WHERE IS ARE WHAT IF HYDRA WON PART 2!!!!!

@ScreenCrush How does a person being a male or female give them the abiity to ignore annoying people or not?

Why no breakdown of Doctor Who "The Giggle?"

IMO, The show was more insulting by having to *REDUCE THE MAN* in order to *UPLIFT THE WOMAN*

And recent Death threat from toxic fans and terrorist groups and the writer of the show got in trouble with the FBI.

I kept scrolling to make sure someone made this point. Thank you for writing it all out lol

Bingo. I didn’t feel it broke the MCU at all.

That Feige looks like a Robot to me. It was still dumb and made Gwenpool antics look normal.

To piggyback off of this, I think the most interesting way to have Jen show up somewhere else is *as a TV show*, maybe even a show in Daredevil's world where he's still in the red suit. Not have her break out of that show... yet... but establish that She-Hulk is fictional and does not exist, so if and when they do use her it's weird for everyone involved.

@@SanguineRoku Maybe in the real MCU, Bruce doesn't have a cousin, and is aware of and consents to this show about a fictional cousin of his in lieu of a show about him that people wanted to make... and then his fictional cousin breaks the fourth wall somehow and becomes real. Maybe real Bruce hasn't gone back to Sakar and retrieved a son... yet, but the fact that the show threw that twist in makes him wonder what he qua Hulk got up to during those three lost years, and then he really does go and it turns out he does have a son...

Yah - that's when I stopped watching this

Exactly. He proved why it’s not a good lawyer show.

I was so confused

literally came here to either look for answers about why im too dumb to understand and found out from this comment that its just that this video was too dumb to explain it lol either way im confused as well lol

I stopped watching after 7 Minutes, because he was talking so much bs. He really said this was a love project and it just needed more money hahahah. The budget was like 25 mio per episode

Disney somehow finds a way to just bleed money on recent projects. Movies do not look 100x better but they for some reason cost 100× more than they used to Dosnt help how over paid actors are and how overbloated with money the entertainment business already is....

DON’T GIVE THE WRITERS IDEAS!!!

Exactly, She-Hulk is a self-contained series, the idea that the show breaks the universe is little absurd.

@@clee027 yeah😂

@@thehacker4012im with you… but on the other side we as fans love when movies / series are connected

​@@famousgoldentouchyou mean you as fans. I just want entertaining films

thanks for this worthless theory

lmfaooooo@@usware5240

I'm fried sir and this absolutely makes sense ☝😌

I actually like this and this is canon for me now. All 4th wall breaks are by hyperdimensional beings who can perceive the audience kinda like us mortals can daydream hypothetical conversations.

@@BuckyBarnesATL It is a worthless theory though. At this point several fans have proposed way better ideas for the MCU which the actual executives do not care to follow because they have their own set plan. And for all that it’s worth, their set plan has been showing some huge cracks.

Also, if Luke Skywalker spent two movies talking to the camera, I wouldn't be bothered if he pulled a Jen in Empire Strikes Back. It'd be funny. The idea that a show with 700,000 viewers ruined a franchise that regularly sells 40,000,000 tickets per movie is missing the forest for the trees in most of these debates. People tend to think the thing they don't like ruined it all while ignoring most people aren't even aware of the thing they didn't like. When the movies do poorly it's because of the movies. When the shows do poorly it's because of the shows and the movies.

Not true , k.e.v.e.n literally would let the different ending happen if she didn't said to

@@begumhasina1052 But it was still him doing it. He asked her how she thought it should end and he implemented her suggestions but it was still HIM making the changes not her

@@ujamaa4 she interepted the story that Kevin made . It's like saying just because you made a powerful being to do someting you didn't had a part on at

@@begumhasina1052 That's just it, she didn't MAKE him do anything, K.E.V.I.N. chose to take her suggestions. He could have easily said no(in fact he did to some of her suggestions), he just didn't, that's not her doing, it's his. That's like somebody saying "You should rob a bank", then you do it and try to blame the person who suggested it when you get caught

@@ujamaa4 that's not telling rob the bank if you stop ending differently what would she do if Kevin said no

I agree. It reminded me of Harvey Birdman or the Venture Bros.

