What If Gohan NEVER Stopped Training? FULL STORY

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What If Gohan NEVER Stopped Training? FULL STORY
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Chapters:
0:00 - What If Gohan Trained Before the Buu Saga?
8:48 - What If Gohan Trained Before Battle of Gods?
11:50 - What If Gohan Trained Before Resurrection F?
14:29 - What If Gohan Trained Before Goku Black?
26:30 - What If Gohan Trained Before the Tournament of Power & DBS Broly?
After the Cell Saga in Dragon Ball Z, Gohan famously slacked on his training. While it is presumed he never fully stopped during the seven year time skip - he at the very least wasn’t consistent which led to many problems going forward through the arc. Notably this isn’t the only time Gohan slacked on his training. In the four year time skip between the Buu Saga and Battle of Gods Gohan has seemingly stopped training all together - with Resurrection F showing us the consequences of having Gohan completely give up on training. However, what if Gohan didn’t slack on his training during the seven year time skip? What if Gohan NEVER stopped training at all? I’m not saying to make him the main character, rather what if the same scholarly Gohan also made time to stay strong in order to protect the people he loves? A Gohan more akin to the Gohan we see during the Tournament of Power Arc. Well, our story starts in the Buu Saga of course.
After watching the video feel free to leave any and all counter points in the comments below - I love a good discussion.
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@matelavado5337 3 жыл бұрын

Frieza: *keeps comming back* Gohan: How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man??

@meek7765 3 жыл бұрын

@Casual Bejito I believe that was retconned because in the broly movie the kept saying he was too young to take up after king cold

@speedstick8954 3 жыл бұрын

@@meek7765 they can still live for yhousands of years I'm pretty sure

@meek7765 3 жыл бұрын

@@speedstick8954 yeah probably I was just saying hes only like 50 now

@paysonfox88 3 жыл бұрын

Freezer -- Until you put delicious food into me man! I am a Freezer after all!!!

@matelavado5337 3 жыл бұрын

@Casual Bejito it makes sense to me

@supergamer-o4637 3 жыл бұрын

This is what Gohan Fans dream every night...

@harze4ever773 3 жыл бұрын

shut up man lmao 😂😂😂😂

@alysadek8566 3 жыл бұрын

@darthmaul7477 3 жыл бұрын

Lmao you damn right

@dregamingz 3 жыл бұрын

I love Goku. But they ruined Gohan. He should have continued to train.

@Xxiz268 3 жыл бұрын

@@dregamingz he wpuld be a god

@nathanstice8456 2 жыл бұрын

Just to add something…Gohan would be ideal to teach Broly how to control his rage/power as Gohan has the same issues of his anger releasing uncontrollable power.

@SonGoku-of4bm 2 жыл бұрын

sounds very nice. i mean Broly isn't a bad guy. *ignores old broly*

@crazymartin526 2 жыл бұрын

@@thechannel1098 the fuck has good to do with any of this

@erikailhan 2 жыл бұрын

Like bruh he only got power out of rage once and never used the form he got ever again

@muscleman6188 Жыл бұрын

Ohh yeaahh. And that would be interesting to see how the interact!!!

@garlicsalt317 Жыл бұрын

@@erikailhan if you mean super saiyan 2 he used it in the buu saga multiple times...

@thebadburrito1394 2 жыл бұрын

I know this is a year old, but I think Vegeta would have pushed himself even harder in training if he even got a whiff that Gohan wasn’t being lazy. I actually think Gohan not being lazy would have driven the two to be closer training partners since Vegeta was a huge believer in Gohan’s potential, especially after Cell.

@aaryayt7747 2 жыл бұрын

He even acknowledged it in super as he recommended Goku to recruit Gohan for the universe 6 arc

@hitomtom4278 2 жыл бұрын

imagine the chemistry of Vegeta bonding with Kakarot's son. Gohan would be a mediator between the two. Imagine how Gohan would have an effect on Majin Vegeta! God dammit Gohan...

@Bitchslapper316 2 жыл бұрын

Well yeah. Gohan is the only person Vegeta actually respected up until after the Buu arc.

@hichaeljordan963 2 жыл бұрын

@@thechannel1098 bitch I am Goku

@ThaARossBoss Жыл бұрын

Amen

@singletona082 3 жыл бұрын

'imagine the tournament of power. But Gohan beats the piss out of everybody.' That made me smile.

@ismaelpena8860 3 жыл бұрын

We all know that wouldn't happen!

@oli8522 3 жыл бұрын

@@ismaelpena8860 gohan would have mopped Jiren if he never stopped training and trained with whis

@effectx7490 3 жыл бұрын

I laughed so fuckin hard. What if he *Beat the piss* out of everyone

@75JUNAKI 3 жыл бұрын

Ismael Peña Yee

@ismaelpena8860 3 жыл бұрын

@@oli8522 there is no way in hell that can happen! Jiren is stated to be stronger than a god of destruction, gohan will never be nowhere near that level!!

