok Fantastic because honestly your armour is one of the best maintained armours I have seen, not one single little spot, incredible job. I'm having an armourer make a plate breastplate for me and it's going to be spring steel although I don't think I'll have it hardened as I don't intend on jousting nor fighting on it but just use it for videos and I am worring on how to protect it well as having Indian sheet metal rust is no big deal but having nice and expensive spring steel rust would be such a waste
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
I intend to do a video on armor maintenance in the future, but it basically boils down to using an anti-corrosive oil of your choice (I use a firearm oil) and 3M scrubby pads of various grits depending on how aggressive I need to be with rust.
@ismaelguerra9479
@ismaelguerra9479 6 жыл бұрын
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@jooot_6850
@jooot_6850 6 жыл бұрын
Ismael Guerra _shut_
@oberstul1941
@oberstul1941 7 жыл бұрын
The Metatron sent me! Excellent channel, mate!
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you're enjoying it!
@arekpetrosian4965
@arekpetrosian4965 7 жыл бұрын
Same here. And great vid, bro. Good work.
@0fficer47
@0fficer47 7 жыл бұрын
Same! That is too cool man!
@kaylew108
@kaylew108 7 жыл бұрын
Me too. Good stuff
@xinfinity8532
@xinfinity8532 7 жыл бұрын
lol Mindhouse warehouse said it takes 1 hour to put on and take off armour
@allhailqueenhelga
@allhailqueenhelga 6 жыл бұрын
Watching this and then watching your new videos, I can see the development of your kit, as you slowly pick up better and better pieces. It's a joy to see!
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I would just amend that to say _later_ not necessarily _better_ . Our living history club sometimes does scenarios in both the 1380s and early 1400s, so the newer stuff is to suit the later scenarios which we've been doing more of recently.
@allhailqueenhelga
@allhailqueenhelga 6 жыл бұрын
Ahh, okay, that makes sense. Thank you for the correction, actually. Either way, watching people's kit develop is always wonderful.
@luxordeathbed
@luxordeathbed 8 жыл бұрын
Good vid. Took the cake when the visor fell down. Almost Monty Pythonish. Educational.
@kingofhere1662
@kingofhere1662 7 жыл бұрын
Um... You messed up. I heard it was supposed to take you an hour to put all that armor on. Get it right next time! :D
@andersgjersoe4852
@andersgjersoe4852 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's what I was told too....and they all wore it 24/7!
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Haha... yes, next time I'll also put lice and fleas in my beard and stop brushing my teeth for 3 months :)
@stephencrompton4352
@stephencrompton4352 5 жыл бұрын
@Tronix r/whoooosh
@tableturtle
@tableturtle 5 жыл бұрын
@Tronix kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fZuYkpmXx9y7dn0.html Watch this video, then you'll get the joke.
@jared925
@jared925 8 жыл бұрын
That was a lot faster than I thought it would be. I've always heard in the area of fifteen to twenty minutes.
@Tariei
@Tariei 8 жыл бұрын
+Vesrox Much faster to take off than I thought. I would love to see a whole series on gearing up into XII-XVII armour. Dropping your gear is interesting too. I never even thought of that but I assumed it would take about the same time. On the other hand when you put something on you need to be more careful to make sure it "sits right". But I wore boots and chest rig that are much easier to put on than take off.
@jared925
@jared925 8 жыл бұрын
That'd be pretty great. I would personally love to see a video of someone getting into a 16th century harness.
@higgins1812
@higgins1812 8 жыл бұрын
+Vesrox Add in the donning of the gambeson, lendenier, hose, shoes, etc, and you're right in the ballpark.
@wendygoerl9162
@wendygoerl9162 7 жыл бұрын
Like he says, it depends on the specific variant of armor you're talking about, and how familiar your assistant(s) are with armoring you.
@jeremyrainman
@jeremyrainman 7 жыл бұрын
Well, they weren't using a breastplate stretcher, so it was faster.
@HaNsWiDjAjA
@HaNsWiDjAjA 8 жыл бұрын
I guess in an emergency situation you could just put on the haubergeon, grab the helmet and gauntlets, and would still be pretty well protected!
@danielthompson6207
@danielthompson6207 8 жыл бұрын
I've been excitedly waiting for this video, as you already know, thanks for making it! I can see why you would choose to put the leg pieces on yourself, to me it seems like it would be more efficient that way since your legs are more easily accessed by your own arms than if someone were to have to move around you to get to everything. As a side note, that is a beautiful table you have there
@oolooo
@oolooo 3 жыл бұрын
The milisecond you turn your back , I thought "He has no backplate , bad set of armour" .Inmediately , a recomended balloon appears and is a video about Backplates . You read my mind , Ian .You are a treasure .
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, turns out a lot of people had the same thought :)
@BlakeStackman
@BlakeStackman 3 жыл бұрын
Mine takes 15 to 20 mins sometimes, but that is because my armour is not fitted properly to me and the people who assist me sometimes aren't familiar with my armour. But it is getting faster the more times we do it and always making adjustments to make it fit better to me. Your amour looks amazing and looks very well fitted. Very impressive! Thank you for this video.
@RamBam3000
@RamBam3000 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, knyghterrant. Very enlightening and clears up something I'd always wondered about.