⁠@@TheCloveartBoth brilliant and underrated shows. I wish the MCU could actually pull off something so sharp, but as OP said, focus is just not a thing.

@@thestarseeker8196 Right I think the execs just aren’t bold enough to do something like that. Plus it obvious that they are aware of the fans’ dissatisfaction, but they are clueless to find a balance of new ideas and good writing.

@@thestarseeker8196 Im not one of those people who rants about the MCU being doomed, MCU could pull it off but it needs to pay its writers better. She hulk writers were being paid less than minimum wage so they were crapping eps out. We got what disney was willing to pay for. With Venture Brothers wrapped up Doc Hammer is free to write the Fantastic four movie i always dreamt of. They probably wont do it, but a boy can dream.

@@OMGSAMCOPSEY Underpaid writers is still the execs’ decision and signing off on a bad script also falls at their feet. I don’t think they are doomed either, but their mindset and direction for content will continue to hold them back.

Deadpool is a parody.. she hulk is taking seriously.. there’s a difference

@@Sams_I_Am She Hulk is a comedy

@@wallynelson6983 ok.. but what’s your point?

@Sams_I_Am My point is that She Hulk didn't break the Marvel universe any more or less than Deadpool has by commenting on how these are just movies, or rewriting the endings of their movies or show. Deadpool using a time travel device and 4th wall knowledge, she Hulk breaking the 4th wall and talking to K.E.V.I.N.

@@wallynelson6983 I think you’re missing the point.. for starters Deadpool is not apart of a larger narrative.. he can break the fourth wall in his movies because they are not taking seriously.. however, the mcu is supposed to be taking seriously as a reality to the characters.. if she’s breaking the fourth wall by visit the writers of the show or k.e.v.i.n what would stop her from doing that in an avengers movie? U don’t think ppl in the audience won’t point that out.. can u imagine if you’re watching James Bond and all of a sudden he starts breaking the fourth wall.. it will take u out of the movie, especially if it’s not the tone or already established in the movie

The last episode was likely based on the ending of Grant Morrison's Animal Man, where (spoiler alert!) Animal Man meets and confronts Grant Morrison about everything they made him go through and convinces them to rewrite/undo the death of his family.

Exactly. Everyone losing their shit over this clearly missed that obvious fact, despite over-analyzing every aspect of the show! SMH

"I just have some business to take cate of off-world. I should be back son. SOON!"

In a legal show, Jenn should've used her legal skills to take down the bad guys. We rarely see her do this and it's especially frustrating that the finale is just a big goof rather than actual payoff.

@@ThePlayTyperGuy Yeah, I would like to see her take Todd down in court, just to see what the charges are in the new timeline. Owning a right-wing website isn't illegal, and neither is complaining on the internet, as we're always doing that. Stealing Jennifer's blood was the crime needed to put Todd away, and the things that happened like sending Josh to seduce her were all done to get her blood. If Todd didn't want her blood in the new timeline, what did he send Josh and the Wrecking Crew for? Or did he never send them at all and he's completely innocent of all charges? Or did he only send them for no reason but to humiliate Jennifer? I think the TVA should put Jennifer on trial for changing the timeline.

Exactly!!!

It did harm to the MCU, not itself. That's his point.

@@manniking233 first y’all need it to be comic book accurate, now the most comic book accurate show is a problem. At this point if Feige sneezes the wrong way it’s going mess up the MCU.

Pretty sure he used to work for complex or other company like them pre-covid

It seems nobody is able to relax with this show. It felt odd that people were butthurt when in the training flashback with Bruce, Jen as She-Hulk acted like an ape and shouted “man! Man!”

Keeping aside the interconnectivity if the universe aside. If this is a standalone show, even then the finale is utter garbage because none of the story lines that were brought up throughout the show were resolved organically. She did a pause and re-write and voila we are at the end of the show where it worked out in the best possible way for her 😂

@@keerthichandra376 thank you for stating the facts!!!

