How Pavel Nedved Finessed A Ballon D’or

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In 2003, one of the most infamous ballon d’or ceremonies of all time occurred. Sure, there have been many controversial ballon dors throughout the years, but never has one throughout all these years been overwhelmingly considered to be a consensus robbery. Because in 2003, Pavel Nedved won the award ahead of Thierry Henry. So just exactly how did Pavel Nedvded win the award? How good was he really? Well today were gonna dive into his story and show you exactly the kind of player he was. This is the story of Pavel Nedved - the man who many believe - stole the Ballon d'Or.
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0:00-2:22 How Pavel Nedved STOLE The Ballon d'Or
2:22-10:56 How Good Was Pavel Nedved, Really?
10:57-15:51 Please leave a like if you enjoyed ❤️
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@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
TLDR: Nedved was incredible, especially for his first 2 years in Juve which was his absolute prime. But there have been all time great midfielders with similar stats who’ve had the same impact on their squad, similar stats, and in some cases, even more silverware. (Pirlo, Deco, Xavi, Bergkamp, Raul, Iniesta for example) and NEVER won the award. And Juventus nearly beat AC Milan in the final WITHOUT Nedved. Don’t forget, they also had Buffon, Del Piero, Trezeguet, Conte, Edgar Davids, they were NOT a bad team at all. What Henry did was just too big of a difference in individual stats AND historic enough to never be repeated even 20 years later.
@brianduru3753
@brianduru3753 7 ай бұрын
Your point about Juventus almost beating Milan in the final without Nedved isn't actually the smoking gun that you think it is. If anything, it actually helps Nedved. Juventus played great purposeful football in the knockouts, and then were very drab and timid in the final. They beat Barcelona and Madrid with Nedved scoring decisive goals in both ties. They were considered the better team going into the final, as they had won Serie A and they had a much harder path to the final, compared to Milan who beat Ajax and Inter on away goals, a less challenging gauntlet than what Juve went through. So, saying they nearly beat AC Milan without him isn't really a strong point.
@MaurizioMezzatesta
@MaurizioMezzatesta 7 ай бұрын
Yeah but the quality of the prem has also greatly increased since then.
@qBodi
@qBodi 7 ай бұрын
i'd like to ask why my comment got removed, it's the truth that hard to swallow? everything about arsenal screams overhype, its 2023 and they re still overhyped by those times 20 years ago, average club for ever
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
@@qBodi ? How is something that has never been done again overhyped 💀
@qBodi
@qBodi 7 ай бұрын
@@RaymarFootball dunno, people still overhype henry/arsenal
@waltcruz1631
@waltcruz1631 7 ай бұрын
Ironically, you’ve convinced me that Nedved derserved it lol 😂
@trollinape2697
@trollinape2697 5 ай бұрын
He was the best midfielder of the year by quite a margin, but idk man 20 goals n 20 assists in the prem for a playmaker is just crazy to think about
@user-hb8dk2nk8j
@user-hb8dk2nk8j 2 ай бұрын
@@trollinape2697 Italian and Spanish league were far way better than premier league Italian league was best at the time
@biscobisco1882
@biscobisco1882 2 ай бұрын
For a playmaker? Henry was a centre forward...@@trollinape2697
@samraizshoaib585
@samraizshoaib585 2 ай бұрын
​@user-hb8dk2nk8j They weren't FAR better. Better but the line was getting blurred by that point.
@pritapp788
@pritapp788 13 күн бұрын
@@trollinape2697 Stats padding against WBA, Birmingham City and Middlesbrough, so mightily impressive. Even Spurs were garbage back then. And look at Henry's CL stats, he's a striker and the main man for Arsenal yet registered barely 2 more goals in the CL than Nedved, a midfielder.
@obinoscopekenobi9450
@obinoscopekenobi9450 7 ай бұрын
Nobody even questioned it in 2003, Nedved was that guy
@glencurtis6052
@glencurtis6052 5 ай бұрын
Nobody in England took notice of the award back then. I genuinely don't know who won it this year
@pritapp788
@pritapp788 13 күн бұрын
@@glencurtis6052 The English sure don't care about it, but care enough to say Henry was robbed in 2003 and 2004. One also fails to understand how folks like yourself seem to wear your ignorance and insular mindset like a badge of honour.
@andred666
@andred666 7 ай бұрын
One thing worth mentioning is at the time, italian Serie A was still the the top league along with Spain, while premier league, who usually didnt perform well in UEFA leagues, was somwwhat a distant third in quality. Nedved, being crucial in both domestic league and Champions gave him the edge.
@itzintellitube
@itzintellitube 7 ай бұрын
he literally mentioned that
@27hiddenintheleaves
@27hiddenintheleaves 6 ай бұрын
yeah i’m beginning to understand that,as a younger football fan who wasn’t even born by the time of this decision this and the comments are very insightful,all I had to be able to understand the premier league when I was younger was the premier league years series(watched them all)so even then I was biased and then I learnt more about bdr history,when i saw this year I originally thought Henry was robbed but it’s nice seeing this
@haroldrichardmodiya3701
@haroldrichardmodiya3701 6 ай бұрын
UP to now, l still think Premier League is not the best. They don't win so much at European level. Spaniards are still the King's!
@dragonusuralis8287
@dragonusuralis8287 5 ай бұрын
Half correct, serie a was the top league. La liga was not, stop trying to lump prime serie a with la liga. La liga was not even close to serie a at that time. U really thought u could sneak in la liga like we wouldn’t notice 😂
@haroldrichardmodiya3701
@haroldrichardmodiya3701 5 ай бұрын
@@dragonusuralis8287 l beg to differ. Serie A was still the top League, but La Liga was surely closing in. Remember by this Time, you had Réal Madrid, Valencia, Deportivo La Coruna, even Sevilla in Europa League was starting to make a name for themselves
@francolinselfborn952
@francolinselfborn952 7 ай бұрын
In 2003 everyone believed nedved won,so i think the problem is nedved has been forgotten leaving henry fans to be like "who's this nedved guy and how did he win over henry"
@Masticore_
@Masticore_ 7 ай бұрын
I read that "Henry deserved it over Nedved" like 50 times in the last couple of weeks, in the 20 years before that I heard it like once, how
@bautistachasseing7164
@bautistachasseing7164 7 ай бұрын
Premier League has ruined Football discourse
@MrGts92
@MrGts92 7 ай бұрын
Foreigners hatred of the PL. They need to feel hipster.