@hamzafawad9331 3 жыл бұрын

Alternate title: *"What if we got the Gohan we deserved?"*

@Sin_Falimus 3 жыл бұрын

He said "I'm not saying to make him the main character" then proceeded to make him the main character Real alternate title: What If Gohan Became The Main Character Of DBS

@DarkJinxWasTaken 3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@DarkJinxWasTaken 3 жыл бұрын

@@Mercurystars4202 lol dad bod gohan

@DarkJinxWasTaken 3 жыл бұрын

@@Sin_Falimus yeh pretty much

@salmasnik1604 3 жыл бұрын

Correct

@jinxtheunluckypony Жыл бұрын

I love that every time Gohan sees Frieza breathing he takes it personally.

@titanictnt7476 Жыл бұрын

Well, to be fair, the man beat his ass as a child multiple times, and nearly killed his second dad.

@Frieza-the-editor 9 ай бұрын

Second dad is absolutely crazy💀

@justincovington2334 8 ай бұрын

How many times do I have to teach you this lesson old man?!!!!

@Persac7 3 ай бұрын

And his first@@titanictnt7476

@p.p3152 Жыл бұрын

With Gohan’s new power and attitude at the end of Super Hero, I hope we get a Gohan who does balance all aspects of his life and becomes Earth’s mightiest protector

@windghost2 Жыл бұрын

Like he should've been. I hope that it happens as well.

@pn2294 Жыл бұрын

😂 Yeah that’s not happening

@overland_brew8197 Жыл бұрын

@@pn2294 after superhero it most likely will

@idontcareballs7270 Жыл бұрын

@@overland_brew8197 no it wont The next arc is about goten and trunks

@idontcareballs7270 Жыл бұрын

Sadly the next arc will be about goten and trunks

@OurKindofEntertainment 3 жыл бұрын

People talk about Gohan and what if he NEVER stopped training, but no one ever talks about what if Chi-Chi NEVER decided to sit around on the sidelines and fought to get Gohan the recognition he deserved as the man who defeated Cell! Seriously, she's all about money and education. However, she never thought about how if her son was recognized as the world's savior that would pretty much guarantee his future! GREAT VIDEO AS ALWAYS!

@orlandobritt1460 3 жыл бұрын

Good points she be most likely weaker the Yamaha

@OurKindofEntertainment 3 жыл бұрын

@@orlandobritt1460 lol when I say 'fought' I'm talking more along the lines of getting help from Bulma (considering she has enough pull to get media attention) to put the message out there that Gohan and the others are the REAL heroes!

@brucegodines5989 3 жыл бұрын

No one would believe that it wasn't Hercule who saved them tho

@stevenjohn486 3 жыл бұрын

@@orlandobritt1460 bra think her husband goku. Could be, she might have kiokien or any of techinicks goku has learned.

@r_yyadav 3 жыл бұрын

Can anyone make if " Gohan didn't become the great sayianman or golden warrior but still fought Criminal I know this will not really change the series but I just want to see that

@JustSomeDude848 3 жыл бұрын

Alternate title: "what if gohan became the main character like Akira Toriyama had originally planned"

@Future_sight_katakuri 3 жыл бұрын

Pffft, I wish

@midgetydeath 3 жыл бұрын

Originally planned? Unlikely, I think Akira is a liar. He claims Piccolo is his favorite character (if I remember correctly) yet does him nasty in DBZ as a sideshow. Supposedly Gohan was supposed to replace Goku, yet he is thrown away as some sort of idiot who doesn't train to defend against whatever threat comes next. No, he wanted Goku to be the main character. Goku was his boy from the very beginning. Other characters overshadowed Goku in popularity and so had to be kicked to the curb.

@mohammedkhaled7867 3 жыл бұрын

@@midgetydeath no the goku fans begged so goku stayed main charecter

@immortalfrieza 3 жыл бұрын

The fans loved Goku way more than they did Gohan and that's why Goku was brought back and took center stage again. This was Toriyama's own fault really, he wrote Gohan as (brief power awakening moments of awesome aside) a spineless coward in a FIGHTING SERIES who was more of a liability than anything else which annoyed DBZ fans. Aside from his fight with Cell Gohan's only contribution was to function as a plot device to hold the villains back until Goku could show up. In a fighting series of course Goku, a kind and gentle warrior with a strong training ethic and endless bravery is going to sit better with fans than a guy like Gohan.

@LilEquazy 3 жыл бұрын

@@midgetydeath i mean we just gotta trust that Toriyama isn’t cappin.

@thelastyles 2 жыл бұрын

Gohan was originally written to surpass Goku. As a kid they said he was stronger than Goku. So he could of been the main character. I think that would of been better than still having Goku. The torch should of been passed a long time ago.

