Is Capricious Hellraiser Good, Actually? | Standard Magic: the Gathering (MTG)

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How good is Capricious Hellraiser in Standard? Let's go all in on it and find out!
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@natejablonski
@natejablonski Жыл бұрын
"We don't have the colors for Atraxa" as he cycles a Jetmir's Garden by sacrificing treasure
@cuddlequeen3225
@cuddlequeen3225 7 ай бұрын
Lohl
@S4DC4T
@S4DC4T 4 ай бұрын
LMFAO
@dragaunas
@dragaunas Жыл бұрын
Surprised that unlicensed hearse is not in the main deck as a way to exile lands from your graveyard to improve your chances of getting a good spell
@CMClaudio1989
@CMClaudio1989 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of the lion's sash
@brushwagg7735
@brushwagg7735 Жыл бұрын
@@CMClaudio1989 Hearse is more mana efficient. Especially if you need RRR to get going.
@dragaunas
@dragaunas Жыл бұрын
@@CMClaudio1989 i forgot about lion sash, it is not as mana efficient but has the upside of being a mana dump
@provostparkpass
@provostparkpass Жыл бұрын
Hello everyone it's Seth probably better known as Saffron "He'll tear your soul apart" Olive
@brossjackson
@brossjackson Жыл бұрын
Ruler of the Sethobites, summoned by a puzzle booster box
@keinishikawa4159
@keinishikawa4159 Жыл бұрын
It's always great seeing one of my favorite KZfaqr commenting on another favorite KZfaqr's video. 🤩
@FrankDTank16
@FrankDTank16 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure you punted almost every atraxa. You should be able to select a creature as well as an artifact creature. Multiple times you selected either an artifact or a creature.
@brushwagg7735
@brushwagg7735 Жыл бұрын
Hey, it’s not like the button and all the card outlines are a cool, muted blue before you make all possible selections and turn bright, glowing orange after you’ve finished.
@petrsevcik5044
@petrsevcik5044 Жыл бұрын
You mean that "creature" is also a card type? :D
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
Apparently Atraxa is good enough you can not choose a creature and still win!
@dracish123456789
@dracish123456789 Жыл бұрын
forgot the scrap with atraxia at the mid point. You can take an artifact and a creature. So many times. Even if you don't understand the card a blue glowy option means you can select it
@vexion42
@vexion42 Жыл бұрын
Not even the worst... @45:18 Seth didn't take a Portal to Phyrexia because he just saw Cityscape Leveler with Portal and Mightstone and Weakstone as "all of our big artifacts." So he *only* took Cityscape Leveler. :(
@henrye3935
@henrye3935 Жыл бұрын
@@vexion42 lol literally just noticed this, paused and rewound, then came to the comments to see if I missed something.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
Huh, I'll have to look for the glowy blue next time :)
@jekanyika
@jekanyika Жыл бұрын
Jace was not popular during previews but now it's in quite a lot of decks, and Seth seem to rate it pretty highly.
@beeaggro2593
@beeaggro2593 Жыл бұрын
Hellraiser too. A lot of big meta decks are just running either of them
@richardmoneypenny4159
@richardmoneypenny4159 Жыл бұрын
I built this deck and it is amazing. I have some really good matches under my belt and have found several strategies to win. Mill with Jace, copy a lot of the mirror breaker, beat them to death with creatures, and/or control the field and take their creatures with portal. I made some changes to the deck. I do not like Might Stone and Weak Stone in the deck. More times then not, as in your video, it seems like you are holding it. I switched that for a Nahiri. I feel like she brings more utility to the table, and she can bring back a Hellraiser from the yard to get another activation and damage.
@12triproberts
@12triproberts Жыл бұрын
I like this deck because it's almost a weird kinda budget if you've been on Arena for a while. It's like a trade-binder deck in that the one or two-of power cards might already be in your collection from random packs.
@thecrazycapn
@thecrazycapn Жыл бұрын
If you have an empty graveyard, you could always ult the Jace for mill 15, then have it be the card you Hellraiser back for another mill 15.
@jeremysmith4620
@jeremysmith4620 Жыл бұрын
I've been playing mono R Hellraiser with Portal and it is so fun. Even when you yank a free removal spell or Koth it still feels real nice. It is just feels good to play, like a slot machine that can kill your opponents, what's not to love? Keeps standard grinding from getting dull.