@XxAlex530xX
@XxAlex530xX 7 ай бұрын
Same I saw a picture posted yesterday and the day before.
@Prof.Maxwell
@Prof.Maxwell 7 ай бұрын
@@MrGts92It's not hate, the Premier League is super overrated. It is only now that it is slowly becoming worthy of all the praise but there still some way to go.
@MrGts92
@MrGts92 7 ай бұрын
@@Prof.Maxwell it's not, just hatred from certain foreigners. Has always been the case.
@alba..8479
@alba..8479 7 ай бұрын
31 direct goal involvements is a Phenomenal return for a midfielder
@avikellerman4539
@avikellerman4539 2 ай бұрын
Especially in prime Serie A which was very defensive at the time.
@a-chail9720
@a-chail9720 3 ай бұрын
90% of the people saying nedved didn't deserve clearly never followed his season when he was unplayable
@pritapp788
@pritapp788 13 күн бұрын
99% of them probably fall in one or both of those categories: -live in the UK or an English-speaking country -Arsenal fan
@georgemitev-
@georgemitev- 7 ай бұрын
Nedved did not just replace Zidane at Juve, he overshadowed him and won everything he participated in (missed the final in CL). He was just the best in 2003.
@qBodi
@qBodi 7 ай бұрын
one more title and couple of domestic cups, that's what you re calling " everything he participated in" more than zidane? putting zidane and nedved into the same sentence...
@LitoLochoss
@LitoLochoss 7 ай бұрын
@@qBodi Tells you how much you have to hate lol you dont need to be like zidane to be good for a team neved did what he was asked for filled his shoes perfectly and yet you are trying to downplay his achievement's because he was not same class as zidane Youre not even a juve fan that is laughable its always people who dont support the club that attack a player
@kytaem
@kytaem 7 ай бұрын
Zidane was the most gifted master of the round object this sport has ever seen. But Nedved was the more effective player. BY FAR. People seem to forget, if it weren't for one miracle goal in 2002, arguably the greatest goal of all time, Zidane at the club level would be a near complete failure Zidane and Baggio are legends obvs, Baggio is one of the great loves of my life, but for us juventini, neither player is held in high regard, that is something I think would surprise a lot of people.
@qBodi
@qBodi 7 ай бұрын
@@LitoLochoss you re losing the arguement the next second you re write that pathetic butthurt "hate" I was just asking something, ofc im no juve fan, im just asking a question, that dude overhype him, that's the thing, im not downgrading no one
@LitoLochoss
@LitoLochoss 7 ай бұрын
@@qBodi No I'm not You seem to lack reading skills He Juve fan His opinion matters more than yours you don't support the club you don't know how effective he was and a Juve fan is telling you he did better and you disrespected him just because you don't like it. You do hate him called him overhyped because he not Zidane he did what he was ask stop crying like a child Not every as to be like Zinedine to be effective to his team they reached final with him that enough to say he was well apriciated I'm not replying to someone who as attitude of a child
@elijahwakili9784
@elijahwakili9784 7 ай бұрын
20yrs from now Raymar's son will probably be making this exact same video but for Modric
@net_lag
@net_lag 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@Mybroskiprojectmbappe
@Mybroskiprojectmbappe 7 ай бұрын
​​@@RaymarFootball can we get a rakitic vid? Prime rakitic was such a beast.
@ajworks5958
@ajworks5958 7 ай бұрын
@@Mybroskiprojectmbappesecond the rakitic.
@glinkrecords
@glinkrecords 7 ай бұрын
​@@Mybroskiprojectmbappethe disrespect to my boy is insane
@melanineyedoc
@melanineyedoc 7 ай бұрын
Nedved got to the UCL final. Won the league. Won the Supercopa Italia. Henry, in contrast, won the FA Cup and confederations cup. Trophies do matter.
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
Despite the claims its an individual award they certainly do matter indeed. Although for some years it matters and others it doesnt which is weird how they dont have a standard points system for the vote but more on opinion
@abhishekalfred3452
@abhishekalfred3452 7 ай бұрын
Then why the heck they say it’s an individual award?
@samlove933
@samlove933 7 ай бұрын
@@RaymarFootball hater
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
@@samlove933 not hating my man, just saying it’s an “individual” award and what Henry did was historic and hasnt been done even today 20 years later in the PL. Nedved was amazing but there were midfielders with the same stats, importance, and even more trophies that havent won it. Xavi, Pirlo, Raul, Deco, Iniesta just to name a few
@Yami1300
@Yami1300 7 ай бұрын
​@RaymarFootball Still It's weird to give it to the guy that won just the FA cup Would anyone give it to a player thst scored 60 goals in the second division I think not Ithard to create a standard when we inconciosly associate individual success with team success In football it's impossible to separate the two
@pedromendes5022
@pedromendes5022 7 ай бұрын
Nedved is my favourite player of all time. Pure class, tenacity, amazing at playing with both feet, vision and commitment.
@hkmrsrg1367
@hkmrsrg1367 7 ай бұрын
Nedved deserved it. He was the engine that kept Juve running that year. Without him, we had the Juve in the UCL final that just didn't have the drive. Without him, Juve would probably be a B-tier team. He was very impactful. Had Henry won it, I wouldn't complain though. Hard to pick between the two, they were both great that year.
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I think Serie A was the biggest factor being the better league. but it makes you wonder how the hell did Owen win in 2001 😂
@hunmingng2042
@hunmingng2042 7 ай бұрын
​@@RaymarFootballmake a video on it
@brianduru3753
@brianduru3753 7 ай бұрын
​@@RaymarFootballOwen was really good in 2001 though. And Liverpool won three trophies that year (5 actually, if you include the Charity Shield and the UEFA Super Cup). And Owen had some memorable performances like scoring a hattrick in a World Cup qualifier away to Germany and a brace in the FA Cup final against Arsenal.
