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James Spader's performance is still great. Hope they bring him back

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i hope they bring this character back in the future. He has so much potential untapped potential I honestly wouldn't be suprised if he has another copy of himself out there

I think Ultron was terrifying because I believe he's not dead. He lives in the computer networks of our entire planet and if he gets into an advanced robotics manufacturing facility again, he will build a new army.

There's something very eerie with Vision during the dialogue with Ultron and during Wandavision finale when he confronts himself, Paul Bettany did a good job with the character and the way he talks

I really like Ultron. For an evil killer robot, I think they gave him some personality and was actually a dangerous threat.

Ryan: Ultron is a weak villain Ultron from inside the movie: Who ... who said that?

Ultron's reference to children being "smaller people" is meant to parallel Tony calling Haweye's children "smaller agents." The reason Ultron is so sarcastic and smug is because he is a clone of Tony Stark's personality. In fact, the movie goes a long way to critique this Achilles heel the two share. If it weren't for the rest of the Avengers, Stark himself would be getting knocked all over the place as well. It is a brilliant use of storytelling to show the team itself will be indispensable for the coming threat. What If...builds a bit further on the message that this was specifically Tony's flaw and Ultron could have evolved despite that if he'd acquired full use of the mind stone. It's literally Tony's ego the Avengers are fighting (including the additional "puppets" as backup).

Real talk though ScreenCrush, there's no way Ultron is the weakest villain in the MCU in any real way. Most villains especially in the earlier phases were worse than Ultron. Stain, Red Skull, Ronan, etc. Ultron no matter how you slice it is better than most villains in the MCU even if he was a disappointment. He at least had a goal, a human side, and other things guys like Maleketh, Pierce, and......that guy from Iron Man 3 wish they could have. I think Ultron is comfortably in the top 10 MCU villains objectively speaking, your not really convincing me guys like Dormammu or.....that group from Doctor Strange are better villains. In fact aside from a few rare exceptions like Loki, AOU is pretty much the starting point for good villains in the MCU. You'd be pretty hard-pressed to find someone to say unironically. "Man.....Thanos was great, but you know what villain was really better? Red Skull".

Ultron's final words to Vision are what I love most about him... "You are unbearably naive."

"Ultron seems like some cartoon villain" lol meanwhile, Ultron in the cartoon....

Despite all its flaws, the single thing that made me LOVE this movie the way I do is James Spader's voice performance. I thought he did absolutely the best anyone could have with the script he was given.

He’s just like thanos his goal doesn’t involve the avengers. He knows that they’re not strong enough on their own and only becomes worried when they steal vision who locks him out of the net

By not giving him metal lips that were articulated, that always bothered me.

Comics Ultron was supposed to be an unbridled expression of Hank Pym's self-loathing. Ant-man was never satisfied with himself. His power was to shrink. Early comics Wasp was always ogling other guys. Eventually he tries to impress his wife by becoming Giant-man. Then Goliath. Then Yellowjacket. He never felt he measured up. Ultron thus hated Hank because Hank hated himself. Only a few mainstream comics actually did a really good job reflecting this. By contrast any time Tony didn't measure up he rebuilt his armor...but not himself. I was really hoping the movies would lean into this but with Iron-man, since his MCU arc is similarly self-deprecating. Missed opportunity...he targeted humanity, but would have been better for the movie if he made it personal.

Ryan one minute: Ultron is so weak! He tried to kill the world with a city and failed! Ryan when the ad plays: *I carved an entire chicken in the break room.*

"You want to protect the world, but you don't want it to changes, how is humanity solved if it's not allowed to... EVOLVE?" - Ultron Ultron defeated the Avengers permanently with this one line.

Age of Ultron should have been a 2 part movie. It had so much potential to be great but joss whedon goofed hard.

Ita embarrassing for a super AI not having backups. Anyway, the movie explored him bad,cause Ultron would be much more powerful like in what if. First backups. Ultron could just clone himself thousand of times. Second, no need to show himself at first, he can just turn off thousands of global servers... Well this can go on and on just talking in the ultimate AI with internet acess

Personally I feel an easy way to make him a better villain would be for him to start out as weak and exactly like Tony. He gets his ass repteadly handed to him and remade, and he acts like Tony each time. However, there's a notable progression throughout- he starts becoming more powerful, makes less witty remarks and his voice sounds more robotic with each fight. He anticipates all their moves and yeah, begins to use all their tech against him. Eventually the final evolution we see of Ultron would be the comic Ultron, one who is able to take all the avengers at once and almost rarely even talks. Showing ultron not only developing his skills but his own personality, as well as emphasizing his hatred for Tony, seeing Tony's hypocrisy, negligence, ambition, previous actions, and his attempts to fix his sins through more violence as the sole reason for humanity's downfall. Basically viewing the man he was designed to be, and his creator, as the worst thing humanity has created.