I agree, I really think people missed the point of the show. The anger over her saying that women control their anger all the time, BEFORE she found out that she couldn’t control her rage over getting revenge-porned, for instance. It’s a whole story and not just one episode or scene. Taken as a whole it was great.

Actress is fine. It's nearly everything else, especially the writing....

I mean, I don’t know I think that having a woman that’s buff in green paint would kind of take you out of it even though the CGI was horrible making she hulk the size she was, and with Tatiana’s face made a lot more sense

She hulk was terrible. I gave up after 2 episodes of secret wars...

She hulk forsure

I dunno if Secret Invasion was trying to push a sterotype narrative so hard.... It wasnt good but the series didnt actively seem to want to insult people that may be watching with just some of the most badly written perspective. The whole She-Hulk series tried WAY too hard to make it's audience try and relate to the ultra pretty successful lawyer with superpowers we were supposed to weep for because she is a woman and had it SO HARD. Like imagine if the whole secret invasion show constantly included the breif conversation between Fury and "Rhodey" about "people like us have had rough times" but put that in EVERY EPISODE. I can agree people suffer due to prejudices, racism, and sexism but ypu don't need to beat me over the head with it every episode. No one who is already racist or sexist are dedicated to watching these shows anyways, so why do the people watching it need to be lectured about it every episode? Especially in Jens life as pretty successful lawyer, I'm supposed to weep for HER?

That’s a tough choice. That’s like asking which is worse: spoiled milk or moldy beef?

argh jeez. so how is deadpool gona fit in? its like the musical scene in the marvels. i liked she hulk, wasnt great but wasnt bad. we finally had a top notch female character for a change that didnt need LOADS of screentime to establish. i think this is all down to people getting upset that the canon doesnt match their dreams, which of course, canons get messier the longer they continue. if you dont let show risk breaking the mould/upsetting your imagined universe, you'll never get anything that goes beyond the 'formula'. and then the whole mcu would defo fail. at the moment all this mcu failure talk is conjexture because its got messy after so many productions. this unforutnately is natural

It was She-Hulk! And the show was exactly what I expected and I loved it. Will folks react the same way with Deadpool 3? I doubt it.

@@frankmccormick5499 exactly!

​@@frankmccormick5499Deadpool won't be trash hopefully

@@ctimehaynes it's the same team as the first two Deadpool movies PLUS Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. What did you think of those?

Chill

​@@jessem3552 we know you're liking comments about the m-she-u

​@@jessem3552chill on what?

If you thought this was a great show, you’re the person who needs to get out more and experience some good things in life 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣

Have you seen my dress up darling anime it’s of slice of life Compared this to she hulk.

I'm sorry no... just no

I agree with you, sadly ppl on the Internet can't handle someone having a different opinion. This is good street level marvel and I'd like more.

​@@Super_Broly. Issues with Hulk: Blood plot, Skarr and Daredevil Intro and the finale. Worshipping She Hulk because you hate the people who criticize it doesn't change these problems. Criticism is not always about hate. Sometimes, it is about allowing the stuff you love to be fixed, so the real dark people who hate for the wrong reasons can be exposed easily.

Same. I really enjoyed everything but the finale.

Engage in Hyperbole much?

No More True Words Have Ever Been Spoken

Fool me once with them fake titles and thumbnails.. SC wants to stay in good graces with Disney, that's all. Talking up every bull crap series and movie whilst crushing his already sold nerd soul

😂😂😂

Everyone does

Yeah, the "positives" are a stetch for sure. Everything the writing room did I think they expected women everywhere to stand up and applaud or sonething they pushed an opinion and narrative so hard. They thought they were being so groundbreaking and progressive but really they just created a show for people to be soured on because of how pushy it was with it's views to the point where it lost any cohesive plot. One episode would be badly written court drama, the next it is a girl power romp where somehow twerking is empowering...to suddenly a story about "wow MCU writes bad endings" and "whoa! Incels are the worst huh?" It's like the whole series was written by upset women internet trolls themselves.

The worst finale.

Don’t like it in my opinion

Didn't watch the series

I was less irritated by She-Hulks finale than I was at Multiverse of Madness. They can’t all be winners I guess.

Beyond terrible.