@Chengyuan79
@Chengyuan79 3 ай бұрын
Hi. Just chiming in on Owen. That boy deserves it. Before his injuries, he was the complete Advance Forward package. Pace (too much of it actually, caused his injuries i always felt). Off-ball movement. Great touch to control the long passes to him. Composure to then take aim and Shoot. He did need good service and ideally another striker partner to bring out his best, but ... there is only so many R9 (fat Ronaldo, and I say it as an endearing term) in the entire world football history.
@pritapp788
@pritapp788 13 күн бұрын
@@brianduru3753 ​ 2001 was very much an outlier. No player really stood out. Bayern Munich won a league-CL double but they didn't have an outstanding player. I think Raul should have won it but Owen had his merit too.
@vikingsownpackers
@vikingsownpackers 7 ай бұрын
I came here to support Henry, after watching this Nedved deserved the trophy. His Goals/Assists for a midfielder are top notch. Especially in Seria A. His team success sealed it for me.
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
That team had Buffon, Antinio Conte, Del Piero, Edgar Davids, Trezeguet and more, better than most Serie A squads off the bat
@ScheppundFries
@ScheppundFries 7 ай бұрын
@@RaymarFootball conte and del piero were not that special that season, and trezeguet was injured for a large part. Nedved was by far the best player that season for juventus
@mugenAPEX
@mugenAPEX 7 ай бұрын
@@ScheppundFries Del P in 2003 was already falling heavily out of form and Conte was just good/ok and yes Nedved really mostly carried that team
@LitoLochoss
@LitoLochoss 7 ай бұрын
same he quite literally changed my mind
@RonnieWave
@RonnieWave 7 ай бұрын
​@@LitoLochossbut he says he doesn't believe he should've won and still believes he was robbed
@mdamiciful
@mdamiciful 7 ай бұрын
As someone who lived through that season and was 18, so probably old enought to have a wider perspective on things, Nedved was hands down the best player. Henry wasn’t even in consideration for mine. Stats are all well and good but the influence Nedved had on games went much deeper than mere goals and assists. Throw on top of it that the EPL was still a pretty average league at the time and there you have it, no contest.
@27hiddenintheleaves
@27hiddenintheleaves 6 ай бұрын
Wow,it was seen as average back then? I’m only 19 so you can see why I must ask😂😂
@rocktop-games
@rocktop-games Ай бұрын
@@27hiddenintheleaves The best leagues were, with some difference (though dwingelling at that point) the Spanish La Liga and Italian Serie A (where Nedved played). So even less of a contest back in the day. He was the best Juventus player (if not full MVP)in pretty much every single UCL match Juventus played, scoring against Real Madrid, Manchester United (when they where the best England had to offer) and many more A list teams, IMO having the biggest part on taking his team to the finals. And I have no doubt that If he was in the final, win or lose, he would have been the best player of the Juventus if not the match. He was and amazing playmaker, and made his national team good almost by himself. In contrast Henry broke a goal record in a, at the time, not yet top league. Which is nice and impressive but I dont think is comparable. And I can't recall any controversy back in the day about this.
@pritapp788
@pritapp788 13 күн бұрын
Henry didn't even win the Premier League back in 2003. Arsenal picked up just the FA Cup that year, and it was Pires/Ljungberg who bagged the important goals.
@Aliquis.frigus
@Aliquis.frigus 7 ай бұрын
Not stolen. Sure, Henry was amazing, but I remember being more mesmerised by Nedved.
@llolanf3650
@llolanf3650 7 ай бұрын
Nedved that year was the best player in the best team (despite the loss in the UCL final, that they would have won with him on the pitch), the title was super deserved
@nacheems8047
@nacheems8047 7 ай бұрын
The problem I see is that, people are comparing the g/a of a midfielder with a striker to say that it is a robbery.
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
I know they shouldn’t but for me the main point is that what Henry did with such a large difference was historic and never repeated till this day. You have midfielders like Raul, Bergkamp, Xavi, Pirlo, Deco, Iniesta who’ve had similar stats, importance, and in some cases even more silverware but they didnt win the award
@kangchem
@kangchem 7 ай бұрын
@@RaymarFootballBergkamp is a striker. Just because his goal record not so good, doesnt mean he is no longer a striker
@Chengyuan79
@Chengyuan79 3 ай бұрын
And Raul is also a forward. 😅 P.S. Love Bergkamp, by the way. Classy.
@hernanbusso1609
@hernanbusso1609 7 ай бұрын
It's not a consensus robbery at all. This is pure revisionism by Arsenal fans, at the time Nedved was the candidate since May and he won it and nobody thought it was controversial. Only modern Arsenal fans who didn't even watch Nedved play came with this robbery thing. He was the best player in Serie A and in Champions League.
@latibosani
@latibosani 7 ай бұрын
Nedved deserved it. In 2003 the Serie A was still the best league in the world, Premier League was nowhere near the stature it is today. Trophies does matter. Also judging player abilities just based on goals and assists, especially back then was a huge mistake.
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
Yet Owen won in 2001 over Raul as a PL player
@latibosani
@latibosani 7 ай бұрын
@@RaymarFootball Because Owen was simply had a better season that year? He won 3 trophies that year, including a european competition, and he was pretty hyped as a young talent. Super Cup was also meant more than just a friendly. Henry and Arsenal won less in comparison that season. That year also just one year after a terrible World Cup campaign, not to mention Arsenal early exit from Champions League. Back then football wasn't such an individual game, that's why Cannavaro won it in 2006, and he deserved it.
@solorun79
@solorun79 7 ай бұрын
@@latibosani oh man, don't slap him too hard.