I’d say he’s a pretty good villain to split up cap and tony, cause Bruce to leave, and make the world turn against heroes. Only when all of the avengers unite is he less imposing but he beats up tony until he doesn’t care about the fight in Johannesburg. Against cap he mops the floor with him and just leaves when he loses the cradle.

I liked the movie, but yeah, I cannot disagree it was more of a comedy than action packed, but it was during the period of time, when marvel had just the right amount of humor, and the jokes didn’t feel forced, I think WandaVision was mocking how the modern MCU is.

When the Hulk throws Ultron out of the Quinn jet, Ultron stats "for God's sake" does that mean Ultron believes in God???

You missed the point then. Ultron showed the avengers they could out class and outfight him, but they couldn't stop it. He even ripped one of his bodies apart to make the point. Stark had to create vision to put an end to ultron. Another big strong villain they punch would have been a 'ow a big guy/ army ' they need to take down. Don't forget he won, his actions led to civil war which ripped the avengers apart. By having the avengers spread out then allowed thanos to just send lackies to earth, separated stark, spiderman and strange from the rest making it easier to end up snapping half the universe away. Now imagine, a villain you keep knocking down but the guy gets up every time ending up multiplying himself (a hydra by any other name) not over the course of years but days. Then add on ultron trying to evolve into the body that fortunately became vision, fail at it but still need vision to finish him off. Ultron by far not weakest.

I'm pretty sure Ultron got the upper hand every time he tried to do anything since his inception...

Imagine that Ultron's defeat was part of his plan, and then after, idk 2 more movies, the rest of the drones that were storaged (the one oeter throws in spiderman no way home? the film with the guy with robotic wings) and he came back powerful as **** :)

I kinda like how Ultron is kind off goofy since he is created by Tony Stark, which has the same attitude. But would've liked it if they toned down the goofiness a little bit and make him more menacing.

11:47 I’d argue that What If’s? Ultron became perfect EXACTLY because he got Vision’s body.

You're a great content creator. Your criticism for them to improve is on point. The heroes and villains must grow in balance a formula for a great movie.

1) Ultron 2) Killmonger 3) Zemo 4) Joker (from _The Dark Knight)_ 5) Magneto 7) Draykov 8) The Vulture 9) Ego 10) Starro The Conqueror The best comic book movie villains in my opinion.

Ultron was the best villain. Because he was created by the hero, powerful and intellingent. And because of James Spader.

Ultron was new to life and emotions as I think he acted like it. When he returns, he’ll be far wiser.

Okay....very elaborate video. Damn it was good. I so want Ultron back in live action

I think Ultron could've been way more menacing had he not been quipping and being a comedic relief for half the film and he actually got to shine as a terrifying villain with some doses of dark humor, like Heath ledger's Joker.

Good video once again. Thanks.

Ryan, Thanks for another good one! I really enjoy these full reviews. Screen Crush is just the best. I want to say, to be fair to Age of Ultron, that his minion-bots in What If... E9 were also comically useless. I was shaking my head and comparing them to Storm Troopers the whole time. Dozens of them surrounding Natasha in that room, blasting away, and NOT ONE struck her. Preposterous.

I think what you said about Ultron having different models to fight the Avengers is a really cool concept. One I wish I could have seen in Age of Ultron and What If. Like How does Ultron beat the Hulk in What If? If he had a Veronica equivalent pinning him down, that would have made more sense to me instead of just seeing him lying on the ground defeated.

You have to be consistent you only show three scenes of ultron losing when he got blown up, busted by hulk, and thrown by cap. Iron man only beat him because his quest was for the vibranium not for fighting and you can clearly see him trying to escape, against cap he had a couple good hits that busted cap and never lost just left because the cradle was lost, and against hulk he’d just been hit by the mind stone, iron man’s repulsors, and mjolnir. In reality he’s one of the strongest and most durable mcu villains so far and was a great villain. He may have not been terrifying to you but if he had been simply a murder bot he would’ve have seemed like an emotionless robot which people would’ve complained about when in reality he’s a complex and complicated villain who is like humanity but loathes himself for that.