@The_One_And_Only_PudgyPenguinx 2 жыл бұрын

Gohan is so bland though.

@hieuduong2213 2 жыл бұрын

@@The_One_And_Only_PudgyPenguinx gohan might be biscuit dry, but goku is just straight up eating sand dry

@kingf6766 Жыл бұрын

tbh i think Gohan should be the MC at least until the Buu Saga. He should be the one to beat Buu in his Ultimate form. After the Buu saga, Goku can be brought back to life and take back the mantle.

@Contemplatingspider Жыл бұрын

@@hieuduong2213 cappity cappity

@HenSt-gz7qj Жыл бұрын

that's what Toriyama intended, but then many fans thought Gohan is too boring as a main character and DBZ took a hit on its popularity, so they bought Goku back and put Gohan aside.

@WAVESVSV Жыл бұрын

If gohan kept training: Jiren: GET ME OUT OF HERE

@iscreamanimation 2 жыл бұрын

12:58 can we appreciate this really good Frieza impression he's doing?

@vidallopez955 2 жыл бұрын

ONG

@boltzrevoltz2287 2 жыл бұрын

Oml That's golden

@MrJagdepplin 2 жыл бұрын

On point. I didn't even realize it was a non canon line.

@BrolyLSSJ01 2 жыл бұрын

I almost thought it was actually a line recorded by Chris Ayres. So good!

@Blanoble 2 жыл бұрын

Shit was way too good bruh

@georgebrowniii3850 3 жыл бұрын

bro carthu’s frieza voice is really accurate actual good job man lol

@skaterboi65 3 жыл бұрын

I was literally thinking that lol

@tastedivinefury2198 3 жыл бұрын

Thought it was tfs‘s freeza for a hot minute

@jadc8193 3 жыл бұрын

It sure is

@hemireborn6450 3 жыл бұрын

But he says zamas instead of zamasu

@Rude_Boi 3 жыл бұрын

@@hemireborn6450 Thats how his name is said in Japanese

@Pandapold Жыл бұрын

To be honest i think Gohan would be a realy good main character if they would continued

@OMAR-vk9pi Жыл бұрын

Good joke

@tsawy6 Жыл бұрын

@@OMAR-vk9pi Like. Gohan as he is presently written is obviously pretty bad, but I think the character has some good bones? Someone who's a bit of a dork, a lot of a nerd, but also contains a supreme suppressed rage is kinda neat? That rage is something they seem to want to build upon, but have frankly done a pretty poor job of showing imo. And the union of Saiyan and Human is a theme that they kinda have a bit with Goku but could have expanded upon more explicitly than they have using Gohan. Videl would also need to be improved, because the Videl Gohan relationship should be more central than the Chichi Goku one. Goku does a good job with strength for strength's sake, and a decent job of idiot hick mc (tho I understand that a few shonen do this, and Goku isn't really the best), which is kind of a natural fit for dragonball and it's themes, and that does lead to some good moments, e.g. Vegeta's tournament of power speech, but I think that Gohan could be written well.

@OMAR-vk9pi Жыл бұрын

@@tsawy6 yeah gohan isn’t all horrible he’s just not fit to be the main character without turning him to a different Goku is my point he’s should be written better and be involved though as like the 3rd strongest fighter

@hunnidshottas1808 Жыл бұрын

@@OMAR-vk9pi well now look at gohan…he’s BACKKKK AND HE GOT DA HATERS MAD HE WENT DOWN HIS OWN PATH AND REACHED BEAST HE BOUTA B SMACKIN SHIT…

@Dark_Trap998 10 ай бұрын

@@OMAR-vk9piCease to exist!

@xenowreborn 2 жыл бұрын

"Imagine, The Tournament of Power... except Gohan, just beats the piss out of everyone he fights" my favorite line in ANY of carthu's what if's

@kordaysmith2731 Жыл бұрын

He would have an easier time with his new form he probably could have beat Jiren if not weaken him

@Blooming_Aster 2 жыл бұрын

"The Tournament of Power, but Gohan just beats the piss out of everyone he fights" kills me every time

@Blooming_Aster 2 жыл бұрын

@@thechannel1098 What?

@yahyakhan268 2 жыл бұрын

@@thechannel1098 go kidnap some children catholic priest

@sankeethganeswaran3024 2 жыл бұрын

@@thechannel1098 gohan solos jesus bozo

@lusterlessnova3199 2 жыл бұрын

@@Blooming_Aster It's a bot. Pay it no mind.

@deinocheirusthebestduck5447 2 жыл бұрын

@@sankeethganeswaran3024 no

@hualni 3 жыл бұрын

Let's never ignore the fact that Vegeta once proclaimed the Gohan had the greatest latent ability of everyone.