@Nekudza
@Nekudza 7 ай бұрын
From 1992 on it was Czech Republik, not Czechoslovakia anymore. Nedved was indeed amazing and fully deserved the win. His impact in important matches, against big teams was enormous. Also he played magnificently for the national team which obviously was not on the France level
@n00g75
@n00g75 4 ай бұрын
what? the 2004-2006 czech team wasn ranked no.1 on fifas ranking .. did you ever watch the 2004 (i think) eu championship .. where the czech national team being 0:2 behind and turned it into a 3:2 win over a dutch team which was the clear favorite or at least one of the favorites to win the european championship!
@Nekudza
@Nekudza 4 ай бұрын
@@n00g75 One of my favourite matches of all time :) But my point is that Czech national team wasn't top of the world and still Nedved helped them shine
@danielguerrero1438
@danielguerrero1438 7 ай бұрын
Come on i have being watching the game for almost 3 decades now. I still believe Nedved deserve the award that year.
@piotrswat169
@piotrswat169 7 ай бұрын
Same
@traplivesmatter1462
@traplivesmatter1462 7 ай бұрын
That's just delusional
@hendyw2565
@hendyw2565 7 ай бұрын
Same.. Nedved very deserved
@27hiddenintheleaves
@27hiddenintheleaves 6 ай бұрын
Interesting that all the people who were alive around the time all have this perspective,it’s intriguing,eye opening
@glencurtis6052
@glencurtis6052 5 ай бұрын
I was 25 and think Henry deserved it as it's an individual award. But back then (and still now in the UK) the award isn't a big deal. It wasn't even reported on back then in England. Just to point out I loved Nedved, especially while at Lazio
@pranaypinnenti4472
@pranaypinnenti4472 7 ай бұрын
The main people who keep complaining about Henry losing to nedved are premier league biased.
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
You could say that but the award was also very Serie A biased at the time. You have midfielders who were equally valuable to their club as Nedved who had similar stats and MORE silverware that didn’t win the award (Bergkamp in the 90s, Pirlo, Xavi, Iniesta, Deco) just to name a few. Henry’s performances had never been done again in the prem
@jayzretrogaminz17
@jayzretrogaminz17 7 ай бұрын
@@RaymarFootball because stats shouldnt be the decided by stats only especially for midfielder it should be who is the best player of that time
@MrGts92
@MrGts92 7 ай бұрын
The main people who say the opposite are basically plastics who hate the PL.
@MrGts92
@MrGts92 7 ай бұрын
​@@jayzretrogaminz17 stats have always been used to justify players awards.
@jayzretrogaminz17
@jayzretrogaminz17 7 ай бұрын
@@MrGts92 ok but you cant use that otherwise it going to favor attackes
@lucarusso4740
@lucarusso4740 7 ай бұрын
LOL Chat GPT said Henry was a good candidate, NOT that he deserved it more
@vassilisxerikos3908
@vassilisxerikos3908 Ай бұрын
If anything, Maldini deserved it more than Henry that year.
@ZinoAdlan
@ZinoAdlan 7 ай бұрын
I wouldn't consider he robbed Henry here's why: 1 The Prem wasn't the strongest league and the Serie A was so Henry's achievements were seen as domestic. 2 Nedved was Goated that year and replaced Zidane in a way nobody has done and actually bested him most Juve fans would say he was better than him for their club. 3 Nedved was more a winger/Left sided midfielder so saying Henry had more goal contributions even tho he was much more attacking minded and positioned isn't fair. Overall all the years where people think Henry should've won you can find arguments to justify him losing ( I will admit all the winners were very controversial at the time looking back at it)tho yeah Henry deserved one for his stellar career.
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
Yeah Serie A being the top league definitely made a difference (same reason why Ligue 1 players dont win the award) but what Henry did in has never been done again in the PL. Nedved was a genius but there have been others with very similar stats and even more trophies/importance to their teams that didnt win it
@ZinoAdlan
@ZinoAdlan 7 ай бұрын
@@RaymarFootball like I said Henry deserved at least one for his career but sadly every year where he could've won you could justify him losing so unlucky.
@MaurizioMezzatesta
@MaurizioMezzatesta 7 ай бұрын
Which is fair if the standard of the prem has always been the same but it hasn't, teams and football quality have vastly improved.
@mugenAPEX
@mugenAPEX 7 ай бұрын
@@RaymarFootball Yeah but those others were in the Messi/Ronaldo era and that really doesnt matter; Nedved simply had a bigger impact and deserved it, for sure Henry deserves one for his career but in 2003 Nedved was just something else
@Fluiad
@Fluiad 7 ай бұрын
Nedved was a special player. He was the closest to replacing Zidane, which that alone makes you special, and his prime years were amazing, not better than Henry that season, but due to the team success, Henry didn't win it. Great video Raymar, love from Fluiad ❤❤❤
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
Yeah got to give respect to him of course but what Henry did is historic and hasnt been repeated in 20 years and going brother! Thank you for the support again much love ❤️
@drebalogun-vm1gu
@drebalogun-vm1gu 7 ай бұрын
@@RaymarFootballdon’t worry I would do that in 5 years time
@siiewgs
@siiewgs 7 ай бұрын
​@@RaymarFootballHenry did what he did in a completely weak league before the Arab money. The Italian and Spanish leagues were a quality abyss compared to other leagues. While the Premier League was a Farmer League, with only 2 teams competing for the title.
@crumbmaister
@crumbmaister 7 ай бұрын
​@@siiewgsoverall disagree about the farmer league But agree with your point on the other leagues. You see. Many other clubs were so Resentful to the top 6 That even SAF in 1996/7 claimed that teams tried harder against Manchester united (a top 6 team) than Newcastle (not a top 6). The Premier league was close there are so many surprising teams that were top 4 or even Top of the table at Christmas (Top of the table examples include, Leeds, Liverpool, Newcastle (Ten point lead of which I just mentioned. Also topped in 01/02) and more
@NiklTesla1987
@NiklTesla1987 4 ай бұрын
Seriously? Humble and hardworking Nedved with strong both left and right foot, being a motor for Juve, running the whole game, offense and defense, getting them in the UCL final, (and most likely would win it if not for the yellow card). And not even mentioning being the powerhouse for the best European national team at that time... Come on, fully deserved for Nedved.