When Ultron plays back Tony's comment about a suit of armor why did they make it sound like he was rewinding a cassette tape? lol

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They could’ve used Stark’s secret plans and make Ultron use them against the rest of the avengers, like the personalized Sentries. Not only would it make Ultron a more intimidating villain, it would expose Stark’s secrets due to his fears giving more build up through the tension leading up to civil war.

7:36 That’s the best reference clip to use for that part 😂

14:02 Thor's encounter with Thanos outside Wakanda is a nice allusion to this conversation. The MCU writers are more on point than you realize.

Ultron: sets up Avengers Zemo: knocks down Avengers

Great job- dissecting is what you do best!

As much as I would have loved a more comic accurate Ultrom , it would have needed a endgame type army to be dealt with and the MCU just wasnt there at that point. Killing main characters just wasnt in the table and WhatIf taughts than the avengers were really lucky in the main timeline

We hope he comes back as either an evolved villain with better understanding of why they fight for their goal... maybe even a better goal... OR we hope it comes back as an evolved character that's not so threatening.

He is the strongest in “What if”

Avengers: Age of Ultron was about the journey of the Avengers to become beings of mythology, true heroes after confronting their dark reflection in the form of Ultron, who believes that saviour figures like the Avengers are holding humanity back. Tony Stark is afraid that he has no control over the future (Why didn't you do more?) and Ultron is that fear bought to life. Ultron sees himself as the saviour the Avengers wish they could be and in a way he has a point. When Ultron first meets the team, they're celebrating a victory that in Ultron's mind they haven't earned. People like Strucker are still around standing in the way of real peace. Ultron comes to the conclusion that as long as humanity has free will, peace will never be achievable. Ultron is desperate for control to a point where he is willing to get the population down so he can rule over what's left and force them to act in accordance to his idea of morality. Ultron's way of achieving peace would be undeniably better for the world statistically, but when you take away humanity's choice to do bad, you also take away any chance for personal growth. We see this in Nick Fury and how much he's changed since Winter Soldier. Ultron says there are no strings on him but his entire sense of self worth is tied up to proving his way of doing things is better than what the Avengers have been doing. "Nothing last forever" - Natasha Romanov "Trouble, Ms Romanov. No matter who wins or loses, trouble still comes around." - Nick Fury There's a Greek marble statue of the Avengers at the end of Age of Ultron. Hawkeye's wife calls the Avengers "gods." The Avengers are brought down to earth (Clint's farm) from high above the world (Avengers tower) to be reminded what the most important part of being a hero is; preserving life. The Avengers end up with a bunker that much like Hawkeye's farm is closer to the ground and more connected to humanity. This shows that Stark and by extension the Avengers have overcome their resentment and need for control and have come the accept their role in the world as preservers of life. Also Vision is Jesus and him lifting Mjolnir shows that the Avengers have divine approval. Symbolism The reason Zack Snyder's movies are so terrible is because there's no conflict or clash of ideologies. When the heros fight the villains in a Zack Snyder film, it has all the depth of a violent football match. Comedy and tragedy is where drama comes from. You need one to contrast and enhance the other. This is how they did it in ancient Greece and it's worked out pretty well so far. The MCU doesn't take itself seriously so when they do, it's more effective. If you've ever wondered why the MCU has been dominating the box office all these years, here's your answer.

So glad you mentioned Ultron’s opening scene. It’s one of my favorite sequences in the MCU and I wish they would have kept Spader in that tone and delivery more often.

They shouldn't have given him a moving face. It would have been a lot more intimidating

It could be argued that the MCU is still in the age of Ultron. The superhero registration mandate in the Sokovia Accords, the government jumping in to control the Avengers (ie CA: Civil War), and Vision/Wanda’s relationship which is now at the root of the Scarlet Witches anger and depression, even creating Billy and Tommy (to eventually lose them), all were sparked by Ultron’s creation. So he may not have been as menacing as he could have been, but the Age of Ultron is still alive and well.

lmfao remember how menacing he was in the trailer ahh they really got us there

He literally almost wiped out earth. No threat? An AI was 'born' and conceived a plan to eradicate mankind in one minute that he almost succeeded in if not for his daddy issues towards his creator. In my opinion this doesn't deserve the backlash it's still getting to this day by far. Even though he had more potential, it was always gonna be an inbetween movie. If only a part of him was still alive. Annihilation Conquest would be a fun story for him to return in!

