Huh, what a coinkidink! I sudddenly had the urge to listen to this song this couple of days too! Aye man, got 2 question for ya, if you are willing to answer 'em, that is. Hope I;m not inconviniencing you too much' a) Where did that urge, that came unto the community, that made high register vocals a must at that time you were speaking, come from? Did it come from the Punk side (Hardcore/Post-Hardcore/Emo/Skramz/Crust/etc.) or the Metal side (the Melodeath/Symphonic Black Metal/Etc. at the time). As far as you are concerned, from your point of view? b) Have you/your band gotten some blowback from the community, for incorporating the more Atmospheric side of Deathcore and Death Metal, along with Shoegaze? You know how puritan some people can be, right? Keep going on with the hussle, man. I hope you guys realize how special you guys are...being open-minded as you guys' are, and keep going strong, yes ,even in this economy, lel. Cheers! Now, time for me to wait for another set of bands, that are willing to incorporate seemingly weird shit together, again, to crop (Come on, guys, Deathcore/Doom? Slamming Beatdown Death/Doom? Progressive/Avantgard Blacken Deathcore, the legit kind, not just techy for the sake of it? Math/Death/Core? MathCrust? Skramz/DSBM, like duhhh? Progressive/Tech Doom, but not the Sludgy kind like old Mastodon? Shred Metal/Math Rock? Trappy/Phonky Metal, but ya know, guitar-driven. the reverse? Extreme metal/Horrorcore Rap, with rappers who actually have flow and cadence? Yes I know about Extreme Horrorcore and Wigga Slam, but you know... Any other ideas for nonexistent hybrid genres. guys?) Oh yeah, Have you done a vocal analysis on the band Dir En Grey? Bye! Sorry for the long whole-ass novel that I;ve just written! lel

ABRB would be fuckin sickkk

Not a bad idea...

​@NobleVI_343 I read that shit wrong every time. Back Burner ABR was what ae to mind

IT'S also funny how many 00s deathcore bands released one album and then unironically changed genre by the very next album. Underoath comes to mind 😂

maybe bc deathcore is out of hype?@@philzeo

Yo fr he got my feels

Me too

Haha, honestly? Me too - I never thought of talking about it until Quigs told me to!

BTW Mountain Dew Game Fuel has been rereleased so its basically 2007 again 😁

Glad it helped - thanks for watching!

Brendan van Ryn, the original vocalist for Thy Art has Murder is my favorite highs, I love the entirety of the Infinite Death EP from Thy Art. Ollie is sick too ofc

@@xriot1752 tbh i think mitch lucker or alex koehler have some of the best highs, at least in my taste. i love those witch esque sounding highs

​@@krushh i was gonna say Alex Koehler, Mitch, and Oli had the top 3 highs. Also, the first 3 deathcore bands i listened to that got me into the genre many years ago. Hyped to see why Alex's new band brings. Already sounds great. And its all the OGs of chelsea grin since they all left Chelsea grin haha funny how that works

Same here. They sent me down a metal rabbit hole in highschool.

I think he’s a great vocalist nowadays. His screams and singing are on point.

Hell yeah, I'm glad!

Welcome friend 🎉

Blast from the past!

What?! When In this video did that happen?! How did I miss it?! I have so many questions!!!

You're welcome!

Thanks for watching!

Oh, I'm really glad this video helped you make that realisation! If ever you need help, don't hesitate to reach out!

Yes I am - thanks for the love!

That'd be really good "as the animals make their way through crowd"

This.

I third this!

I fourth this

Screaming is one of my favourite songs atm, Loathe are sick

He’s actually really shy about talking vocal technique

This would be a lot of fun, but he's a huge star now - I doubt he cares about little ol' me, haha!

@@KardavoxAcademy if you doubted yourself till now you wouldn't be the amazing person you are, with the band and following you have created! I believe he'd be willing!! Just gotta try :)

@@KardavoxAcademy Don’t be so hard on yourself! He hasn’t done ANY interviews like this as far as I know. I asked him for vocal advice in a Cameo and while he did talk about it, he was very shy.

That might be interesting!

​@KardavoxAcademy he's got a completely different technique now when he actually uses the technique and doesnt lose gis breathe he sounds really good live

I think smile or unhinged would be better but the ep is just amazing

It was that yelling on Suicide Season that messed him up more tbh

and fry scream too screeching mix growl

He did a while back

@@a1ansxe I must have missed it. I'll have to check it out. Thanks.

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Haha, he's changed a lot!

that cover album has some pretty horrendous covers, like I personally could cover them better and I'm not even in a band.

@@GoddaryuTUBE let's hear you cover one better then, don't say that if you can't actually do it. 😂

Over the past like 3 years I've found my way back to bmth and to be honest I was super partial to this album. But they have a few albums beyond this, that really are like top notch shit. It's not this as you know but it's still soooo good.

@@richardraymond8 sempiternal was the last album I bought and liked. They still are a talented bunch just tea and coffee when I'd like a soda? Be well.

@@Phil.Anthropy fair enough man!

Would love to!

A wild Nico

@@EvilSewnit 👋

Well, wonder no more, haha!

Check out this is what the edge of your seat was made for, some more oldies by em

Ya it's definitely off a bit. First time though I'm aware of

Yeah, slight editing issue - sorry about that!

Good question! I generally advise using it sparingly. Its just so easy to turn it into an attack, I personally reserve it for moments where I need a bit of impact. Using mixed onsets like y, w, r, and so on in place of glottal onsets not only takes effort away from the throat, it also has kind of evolved to be a staple sound in harsh vocals. So its a win win.

@@KardavoxAcademy fair enough, thanks for the reply I also use mixed onset as well especially with highs mostly but when i am doing regular onset it's tucked behind my distortion if that makes sense. I can only describe how it feels basically as if the distortion is padding the onset idk because im not looking at my throat from the inside

gotta disagree with that. Man can barely hold a scream a lot of the time whne hes doing older stuff..which they do quite a bit live. His voice cracks consistently when doing highs. Saw them recently 3 times and everytime they did Plagues and older music he got super winded,

@@ProbablyLobsters I’m confused the only “recent” performance of pray for plagues was 2022, you didn’t see them play the song 3 times recently lol

The term fry is extremely slippery and there are some differing opinions on what a fry scream actually is. This is in large part because metal vocals evolved outside of traditional vocal pedagogy, often even looked down on, and because our understanding of most of these screams developed based on sound and guesswork. Outside of The Zen of Screaming, we didn't have video of these screams until fairly recently. Justin's explanation is more in line with how fry screams have been talked about within metal vocal circles for a long time, whereas Elizabeth's description tends to line up with how rock and other contemporary styles often describe it. This is why generally I try not to put too much weight on terminology. Its important, very important, but at the end of the day most vocalists are looking for a sound and sensation for their screams and I find following that to be the best route while treating some (not all) vocal terms as being more like lighthouses than laws. As for me personally, I tend to resonate a bit more with Justin's description since I came up in sweaty venues and mosh pits, haha. But if I was sitting and talking with Elizabeth I would probably just adapt to her terminology for ease of conversation.

@@KardavoxAcademy Wow, thanks for the reply! That makes sense. Would be nice though if we all agreed on what different vocals are called, so people like me aren't perpetually confused trying to learn this stuff