@quieness
@quieness 2 ай бұрын
Nedved was one of the best mids in the 2000s and was so graceful to see. I miss watching him play
@Maasky
@Maasky 7 ай бұрын
We should stop always comparing goals and assist. Even for offensive players. Quality of passes, opportunity created, serenity preserve, impact on the game etc... are also vital to get the W.
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
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@OttawaTheOat
@OttawaTheOat 7 ай бұрын
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@narayanvarma3311
@narayanvarma3311 7 ай бұрын
My father loved France, Arsenal and Zidane. We watched every Serie A, UCL and Premier League game that season (Some using DVR). I can't state enough how influential Nedved was to that Juventus team. My father thought Zidane was irreplaceable, but when Nedved stepped up to replace him, even he conceded that Zidane may be more talented but Nedved was a total footballer, his consistency across 90m was unmatched, game after game. He didn't like that Henry was snubbed but he understood why it happened. The PL back then was mostly a two horse race with ManU & Arsenal leading the has beens, who were leading the rest. Italy by contrast was far more competitive. So many football legends are from that era of Serie A and Nedved stood out that season amongst them. I wish we had the stats we have now for ball recoveries, successful ball carry, passes into the box, tackles made etc... in that era, then perhaps the stats would tell people more of the story.
@solorun79
@solorun79 7 ай бұрын
even if they ask juventus fans to choose nedved or zidane they will all choose nedved.
@soundsOf75
@soundsOf75 7 ай бұрын
Nedved Was On A Different Level That Season And An Actual Midfielder So It Makes Less Sense For Us To Compare Them With Stats Only. Also Serie A Was Probably The Best League At That Time
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
I see your point, but Henry’s stats were historic. We’ve seen what Nedved’s done before (and more) from players who havent won the award in a similar position
@DrRan617
@DrRan617 7 ай бұрын
@@RaymarFootball Henry was a skriker while nedved scored a great time goals of the second
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
@@DrRan617Raul, Xavi, Deco, Iniesta, Pirlo have done what Nedved did with similar stats (some with better stats and some with more trophies too) but didnt winn
@dilarch5957
@dilarch5957 7 ай бұрын
@@RaymarFootball Cuz when those players did it there were better players like Ronaldinho, Messi etc, dummie. When Nedved had that season he was the best in the world no matter how many goals Henry scored Nedved had a better year.
@MrGts92
@MrGts92 7 ай бұрын
​@@dilarch5957literally makes no sense. What did those other players do that the midfielders didn't deserve the award compared to what Henry didn't do
@Katkayz
@Katkayz 7 ай бұрын
Nedved was the truth , he reached the champions league final with juve in 2004 . That’s why he won the ballon dor . He was inspirational for juventus
@FootballBamberger
@FootballBamberger Ай бұрын
2003*
@MessitheGOAT7720
@MessitheGOAT7720 7 ай бұрын
Never disappoints
@seanbristow3165
@seanbristow3165 7 ай бұрын
I used to love Nedved. Unbelievably talented footballer. That early 2000's Juve team was just crazy.
@ThatGuy-qp6dv
@ThatGuy-qp6dv 7 ай бұрын
I always thought Henry was robbed but now knowing Arsenal were knocked out at the UCL group stage I don't think its that much of a robbery.
@piotrswat169
@piotrswat169 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I remember those lackluster CL matches.He and Wenger just dropped the ball.Henry would win if he had better CL games.
@ThatGuy-qp6dv
@ThatGuy-qp6dv 7 ай бұрын
@piotrswat169 it's such a shame because personally I think if he dominated the UCL the way Messi and Ronaldo did he may very well have been regarded as goat status with them 2. I dunno maybe I'm way off with that opinion 😅😅
@27hiddenintheleaves
@27hiddenintheleaves 6 ай бұрын
@@ThatGuy-qp6dvhe definitely would be higher in ranking if he did
@27hiddenintheleaves
@27hiddenintheleaves 6 ай бұрын
@@ThatGuy-qp6dvhe got a UCL in the end but it wasn’t prime Henry that won,maybe why it goes under the radar
@pritapp788
@pritapp788 13 күн бұрын
Henry has a pretty appalling goalscoring record in the CL, particularly knockout rounds. It was most embarrassing in the 2002/03 season, he went 4 games in a row without scoring (Valencia, Ajax twice, Roma home) and that had a big impact on Arsenal's elimination. Meanwhile Nedved was scoring against Manchester United, Barcelona, Real Madrid... it's a no-brainer.
@nygiantsfan84
@nygiantsfan84 7 ай бұрын
I think Nedved deserved it due to team success and the fact that serie A was a better league that year and nedved was the better player in the league….
@kangchem
@kangchem 7 ай бұрын
You can just pick another tittle and thumbnails. Even if goals is the most criteria for the award, then that year just give it to Mateja Kezman or Roy Makaay. Nedved take Juve to final UCL, score at quarter and semis.
@fangdog29
@fangdog29 7 ай бұрын
Makaay isn't fit to lace Henry's boots
@wis4123
@wis4123 6 ай бұрын
Nedved had way more impact than Henry. Nedved was a beast. Only in Engeland people think Henry was robbed.
@ynglgn3870
@ynglgn3870 7 ай бұрын
I'm sorry raymar I always appreciate your opinions on football but it's so clear that you're biased for this video. I love henry but Nedved is such an underappreciated gem that made juve fans forget about zidane. He's a czech legend of the game and his impact in juve's 2002/03 run is matched only by buffon. He destroyed galacticos real madrid in that cl run which had ronaldo, zidane, casillas, roberto carlos, raul exc.. Both Henry and Nedved probably deserved the award that season
@5thdawg917
@5thdawg917 7 ай бұрын
Nedved deserved it. Its bitter Arsenal fans who over hype Henry. Henry was just another ordinary average striker at best
@andrejdragicevic570
@andrejdragicevic570 7 ай бұрын
Nedved was Never ever world class Player in Jos carrer
@abhishek-dh3st
@abhishek-dh3st 7 ай бұрын
For those who are saying nedved deserved it because of his position Kdb deserve this year according to that. Kf not, you are delusional
@Deadlyassassin124
@Deadlyassassin124 7 ай бұрын
Love your videos raymar
@lostintime519
@lostintime519 7 ай бұрын
Henry is a very beautiful player, especially in reels but everyone who watched football then know that he was behind the best of his generation, because he choked outside of Arsenal, and in crucial matches - when opposition gave a fight.