@Sotyx1
@Sotyx1 6 жыл бұрын
My estimate was around 15 minutes. I like the fact that getting all armoured up like that takes even less time
@benetesilva
@benetesilva 7 жыл бұрын
>tmw i will never have a faithful, dedicated wife put armor on me why even live...
@ahoosifoou4211
@ahoosifoou4211 7 жыл бұрын
the struggles for men today who have no armor
@MrSottho
@MrSottho 7 жыл бұрын
You'll never have one unless you attempt to retake the holy land in glorious crussade. #deusvult
@Cetoke
@Cetoke 7 жыл бұрын
DEUS VULT!
@orlando9666
@orlando9666 6 жыл бұрын
Benete Silva why is your name like that
@wetstoffels3198
@wetstoffels3198 6 жыл бұрын
Fuck the Christian religion
@boredphysicist
@boredphysicist 9 ай бұрын
The look of just the legs on with the arming garments is so cool lol, definitely gives a cool half ready look
@Dragonfly0987
@Dragonfly0987 5 жыл бұрын
Monty Python moment at 3:15. just found yer site mate; appreciate ya. Edit: just saw i've been pre-empted by 24 months.
@perrytran9504
@perrytran9504 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video - also cool to see you comment on it all these years later just to give extra info. The timing was admittedly a little faster than I expected, but to me it's certainly a good demonstration of some limitations of this plate harness outside a battlefield scenario. In a typical fantasy (or at least historical fiction) adventuring setting, 9.5 minutes is a lot of time if you don't have a good idea when or if you might run into trouble, and of course since you need help with certain parts of the armor it'll likely take longer in practice. Even 3.5 can be noticeable if you want to switch gear on the fly, and that's not accounting for time actually putting on the new stuff. Overall, it'd be cool if games could do a better job factoring this in.
@theaussiebogan9680
@theaussiebogan9680 7 жыл бұрын
I am always impressed by your harness. Its a really beautiful piece
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@theaussiebogan9680
@theaussiebogan9680 7 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant hered a fun little thing: I had seen that picture of you in armor (the thumbnail one) a fair number of times on various sites, using it to show what a Knight would look like. I was quite surprised when I found your channel and saw it. How much did it cost? I would love to have a suit like that. One day!
@207tex
@207tex 8 жыл бұрын
scholagladiatoria sent me here, new favourite channel
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+207tex Thanks! Welcome to the channel!
@kurtoogle4576
@kurtoogle4576 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was always curious about this. Also - looks great!
@BastardOfUnknownOrigins
@BastardOfUnknownOrigins 7 жыл бұрын
you can see the food and lice in his beard already.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
I also stopped brushing my teeth and bathing 1 year before making this video so it would be more 'authentic' :)
@tapioperala3010
@tapioperala3010 7 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant Hope you had some sort of shelter outside, because I really don't think you were kept indoors. :P
@user-xd5zi3kt4s
@user-xd5zi3kt4s 5 жыл бұрын
Tristan Roosevelt Ireland stupid
@gustavfrye2736
@gustavfrye2736 4 жыл бұрын
@@firstnamett4656 yeah, they're making these jokes because they came here from "Debunking "10 Terrifying facts about medieval nights"" video from Metatron
@300warrior300
@300warrior300 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much fro this. Really interesting.
@dandavis5294
@dandavis5294 8 жыл бұрын
I love this so very much. Great video.
@hku99
@hku99 8 жыл бұрын
Cooler than I thought , good stuff
@BlackLegion12621
@BlackLegion12621 6 жыл бұрын
This was very satisfying to watch.
@Psiberzerker
@Psiberzerker 7 жыл бұрын
Nice polax! I
@Psiberzerker
@Psiberzerker 7 жыл бұрын
Because it's exceedingly difficult to cut through Armor. Basically what it's designed for, protecting you from cuts. However, in battle you could expect to run into varying levels of armor on the battlefield. So, it was aadvantageous to be armed for everything from a fully armored Knight to a Levee (Conscripted militiaman) with a spear, and hooplande.
@corey8420
@corey8420 2 жыл бұрын
Love these kinda visual videos, you do a good job explaining things, but normally have a difficult time flowing explanations without visual examples.
@mynameswouldntwork
@mynameswouldntwork 7 жыл бұрын
Cool video, man.
@judofry
@judofry 8 жыл бұрын
3:46 Now you are all set to go to the grocery store... In all seriousness, awesome video, really fascinating to see how the armor is actually put on :)
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+judofry Thank you! I'm sure I'd get some interesting looks! I will do a video in the future that explains this process in much more detail, but I didn't want to screw up the timing aspect.
@raghunandan5125
@raghunandan5125 2 жыл бұрын
This is very nicely done ... thanks :)
@johannesdolch
@johannesdolch 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video.