@billyallen6357
@billyallen6357 Жыл бұрын
Played against a Hellraiser deck in explorer when the set first came out and it blew my mind! I think it's a pretty solid card. The fact you made it viable in a set with a significantly less card pool is impressive
@Schpacky
@Schpacky Жыл бұрын
Great stuff Seth! Love you man keep up the great content!
@javgamer722
@javgamer722 Жыл бұрын
37:00 Has nobody mentioned the fact that Seth said a 3/10 chance was 10%?
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
30% of the time it works 10% of the time ;)
@clvssi
@clvssi Жыл бұрын
When I saw hellraiser I tried to make a deck that could control what is brought back, and I think I did pretty good
@Level_1_Frog
@Level_1_Frog Жыл бұрын
YOU OPENED THE BOX (of Phyrexia: All Will Be One) AND WE CAME!
@kithkindeck
@kithkindeck Жыл бұрын
.Intro edit game is ON POINT as usual.
@jasondeerman4647
@jasondeerman4647 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see Seth at the pro tour, playing stuff like this.
@bigtimetimmyjim6486
@bigtimetimmyjim6486 Жыл бұрын
The third win was really impressive, I really like the concept of that WG Norn deck, but its incremental value just could not keep up when you got Hellraisers.
@jrjamesson
@jrjamesson Жыл бұрын
I admire you steadfastly sticking by "brother's-hood end"
@cris7468
@cris7468 Жыл бұрын
31:04 reaction was great xD
@LadyMapi
@LadyMapi Жыл бұрын
I had to pause on the first game, because *come on, Seth*. Why did you pitch two lands when you could've pitched a land and The Eternal Wanderer? EDIT: I feel like building around using Capricious Hellraiser's ETB to cheat out big stuff is a bit of a trap (as awesome trap, but still a trap). A 4/4 flyer that recasts an Abrade/Big Score/Reflections for RRR is an absurd midrange card.
@funkydiscogod
@funkydiscogod Жыл бұрын
I think it might have a home in Modern or Historic, with Ephemerate. I know Modern decks can easily get 9 cards in the graveyard by turn 4. Then, you cast it for the discount with 9 cards in the yard. It exiles 3. Ephemerate it to exile 3 more. On the Rebound, it'll exile the final 3 cards from your graveyard.
@lamiaprincess6371
@lamiaprincess6371 Жыл бұрын
This is certainly the most exciting way to play it, but yeah, it is probably better in a Grixis Shell or a Jund shell where its flinging removal spells and Unleash the Infernos / Invoke Despairs.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was one of my takeaways too. Even if your just recasting a random removal spell or Fable or whatever Hellraiser is pretty absurd.
@LadyMapi
@LadyMapi Жыл бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish Yeah, it's weird to me that we've been so poisoned by FIRE designs that a 4/4 flyer for 6 that can pretty reliably cost 3 less AND draws/casts a spell from your graveyard seems mediocre at first glance.
@Atmapalazzo
@Atmapalazzo Жыл бұрын
well another deck running eternal wanderer means it's time for my favorite drinking game: take a shot every time when farewell would have been a better card to have.
@latinkingzgl
@latinkingzgl Жыл бұрын
Missed creature off Atraxa at 33:25
@latinkingzgl
@latinkingzgl Жыл бұрын
45:32 missed artifact off Atraxa Just a tip guys. If the SUBMIT button from Atraxa is blue instead of gold, you still have more targets to select
@latinkingzgl
@latinkingzgl Жыл бұрын
56:00 Missed artifact off Atraxa
@justinmiller483
@justinmiller483 Жыл бұрын
An old rock song came to mind while watching this: Raise a Little Hell by the band Trooper :D Hellraiser is 100% gas in the right deck
@AlexGasol
@AlexGasol Жыл бұрын
Man your opening are getting better an better 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
@capricorncomplex
@capricorncomplex Жыл бұрын
The jund hellraiser list with 4 jund charms and 4 invokes looked interesting
@s0ulcancer
@s0ulcancer Жыл бұрын
Do you think a combo would work, where we cast Hellraiser for it's reduced cost and with it's ETB trigger on the stack use some instant speed activated ability (or spell) to empty our graveyard of undesirable cards?
@ADudeWhoExperiences1393
@ADudeWhoExperiences1393 Жыл бұрын
Could use the hearse in standard to get two undesirables. Turn the earthworks well too. In eternal formats there is grave consequences, flash if insight, crypt incursion, dig through time which seems nuts since you can hit it again and cast for free.