@sapnavora6834 3 жыл бұрын

Frieza has better latent ability since he went from being weak than super Saiyan 1 to being as strong as blue in 4 months

@alexanderalaniz7287 2 жыл бұрын

@@sapnavora6834 well Final Form Frieza was about equal to Super Saiyan Goku in the namek saga even after all the damage he sustained. It's arguable that had he not sustained the spirit bomb damage he'd have been even stronger than SS Goku. But the stamina drain of his 100% final form was greater than the stamina drain of SS.

@katusakirocks5630 2 жыл бұрын

@@sapnavora6834 Gohan should by evidence, has superior potential. Due to him being strong enough to 1v1 a full powered SSJB Goku fairly I’m only 9 days.

@pavaopsihistal6989 2 жыл бұрын

@@katusakirocks5630 goku wasnt going 100% when they fought before TOP and he still defeated him. If he went all out he would have merked him

@katusakirocks5630 2 жыл бұрын

@@pavaopsihistal6989 Where exactly does it state that he wasn’t full power? Or did you just assume that without any upper evidence?

@LegoWhis1 2 ай бұрын

'Goku plot armor is so strong that it stopped gohan from training'

@johnrobertgabihan5233 10 ай бұрын

gohan is just a goku with different hair in 11:20 lmao

@Aqwtiny 3 жыл бұрын

Alternative title, what if Gohan had sold enough merch to justify remaining the face of the franchise instead of Toriyama having to pull out halfway through the Buu saga?

@sophi1321 3 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@ShimaS-0079 2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@chewezx1767 2 жыл бұрын

Gohan was extremely popular in the Cell and Buu saga. Toriyama outright stated he felt Gohan wasn’t “suited” for the role.

@ShimaS-0079 2 жыл бұрын

@@chewezx1767 man buu saga Gohan was trash. Even as a kid watching I'm like wtf did they do to Gohan. I know he was t a fighter in his heart but still. I just started rewatching the original English run. I'm up to cell games. Now. Buu saga as a whole isn't written very well. Hell I think dragon ball super was bad till about half way into tournament of power

@chewezx1767 2 жыл бұрын

@@ShimaS-0079 Yeah I agree with you completely. I’ve always thought the Buu saga is where most of DBZ and DBS problems began tbh. In Japan, Gohan was a top 5 character in popularity by the end of the Buu saga, but Toriyama was tired of writing Dragon Ball and ended things as quickly as he possibly could.

@BlindBison 2 жыл бұрын

One-Armed Future Gohan is the most bad-ass character in the whole series.

@Crumbsyyyy 2 жыл бұрын

This was a very nice and presumably accurate what if like the res of them. Thank you, Carthu.

@niteshadeshimonzu3305 3 жыл бұрын

13:00 that frieza impression was literally perfect

@christopherfleetwood5252 3 жыл бұрын

Don't you mean it was Gold?!

@raycongaming9534 3 жыл бұрын

Now that’s a lot more Cooler

@nickyspeed7807 3 жыл бұрын

@@raycongaming9534 😂

@nickyspeed7807 3 жыл бұрын

@@christopherfleetwood5252 😂

@limitedlunar3954 2 жыл бұрын

@@raycongaming9534 thats cold bruh

@disorganizedbones8139 3 жыл бұрын

I keep forgetting that Broly is in his late 40s, he's made to seem so much younger like around the same age as Gohan

@MsMRkv 3 жыл бұрын

Cause saiyans don't age like humans.

@orlandobritt1460 3 жыл бұрын

Saying 40s more like human 20s

@disorganizedbones8139 3 жыл бұрын

@x I know that it's just he seems like he'd be much younger than Goku and Vegeta but in reality he's older than Goku and around the same age as Vegeta

@beauballas7771 3 жыл бұрын

It’s cause he’s immature and was isolated with his father on a desolate planet

@disorganizedbones8139 3 жыл бұрын

@@beauballas7771 I know this I'm just saying it, why do people keep assuming I don't know what I'm talking about I already said I know he's in his late 40s

@talon532 2 жыл бұрын

During the Goku Black Saga, I think eventually Gohan would probably be beyond SSB at this point with a new transformation. Plus I think he would've caught Whis' attention afterwards and would want to train him alongside Goku and Vegeta. At this point I doubt the Supreme Kais would be able to continue to train Gohan because he far outclass them. So it is only logical that Gohan trains with the Angel that trained the God of Destruction right?

@sunsetsamurai6170 Жыл бұрын

It would be useless

@Riphpia Жыл бұрын

no gohan wouldnt want to throw away his kai powers destruction wouldnt be a logical path for gohan since he doesnt like destruction this would always hinder his growth using god forms

@Bearman851 Жыл бұрын

So about a new gohan form...

@juliussmith109 2 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏 Really enjoyed this thank you!