@tiffsaver
@tiffsaver 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for posting this video!! I always wanted to see the entire process done. Btw, I have two questions for you: 1) What is your vision like when under the visor?? It seems to me that this might be the single most negative aspect of wearing a helmet. 2) What about the heat underneath all this stuff during the warmth of summer?? How do you deal with it, and how would Medieval knights handle it as well?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, glad you enjoyed the video! 1. Vision is better than most people imagine, but it's not fantastic. On my particular helmet there are two individual vision slits, but you don't see them separately. Since our vision is binocular, your brain takes the information from both eyes and the interruption in the middle disappears pretty well unless you intentionally cross your eyes and focus inside the helmet. That said, I can still only see directly in front of me, and in an arc of about 90* as opposed to the normal 180+ degree vision we normally have. I cannot see much above me, and I get limited vision through the 'mouth' of the visor to see the ground and get a sense of obstacles below me. (visual demonstration here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gL-IqJt9rMrIh4k.html) 2. When it's particularly hot out, wearing armor compounds the problem a lot. The main offender is the helmet. You take it off when you don't need it, and when you do need it, you keep the visor open or removed as much as possible unless you need it at that moment to defend yourself. We do have at least one account of knights in the Middle East choosing to switch out their fully enclosed helms for more open style helmets that didn't obstruct their faces to they could breathe better in the heat. Staying hydrated is also incredibly important. Medieval people would have understood and done the same, but the logistics of it all are unclear.
@tiffsaver
@tiffsaver 3 жыл бұрын
@@KnyghtErrant Thanks for getting back so soon. So many YT podcasters don't even bother to get back, so kudos to you. I imagined as such. I think the Roman gladiators faced the identical challenges when wearing a helmet... having to choose between sacrificing head protection for a clearer view of your opponent. Whenever I've seen pictures of knights, however, I've never seen them wearing a canteen! Today, they'd have titanium armor, air conditioning, and Gatorade:)
@panpiper
@panpiper 3 жыл бұрын
It used to take me about ten minutes, at a leisurely pace. My arms and legs were each a single set of half plate held with straps. The whole of my chest, shoulders and waist was protected by a clamshell breastplate. That I would lower over my head, then do up the retention straps on the sides. Pauldrons and such were already affixed to the breastplate. A Gorget I then added, and both strapped closed and strapped to the breastplate so a thrust to the throat would not cause blunt trauma. I wore no sabatons. I needed no help to don my armor.
@lafleched
@lafleched 2 ай бұрын
It’s good to see you can get a full harness without any arming points on the gambeson. Figuring out how many arming points to get and where all those laces go has been a real sticking point for me, but it looks like most of the armor you have is self supporting or links up directly with the other plates.
@KevinMoon148
@KevinMoon148 8 жыл бұрын
I'd follow you into battle any day sir! Middle ages or out to sea!
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Kevin Moon Shouldn't you be a chief by now? ;) Good to see you on here!
@KevinMoon148
@KevinMoon148 8 жыл бұрын
About to go up for my second look in 2016. Awesome to see how fully committed you are to this, some impressive stuff
@seth424
@seth424 6 жыл бұрын
3:15 Loved the helmet fail XD
@bb-bc3zw
@bb-bc3zw 5 жыл бұрын
"HONEY?! WHERE IS MY ARMOURED SUIT?!"
@SharkByteOfficial
@SharkByteOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Drake was a knight
@americancheese9103
@americancheese9103 6 жыл бұрын
🅱👏👏
@Zenia666
@Zenia666 5 жыл бұрын
Drake would never be a knight. He would cry because the armor is "too heavy"
@skjaldulfr
@skjaldulfr 6 жыл бұрын
That is beautiful armor!
@thiagodunadan
@thiagodunadan 8 жыл бұрын
First of all, awesome video again, man! You never cease to amaze me. Nine minutes is very quick for a pre-planned action. But, in the case of an emergency, do you think they could have had a different modus operandi for putting on only some parts of the armor, to speed up the process? In your opinion, wich parts would you put on if you had to prepare really fast?
@portkapul1283
@portkapul1283 8 жыл бұрын
+Thiago Monteiro probably just the mail shirt, it protects the most for a single piece and most of other parts of armor are only supplements to the mail
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Port Kapul If I was in camp, expecting a surprise attack, I would strip down to my leg harness and possibly leave the mail shirt on. In an immediate situation I can throw on helmet and gauntlets, and if I have any advanced warning at all, I think I could get into the breastplate and arms quick enough from that point.
@anastasia-esterkapchits2978
@anastasia-esterkapchits2978 8 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant And a traveling knight, say, what protection would he wear? He can't be with the full armor all day long, I guess.
@HaNsWiDjAjA
@HaNsWiDjAjA 8 жыл бұрын
+Anastasia-Ester Kapchits I dont see why not. Modern infantrymen often carried more weight on their backpacks than what a full suit of plate armour would amount to. Also modern NBC suits are pretty damn stifling, and yet soldiers wore them all day long even in scorching heat of the Middle East or the humid jungles of the tropics.
@anastasia-esterkapchits2978
@anastasia-esterkapchits2978 8 жыл бұрын
+John Huang I agree, the armor is not heavier than the weight that the modern soldier carrier (about 20 kg, I suppose?), but it is not just the weight. It is also how this weight spread. The armor puts significant weight on the legs, it means that every step you make demands much more effort. The armor also puts some pressure on the chest, meaning you can not breathe freely, which makes you tired much faster. Also it is much less comfortable. You can not even scratch yourself while in armor. That's wright, it may happen that a modern soldier stays in his protection gear all day long, but it will generally happen when his mission doesn't require physical effort, static post, for example. In a foot patrol a soldier is likely to wear no protection except helmet and carry much smaller weight. And finally, a problem that modern soldier does not have, this antic armor should be protected from dump and rain, otherwise putting it back in order demands significant work.