@Small_Panda
@Small_Panda Жыл бұрын
Seth just so you can understand how it atraxa works going forward When you get Cityscape leveler and portal to pharexia you can grab them both As cityscape leveler can be your creature and portal feraxia can be your Artifact
@dylanmiley5642
@dylanmiley5642 Жыл бұрын
Not super familiar w/ the meta in any format much less standard, but i really enjoy Seth's videos. Wondering to what degree Seth's decks + gameplay influence the kinds of decks played
@egon4564
@egon4564 Жыл бұрын
Any chance we could see a historic version of this deck?
@MaxMckayful
@MaxMckayful Жыл бұрын
I hope one day MtGGoldfish can send Seth to compete in and do a vlog about Infamous Small Japanese Tournament
@Randomperson-pk3ce
@Randomperson-pk3ce Жыл бұрын
At the 20ish minute mark, couldn’t you have discarded the cityscape leveler, and then attack for lethal by unearthing it?
@daviddent5662
@daviddent5662 Жыл бұрын
It seems there's two forge dergs that are good for a variety of high risk strategy they also kind of work together if you play pure artifact build. Do you think Hellraiser is good with renimator strats like Prototype or is it just too high a chance of a whiff?
@franksmith8298
@franksmith8298 Жыл бұрын
Ah the sweetest words in all of Against The Odds history: "SMALL JAPANESE TOURNAMENT" ❤️❤️❤️
@ernestosalinas1091
@ernestosalinas1091 Жыл бұрын
Seriously Atraxa should have an Arena special animation!!
@LolaliciousSmiley
@LolaliciousSmiley Жыл бұрын
Hello. Will you guys be posting any novel budget stuff for this season? Thanks for the cool videos.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
Yeah! The last couple of weeks have been strange, but budget magic returns Monday!
@LolaliciousSmiley
@LolaliciousSmiley Жыл бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish I'm looking forward to it! P.S. You gotta try a Mandible Justiciar unearth budget standard build. It's fun when you can force them into chumping your 6/5 lifelinker with their Sheoldred. I think at the very least it would make good content. Thanks for the response and be well!
@kirillm2517
@kirillm2517 Жыл бұрын
"Platinum/Mythic Ranked Player" was Seth all along O.o
@moonbar_
@moonbar_ Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't Brotherhood's End on the destroy artifacts mode worked well enough in M1G1?
@jamescooley5241
@jamescooley5241 Жыл бұрын
I think skitterbeam has 9 cmc and so do the copies
@moonbar_
@moonbar_ Жыл бұрын
@@jamescooley5241 I forgot about the copies keeping their mana cost yeah
@3rdtimesacharm84
@3rdtimesacharm84 Жыл бұрын
33:28 - Can anyone tell me if there is a reason not to put the mutt into hand for the "Creature" card type?
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
It was just a punt on my part. I was thinking we already had taken an artifact, but missed the fact that we could take it as a creature.
@3rdtimesacharm84
@3rdtimesacharm84 Жыл бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish ahh ok! I was trying to wrap my head around maybe playing around the card size in hand LOL 😂
@malcomchase9777
@malcomchase9777 Жыл бұрын
Is it me, or does Seth never actually stop himself from taking both an artifact and an artifact creature with Atraxa?
@Denjia
@Denjia Жыл бұрын
At 45:00 you could have also grabbed a portal because leveler is a creature 😔
@TheMegaMagikarp
@TheMegaMagikarp Жыл бұрын
Is there an effect in all of Magic that gives your spells Delve? There's that enchantment from Ikoria that pseudo-gives delve but that doesn't work with this card I don't think?
@natejablonski
@natejablonski Жыл бұрын
That card (Titans' Nest) is the only one I can find, and it's a "fixed" version of delve. Still can be made broken, but I don't think this would be a shell for it even if it was still in Standard.
@NMS127
@NMS127 Жыл бұрын
Titans' Nest seems to work, in the sense that you can exile all the cards you don't want to hit from your graveyard and use the mana to pay the generic part of Hellraiser's cost. The mana is a bit rough, with UBG followed by RRR.
@beanthebuilder
@beanthebuilder Жыл бұрын
Hellraiser + instant speed Delve in Pioneer gives you the best of both worlds, at the cost of a messy decklist
@ColemanYoutube
@ColemanYoutube Жыл бұрын
Wohoo challenge unlocked I made a Goldfish video. Too bad I lost 😞
@andymccoy8393
@andymccoy8393 Жыл бұрын
My favorite part was when Seth went “opponent has three cards in hand” when the opponent had four
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
Anything over three is a million :)
@VerlorentheLost
@VerlorentheLost Жыл бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish hrair, perhaps?