@bumboldore8563 3 жыл бұрын

Says "gohan wont be the main character" proceeds to eliminate every threat while and goku and vegeta do practically nothing

@kenji9564 3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@zulfikhariftikhar8774 2 жыл бұрын

True, but it just prove that fact : You can't get Goku as the MC if Gohan trains really.

@mr.blacktea7298 2 жыл бұрын

Gohan was the certified chad when a child but now he looses to smelly krillin

@fromryuk7785 2 жыл бұрын

TBF toriyama said he kinda wanted to make gohan the MC and retire goku at the cell games arc completion. But it was poorly received so they rewrote goku coming back to life for the 10th(sarcasm) time.

@MrKing-he3eo 2 жыл бұрын

@@fromryuk7785 It wasn't poorly received. He thought gohan wasn't fit for the role on his own accord.

@JackieFuckingChan 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine if Gohan's character WAS changed after Cell and he decided to be a warrior rather than a scholar. Devoting all his time to training. He would be Jiren levels of power.

@WhiskeyPatriot 3 жыл бұрын

Considering how traumatic that entire arc was, it could absolutely be argued Gohan had every reason to train/maintain after it.

@Fitzftw7 3 жыл бұрын

If Chi-Chi wasn’t an influence, that’s probably what would have happened.

@JackieFuckingChan 3 жыл бұрын

@@WhiskeyPatriot Yeah. And losing his father could give him similar motivation to Jiren. Where strength is absolutely everything.

@matti.8465 3 жыл бұрын

That wouldn't really be Gohan though, not a lot to different from Goku.

@discipleaj 3 жыл бұрын

@@matti.8465 Kind of...but their motives whilst similar are centrally flipped. Goku is driven by the thrill of challenge and protection comes second. Gohan is driven by the will to protect his loved ones and the thrill of challenge comes second. Goku saw how powerful Gohan was when he was just a small boy and thought that if he had the desire to battle like he did, then Gohan would be unstoppable. But Gohan is only half Saiyan and whilst everyone rags on Chi-Chi, she is still a good mother because she wanted Gohan to not just be a brawler but a thinking man also. This is what enabled Gohan to be a good husband to Videl, because Gohan knows what self-sacrifice and honour are in many ways and so he is a much more well rounded individual than the Saiyans, who just tend to be quite one dimensional in a lot of their behaviours and thinking. The Gohan in this scenario from the video *is* the Gohan we want to see. A Gohan that knows that whilst he is a loving/devoted husband & father, a gentle poet and scholarly man, it is no good to him or more importantly anyone else, if he cannot defend it from evil - and he knows all too well the unrelenting thirst, that evil has for its own ways. And that is why he trains, considering he's effectively been up against the most horrifying genocidal and oppressive forces the universe can throw at him in his past, up to the point in this video.

@krishnansubramoni7801 2 жыл бұрын

I loved this 🧡. Also, great Freeza voice there 👍

@CosmicMumenRider Жыл бұрын

I think if this was to happen, Gohan would be enough for Jiren, think about it, Gohan unlocked his Beast form with little to no training, so you can imagine that if he kept training at a constant level in the 7 years between the Cell and Buu sagas and then the extra time leading from the Buu saga up to the ToP, he most probably would have already unlocked Beast and been able to train with it thus increasing its control and power to a whole other level, making Gohan stronger than both TUI Goku and UE Vegeta in just the ToP arc

@Sword_Man_YT 3 жыл бұрын

Goku Black: Mortal Ki surpassing God Ki should be impossible! Jiren and Broly: *Laughs in the distance*

@LeThickBooty 3 жыл бұрын

Moro: Hello there

@Sword_Man_YT 3 жыл бұрын

@@LeThickBooty Complete Ultra Instinct Goku: General Kenobi!

@Keegstar 3 жыл бұрын

@@LeThickBooty well, vegito isn't very mortal, it is the potara earings, gogeta is still cool tho

@LeThickBooty 3 жыл бұрын

@@Keegstar vegito is goku and vegeta who are both mortals.... how is vegito not a mortal?

@LeThickBooty 3 жыл бұрын

@@Keegstar fusion doesn’t change their mortal status, just their power and techniques and also their personality

@neotono5536 3 жыл бұрын

If Gohan trained with Vegeta in those 7 years both would infinitely stronger.

@fightfannerd2078 2 жыл бұрын

no Gohan would be way way stronger

@markjordan5478 2 жыл бұрын

Especially if gohan trained also with whis to

@rexjosephglorioso4868 2 жыл бұрын

Would be interesting to see Gohan having Vegeta's ferocity but with Piccolo's tactic. Vegeta and Gohan's dynamic would be similar to Cabba

@joshuafallet5690 2 жыл бұрын

@@rexjosephglorioso4868 I would have truly loved to see that.

@thechannel1098 2 жыл бұрын

Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved..