@vvalentine4402
@vvalentine4402 7 ай бұрын
Nedved deserved it
@KapitanPisoar1
@KapitanPisoar1 7 ай бұрын
I love Henry, but Nedved deserved it! Btw. comparing how good players are based on goals, when one is a striker and the other CM is an absolute nonsense...
@llawliet2814
@llawliet2814 7 ай бұрын
Ikr
@ethantasti2521
@ethantasti2521 7 ай бұрын
Also henry getting 28 assists
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
Thats why insane goalscorers/assists providers almost always win because it’s the most important thing in football, but that’s because there’s no alternative of the award for midfielders. What Henry did still hasn’t been replicated, but many who’ve done what Nedved done had never won the award even with the same stats, importance, and in some cases even more silverware (Raul, Xavi, Pirlo, Deco, Iniesta, Bergkamp)
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
@@llawliet2814he had 28 assists for the year
@Charlie-de7yr
@Charlie-de7yr 7 ай бұрын
@@RaymarFootball Sure there was some 'bias' towards goalscorers, but goals became increasingly (unreasonably) important in the Ronaldo/Messi era. Prior to them it was much more nuanced. Hopefully it will return to that. I also want to specify that i don't think the shift was because of those two players themselves, nor even because of France Football.
@Coach-rq6jx
@Coach-rq6jx 7 ай бұрын
Great timing ;)
@sameerk7151
@sameerk7151 7 ай бұрын
I don't like how raymar just conisder stats and have so much bias for attackers i mean there are alot of time also when defender has given The perfect performances and they still gets robbed by attackers but nobody talks about it but when a midfielder win it everyone calls it robbery The ATTACKERS bias is unreal 😢
@amineouachao4625
@amineouachao4625 7 ай бұрын
Henry was truly out of this world that year but you so was nedved .. i re-watched some of his matches from that year and he one eye candy
@bautistachasseing7164
@bautistachasseing7164 7 ай бұрын
Though I hate football stats, I believe you shouldn’t downplay those 14 goals. That’s a good season for most strikers!
@duartedafonte7498
@duartedafonte7498 7 ай бұрын
After seeing this I really believe that Nedved deserved it, I mean, his individual performance helped Juventus achieve so much at the time, and as good as Henry might have been, his exceptional performances led Arsenal pretty much nowhere that season. Deserved
@stinkinstinkus
@stinkinstinkus 7 ай бұрын
nowhere? ☠️
@duartedafonte7498
@duartedafonte7498 7 ай бұрын
@@stinkinstinkus that year, yes.
@STANKORachev
@STANKORachev 7 ай бұрын
​@@stinkinstinkusMessi > Penaldo, Barca > Vareal Madrid
@stinkinstinkus
@stinkinstinkus 7 ай бұрын
@@STANKORachev that's off topic, sir
@mantosh56
@mantosh56 7 ай бұрын
​@@STANKORachevOh come on....live a damn life instead of going on and on about those shit all the DAMN TIME
@nf9098
@nf9098 7 ай бұрын
If he was a midfielder you can't compare based in numbers simple as that
@azimasyraf2838
@azimasyraf2838 4 ай бұрын
Nedved deserve it. He absolutely monster in his prime. Back then, seria A was extremely strong, brutal, aggressive and elite league than priemier league. - Juventus - ac milan - inter milan - as roma - napoli - lazio
@Chengyuan79
@Chengyuan79 3 ай бұрын
Napoli wasnt strong decades ago after Maradona left. Maybe Fiorentina with Batistuta? Parma was competitive for a time too. But anyway all teams are tactically strong. Mourinho, when in Inter, once said he made six changes vs bottom Genoa in a single match, and was impressed that the Genoa team responded and countered the six different threats successfully in terms of using tactical adjustments. I guess it is because there is a minimum requirement for Serie A managers to have official coaching badges before been appointed.
@rizinhokasa
@rizinhokasa 7 ай бұрын
This man is a juve legend for a reason, he did a bit of everything just because he was doing it all, and stats dint cover all that u do in the field.
@DoubleSsoccer
@DoubleSsoccer 2 ай бұрын
Don't know if it is just me but this video makes Nedved look underrated 😂
@cheesenut0897
@cheesenut0897 7 ай бұрын
Even though Nedved had impact on the pitch that couldn't be seen through stats, Thierry Henry's goalscoring and assisting was a direct contribution to the team success... and the award is for the best player of the year, so I don't see why accolades account for so much...
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
Yup when the difference in production is just so large it’s deserved. What Henry did has never been done again in the PL while some legends in the same position as Nedved with the same production and even more trophies didnt win it
@LievenSerge
@LievenSerge 7 ай бұрын
Nobody I know, who had any clue of football, at that time doubted Nedved.
@solorun79
@solorun79 7 ай бұрын
even juventus fans would choose nedved over zidane
@skidflamer07
@skidflamer07 7 ай бұрын
Although i didnt watch nedved play for long, but that man was fantastic
@kendomyers
@kendomyers 7 ай бұрын
Interesting way to frame the video- great video...both players are incredible
@s.sarjonmahmud6231
@s.sarjonmahmud6231 7 ай бұрын
that other player played in serie a the best league at the time
@naaiiiz
@naaiiiz 7 ай бұрын
Nedved was Mad Bro He was one of the best ever
@johnjr7070
@johnjr7070 7 ай бұрын
I RECall that season, Nedved was incredible.
@Charlie-de7yr
@Charlie-de7yr 7 ай бұрын
I don't really think the wins of Nedved and Modric are comparable.
@blank1933
@blank1933 7 ай бұрын
Nedved was more deserving but they both robbed
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 7 ай бұрын
​@@blank1933how ?