@EtioDesign
@EtioDesign 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Armor🔥
@martinvasilevki9281
@martinvasilevki9281 6 жыл бұрын
One word BEAUTIFUL
@DevinSmith56
@DevinSmith56 8 жыл бұрын
Cool video, thanks.
@vonschlesien
@vonschlesien 5 жыл бұрын
Latecomer here! Question: what would be a ballpark figure for the time it takes if you're really rushing? There are examples of tactical surprise being used to catch an opposing force out of armor, and I'm curious about the timing involved in those examples.
@user-mb4ux7xv4j
@user-mb4ux7xv4j 8 жыл бұрын
Ian you must have a decent job to be able to purchase a full suit of plate don't you? What did your whole harness cost you? Also interesting video as always, I'm always more happy than for most other youtube channels I am subscribed to when I see a new video from you :)
@makeris32
@makeris32 8 жыл бұрын
+Al-Malik Al-Ashraf Khalil I think he is or was a pilot in his country's army.
@WilliamMerzlak
@WilliamMerzlak 8 жыл бұрын
There are websites like Cult of Athena that sell from multiple blacksmiths and companies. depending on the quality of the metal and craftsmanship. Something like this would run in the realm of $1800.00 to $2400.00. Grade of steel is important. 12 gauge stainless steel will undoubtedly cost significantly more. this looks like it's SCA quality with a matte finish. A mirrored finish will cost extra on parts. This is probably 16 Gauge Hardened Steel so expect around $2000.00. Custom fit, Etched 12g stainless parts with a complete 15th centure style (including backplate and gorget) with brass hardware and hand forged buckles can run in the $15,000.00 dollar range.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Al-Malik Al-Ashraf Khalil Hah... I wish this only cost in the $2,000 range :) (That's about what a helmet costs). Custom 1050 spring steel, hardened and tempered, and fit by a bespoke armorer is a bit more than that. I had to purchase this armor over the period of several years. I just don't like discussing how much everything I own costs because it usually leads to very incorrect speculation. I would never recommend getting stainless steel for any component if historical accuracy is a priority. The gauge of the steel varies wildly depending on the individual components.
@Matt-pr1xv
@Matt-pr1xv 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian. These are some great videos. I had actually figured on more like 20 minutes so, yeah, way faster than I thought. I've got two questions for you. First, how much would a suit of armor have cost to buy back in ye olden days? I understand that this is a ridiculously vague question, but if you walked into an armorer's stall in a Random City in Hypotheticallandia, how much could you expect to spend? Contemporary currencies are fine; knights obviously weren't buying their kit with USD. Second, and you can blame your kettle hat stand for this one, how useful do you think feudal-style armor and armament would be in a zombie apocalypse? Hope you get a chance to answer this. Cheers.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Matt L One day I will time how long it takes to lace up my arming doublet, I suspect it adds a couple minutes to the overall time :) Price is very variable. A lot of things like basic helmets or breastplates may have been mass-manufactured for issue to infantry. While a full functional harness for a man-at-arms could still cost more money than most people could afford, the prices of armor in period can get quite obscene mostly because of the level of finish and decoration. We take polish for granted now, but in period you paid out the nose for highly polished armor. Toby Capwell made a nice comparison... say you buy a really nice high-end harness, well-polished today for a total cost of $20,000.00 About $3,000-$5,000 of that cost is what it took to get your armor to a nice shine. So the functional armor itself was about 75%+ of the total cost. In period if a highly polished armor cost $20,000.00, the first $5,000.00 would have gotten you the absolutely functional harness. The other $15K was spent polishing it. Now as far as the magnitude of cost of a nice harness in period, it is said that the very fine gothic harness of Archduke Sigismund of Tyrol in modern equivalent, cost $3.5 Million to make with another $650,000 worth of gold.(media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/96/08/b1/9608b19e29d7720d2cf363156f469aa1.jpg). A far less wealthy man-at-arms could probably expect a similar magnitude purchase of financing a house in modern terms to get an affordable harness for themselves. Armor would be great for not getting bitten by zombies, but no way could you wear armor all day every day. So unless you lived in a fortified area and only needed to wear harness to go 'out the wire' so to speak, it's probably not all that practical :)
@lordllewellynofdarkdelight2613
@lordllewellynofdarkdelight2613 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks!
@lebarosky
@lebarosky 8 жыл бұрын
Well, dude, you look as close to the effigy of the Black Prince as anyone I've ever seen in RL. Well done!
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+lebarosky Thanks. I appreciate it! Still plenty of improvements to be made, but I'll tackle them as I can :)
@grinningchicken
@grinningchicken 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@wizardeddas
@wizardeddas 6 жыл бұрын
I like that D&D has the time to don heavy armor pretty close to what it took you.
@benwright3430
@benwright3430 7 жыл бұрын
Love this medieval armour channel great video! Just a question how long would it take to put on the back plate...
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
This configuration of armor is too early for a solid backplate. For a slightly later armor, with a backplate, if _nothing else changed_ in the configuration, you might see a minute increase in time. Soon I will make a similar video with a slightly different style of torso armor that will answer this question more concretely.