@ChrisSmithBass Жыл бұрын

Great work!!! I loved this!! Very well thought out!!

@tobyholkham568 Жыл бұрын

not only are you an amazing story teller but your freiza voice is on point

@Pr0digyZRX 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you... finally somebody who did a Gohan never stopped training video and didn't take Gohans ultimate form and throw it away for the SSGSS or something. Gohan should stick to ultimate. It's the only way that makes sense

@zulfikhariftikhar8774 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, i always imagined that Gohan's mystic form could evolve too, in a similar way than SSGSS (but i thought about that way before the SSG release x) ) just because i'm pretty sure that there was a moment when Piccolo or Old Kai (not sure, need to read the manga again i suppose) says something like "Gohan is that strong ? And he is not even using Super saiyen ?". So, for me, the Mystic form always meant to be his new Base Form, and he would be able to get something above (not necessarily a Super Mystic form, but why not ?) Or maybe just getting a new Aura, like Trunks did.

@haikukillyou1971 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly his “mystic” form is essentially the pre-version on Ultra instinct since he said he never wanted to resort to Super Sayian again and he essentially does a huge power up in base form. Largest difference being the obvious power scaling, aura he still puts off and the self dodging I could see them making his mystic or ultimate a human UI version.

@whynohappen3712 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. In the manga, gohan states that he wants to achieve a form of his own for his Earth side. So throwing it away for another super Saiyan form is horrible. He needs a form of his Earth lineage. After all he is the first hybrid Saiyan.

@cheetle6884 2 жыл бұрын

@@haikukillyou1971 Humans can use UI

@emerald1063 Жыл бұрын

@@zulfikhariftikhar8774 I mean know he has his beast form so we don't know

@gavinmerasty8369 3 жыл бұрын

"So how long is this ritual gonna take?" "Well usually it's about 24 hours" "Good thing its the week end-" "But for you its gonna take a week for you"

@frankpeters-fq8kv Жыл бұрын

it doesnt matter how much time gohan takes off he ALWAYS rises to the occasion and reaches those levels of power

@dokuhanjrkakarot4207 5 ай бұрын

This was defiantly one of the best What-if scenario's I've seen, considering Gohan's potential is often overlooked or ignored. And although he was given Beast in 2022, I still think he hasn't been given the spotlight enough/or trained enough to earn it in my eyes. I would really love to see Toriyama create a bond between Broly and Gohan considering they both have amount less potential not to mention many rage and power issues and uncontrolled power. Defiantly a Great job Carthu! 👍🏾

@StartTheJoust 2 жыл бұрын

If Dragonball is to continue long way to the future I have a feeling that eventually there will be another ”Gohan -saga” where his developement is the point of focus as he has the most undiscovered ground to his character as a warrior. Even the Mystic -form itself is something to be yet fully revealed how deep it can go. Writers must know that fanbase is very eager to get to the bottom of it and Gohans powers as well.

@PerritoGG 2 жыл бұрын

Well, it seems the upcoming movie will put Gohan in the spotlight. We'll see what happens then.

@guesswho7881 2 жыл бұрын

How much further in the future do you think, in the manga it’s mainly Goku and Vegeta in the last 2 arcs after the tournament of power, as goku increases his skill and vegeta pretty much training to be the next god of destruction

@Sh4dyGam3r 2 жыл бұрын

Isn't Gohan dead?

@-Cross_ 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah after 20 years this show will be dead by the time gohan gets his spotlight

@aaryayt7747 2 жыл бұрын

In the upcoming movie, There is something called "awakened ultimate gohan" IDK whether this is a new for or a boost but I'm pretty sure this movie will be the beginning of piccolo and gohan becoming even more relevant in the next arcs

@mydreamsxmeyou 2 жыл бұрын

I think Gohan should have trained with Vegita like he did with Piccolo, that wouldve been an amazing arc

@franciscopuentes6049 Жыл бұрын

Amen, Vegeta helps Gohan embrace his Saiyan side , while Gohan helps Vegeta embrace his humanity

@aiden7245 Жыл бұрын

The problem with Gohan is that he doesn't see a power beyond, Vegeta and Goku are always thinking about a level beyond. Gohan doesn't care, he only cares when he has to. Therefore he can't just training is not enough. If you train just for the sake of it sure you improve but what makes Vegeta and Goku stronger are the fact that they see a level beyond.

@jonathanmann8036 2 ай бұрын

If Gohan keeps training, there is zero chance he's not able to go SSJ3 during Buu arc.

@titanictnt7476 2 ай бұрын

Well, Goku forged the form himself. Gohan probably wouldn't think about evolving Super Saiyan even further, the way Goku did, since Gohan would probably not see a reason to, since he's already the strongest fighter alive.