AoU is one of my favourite mcu films, because it’s the only one where the avengers just go about avengering. Assemble is them getting to know each other, Infinity War has them separated and Endgame is a fetch quest with a massive battle. AoU has an effective, established team working together

I disagree with a lot of points in this video. Ultron caused the wider public to start hating the Avengers, with the Sokovia Accord as a direct result from it. Letting him enrage Hulk and destroying Sokovia, he caused that the Avengers lost public support. This was one of his main goals, showing the world that the Avengers are not so great as everyone says. Moreover, he never needed to win a fight, he just needed to stall, like in the last fight he is just stalling for the city to rise further. And in de earlier stages of the movie, he wasn’t a great fighter, but he never lost. He was basically unbeatable, when you destroy his body, a new one returns. This gives the feeling that you’re fighting something unbeatable. True, they could have improved his fighting skills and make him more violent or something. But to say that he was a bad villain, goes to far for me.

Since this movie came out after winter soldier, it would have been really cool to see ultron download and use all the secrets released from shield to exploit and bring down governments/people from around the world to create a more chaotic world during and after the movie.

I Think We needed another movie after age of ultron and before Civil war , because we needed to see avengers working together , yeah we got something in the begining and climax of age of ultron , but it isnt even close to comics and animated shows , we needed a movie in which avengers go against A group Of Villians like thunderbolts or masters of evil as they try to divide them apart [ like in civil war but they don't fall for it ] and they realise the power of team work and fight them together....

I felt the exact way. The trailer felt like this was going to be dark toned menacing film/villain. And when I saw it , I was bemused. Ultron is a great character and what if... ? Definitely did him justice.

All Tony had to do was: Give Ultron a better objective like: Protect Earth from hostile alien threats. Instead he told him to: "Keep peace in our time" which is WAY too vague of a porpouse to give to an AI.

This had some amazing potential to be a dark superhero team movie.

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This movie felt like it was a comedy/action movie. That's why I love Infinity War! The feeling I get whenever Tony Stark and Dr.Strange step outside to see the city panicking from the giant spaceship looming over, gives me chills every single time i see it

What also makes this movie great is that it has pretty much the only depiction of the true nature of The Hulk: a rampaging force of nature, a beast that can't be stopped but ultimately struggles with how the world sees him

He seems like a comedic villain. Maybe they'll bring him back in the future in a different way. And if anything, he makes Thanos look even more like a villain. I don't know if it was purposeful but it came out that way.

I think I agree with this, but the intro plus him cutting an arm off was pretty intense. Idk why they couldn’t just make his intro extended where people die as a result of Ultron hacking the avengers tower and anything automated like doors closing on someone or even make things scary like a blender suddenly turning on. Idk maybe even have ultron be the reason rhodey gets injured instead of civil war because of some freak accident in the tower

Ultron kidnapped Widow because Banner had a role in making him. Hence why he says he has no one else like Banner being able to confide in Widow.

I wish at least Ultron succeded to crash the asteroid, so we could witness the coming apocalypse, only for Wanda to contain the life-ending explosion in a trans-like state like when she created the hex in WandaVision.

Love your videos as I always watch your review videos after every show that comes on. Love it! I agree with you, Ultron was one of the (if not, The) best villain in the MCU to date. However, don't you think your elaboration on Ultron was always losing, done for a reason? I feel like, based on your elaboration, that they made Ultron always one step behind the Avengers, just like AI is in real life. Kind of to show that humanity/society will always trump what is made by us, because it was essentially made by us. No matter how much we try to create a super intelligent AI, it will always be one step behind us. I feel like every Avengers movie has a subliminal message regarding what is going on currently in the world, under the glitz and glamour. Cheers mate.

I know it’s been said here before but MAN, Spaders voice acting is like 12/10. When they first announced it I knew it was gonna be a home run since I always enjoyed his voice in the Office. I also love that we saw his mannerisms in Ultron.

There was a point in this video where he said this movie was just a setup for the next few movies and that really is the bottom line of "Avengers: An encounter with Ultron over a few days that gets us Scarlet Witch and Vision on the team"

15:34 That sounds like batman in that animated movie named Justice League Doom

I think the only thing I was missing in this story was Ultron attempting to lift Mjolnir. What does that look like if he can and what does it say? What does that look like if he can't, and what does that confirm about Vision and his differences?

Ultron in the comics: he hides his conciousness in the world wide web so he was never trully beaten, and each time he comes back, he becomes more powerful. Ultron in the MCU: Vision casts hin out of the web, so he was down in 1 movie. Also, he didn't really have enough time to prepare his scheme like other villains in other movies.