@AlexanderWernerJr
@AlexanderWernerJr 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent videos, I'm a great fan of your work! I was wondering about one thing: Can you actually put the entire armour on by yourself if you need to, regardless of how much time it would take? Or is it simply impossible to put on e.g. the breast plate and the arm protection without someone helping you?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, and thank you! So this answer is very specific to my armor and my armor only. It's not going to apply to other configurations. For the breastplate, I could pre-strap the shoulder straps and try to wriggle into it, but there's no way I could do the waist strap. While it would physically be 'on' it would be compromised because the waist strap is supposed to be tight to bare the load and keep it in place. To do so means it needs to be really tight. The arms would be impossible to point at the shoulders. I could probably get the straps done with a lot of frustration, but there's no way I can get the shoulder points done. That means it will inevitably shift out of place. So, you can physically get some of those things on your body, but I still wouldn't call that 'being able to put it on by myself,' because too many components would be a seriously compromised or completely nonfunctional position.
@AlexanderWernerJr
@AlexanderWernerJr 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the immediate reply! I was asking because I used to own a landsknecht-era-style back- and breastplate which could be put on without help, as the back plate had a belt attached which reach around to the front plate and could be fastened at the front to keep both plates in place at the waist; I'm not sure about its historical accuracy though. Do you happen to know if your configuration tended to be the norm in medieval times or was it completely depending on the individual armour designer, regardless which era is being looked at?
@fernandojorgesantamaria3283
@fernandojorgesantamaria3283 2 жыл бұрын
Interesante.Unos 10 minutos para ponerse la parte metálica de la armadura.Pero ¿cuanto tiempo lleva ponerse la parte acolchada,sin la cual no puede uno llevar dicha armadura?
@DoomWalker42
@DoomWalker42 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. The armour looks super cool. Though I was just wondering why the chestplate had no covering around the back because wouldn't that leave you vunerable to attack from behind though I guess you have chainmail.
@2sollen307
@2sollen307 6 жыл бұрын
It is much faster than I thought. Good imformation.
@fullarmourguy
@fullarmourguy 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, really like all your videos ! Please tell me where I can find the same chain mail as yours, wearing in this video.
@mordiveer5957
@mordiveer5957 8 жыл бұрын
this was really surprising and interesting! i always assumed it would take a lot longer.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Colin Bremner It's important to not come away from this thinking these times apply to all armors though. Armors of different time periods, and even the wide variety of contemporary armors in a given time period can introduce a lot of variation in the time required to put it on and take it off.
@mordiveer5957
@mordiveer5957 8 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant i will keep that in mind. The video however was still very helpful in putting into perspective the time it would have taken in a historical context, its easy to forget it was a practical set of equipment that i imagine wouldn't be as viable if it took ages to suit up. my imagination lacked context before this video so you have my thanks for that!
@DaaaahWhoosh
@DaaaahWhoosh 6 жыл бұрын
3:45 I can definitely understand the development (or over-development) of the codpiece now.
@NoahWeisbrod
@NoahWeisbrod 8 жыл бұрын
For a mail shirt, I've found it takes linger to take off than put on
@drizzt7dourden7
@drizzt7dourden7 8 жыл бұрын
+Noah Weisbrod that depends on your "style?" of putting it on and of. the easiest way i found was to go in a "praying" position (aka neeling down and lowering your torso) and then raising your hindparts ^^ this way the shirt will just glide of (might need a bit of help with the head so it doesnt get stuck) yes it looks a bit silly but its the fastest most compfy way i tryed ^^
@xxAntiOtakuxx
@xxAntiOtakuxx 7 жыл бұрын
+King Dormak the chromosome expelling forniphile, your mail might be too small then. It should fit almost like a proper fitted t-shirt, loose but not baggy.
@konradFerlangen
@konradFerlangen 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks that was helpful :)
@hahaureadmyname
@hahaureadmyname 2 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiousity, how secure would the armor be if a velcro "sheet" was attached to the front of the armor and it attached in the back like plastic knee pads/elbow pads? I.e. medieval plating with modern plastics/harnessing
@dphitch
@dphitch 8 жыл бұрын
Great Video. I'm very curious about mobility and actually fighting with the armor on, what would that be like? How is range of motion, flexibility affected and of course stamina. Also, how would the load of armor and arms compare to a modern combat load.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+SouthernComfort a lot of this will be addressed in future videos so please stay tuned, but the short answer is a lot better than most people assume.
@urbanmyths95
@urbanmyths95 8 жыл бұрын
i noticed you mention chausses yeah they take a while to put like my reeactment soceity has an arming of the knight bit and we have the knight put on the chausses beforehand but the rest of the kite including the gambe takes like a minute or two
@GalanisEucharthus
@GalanisEucharthus 7 жыл бұрын
The Metatron sent me. great vid. I'll definitely be checking out your other videos
@joekurtz6587
@joekurtz6587 8 жыл бұрын
This may seem like an unnecessary question but could plate armour protect you while fighting a bear? Could it stand a bear punch to the helm and keep the user alive?
@bluephoenix222
@bluephoenix222 8 жыл бұрын
+Paul Alvarez In some circumstances if it's a young bear yes, but in most cases I would say no. A bear punching you is like getting a huge rock thrown at your face by a catapult, even plate armour won't help you there. It would help against his claws and some of the bites however but against blunt attacks steel plate and mail aren't very useful, thus the invention of the mace and warhammer.