@Subpar1O1 20 күн бұрын

Also SS3 is kind of impractical

@acedaboss3785 3 жыл бұрын

i feel like if gohan continues training, it would also make goku and vegeta stronger along with him. because vegeta would be upset that gohan is stronger than him and try to surpass him, and goku would probably be training harder being motivated by his son training hard

@face7288 3 жыл бұрын

makes sense

@butternutsauce 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely. Doubt they would get too far behind but remember, kid Gohan was light years ahead of both of them at one point. As a kid.

@mootzartdev 2 жыл бұрын

Vegeta actually really likes Gohan being strong i think

@shouryajain8847 2 жыл бұрын

@@butternutsauce kids do have more faster learning than adults have

@autop4987 3 жыл бұрын

Can we have a round of applause for that frieza impersonation ?

@dakongaming7054 2 жыл бұрын

You can't really tell the difference between the actual Frieza and him

@aidanoctis5771 2 жыл бұрын

With that alone, he earned my like

@saltysergeant4284 2 жыл бұрын

I mean, that's where all old school DB fans thought it was going to go. First, Goku was a kid, then he grew up. He had Gohan and we saw him grow. Eventually, through the years, Gohan became a teenager like Goku did. We all thought he was going to takeover Goku's role to save Earth. That way, Goku was now free to train and go explore the universe/multiverse and its otherworlds. If Goku dies in Universe 6, is it a different otherworld, with different Kais? Gohan could still be the strongest, but the family was written in and that was the end of that. I think we all want to see Gohan gain access to God energy. Who knows how Mystic form will interact with God Ki?

@juleslagarrigue199 11 ай бұрын

cart is actually a really smart alter dragon ball story teller. He inspired me to try to make an alter dragon ball manga and it was really fun. He should try doing something like that.

@emano6758 5 ай бұрын

Ok Ok ❤

@diegoaladdin86 2 жыл бұрын

Tbh trunks shouldve went to the past and said like "DONT LET GOHAN STUDY"

@poisoniori3185 2 жыл бұрын

Bruhh how tf would he know about Gohan studying after the cell and Buu saga if dude only saw the Gohan who never stopped training?

@diegoaladdin86 2 жыл бұрын

@@poisoniori3185 dude theres something called joke idk if youve heard any

@poisoniori3185 2 жыл бұрын

@@diegoaladdin86 your joke is very flawed vroo

@diegoaladdin86 2 жыл бұрын

@@poisoniori3185 it was funny to some people and it doesnt have to be accurate, has anyone told you a joke that isnt reality ever?

@poisoniori3185 2 жыл бұрын

@@diegoaladdin86 lmao bro a joke has to either be something that is true to both parties or something you just made up there is no way trunks can say "don't let Gohan study" and dude never knew Gohan even studied before,and I definitely know what a joke is because people I be around be having jokes everyday

@nycsellout4775 3 жыл бұрын

Long answer : he would have been stronger then goku and vegeta

@LeThickBooty 3 жыл бұрын

Short Answer: clapping videl’s cheeks makes him stronger than ever lmao

@Zoretsu 3 жыл бұрын

@@LeThickBooty lmao baki

@nycsellout4775 3 жыл бұрын

Deviyon Young lmao

@bobbo6912 3 жыл бұрын

you mean short answer not long?

@LeThickBooty 3 жыл бұрын

@@bobbo6912 nah my short answer for gohan was better 😭 he’s correct on the long answer

@bethelsheunesumasukume352 6 ай бұрын

It's already been 3 years. I'd love for you to continue with this story.

@federom2012 8 ай бұрын

My only issue with this is treating potential unleashed just like another transformation. I don't think that everyone necessarily has tons of potential to unlock, and even if they did, it doesn't mean that it would be as big as Gohan's. Taking Trunks to get it unlocked shouldn't be that much of a certainty, I think. Gohan having hidden power was something that was hinted since Raditz, it became synonymous with the character, so it made sense to end Z with that potential finally being completely unlocked, but it doesnt mean it can qork the same for everyone, I think. Otherwise, pretty solid scenario

@oMistyy 3 жыл бұрын

long story short... if gohan never stopped training. he would be a goat

@_Nyxc_ 3 жыл бұрын

Goat noises* MBEKKKK

@drjonesey5 2 жыл бұрын

No, if he was not written to stop training he would be. I think people need to start realizing the fact that writers are making these decisions for multiple reasons. Money, direction, politics, social beliefs, personal beliefs, personal likes, how they feel etc. I feel like there could have been a real easy balance to Gohan's progress without hindering the character or even having him overshadow Goku which clearly was the direction. Instead they feel the need to hinder Gohan which I feel is a bad business decision because nobody likes it. Even Goku fanboys and I do mean fan boys, don't hate Gohan they just whine that he shouldn't be #1. But the writers see this as a let's only prop up Goku kinda thing. Vegeta gets constantly played for Goku. The original characters get crapped on for Goku like what has anybody really done up until the Tournament of power arc. The main fights are always decided by Goku in the end with sometimes the addition of Vegeta and then at some point they drag out Future Trunks, Freiza, Buu, Broly so some fans can clap clap clap like seels.