Movie goers and TV watchers are different than comic book readers. Generally in comics there is so much going on that many only pay attention to one at a time. They read Spider-man way more than anything else like X-men for example. A world changing event can happen amoung ALL the comics but for example Spider-man faces his own issue and then maybe joins a bigger fight, but even that fight may be in another comic like Secret wars, not spider-man comics. I think people more easily separate and take each character as it's own thing in the comics whereas in the MCU it IS more about the overall world story. If you watched it just for Thor then you are only seeing a fraction of the MCU and you cannot exactly make a whole fanbase on JUST Thor and not the MCU. The She Hulk show was new, she wasnt part of any greater narrative yet but as this video says she already has universe breaking powers that don't come off well as a joke in such a small kinda side story so far. She will be part of the greater MCU eventually and if she is doing more than making just quips or jokes to the audience then why cant she just hop into Disney+ again and say "hey this Kang thing isnt working right? So let's jjst say Dr Doom is here instead" it couod be a funny joke but considering she actually changed reality already MCU fans will say "why not again?" Whereas comic fans have already LOOONG learned that it is just a joke and no one saw this shit while reading the 500th X-men comic so it gets lost in the zaniness, not so much in the limited spotlight of the MCU

When she breaks the fourth wall in the comics, does she trash Marvel like she did in the show? And do her fourth wall breaks in the comics take the place of an actual resolution to the story as it did here? Her fourth wall break here wasn’t just a funny little thing. It was a major part of the story and basically took the place of simply writing a good ending.

@@Dan55888 I know what you are saying but I'm a comic and TV/Movie watcher and so is the guy who made this video. So he claims anyway. So I was wondering why for the guy making the video this was a problem.

@@mariosargiropoulos1715 Yes, she goes after writers and publishers and resolves problems by breaking the 4th wall.

Why?

@@johnwerner69 In my opinion, ryan overestimates the qualities of the show, that was poorly conceived from the start in all fronts. The problem isn't make fun of it in the finale and break canon to "fix" the plot, is release all the previous episodes as they were from the start... The only good thing in She Hulk, to me, is Tatiana Maslany, who can shine even with the bad material she was given to work with.

@@Rodytohti that’s fair! I really loved the show

It was the worst show in decades. You think?

@@johnwerner69 I'm glad you enjoyed it, friend, wish I had as well.

You clicking and commenting on it tells them otherwise.

You’re right silence is much better than feedback..who r u again?🤪

@@tjm6794 “who are you again” is not the burn you think it is when you too are in fact a nobody.

@@HistorySkate I didn’t call u a nobody I asked who u were loll if the answer is nobody then what a shame🤷🏻‍♂️ at least you’re cool with that. Don’t comment back I’d rather not get into it with an NPC

@@tjm6794 guess who’s back

Jen Walters is no Mary Sue.

Have you ever heard the theory that men are big babies when they get sick?

Hulk can't deal with anger as well as She Hulk because he was abused as a child and literally had multiple personality disorder to deal with. Maybe stop being so sensitive and competitive.

@@meatyyumsteve yes Bruce attempting suicide is because men are babies, not man shaming at all

@@ladypeyton we don’t know any of that to be true about MCU Bruce genius and even then he would still have more experience dealing with his anger, and yet the show said none of that, they just said “construction workers look at my ass so I’m mentally tougher” blame the show for its lazy reasoning for a central tenet of hulks persona being chalked up to men being pussies it makes sense that’s how this generation empowers women 😂

Thank you

It was sooo poorly done. And, also, I have no issues with Meghan Thee Stallion, but a twerking She-Hulk set women's sufferage back by a few decades at least.

Like who is wanting to watch an MCU show where a gorgeous woman says "it's so hard to date... boo hoo" Yeah must be tough choosing who you decide to date when you have unlimited options.... that every guy is some weirdo creep, like she is so hard done by by choice... Pretty woman with a successful career gets superpowers... and her career just benefits MORE from it? Oh so relatable. They just assemble her as this nearly flawless character and it is supposed to be a story we empathize or endear her to us? If I had Jens "problems" I would be jumping for joy