How Shiv Had The Most Tragic Ending | Succession Finale

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@constitutionalcarrot3720
@constitutionalcarrot3720 Жыл бұрын
Matsson will fire Tom in 6 months.
@fezario
@fezario Жыл бұрын
None of this would have happened if Kendall had not put his feet on his dad's desk. That triggered Siobhan.
@SuperHeroNexus
@SuperHeroNexus Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment.
@Hamza.Mustafa
@Hamza.Mustafa Жыл бұрын
Finally someone. Need not to mention when she says "My dad - he couldn't fit a whole woman in his head" and the camera shifts to Gerri and Karolina and then towards Kendall, well because Kendall couldn't either. Rava and Shiv are the examples.
@shukrans7623
@shukrans7623 11 ай бұрын
Shiv is a desperate who tried snaking them so many times but failed miserably, at least Ken was making good moves in the end
@mjw1111
@mjw1111 Жыл бұрын
Shiv is still very, very wealthy. They are all very, very wealthy still. The absurdity is even Greg as an assistant is making more money than 90% of American households. Only 10% of American households earn more than $200,000. I enjoyed the fact that in the end none of the Roys won out. In the end, it was never really about who ended up being CEO. It was always about trying to be worthy in the eyes of their father. It was always about how tragic these people were. None of them can love, none of them have any integrity or values, none of them have a purpose and ultimately they don't have family. Despite what Logan said, he did nothing for his kids and they end up with nothing - except money. They are all awful, awful, petty, vindictive, abusive, and useless people.
@tandoor2081
@tandoor2081 11 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I was feeling by the time I watched S3 ending. I know I'm supposed to be immersed in the family drama. But in the end they're absurdly rich people. All 3 are gigantic billionaires. I mean am I supposed to feel sorry for them? Yeah I do feel about their personal equations but Kendall being so lost in the end, didn't really move me at all. I mean you're still a billionaire. Boohooo you're a sad billionaire. But still a billionaire.
@trixiebell25
@trixiebell25 Жыл бұрын
The only person Shiv is loyal to is herself. We've even seen Roman show some kind of hesitation at betraying his father, but Shiv will turn on anyone in a heartbeat if it benefits her. It makes her utter hatred of Kendall hypocritical since she's just as bad as him.
@shukrans7623
@shukrans7623 11 ай бұрын
She's worse than Kendall, at least he tried fixing everything at the end and she ruined it because she got caught snaking with that annoying Matson more than once
@annkey4091
@annkey4091 20 күн бұрын
In a backhanded way, I thought Shiv was loyal to her father (she voted to sell the company); loyal to her husband (she made him a CEO and is having his baby) as she agreed to do in Season 1; had Logan keep Tom out of jail. I do not understand why everyone insists that she had to be loyal to Kendall, Roman and Connor? The siblings built nothing. She made herself and her brother richer then they would ever be under Kendall and Roman. How does a woman with Shiv's resources get trapped in marriage? How does a woman with her resources be made to sleep with man if she does not want to, even her husband wants her, to keep his job? What?? As their father told them, build your own pile. He gave then a head start.
@Cole_leo2107
@Cole_leo2107 Жыл бұрын
All of the siblings needed to get far away from the toxic dynamic and empire their dad created. The company would’ve been the death of all of them tbh. Especially Kendall. He was going insane and in my fantasy future he’ll be better from an emotional standpoint and so will Roman. They didn’t want the position of ceo they wanted to prove to themselves and their father that they mattered. They were competing for love. They all need to heal and move on.
@Daewonnni
@Daewonnni Жыл бұрын
The ending was a chef’s kiss.
@untouchpuertorocnyc1301
@untouchpuertorocnyc1301 Жыл бұрын
She was wack for that - if it wasn't her running the org, she wasnt going to give control to her siblings. Terrible person.
@Dapryor
@Dapryor Жыл бұрын
I think her husband (and father of her child) taking the CEO position had more to do with it than anything. Your immediate family should generally take precedence over your extended family.
@lestonthompson8495
@lestonthompson8495 Жыл бұрын
None of the Sibs ever had control of Waystar, the board and share holders had control. The senseless power struggle the Sibs had amongst themselves only hurt each other. If they truely wanted to take over and Run their fathers Company then they would have had to buy it like Matsson did.
@maddy7
@maddy7 Жыл бұрын
My hubby & I believe that Logan Roy won from the grave. He wanted to sell his company to GoJo and that is exactly what happened. As Tom said in Season 3 to Kendall, Logan always wins. Kendall was all alone in the end with Colin (Logan's former driver) watching over him; Roman ended up back where he began; and Shiv wanted Tom and had to suck it up and stand with Tom. We noticed Tom extended his hand as he's now changed & feels about Shiv as she did in the first 3 seasons~~their roles are reversed. As far as Greg, it's a shame he didn't get the boot but we believe Mattson and Tom will be using Greg to take the fall for anything especially bad with the new merger. Also, I'm sure Greg's salary will be clawed back dramatically as Mattson now knows Greg is a traitor. Great writing by Jess Armstrong and ending this show on a high. We thoroughly enjoyed this show.