@jekanyika
@jekanyika Жыл бұрын
21:33 What a sad Farewell
@butdoesitscrub3457
@butdoesitscrub3457 Жыл бұрын
Lol that opening
@jackl8025
@jackl8025 Жыл бұрын
56:03 Seth only draw 4 off Atraxa when he could have drawn 5. Scrapwork Mutt counts as a creature, so he could have drawn the Portal to Phyrexia too. Not sure if it's technically incorrect since Hellraiser cares about graveyard. either way, Arena shows you how many you can choose at the top of the screen
@ADudeWhoExperiences1393
@ADudeWhoExperiences1393 Жыл бұрын
He does this like 3 times... almost everytime atraxa resolves 😂
@charlied8284
@charlied8284 Жыл бұрын
Punt McPunterson at it again
@sveltemax3606
@sveltemax3606 Жыл бұрын
Sure are a lot of folks sprinting to the comments to feel superior over Seth about Atraxa misplays on a video where he 5-0ed Deck looks sweet! I'm a pretty big fan of anything that's running Multiverse, I've been pretty impressed with it
@Grimlock2183
@Grimlock2183 Жыл бұрын
1:05:55 You're gonna WHAT????
@xLegendaryPete
@xLegendaryPete Жыл бұрын
still remember when Seth said jace was one of the worst rares in the set LOL
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
In hindsight I might have been a bit harsh Jace.
@jamesrule1338
@jamesrule1338 Жыл бұрын
We have such cards to show you...
@xenochronos1587
@xenochronos1587 Жыл бұрын
is there a specific reason why you don't choose an artifact and an artifactCREATURE with the atraxa trigger?
@EmilRyb
@EmilRyb Жыл бұрын
Can you please make a gleeful demolition modern deck
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
It's coming up soon for Budget Magic ;)
@Skibby22
@Skibby22 Жыл бұрын
Cool Hellraiser list! But no Arcane Bombardment?
@swampybwoy
@swampybwoy Жыл бұрын
Imagine winning after playing 2 fables on to an empty board 😜
@ther3aper561
@ther3aper561 Жыл бұрын
Idk if saf realizes he can take an artifact creature AND artifact with Atraxa? Multiple times he skipped over one or the other
@ther3aper561
@ther3aper561 Жыл бұрын
Then again I guess it's possible he chose not to because he'd have to discard after?
@HurricaneGregor
@HurricaneGregor Жыл бұрын
@@ther3aper561 Nah, he definitely thought he couldn't pick them. What makes it crazy is that the interface really points it out as well. Choose X cards in big letters, grays out cards after you've picked one of a type, keeps everything else highlighted, tells you how many you've chosen as a button... lol
@TheREALTheRealAdam
@TheREALTheRealAdam Жыл бұрын
Have you considered muting voices in Arena's setting? Hearing planeswalker lines awkwardly cutting out makes the editor cuts extra obvious.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
Yeah, maybe I'll mute the voice lines. I think the sound effects add a bit to the video, but voice lines being cut off awkwardly isn't great.
@mateuszlenart2186
@mateuszlenart2186 Жыл бұрын
My heart is bleeding after watch how atraxa resolves
@Linky609
@Linky609 Жыл бұрын
Wizards has printed way too many cheese reanimator effects the last few years.
@TheHuktuk
@TheHuktuk Жыл бұрын
how does hellraiser work in paper, the random graveyard part seems to force you to shuffle your grave but this action alone feels weird to me, anyone else ?
@natejablonski
@natejablonski Жыл бұрын
I recommend using a random number generator or rolling a die. Shuffling it can technically be a rules violation if the remaining cards aren't returned in the right order. It probably doesn't matter in Standard, Pioneer, or Modern, but it is a bigger concern in older formats.
@NMS127
@NMS127 Жыл бұрын
@@natejablonski According to the tournament rules, you can reorder your graveyard if you're playing a format that doesn't include cards from Urza's Saga or later. It also seems fine in casual as long as no one is playing graveyard order matters cards. But yes, you can't shuffle your graveyard in Legacy or Vintage.
@natejablonski
@natejablonski Жыл бұрын
@@NMS127 that makes more sense. Thanks for the clarification.
@lordmeep5803
@lordmeep5803 Жыл бұрын
Here for the real title of raising hell in standard, so sad it got changed lol
@chrishoye55
@chrishoye55 Жыл бұрын
SETH! BUDDY! YOU CAN GET LEVELER AND PORTAL!!
