How Many Cards Can I Steal w/ Tergrid & Waste Not in Explorer? | Magic: the Gathering (MTG)

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MTGGoldfish

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Жыл бұрын

Thanks to Geier Reach Sanitarium coming to MTG Arena in Shadows Over Innistrad Remastered both Waste Not and Tergrid, God of Fright have gotten a ton better! Is there a competitive Explorer deck built around using the land to steal permanents with Tergrid and trigger Waste Not every turn? Let's find out!
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@thecrazycapn
@thecrazycapn Жыл бұрын
You can tell Seth really enjoys a deck when in the wrap-up he shows you he's played 35 matches with it.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
Lol, yeah, I played this one a lot for fun.
@thecrazycapn
@thecrazycapn Жыл бұрын
Watching the Lantern half of Tergrid just bully someone out of the game was pretty impressive. Save an infinite mana combo, it's always seemed pretty lackluster. Nice to see it do such heavy lifting.
@kirillm2517
@kirillm2517 Жыл бұрын
I really like the stats segments you've been adding. It gives good context for how the deck plays.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a good way to show the interesting matches in the video but still give people a complete picture of how the deck played. I think I'll start doing it more often.
@aramfingal
@aramfingal Жыл бұрын
You buried the lead Seth! This is actually Lantern Control in Explorer! :D
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
If only we could see the top of the opponent's deck!
@LadyMapi
@LadyMapi Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of one of the first casual decks I ever built that wasn't just "a pile of loosely connected cards that I own". It was a mono-black deck that forced my opponent to draw cards so that Liliana's Caress and Waste Not would always be "on". This was LONG before I had any idea of how to build a deck, so I was running stuff like Gnat Miser (because then they'd discard more cards to hand-size!) and Sangromancer (because lifegain is super good, right?). It had, quite literally, no targeted discard or ways to deal with anything that my opponent played. Good times.
@TheChowderhead
@TheChowderhead Жыл бұрын
Hey Editor - the audio seems a bit off on this one. Giving you a heads up!
@Totosliderz
@Totosliderz Жыл бұрын
bro thanks for this, I thought my ears were dying again
@switchninja1426
@switchninja1426 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but they were trying
@ArkAngel_45
@ArkAngel_45 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I wondered if Seth fell down a well. Thanks for confirming I'm not insane.
@garjira3134
@garjira3134 Жыл бұрын
unfortunately it seems like it might be his cam mic or something, may be that’s the only audio they have 😬 Vids still enjoyable 🤷‍♂️
@kylarcheng1346
@kylarcheng1346 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like there was background noise, and the editor filtered out most of it, but made seth sound a little funky too
@TheArbieo
@TheArbieo Жыл бұрын
I so wanted you to run into the tamiyo which prevents sac&discard like your opponent did in that one against the odds episode.
@ZackSavage
@ZackSavage Жыл бұрын
that sounds hilarious
@TheArbieo
@TheArbieo Жыл бұрын
It's the tamiyo tribal one
@HyperactiveSloth79
@HyperactiveSloth79 Жыл бұрын
You just destroy Tamiyo. Discard decks should only be built with plenty of removal or, as is my preference, bounce spells. Tamiyo can't hurt you if she doesn't exist.
@TheArbieo
@TheArbieo Жыл бұрын
This deck basically only had edict based removal though 😛 cant sac
@jms4979
@jms4979 Жыл бұрын
I knew about the phases and stuff, but I'm not sure I would have put forth the effort to Eiganjo at the correct time. So glad I witnessed that blowout instead of happening to me, I will be sure not to be lazy in the future lol
@gabrote42
@gabrote42 Жыл бұрын
Waste Not was a real treat to the community. Wish more fan cards made it in
@benpouy3345
@benpouy3345 Жыл бұрын
I'm liking the new lantern control
@richardcondon8210
@richardcondon8210 Жыл бұрын
Hey Seth. Just made Mythic for the first time using a variation on this deck. Thanks for all the amazing content and fun ideas!
@ryangainey94
@ryangainey94 Жыл бұрын
Go Blank and Leyline of the Void seem really bad here since it stops you stealing things... Cling to Dust is fine and so might be Unlicensed Hearse though. That way you can run grave hate versus the important things a grave deck will care about returning, while not hosing your own Tergrid.