@joekurtz6587
@joekurtz6587 8 жыл бұрын
bluephoenix222 i see , welp guess i do have to take a gun in wood walks
@SpaceMarine113
@SpaceMarine113 8 жыл бұрын
+Paul Alvarez bear hit is like a blunt weapon, only a lot stronger. Armour doesnt save you from breaking neck or a concussion, or internal bleeding.
@Avandol
@Avandol 8 жыл бұрын
+Paul Alvarez Actually, since he does wear the arming doublet and the chain mail he's got a lot of padding going for him and yes, it would considerably lessen the impact of a bear paw hit. Maces and warhammers always target weak spots, the actual plate was pretty much impervious to most attacks. And will be to a hit by a bear paw. Additionally, a bear uses its claws and teeth and these wouldnt even scratch a plate armor (Ceratin < Steel). Overall, I'd say a full plate would save you from a bear if you are armed and able to defend. With the back exposed that would significantly reduce your chance to go unharmed. Also, the legs are only half protected. Without a weapon to drive the bear off you're gonna lose it, and fast. Armor or no armor. Wearing my own full gothic harness (Maximillian style) I hardly notice blows, but I wouldnt go up against a full blown grizzly bear. A black bear, maybe. I'd survive the experience, of that I am pretty sure. All of that is highly hypothetical though, since animal rights people use armor piercing rounds ;)
@7dayspking
@7dayspking 7 жыл бұрын
+bluephoenix222 You don't...know what the fuck you're talking about. Sorry for being so rude but wow, this unfortunate HEMA misconception is frustrating. Rigid armour is far superior protection to blunt force trauma than most Soft body armours...the vast majority of the energy from any *reasonable* impact will spread over the body of the armour...the only exception being in you're LYING ON THE GROUND with the weight bearing down on you. As for maces and warhammer...these are legal (in full weight.) in a variety of modern _full contact_ fighting competitions....unsurprisingly one mandatory safety requirement because of this is the inclusion of plate armour (padding is not sufficient, mail and padding is not sufficient...PLATE ARMOUR is required.).. I'm not saying these weapons are useless, blows from a mace and warhammer often disorient and hurt combatants, fractures sometimes occur and on some occasions people are knocked unconscious...however this seems to be just as likely to happen when on of the combatants turns themselves into a projectile and launches themselves shoulder first into their opponent...than a strike from one of the blunt instruments (despite the latter being significantly more common.) You're also greatly exaggerating a bear's swipe...neither a Lion nor a Tiger actually swipe with near as much energy as a *human* strikes with their hands (surprising, I know.) I'd imagine a bear would strike significantly harder than the two aforementioned but I don't imagine it'd be too far out of the realms of human striking force (which still can be deadly.) Plate armour would likely protect you from swipes...but would not protect you from the bear...bearing it's weight down onto...or would it magically allow you to lift the bear (if you push up against it or it drops it's weight down on you while you attempt to hold yourself up...expect a damaged neck, spine or both...) Going after bears in anything but a vehicle is a silly idea in the first place.
@simonburling3762
@simonburling3762 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, Do you think that you could sleep in the arming garments? If not how much time would be added to put them on, except the shoes.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
They're definitely comfortable enough to sleep in. They're not any less comfortable than normal medieval clothes. If you didn't have them on though, and you were literally just in underwear, it might take you another 5 minutes or so to get the hose on and lace up the doublet if you weren't rushing.
@yehudiel4588
@yehudiel4588 6 жыл бұрын
How much would a custom fitted armor set like this cost? (i won't buy but i'm just really curious, just searching on google gives wildly varying prices so i'm asking for the price of something like this specifically)
@zamoutague199
@zamoutague199 6 жыл бұрын
Super cool! I'm looking to assemble my own kit, and I was wondering what sort of padding you have on your legs. Do you wear quilted chausses? Or just extra hose?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 6 жыл бұрын
No padding necessary under a well fitted leg harness. Just good hose, potentially with sewn in behind-the-knee mail voiders if you want more coverage.
@jennypoussin3866
@jennypoussin3866 8 жыл бұрын
You just allowed to get another nerd point at gaming so a big thanks for that video! i will be sure to show off that knowledge to fellow fantasy nerds! :)
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Jenny Poussin My pleasure! (I don't know if you changed something in google + but I can reply now :) )
@jennypoussin3866
@jennypoussin3866 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Cote I have a BIG nerd side! fantasy and gaming specially :) I've cosplayed fantasy looks many times but I fear they are the kind that are NOT historically accurate ... but I am learning since I started watching channels like Matt (scholagladiatora) and now Ian's :)
@malnutritionboy
@malnutritionboy 8 жыл бұрын
+Jenny Poussin You need to sign up to google plus to allow others to reply
@ironmaiden3842
@ironmaiden3842 6 жыл бұрын
I love you Jenny!!