@raynmanshorts9275
@raynmanshorts9275 Жыл бұрын
Wait, they put Constantine in MTG?
@Zomburai45
@Zomburai45 Жыл бұрын
That's HellBLAZER
@CollanCampbell
@CollanCampbell Жыл бұрын
This is a mill deck especially vs control.
@dracish123456789
@dracish123456789 Жыл бұрын
Still here to promote monoMountain gruul.
@CyberNewType
@CyberNewType Жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE how powerful Atraxa is, even as a one of, after all the hate it got during preview season! Same can be said, to a lesser extent, about Jace. As for game play, you definitely weren’t optimizing your Atraxa picks. And I think your really focusing on Portal to Phyrexia’s killing potential, but over and over again stated that “it doesn’t do much here” and completely forgetting the reanimate ability that works for BOTH graveyards.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын
Jace is really good in this deck since it can fill our graveyard for Hellraiser. Honestly, one of our best cards.
@jimthesalad
@jimthesalad Жыл бұрын
Wow Seth, you misplayed even more than usual... :D impressive.
@brandoncrum5843
@brandoncrum5843 Жыл бұрын
rummage
@rodrigodepaula4198
@rodrigodepaula4198 Жыл бұрын
Impressive that we went from Jace beeing mediocre to cheer to find it.
@lonsmithicus
@lonsmithicus Жыл бұрын
I hate that they stopped including the secondary number of cards in the normal set-for example 702/300. That is why quit standard-there's no way to tell by looking at a card whether or not it is standard legal. They had never done this in the entire history of magic until just the last couple years and they "wonder why nobody plays standard anymore". -No prize support, no good FNM foils, deleted 25 years of DCI #'s and history for every player on earth, made mythics, made mythics impossible to open in packs to build decks with, banned mythics because they're too good, ignored power creep, built "Challenger decks" to destroy the value of everyones collection and make the format far less creative, removed the complete set booklet from Fat Packs so we don't even know what's in each set, and then added illegal cards to normal packs without including both numbers so that we could tell whether or not it is legal in Standard. I've played since Alpha 1993 GenCon and I'm so upset they deleted my DCI# of 25 years and multiple pro tours. They've ruined magic and even ruined commander which wasn't an easy task. I don't even get excited for new sets anymore or keep track of the 50 thousand plus cards like I used to have memorized because artwork would stay the same. They lost their way of having card art be "Recognizable from accross the room" and they gave up on the LGS and everything that brought the community together. As much as I love magic and it is my career and hobby, I think they deserve to lose to Flesh and Blood and other games that respect their players and community. Sincerely, -Lon Skyler Smith
@charlied8284
@charlied8284 Жыл бұрын
I think your biggest problem is playing traditional standard instead of best of 1
@adamtobiasz8793
@adamtobiasz8793 Жыл бұрын
Dear brother Set, I don't like your dog because it bites and I hate dogs. Second a good video but the deck is way too expensive. I don't 500$ to spend because food is expensive.
@scootermcg9910
@scootermcg9910 Жыл бұрын
the amount of land draw in match 1 game 1 was insane....i swear fhe randomness of arena doesn't work properly.
@Zomburai45
@Zomburai45 Жыл бұрын
True randomness guarantees some games you'll have games where you're flooded out or completely screwed If you got the appropriate ratio of lands to nonlands every game with only a little variation, that would be nonrandom
@DefinitelyDave
@DefinitelyDave Жыл бұрын
Meow
@andrecarneiro1397
@andrecarneiro1397 Жыл бұрын
Same cards, same games. Not a brew man
@nickschneider5091
@nickschneider5091 Жыл бұрын
First comment?
@jakesstatefarm
@jakesstatefarm Жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered not destroying people's ears I'm the first second of the video? It's a pretty consistent nuisance in these videos.
@MineRoyale.
@MineRoyale. Жыл бұрын
I despise Hellraiser. Not because the card is truly awful, but because it's really mediocre and people seem to unwaveringly think the card can be good. If cast for 3 mana, you're really likely to whiff (on lands, or enablers to fill the graveyard) if cast for six mana, it's really unexciting. Ergo, it's just never really all that good.
@UTUB2kholle
@UTUB2kholle Жыл бұрын
(just putting this here: I still hate these kind of intros, I don't find them funny. But I especially dislike them when they star a strident noise like this one) Ok back to the video now :p
@BeCurieUs
@BeCurieUs Жыл бұрын
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