@derHexenhammer
@derHexenhammer Жыл бұрын
I like the lantern win better. No one see it coming
@DaveBerryForPresident
@DaveBerryForPresident Жыл бұрын
I have been running with a deck like this for a while; thanks for the tip on the new piece!
@SupremeChalupaSnoke
@SupremeChalupaSnoke Жыл бұрын
Instant classic. One of my favorite Goldfish decks to date 🏮🏮🏮 gotta love lantern control 😂
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@davidcochran6974
@davidcochran6974 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes the lantern feels stronger than Tergrid herself. Emphasis on sometimes.
@anuragk3842
@anuragk3842 Жыл бұрын
yeah, lantern works on its own whereas tergrid needs support from other cards.
@EdensukoV
@EdensukoV Жыл бұрын
Most times I win with tergrid is using the lantern.
@BoshiYoshi
@BoshiYoshi Жыл бұрын
The addition of Sanitarium made me so happy. I've been trying to force Waste Not/Tinybones decks in HIstoric ever since they were added, but it's always the same. I run my opponent out of cards, then I draw dead discard while my opponent topdecks their way out of it and eventually beats me. Sanitarium solves so much of that problem. Still hoping we get Liliana's Caress, The Rack and/or Shrieking Affliction soon.
@HyperactiveSloth79
@HyperactiveSloth79 Жыл бұрын
That's why I started splashing blue and bouncing their cards back into their hand so I can make them discard it. 😁 Solves the problem of removal AND empty hand at the same time.
@BoshiYoshi
@BoshiYoshi Жыл бұрын
@@HyperactiveSloth79 Reminds me of when I first started playing Magic and had a fun deck built around Warped Devotion with a playset of Recoils.
@MakeVarahHappen
@MakeVarahHappen Жыл бұрын
In match 1, game 1, it's possible they did that because they wanted the reduction to do something in main phase 2.
@chucklebutt4470
@chucklebutt4470 Жыл бұрын
Leyline seems bad to bring in
@sanfranfan53
@sanfranfan53 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love seeing Tergrid do Tergrid things! Pure malice! The Lantern win was delicious!
@LegoCowManZ
@LegoCowManZ Жыл бұрын
Now that's an echo!
@henrye3935
@henrye3935 Жыл бұрын
I used to play B/R Waste Not with 4x Burning Inquiry. Was awesome.
@ther3aper561
@ther3aper561 Жыл бұрын
That mono green second game when the op didn't run very well. They also chose to keep a 1 lander with a bunch of mana dorks against a black deck with known removal, so the deck definitely still flexed on em
@georgiopapakonstantinou1580
@georgiopapakonstantinou1580 Жыл бұрын
Loved the game 1 we had played and enjoyed watching the deck perform
@4lc4p0rn
@4lc4p0rn Жыл бұрын
so i tried out the deck after having been on a several months long loosing streak, fell from mythic to stuck in gold, and couldnt figure out wtf i was doing wrong. almost gave up on arena. well, 6-3 in the first 9 games so far, and im having fun playing magic again for the first time in a loooooong time. felt like i actually had an answer to all the damn shenanigans.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I'm glad you are enjoying it.
@AtrociousNightmare
@AtrociousNightmare Жыл бұрын
Brilliant addition of the Sanitarium, I didn't think of it!
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
It makes the plan sooo much better.
@FrontLineMarine84
@FrontLineMarine84 8 ай бұрын
I'm kinda new to arena and with all the codes I got and some extra packs I got for free I was able to build most of a version of this deck. I spent a couple dollars to finish it out and I have to say my w/l ratio has improved significantly. Love this deck
@TheREALTheRealAdam
@TheREALTheRealAdam Жыл бұрын
Tergrid is big and flashy, but just being able to repeatedly Torment of Scarabs multiple times per turn tends to just get people with how deceptively strong it is.
@zmaster1481
@zmaster1481 Жыл бұрын
Ive run a list thats very similar for almost a year now. Phyrexian obliterator and the tinybones the trinket thief are must haves for this archetype
@garethNP
@garethNP Жыл бұрын
Prof Seth teaching us proper spell casting through phasing 😍
@rickroller420
@rickroller420 11 сағат бұрын
Winning a game entirely with lantern is incredible
@elliot7742
@elliot7742 Жыл бұрын
Just played my first game with this deck and it's very fun.