@sarahsayshello9726
@sarahsayshello9726 6 жыл бұрын
Can all the straps be done by oneself? I have quite long arms and am able to reach all points of my back so just wana check, also when buying a suit is it best to buy pieces singularly or buy a set online or find a Smith and go in person? Or what? I would like a nice suit of full plate someday so I mean hey you guys are more experienced than me here
@declanmcgavin1414
@declanmcgavin1414 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks this is cool
@lazyismore
@lazyismore 8 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant Hi! great video! thanks! it looks like there are no major protections for the genitalia area? it is not that an easy spot and very vulnerable area to hit during a battle?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Alberto Pozzoli Thanks Alberto! Here's my video on groin armor and protection, this should hopefully answer some of your questions - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7t9mc15prS2hqs.html
@lazyismore
@lazyismore 8 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant thanks so much! it perfectly answers my question!
@mrredeef
@mrredeef 8 жыл бұрын
Nice, very informative, and holy cow, I just realized your whole back is unprotected. Did the english really do that if they'd already gotten to this point of completion in their armor set? I could see how it would make the suit alot more comfortable though.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+mrredeef Don't forget, mail is protection. As far as not wearing a backplate, my armor needs to be passable for pre-1400 as well (my Living History club also does 1380s) and there is no definitive evidence for full rigid backplates in the 14th century. Rigid back defense in the 14th century comes in the form of coats of plates, or wrapper plates on things like Churburg #13 etc. Solid 14th century breastplates, if they did not include wrapper plates, are depicted like mine, with criss-crossing straps in the back, worn over a full mail shirt like this example (lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ZiqTESZvICI/UnoJRZUz68I/AAAAAAAABQ4/IrbvT-UXz4c/w1633-h1225-no/IMG_7032.JPG). If I get a full cuirass with a solid backplate, it would only be suitable for early 15th century and beyond.
@Cahirable
@Cahirable 8 жыл бұрын
How long do you think you could fight in your armour? I'm seen figures as low as two minutes, but I just can't picture that being realistic, given the length of some battles during the mid-late 14th century and into the 15th century.
@giboranak
@giboranak 7 жыл бұрын
the metatron sends his regards. splendidly done. also, on a side note. i am writing a fantasy novel and i would love for some pointers on day to day casual wear in the 10th-15th century period i am not a historian and most of my historic knowledge is based on videos such as this and some reading. if you could be so kind as to point me in the right direction i would be much obliged.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you and welcome to the channel! Fashion changes pretty drastically over that 500 year period. Do you have a specific 'feel' you're going for? One of the biggest fashion shifts in medieval history takes place in the 1340s. If you want a basic overview, you may want to check out this book (although I think some of the information on arming garments specifically is outright wrong, the civilian clothing section is a pretty good intro) :www.revivalclothing.com/thebookofhistoricfashion.aspx
@giboranak
@giboranak 7 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant i will look into it. thank you very much. i am trying to give the feeling that various races(elves, dwarves etc.) with various life spans and little contact with one another can have a very different "fashion" sense if that makes any logic at all(elves wearing something in the lines of roman togas while humans are running around in britches and tunics more fitting with the medieval period)
@brokenursa9986
@brokenursa9986 7 жыл бұрын
I couldn't help but notice that, while your greaves and cuisses came in separate pieces, your pauldrons and vambraces were linked together and were put on as one piece. Is that something unique to your harness, or was that common on other sets of armor as well?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
It is a design feature specific to English style armors of the late 14th into the 15th centuries. If you're interested, here's more on the arms specifically: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q890jZZmxL_RY3U.html
@soundfxmaster
@soundfxmaster 5 жыл бұрын
What kind of knots do you use for the tie ins? I'm trying to make some gauntlets with removable strapping
@MrManifolder
@MrManifolder 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative. Now how much time would it take for a knyght to visit the john? (No footage necessary.)
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+MrManifolder Ha... well, some things you want to think about before you put your armor on if you can help it. But in all seriousness, going pee is pretty easy in my harness, everything is accessible. Doing anything more than that would require removing armor, but if you think about it, in war, you're just going to do what you have to do in your armor.
@MrManifolder
@MrManifolder 8 жыл бұрын
Haha I guess they don't call war hell for nothing... Even for the nose.
@HotSauce1v1
@HotSauce1v1 7 жыл бұрын
At what areas of the body do you feel the weight of the full kit? Are the words "harness" and "armor" used differently, and when do you use "harness" in a sentence? What is a harness in this context?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
'Harness' refers to the complete armor. Many of my other videos cover exactly how the weight of armor is distributed (I recommend the first half of this one for that information specifically: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aKxyY8qgqdeXaIU.html) or how much each component weighs, but in general a good portion of the weight is supported on the hips and waist. It's designed with proper load bearing in mind. If all the weight hung from the shoulders it would be too fatiguing.
@GeneralGiffel
@GeneralGiffel 2 жыл бұрын
I always think about the exposed leather. What would happen if something cut it off, wouldnt the armour just hang/fall off?
@mr31337
@mr31337 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. How long does it take for your wizard to memorise a fireball spell?
@fabledreamor
@fabledreamor 6 жыл бұрын
It took me about 10 seconds to put armor on Henry in Kingdom Come Deliverance.