@blank1933
@blank1933 7 ай бұрын
@@lexkanyima2195 Modric wasn’t even the best midfielder in 2018 it was KDB. Was handed the golden ball, we all know Hazard was the best at the tournament. Like established in the video players like Mandzukic, Brozovic, Rakitic we’re just as important if not more so for Croatia’s campaign. And th glaring obvious that he wasn’t the best player in his team. Are we also forgetting the season Salah had that year not to mention Messi. Modric shouldn’t have finished in the top 5. Nedved however was actually pivotal to Juventus but still imo Henry should’ve won
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 7 ай бұрын
@@blank1933 then why you saying KDB is better then Hazard ?
@pritapp788
@pritapp788 13 күн бұрын
@@blank1933 "IMO Henry should've won" absolutely does not back a claim such as "they both robbed". It's like going to the tribunal and trying to defend yourself with your opinion.
@MaurizioMezzatesta
@MaurizioMezzatesta 7 ай бұрын
The beginning of the video implies that everyone agrees Henry should've won. The comments suggest otherwise.
@pritapp788
@pritapp788 13 күн бұрын
Everyone inside England and France agrees, perhaps.
@Ramses060784
@Ramses060784 2 ай бұрын
The serie A was the best league back at the day, and Nedved was so skillful so magical, he outshined Zidane and took his country to the TOP just like Modric did, I guess you were too young to appreciate it, sorry but I disagree he was the fair winner. ❤
@kushrajsingh7211
@kushrajsingh7211 7 ай бұрын
Bro i seriously need ur bg music!!
@klausbrinck2137
@klausbrinck2137 25 күн бұрын
I´d say, Nedved was more influential as a midfielder, than Henry as a forward,,,And that year, they said to themselves "this year we HAVE to give the price to a midfielder, because we always give it solely to forwards and strikers". How many midfielders have won the price in the last 20 years ???
@somnathbose7455
@somnathbose7455 Ай бұрын
u said Modric was solely not responsible for croatia's world cup run as u pointed out rakitic and mandzukic as 2 other star players... can we then not put the same logic that real madrid won the champions league not just due to cr goals but the squad being star studded in every positions including having players like bale at the bench?
@LinDaMian-ns6ec
@LinDaMian-ns6ec 7 ай бұрын
Such a bias header.. football is not about individual, individual’s stats for a striker or forward can be important, but it should not undermine the role of other positions.. Nedved was exceptionally talented player who could control and dictate the game..when Juve lost Zidane, he was the replacement says it all..
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
But they almost won the UCL final without him. That Juve squad was far from mediocre. Del Piero, Buffon, Esgar Davids, Trezeguet, Antonio Conte, Di Vaio
@mekyparadja9438
@mekyparadja9438 7 ай бұрын
Have you seen the 2003 Final? As a Juve fans I admit that in that final Juventus was lacking creativity. Without the help from Nedved that time, Del Piero seemed struggle to create chances.
@mariuscarausu9352
@mariuscarausu9352 3 ай бұрын
Nedved was for Juventus and Czechia,what Modric is for Real Madrid and Croatia
@namanmhta
@namanmhta 3 ай бұрын
Getting Grouped in CL and statpading in weak PL, against a Big game player A Cm with impressive number in a most toughest and defensive league (by far the best era of football). Playing in serie A was not easy that's why henry flopped in juve.
@Pavle_Savkovic
@Pavle_Savkovic 7 ай бұрын
Griezmann reminds me of Nedved as a jack of all trades, do you guys agree?
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
Yeah he kind of is but usually he’ll stick to 2 role mostly during a match, although he can play several roles it’s usually always at a match basis he’ll be a scorer then a playmaker but very few times he’ll switch both constantly in 1 match haha
@KasperK-su9oz
@KasperK-su9oz 6 ай бұрын
Not at all. Nedved was an engine a machine, Griezmann does not work defensively and is a yes man player.
@Pavle_Savkovic
@Pavle_Savkovic 6 ай бұрын
@@KasperK-su9oz were you watching griezmann last 2 years? In world cup grizzie was everywhere, in his box defending and taking balls all tournament and offensively he was also a beast
@KasperK-su9oz
@KasperK-su9oz 6 ай бұрын
Did you ever watch Nedved?@@Pavle_Savkovic
@pritapp788
@pritapp788 13 күн бұрын
@@KasperK-su9oz He does, vital player in bringing balance to Atletico and France. Deschamps' system crumbles without him.
@roibalbarino9928
@roibalbarino9928 7 ай бұрын
can u do update on this
@s7dsaliraqy826
@s7dsaliraqy826 7 ай бұрын
Compzaring goals and assists even though nedved won the important trophies and got to ucl final so clearly henry's goals didnt amount to much
@gregorio5543
@gregorio5543 7 ай бұрын
I'd still give it to Nedved based on his team that year. They won the league and made the final were Arsenal didn't win the title and didn't play at the highest level with not playing in the UCL knockouts. Biggest controversy for me is still Sneijder not getting it in 2010
@ThunderEditz249
@ThunderEditz249 7 ай бұрын
Man keep this good work🐐🏅 U will reach 1M soon💖✨
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
thank you brother 🙏 I pray one day I do and I’ll keep trying to make these videos for you guys to hopefully enjoy!
@DLWithIt
@DLWithIt 7 ай бұрын
My takeaway from this is that Nedved is both underrated and overrated
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s crazy I mean he was world class no doubt but what Henry did was historic. Others have produced the same things as Nedved with similar stats, importance, and MORE trophies but didnt win. Raul, Deco, Bergkamp, Iniesta, Pirlo just off the top of my head.
@pritapp788
@pritapp788 13 күн бұрын
Exactly the same can be said of Henry.
@blaquenguni9249
@blaquenguni9249 14 күн бұрын
Imagine getting knocked out of the group stages of the CL and complaining about a robbery 😂😂
@pritapp788
@pritapp788 13 күн бұрын
AND going 4 games without scoring in the process, at a time when your team is on the brink of elimination. Anyway since Raymar loves stats so much: Henry scored 7 goals that year in the CL... including 3 against one same opponent (Roma) and a further 2 against giants PSV Eindhoven. Nedved - a midfielder - scored 5, including goals in the 1/4 and 1/2 finals, against Man Utd, Barcelona and Real Madrid.