@adamtobiasz8793
@adamtobiasz8793 Жыл бұрын
Another great episode brother Set. 😊😊😊😊😊😊
@anthonyellison5998
@anthonyellison5998 Жыл бұрын
I got to say that second game I definitely wouldn’t of bought it in the graveyard heat the rest of the deck just seems so good with what the opponents trying to do. I would’ve just lean really hard into the discord outlets, because unlike with every other graveyard, Jack Rakdos doesn’t win on the spot with the graveyards you’re just using it for value, which means you can afford to let them use the gravy in a little bit and just punish them for the rest of their gameplay and what you’re really doing is cutting yourself off of using their value engines for yourself like you did in the first game
@edwinortiz1262
@edwinortiz1262 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Leyline was not the move. Whenever he got Tergrid her ability was useless.
@HyperactiveSloth79
@HyperactiveSloth79 Жыл бұрын
I've been playing discard decks for a while. My solution to the opponent ending up with an empty hand has been to play Dimir so that instead of using removal spells I bounce cards into their hand to make them discard it. Rona's Vortex, Blink of an Eye, Discovery // Dispersal etc. are awesome! ...not to mention River's Rebuke for a sweeper.
@andreaspauls2472
@andreaspauls2472 Жыл бұрын
Boy game 2 was pure torture. I get play to your outs but that guy was toast!
@TheZombiewaffles
@TheZombiewaffles Жыл бұрын
id love a deck just based around the lantern side and free/cheap untaps for the lantern
@AutkastKain
@AutkastKain Жыл бұрын
That eiganjo play is why I always wait when I'm not just toilet gaming
@Midnightv
@Midnightv Жыл бұрын
This looks so fun
@davidcrawford5324
@davidcrawford5324 2 ай бұрын
Instead of the Sanitarium you can also just run with Forced Fruition making them refill their hands on every spell cast. If you ran a Jin-Gitraxias to force their hand size down to 0 you'd gain ALL the cards every time they casted a spell. Add in a Grave Pact forcing them to sacrifice creatures whenever your creatures die or are otherwise placed into the graveyard from your own sacrificing effects. If you are running Zombie tribal, you can add in a Grave Betrayal which will do the same thing Tergrid does for creatures only, but it adds a +1/+1 counter onto it and makes it a zombie so that it benefits from all zombie buffing lords (if you have any) Round it all off with Virtue of Persistence or Debtor's Knell or Sheoldred, Whispering One which all let you grab creatures from the graveyard and put them directly into play during your upkeep. In Sheoldred's case it applies to only your GY but it forces them to sacrifice creatures also thus fueling your deck even more. At that point NOTHING would remain dead and the GY would be totally bereft of creatures in just a few turns lol
@Rococo478
@Rococo478 Жыл бұрын
Waste Not, an old wishlist mainstay I never got my hands onto :')
@lordchaos7770
@lordchaos7770 Жыл бұрын
this deck has tergridy
@SireBab
@SireBab Жыл бұрын
Why is during the game around 38:00 you played tergrid as a lantern instead of her body? Wouldn't her God form be more damage and value per turn?
@squidsy2260
@squidsy2260 Жыл бұрын
Two of my favorite cards finally being used in a video, this is great! I just wish I could watch it with the sound on without getting violently and irrationally annoyed at the way he talks. :(
@JDPetersonFLA
@JDPetersonFLA Жыл бұрын
I feel like that leyline of the void was overkill vs cat oven
@arlopaden9794
@arlopaden9794 Жыл бұрын
When did Seth start recording in a well?
@taylor3621
@taylor3621 Жыл бұрын
Surprised no one has asked about the play area in game 2. What's up with that? Haven't played Arena in a while.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
That was a special April fools battlefield.
@lobes117
@lobes117 Жыл бұрын
Man, things started popping off at 15:25 lolol
@shadowofseattle1338
@shadowofseattle1338 5 ай бұрын
I NEED TO SEE YOU DO TIMELESS TERGRID
@nicktopete6932
@nicktopete6932 Жыл бұрын
Just a heads up go blank and tergrid are a nonbo
@matthewbarratt4935
@matthewbarratt4935 Жыл бұрын
So is this what they mean by Lantern Control?