@NoMoney67
@NoMoney67 Жыл бұрын
I hate the fact they were all cool and all on board at the house then at the board meeting she changed her mind. 😅
@SuperHeroNexus
@SuperHeroNexus Жыл бұрын
Yeah it did feel like total whiplash but in hindsight she’s been like it a lot
@fangal12
@fangal12 Жыл бұрын
I think she had time to really think about what benefits her most. Ultimately how does she benefit siding with Ken? We saw at the beginning of the episode she asks Tom if it's possible for them to have a real relationship, maybe it's not possible but by making him CEO she gives them a chance. It's the first time in their relationship that she took it on the chin so Tom could ascend
@TheAssailedTeacher
@TheAssailedTeacher Жыл бұрын
I think Kendall's arrogant way he handled the meeting trying to ram the vote through and how he gave himself and Roman credit for getting such a good offer from Mattson (when it was her that did it) pushed her over the edge. It's really a fitting ending for Kendall, who came so close so many times only to fail at the last minute.
@Emy-fv5ny
@Emy-fv5ny Жыл бұрын
@@fangal12 Mmm that doesn't look like Shiv at all.
@kevinsmithfan37
@kevinsmithfan37 Жыл бұрын
she picked tom because tom was honest with her. if tom didnt tell her it was going to be him she assumed it was going to be Lawrence. with that as the assumption she would have picked Ken, but because Tom told it was gonna be him it did 2 things. the first being is he was being honest with her. by keeping her in the loop when he didnt have to which Ken literally did the opposite and if she voted ken the 2nd he was voted in he would have begun the process of freezing her and roman out. 2nd building off that ken would have frozen her out where as Tom sort of proved he would keep her in the loop if it was him. oh 3rd reason with ken/tom it wasnt going to be her, so lets play out the outcome. if its ken basically she doesnt get a say, she doesnt get the money and effectively ken is in control of her net worth cause if he runs waystar into the ground her worth is tied up in the share price so she would literally lose hundreds of millions if Ken couldn't measure up. on the other hand if she votes to sell she not only has Toms ear, she also makes hundreds of millions if not billions from the sale rather then have that risked in the hands of Ken. finally she gets to fuck over Ken which in a way means she sort of won cause she can always frame it as her being team Tom and she iced out her brothers so her and her hubby could sit on the crown.
@nancyferrier8609
@nancyferrier8609 Жыл бұрын
They are all better off not trying to be Logan 2.0. They now have a better chance of pursuing their own path. And Shiv doesn't have to prove she can be a distant corporate Mom.
@TinTinner77
@TinTinner77 Жыл бұрын
I am disappointed that Shiv didn't go after Matsson (verbally or even physically) after finding out he played her all along. After all, Shiv NEVER holds back when she is upset with her brothers, Tom, or even her Dad/Mom. They should have done a scene with Shiv facing Matsson and giving it to him....would have been a great scene!
@jasonmiradoli8900
@jasonmiradoli8900 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. And yet, I think the point was, at the end, all of them were nothing, nothing to be taken seriously, but nothing. Like dad had said... and made them turn into.
@elizabethr4107
@elizabethr4107 11 ай бұрын
She's a coward at heart. She only pushes when she can't get hurt
@fightsports66
@fightsports66 11 ай бұрын
You get into arguments with your parents and siblings partly because your family cares or is supposed to care about how you feel but what would be the point of going after Mattson? This is just a business transaction to him, he couldn’t give a rats butt how she feels.
@Javier-qk7ms
@Javier-qk7ms Жыл бұрын
Tom made Shiv to accept the deal because he knows her ambition would make her stay with the CEO, that is why he told her he was the chosen one. Shiv knew Kenn would dispose her after voting against the deal.
@eduardofarias6810
@eduardofarias6810 Жыл бұрын
Nah. She made that because she wouldn´t want any of her siblings being the successor other than her. God, she choose a husband who would let her being rap@d just because of power and for a guy who have a weird fetichsm with blood. Many people is falling in this argumentation of "was pure strategic", but not, This was a self desctruction of "If i can´t have it, none of them will have either". She became what she feared the most: her mother and her stepmother, women who achieve power only by they husbands.
@misssaddityone6297
@misssaddityone6297 Жыл бұрын
Can't feel sorry for a group of billionaires who didn't get to run Dad's businesses into the ground.
@pambennett3390
@pambennett3390 Жыл бұрын
Best series finale of all time.
@nforc3r
@nforc3r Ай бұрын
Thanks for spoiling VEEP 👍🏾
@FaithfulAZ
@FaithfulAZ Жыл бұрын
She still came out in too with Tom.
@mrg1911
@mrg1911 Жыл бұрын
So sad, they sell the company for billions and we are supposed to cry for them. They are all putrid people, especially Shiv..... While I watched the entire series, I'm glad it's over.
@christophersalay
@christophersalay Жыл бұрын
Someone making an emotional, erratic, self-defeating and implausible decision for the purpose of narrative is not my idea of “tragedy”. So What comes first, Tom and shiv get divorced. Or Tom gets fired? She gets nothing in this deal.
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