@johnnkurunziza5012
@johnnkurunziza5012 7 ай бұрын
Preach about the 2018 Balondor
@georgevarteniuc5525
@georgevarteniuc5525 7 ай бұрын
Pavel Nedved forever one of the greats 💯
@thecalmbeforethemaelstrom
@thecalmbeforethemaelstrom 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for breaking everything down and contextualizing this. My position has changed and I completely understand why Nedved deserved the award. I think the Modric win is much more controversial since the only difference in team achievement between Ronaldo and Modric that year was that Croatia finished 2nd in the WC. Individually however, the gulf in impact was ridiculous. Ronaldo: - 1st player in history to score in all 6 group stage games of the CL. - 1st and only player to score in 11 consecutive CL matches - 15 goals & 3 assists in 13 UCL matches. - Directly involved in EVERY goal (scored or assisted) in the UCL Ro16 vs PSG. (Both legs) - Directly involved in EVERY goal (scored or assisted) in the UCL QF vs Juventus including the last minute winner (Both legs) - Scored the only 2 goals in the Club WC including a late winner in the final vs Gremio - Scored in the SuperCoppa win vs Barcelona - 26G & 5A in 27 La liga games - Saved Real Madrid's la liga season. Spent the first month without a goal and still managed to secure third place by the end of the season - most match points won by an individual player across Europe's top 5 leagues Ronaldo not winning was beyond a robbery...it killed the integrity of the award. (Messi also had a fantastic individual year and placed 5th. That whole ceremony was a shambles)
@Chengyuan79
@Chengyuan79 3 ай бұрын
it's just a popularity contest, and designed to help sell papers at its conception. And you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned that Modric got his county to 2nd in the World Cup. That's actually an important factor to many of those voting.
@glencurtis6052
@glencurtis6052 5 ай бұрын
29 years old was still considered peak age back then, not sure where you have got that opinion from. Also Nedved in 1996 after the Euros and Lazio was definitely considered a superstar, certainly in England
@joaquinpinon7700
@joaquinpinon7700 7 ай бұрын
Raymar best football KZfaqr 💯💯
@adrianfilimon2716
@adrianfilimon2716 6 ай бұрын
The premier league wasn't that competitive at the time. U had manchester united and arsenal and that's about it. Henry was showing brilliance against weaker players but in europe he couldn't carry his team. Meanwhile nedved was playinh in the hardest league, which btw wasn't dominated by speed merchants like the pl is now, everything was tight and u had to have proper dribbling skills to get past players and he was thriving in that league and he wasn't just a component of juventus, he was the engine for the team and as good that juventus team was, he carried them and it shpwed in the final where he missed it. Nedved deserved it easily
@anedinburgher4328
@anedinburgher4328 7 ай бұрын
Nedved was scoring and assisting outside of the box and did a lot defensively, so I think he deserved it. Also, he had cool hair!
@santaissanti5756
@santaissanti5756 7 ай бұрын
u gotta make a second channel with this same type of commentary but not on soccer, your video commentary is highly entertaining and you could catch a lot of attention of non soccer people
@rudycastillo4150
@rudycastillo4150 7 ай бұрын
I agree with Modric thing😊
@ElsonGjoka-re3on
@ElsonGjoka-re3on 2 ай бұрын
Nedved in 2003 was absolutely the best Evryboody loved him and his footbal Was full of power,grinta ,class Scored amayzing decizive goals Instead Thierry Henry was simply a kind of Superior in Premier ligue
@msizimasilela9121
@msizimasilela9121 7 ай бұрын
Hi Raymar I'm from South Africa I'd love it if u made a video about the soccer player Kaizer Motaung
@forlan934
@forlan934 7 ай бұрын
And the thing is this wasnt the first time a ballondor was robbed
@RaymarFootball
@RaymarFootball 7 ай бұрын
it’s just the one most people agree is robbery imo, some others definitely were but the opinion is more divided
@forlan934
@forlan934 7 ай бұрын
@@RaymarFootball ye true
@LitoLochoss
@LitoLochoss 7 ай бұрын
it wasnt
@pritapp788
@pritapp788 13 күн бұрын
@@RaymarFootball "most people" in the comments are calling out your nonsense, funnily enough. What's your sample of "most people": a survey of your neighbourhood of Arsenal fans, including cats and family pets?
@mastergintoki7
@mastergintoki7 7 ай бұрын
Gols doesn't translate to performance imo. Disagree with you on this one. This is why only fowards usually won.
@ardihasan7887
@ardihasan7887 6 ай бұрын
Let me ask a question.. Did you see Nedved play on live, on tv Or you just see compilation on youtube and check his stat..? I see the match nedved play in his time on lazio to juventus.. And I can say he is briliant and make juventus forget about Zidane..
@baseupp12
@baseupp12 Ай бұрын
You know you can find full games of Nedved online right so you don't have to see it live
@icyyynick2601
@icyyynick2601 6 ай бұрын
If you know ball you know how good nedved really was
@ZtkW816
@ZtkW816 7 ай бұрын
They should change the criteria and only use the individual performance as a criteria. Messi was individually clear the best player in 2016 and 2018, but CR7 and Modric won bcs they won the bigger trophies
@libertynkomo4222
@libertynkomo4222 7 ай бұрын
Lets not forget that Luciano Moggi was a football mafia
@fullspeedaheadbarcelona6502
@fullspeedaheadbarcelona6502 7 ай бұрын
His eyes are really close together.
@busterzigler7530
@busterzigler7530 7 ай бұрын
Nedved looks like Football Version of Seann William Scott
@Gingerninja738
@Gingerninja738 7 ай бұрын
Stats dont tell the full story
@audecosta
@audecosta 7 ай бұрын
Nedved deserve it
@shahedtheboss
@shahedtheboss 7 ай бұрын
Imagine if raymar made the video about messi☠️☠️
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