@aaronw1026
@aaronw1026 Жыл бұрын
Ok this deck is sick
@rayzeckz4573
@rayzeckz4573 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Seth
@thesamuraiman
@thesamuraiman Жыл бұрын
I love Tergrid. This is exciting.
@Crusina
@Crusina Жыл бұрын
In 1v1 she seems very fair
@goblinKingCR
@goblinKingCR Жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man: I see Seth's thumbnail, I press like
@davidhansen5067
@davidhansen5067 Жыл бұрын
Oh hey, Seth has heard of Trampled By Turtles!
@Alex_Simpson711
@Alex_Simpson711 Жыл бұрын
I want you seth to see if you can make this deck in pioneer or modern
@edwinortiz1262
@edwinortiz1262 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this deck. Is it valid to win in fnm?
@tolerateit13
@tolerateit13 Жыл бұрын
The Crimm-iest seth deck ever
@ohno5559
@ohno5559 Жыл бұрын
Tergrid doesn't really shut down cat-oven since all they need is one extra food and they can just bring it back in response to Tergrid. Great against most of the deck, though.
@homebrewed
@homebrewed Жыл бұрын
Get that Leyline out of there sir!! HRUMPH!
@chester1882
@chester1882 Жыл бұрын
Everything here is legal in Pioneer. Not sure how it would match up against the different meta game but it would be fun :)
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
Yeah, my inspiration for this deck was actually someone going 5-0 in a Pioneer league on MTGO so I think i can work in Pioneer too with minimal changes.
@kowagaruwolf320
@kowagaruwolf320 Жыл бұрын
I have to say, green devotion and greasefang players looks like they are usually mindlessly going through the motions. As soon as something that is not in their flowchart, they just break and stop working despite still having options
@theomnipotent9402
@theomnipotent9402 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t leyline and tergrid a non-bo?
@rodrigodepaula4198
@rodrigodepaula4198 Жыл бұрын
Until now I can't belive Mayhem Devil is an uncommon.
@xtremistdude92
@xtremistdude92 Жыл бұрын
Wait couldn't he still have responded with power word kill in response to the eiganjo even if he casted eiganjo after combat damage was dealt?
@poiri
@poiri Жыл бұрын
No because Adeline would have been dead, though if damage had happened then Sheoldred would have been dead as well instead of just Adeline
@xtremistdude92
@xtremistdude92 Жыл бұрын
​@@poiri thanks, I was a little confused on what he said
@njnjhjh8918
@njnjhjh8918 Жыл бұрын
That's my idea of a good time
@dracish123456789
@dracish123456789 Жыл бұрын
it is a shame they never tried monomountain gruul. No one expects the WB sideboard
@frogpizza
@frogpizza Жыл бұрын
get em
@HomeCookinMTG
@HomeCookinMTG Жыл бұрын
in the game @ 45:00 I'm not sure why your opponent bothered wasting a mode on bring sheoldred back, couldn't he have made you discard and shot you for 2?
@maxiewawa
@maxiewawa Жыл бұрын
5:13 I understand Seth's explanation but what has gone so badly? Opponent is hoping 4 damage from Eiganjo and 1 from token kills Sheoldred, but Seth Power Word Kills Adeline, blocks&kills token and keeps Sheoldred. What does End Of Combat phase have to do with it?
@maxiewawa
@maxiewawa Жыл бұрын
Oh forget it, I understand, opponent should have waited until Adeline damaged Sheoldred, until End Of Combat to use Eiganjo, because if Seth had a combat trick opponent would lose both Eiganjo and Adeline.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. The opponent was going to lose Adeline either way, but if they had waited to use Eigango until after the damage was dealt they would have made sure they killed Sheoldred because Power Word Kill wouldn't do anything. Since they used it before damage we got to kill the Adeline and keep Sheoldred.
@slymcfly123
@slymcfly123 Жыл бұрын
How did Tergrid steal Oven?