I bought in because of the trailers but in the theater I felt Ultron was simply a means to move the Avengers along. He didn't seem to be written to be at his best. Just get us to the next movie.

Ultranationalist in what if is way more intimidating than ultranationalist in age of ultron. I think that ultron was still a great villain

The same problem happened in Avengers 1. Loki never felt threatening, he just kept getting beat up

What I find interesting is that weve only seen the avengers fight NEW villains. Thanos JUST got the stones and didnt really understand how to use them other than the snap. Ultron was a newborn really. If he had longer he may have become more powerful and intelligent

Ultron was planning to put his consciousness into The Vision, who is inherently indestructible. There’s only so many resources Ultron can have and facing the AVENGERS, Earths MIGHTIEST Heroes, of course he will get beaten, as Loki did when he didn’t have the team united. That is why Thanos waited, until the team was separated, because like the Other said, “to challenge them, is to court death.” Also Ultron is still out there, he may not be a main villain but I hope he comes back, he was intimidating to me, he drove the Avengers to near civil war and made them use his vision to stop him, otherwise he would have easily won. Ultron got me into the MCU and I can’t wait to see more content with him

Is there a behind the scenes conflict video I can watch? I didn't know about this.

Fair enough, but that guy was scary lol

A villain should never be menacing. A villain should challenge the ideology of the protagonist(s) and force them to grow in new and unexpected ways that's why Ultron is the best MCU villain.

He’s just like Thanos but worse .. Joss Whedon really just didn’t care about this villain at all

What If gave us the reason why Ultron mustn't possess Vision's body at all costs. Even if it is the reason why Ultron gets defeated in the movie, the creators really could've done better and use up a lot of references in the comics yet we only started to see more creative references and originality on the later movies. It was just the hype of us watchers that time that as long as we know it's an assembled Avengers' movie, we will always gonna like it. The only thing that we have to remember is that Ultron is right on pointing the flaws of our heroes and the consequences have surfaced on Civil war, Infinity war and Falcon and the Winter Soldier series. Extinction should be the last thing to do which is why Ultron is meant to be defeated but that villain should've not been treated as a joke.

What if Ego was successful in recruiting Starlord?

They could do a surprise return as the final villain that does all things you mentioned here like he was in the What If… episode but do that with separate movies like they did with Infinity War.

Your idea about Ultron only having a handful of sentries, each specifically designed to defeat a particular Avenger, is so cool to think about. It would have provided us with multiple unique battles and would have also allowed Ultron to challenge each character on a personal level, delivering monologues that give us an alternative view as opposed to the Avengers being near-perfect heroes. I'd love to see an iteration of this in a future MCU film.

To make Ultron a true menacing villian is I believe in the celebration scene where he first arrives he needed to kill one of the avengers. Maybe Mariah Hill. This shows what he’s capable of. A good kill would’ve been an execution of sorts. Having all eyes on him

Well, he tried. I've never seen a comic book in my life, so I wasn't disappointed. AoU is still my favourite film in the MCU.

That would have been sick! If ultron had made a couple different bots based on Tony having a plan for each avenger if he had to take them out....great idea man! How much better would that have made that movie? Don't get me wrong I liked it, but that would have made it sooo much better

What If absolutely delivered us an upgrade in the menacing department, and I was so glad to see that point represented here. Every single moment of both his episodes I was left wondering if he was actually going to win, and his complete and utter lack of any kind of empathy or really even care about anything but his directive was downright terrifying. Immediately splitting in half the one big bad that we’ve seen be a legitimate threat in the MCU and assuming his role in the universe immediately established him as a legitimate force to be reckoned with. Never thought I’d lose sleep over an animated show but Vision-Body-Ultron did that for me 😅😅

Pietro's death meant the most to me wymm 😭 that was what made that movie worth watching

The scene where he was talking to Natasha about meteors was my favorite scene with Ultron until he cracked a joke. That is exactly what I wanted Ultron to be.

I think we were spoiled by the version of Ultron in ‘What if’

Make some video about the MCU Vision. He has the most amazing lines and conversation in año the entire MCU. "What is mourn if not love persisting" is my top one.

I think the terrifying factor in Ultron's introduction is that even after you destroy his duplicate first edition physical copies... he's still in existence lingering nearby or across the planet already on phase 2 of his plan

we need an “age of ultron” recut that fixes all these ultron scenes with new scenes

I agree with you, Ryan, Age of Ultron is not a perfect movie, however, I just love it. I love all the dialogues and it's also full of great action scenes. In my opinion Age of Ultron > Civil War.