@komradwide4660
@komradwide4660 3 жыл бұрын
How thick would an arming doublet be when wearing it together with both mail and plate armour? I was looking at steel-mastery but I'm confused as to how many layers of padding I should get, they did recommend 2-3 layers for if I wanted to have plate armour on but I also wanted to have mail on so maybe just have 2 layers or is 3 layers still fine because I would really want as much thickness as possible??? Need help oof.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 3 жыл бұрын
It's a difficult question to answer because it depends so heavily on the weight of the individual fabric layers. What you want to avoid is a lot of 'padding.' You don't need it under properly fit armor. There's a tendency for modern reeanctors to use way too much padding under their armor, often because a lot of modern armor doesn't fit right, so they make up for it with padding. 2-3 layers of a stout fabric, quilted tightly should be enough to be strong enough to point armor too, but not too thick. Keep in mind that you can use different amounts of layers in different places. So maybe the upper chest and shoulders where the armor makes contact with the body can be 3 layers, and 2 in other places that are less subject to wear and tear. It's one of those things you have to experiment with once you've chosen a fabric.
@komradwide4660
@komradwide4660 3 жыл бұрын
@@KnyghtErrant thank you for the info
@braianramos4048
@braianramos4048 6 жыл бұрын
hey,i have a question,do you oiled or engrase your chainmail to avoid oxydation? cause i have one but it have too much oil and stain my gambeson,i read that i can wash it and dry off well with hot watter, but with out the oil,time will rust it. What you recomend?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 6 жыл бұрын
Here's my guide: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r5iJapiaqdu5inU.html
@DorkVader01
@DorkVader01 6 жыл бұрын
I’d like to buy armor for blunt sword fighting I’d prefer the cheapest but best for the buck any website suggestions
@benj6670
@benj6670 5 жыл бұрын
Do you normally not wear chausses (maille or padded) with the plate protection for your legs? If so, would it be normal for Knights of the period (late 14th/early 15th century) to also not wear additional leg protection? I'd of thought the chausses would provide needed protection for the backs of your legs?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 5 жыл бұрын
There is no evidence for wearing padding underneath leg harness, it's not really necessary. For the inside and back of the legs, most leg harness is intended to be worn on horseback, so the flanks of the horse are protecting those areas. On leg harness intended for foot combat, we do sometimes see evidence of mail voiders, small patches of mail attached to the underlying hose, that fill in the gaps where the inside of the joint might be exposed and vulnerable, but this is not a universal.
@benj6670
@benj6670 5 жыл бұрын
@@KnyghtErrant Gotcha, thanks for the response.
@VRichardsn
@VRichardsn 7 жыл бұрын
Do you happen to own a Gothic plate, or have some plans of acquiring one in the future?
@mangalores-x_x
@mangalores-x_x 8 жыл бұрын
is it correct to have no back plate? Maybe it became only essential against musket fire but I thought you would want a front and back plate interlocking with each other so a lance or musket ball strike would actually transfer its energy around the person inside the armor instead of onto it.
@mangalores-x_x
@mangalores-x_x 8 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant Just checked your Great Bascinet video so possible that the necessity for this kind of backplate might be connected to the increased power of a lance impact or even later to redirect the shock of a gunpowder weapon and before would be just considered added weight. But thx for the reply! Your videos go into great detail on the what, when and why.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't necessarily draw that conclusion. They were definitely concerned with rigid protection for the back prior to the 15th century, it just took forms other than a solid backplate. Even the solid breastplate was relatively new in the late 14th century, the backplate just lagged behind a little bit. Smaller plates for the back were pretty comon. Omitting a backplate entirely was just a valid historical alternative that I chose to go with to demonstrate something other than a coat of plates.
@mangalores-x_x
@mangalores-x_x 8 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant Yes, I specifically meant the idea of the back and front plate being locked into each other to create a kind of cage around the wearer. As I take it that idea was even later, maybe actually more beyond your described time frame. I'll have to check up on that..
@RockmeHellsing
@RockmeHellsing 6 жыл бұрын
this is a freakin nice mail underneath, and the armor looks very good too late (15th century, italian Style i guess), iam an reeanactor for years now, but im not very good in crafting things for myself so i have a problem. My legplates dont fit me 100% because they are a stadart size and i havnet found a way to make it more confortable to wear them. I knot them on my trowsers and hold this up with a gauntlet, but its still even with padding unconfortable because the weight sits on my legs but i want it more centered above my hips, what can i do to transfer the waight better?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 6 жыл бұрын
Here's my video on historical leg harness suspension, my personal preference is the textile arming girdle discussed therein (lendenier) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z9Wkgc-KzL6YlXU.html
@ParanoeX
@ParanoeX 6 жыл бұрын
i actually underestimated how long it would take.. everyone always says that it takes a year and a half to put on an armor but i thought they were overestimating it.. (well.. of course if someone would've said one and a half year..) but.. people usually say it takes a half an hour to a whole hour.. i thought i'd be 5 minutes.. but i didn't think how many straps there are and how difficult they are to tighten.. but this is just one example and things might differ, as you said in the video.. but i dont see there being much more or much less pieces to put on and the straps are never going to be as easy as velcro.. though, why not make a modern day knight armor with velcro :D
@kamhyde40
@kamhyde40 7 жыл бұрын
This may be a strange ? but the groin seemed a little vulnerable? Would there have been groin protection beyond what the the mail skirt provides?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Here's a video dedicated to that subject if you'd like: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7t9mc15prS2hqs.html
@alexdiamond3987
@alexdiamond3987 6 жыл бұрын
Wow nice armor m8!
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