@ephraimsedjro9569
@ephraimsedjro9569 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I'm from France and I love yours decks.... I just have one question, can you tell me the sentence you say right after you say hello everyone 😅 since English is not my language it's a bit difficult to understand everything you say. Thank you 😊
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
"Hello everyone it's Seth, probably better known as Saffron Olive"
@ephraimsedjro9569
@ephraimsedjro9569 Жыл бұрын
​@@MTGGoldfish Thank you 😊
@nickna7387
@nickna7387 Жыл бұрын
love that theres 1 more sheoldred in the deck than tergrid
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
It's really good with all of our random card draw.
@123R1CC
@123R1CC Жыл бұрын
I love Seth aka saffron olive.
@YohWolf
@YohWolf Жыл бұрын
I don't think boarding in leyline was good in the sacrifice matchup
@anthonymentalewicz5143
@anthonymentalewicz5143 Жыл бұрын
Shrieking affliction please come sooner.
@normative
@normative Жыл бұрын
Ok this is incredibly stupid but it somehow bugs me every time: “Aspirant” is “ASS-per-runt” (as in “aspiration”) not “uh-SPY-runt” (like in “aspire”)
@matthewlohmeier2056
@matthewlohmeier2056 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations! You fell for one of the oldest KZfaqr tricks in the book. Mispronounced words to get comments for the algorithm.
@DctrJimbo
@DctrJimbo Жыл бұрын
Ah so this is what they meant by Lantern Control
@Midnightv
@Midnightv Жыл бұрын
Bruh this is doooooppppeeew
@AngelCrea7er
@AngelCrea7er Жыл бұрын
Is the audio echoing for anyone else?
@everydaykronicler9974
@everydaykronicler9974 Жыл бұрын
This deck needs two copies of Mirror Box
@Zilvermonkey
@Zilvermonkey Жыл бұрын
Eiganjo- eye gon joe
@matthewlohmeier2056
@matthewlohmeier2056 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations! You fell for one of the oldest KZfaqr tricks in the book. Mispronounced words to get comments for the algorithm.
@homebrewed
@homebrewed Жыл бұрын
Crim is that you?
@lenajohnson6179
@lenajohnson6179 Жыл бұрын
Get rid of the leyline. Your deck wants stuff out of their graveyard, let it commit to the thing. If that means on rare occasion something beats you from their graveyard so be it, but it's basically ALWAYS going to shut down the way you plan to win
@maciek19882
@maciek19882 Жыл бұрын
Not many. If it doesn't work -it doesn't, If it works - they scoop
@andymccoy8393
@andymccoy8393 Жыл бұрын
This is an extremely Crim deck
@alexandrejesus8709
@alexandrejesus8709 Жыл бұрын
I also hate mayhem devil top decks, it always happens
@wpmer
@wpmer Жыл бұрын
Shut up and take my rares arena😤
@donald8371
@donald8371 Жыл бұрын
Aye-gone-joe. Jesus Christ.
@mistysowards7365
@mistysowards7365 Жыл бұрын
Sweeeeeet
@turnipy88
@turnipy88 Жыл бұрын
Mic is really echoey
@DefinitelyDave
@DefinitelyDave Жыл бұрын
Meow
@kaleu66
@kaleu66 Жыл бұрын
Leyline was horrible.
@MemoryLaneWizard
@MemoryLaneWizard Жыл бұрын
Ugh, please bring back MTGO formats!
@josephcourtright8071
@josephcourtright8071 Жыл бұрын
Still hate that Tergrid even exists. The goal of that deck was always to get both players top decking as quickly as possible. Make it a pure luck game, such fun.
@KalosPVP
@KalosPVP Жыл бұрын
Its fake voice guy!
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
That's Mr Fake Voice Guy to you.
@livanbard
@livanbard Жыл бұрын
I will be honest those arena contructed formats are very boring.
@RatRatham
@RatRatham Жыл бұрын
Way too much arena content.
@moonbar_
@moonbar_ Жыл бұрын
The future is now
@KnicKnac
@KnicKnac Жыл бұрын
MtG:O is a janky excel sheet so…
@phatpeople1234
@phatpeople1234 Жыл бұрын
Say it with me Seth (pbkaSO) eye-gone-joe
@matthewlohmeier2056
@matthewlohmeier2056 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations! You fell for one of the oldest KZfaqr tricks in the book. Mispronounced words to get comments for the algorithm.
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