@jahithber1430 3 жыл бұрын

Alternative Title: What if Gohan disobeyed his Mother?

@bookie2946 3 жыл бұрын

That wouldn’t be smart kaioken chichi claps the saiyans

@sujalchavan4822 2 жыл бұрын

@@bookie2946 base chichi slaps

@riven4121 2 жыл бұрын

@@sujalchavan4822 Base goku claps.

@gomgom9060 2 жыл бұрын

@@riven4121 base goku pounds*

@oslonicl6251 2 жыл бұрын

@@gomgom9060 💀

@nabbly Жыл бұрын

Holy crap, your Frieza impression is amazing!!

@AzumangaFan13 Жыл бұрын

That Frieza voice got you a sub, great work lol

@Areithous 3 жыл бұрын

Gohan: gets to unlocks Broly Potential The Universe: .....................

@jaywardhanraghu4822 2 жыл бұрын

🤯🤯🤯

@acfanjgill 2 жыл бұрын

The thought of unlocking Trunks’ potential blew my mind for some reason. I want them to really explore that in the show now 😂

@NA1c158 28 күн бұрын

Thank you for doing the voices! Thats a nice touch.

@ProtoSkullX1 9 ай бұрын

This made my day I’m love ur attempt of voicing frieza it’s sooo on point

@Ketamon. 3 жыл бұрын

Angel: Goku God of Destruction: Vegeta Supreme Kai: Gohan Ohh yeah. It all comes together

@gabesgames6099 3 жыл бұрын

Check mate toei

@andrewpinto9337 2 жыл бұрын

Welll..

@Christ_the_only_way 3 жыл бұрын

Gohan keeps training Plot: WAIT THATS ILLEGAL Jiren: Oh, thanks That was only a bad dream Also: almost shit in his aliens pants

@user-ou9no3sx4e 3 жыл бұрын

Gohan: DO YOU AFRAID?!?! Jiren: Kind of..? Gohan: BAZINGATTACK!!!

@user-ou9no3sx4e 3 жыл бұрын

@Fibbo0 I know. I just wanted to use that quote

@sophi1321 3 жыл бұрын

@@user-ou9no3sx4e are you afraid*

@user-ou9no3sx4e 3 жыл бұрын

@@sophi1321 What I wrote was literally what TFS Vegeta said in DBZ Abridged Kai episode 3

@sophi1321 3 жыл бұрын

@@user-ou9no3sx4e k gonna check

@mokobeetheentertainer Жыл бұрын

This is the world I has been waiting for.

@Elprimo_615 3 ай бұрын

Gohan should’ve been the main character

@dreamcake00 3 жыл бұрын

That was the best frieza voice impression ive ever heard

@Hedge_Knight_Gaming 3 жыл бұрын

I'd argue that Vegeta would be considerably stronger in this story than he was in the Buu Saga. If Gohan continued to train then that would have put a massive goal for Vegeta to reach, potentially having Gohan become, at least temporarily, Vegeta's rival. They could possibly even train together sometimes, since Vegeta is less grumpy about Gohan than Goku.

@janiceyellen3980 2 жыл бұрын

facts

@adrianmacklin418 2 жыл бұрын

I never liked vegeta. He couldnt reach ss2 without becoming a majin. He couldnt become ss4 without a machine built by bulma. Whenever he fights someone stronger like broly he hesitates and gives up half the time.

@czm7766 2 жыл бұрын

@@adrianmacklin418 Vegeta was already ssj2 before becoming majin

@adrianmacklin418 2 жыл бұрын

@@czm7766 doesnt mean everything else i said isnt right. Ever since after namick vegeta has been a useless winey baby

@adrianmacklin418 2 жыл бұрын

@@czm7766 also he never showed it before becoming a majin slave so are you sure?

@lusterlessnova3199 2 жыл бұрын

26:35 Okay, that was unexpected and got a good laugh out of me. Have my sub.

@glorplee 3 ай бұрын

you got a spot on frieza impression but that aside great video!

@williamcartertindale11 3 жыл бұрын

Gohan beating the piss out of his opponents is scary

@tootieruiz7695 3 жыл бұрын

This story really is just “we have an army” “well we have a gohan”

@chickbowdrie4750 Жыл бұрын

One change to your story I'd prefer is Gohan and Vegeta occasionally training during the 7 years. This would place them both at higher levels, not leaving Vegeta in the dust.

@squirreltamer2548 Жыл бұрын

Your Freiza voice is perfect! Spot on!

@Raynimator 2 жыл бұрын

".... Except Gohan beating the piss out of everybody" Lost it right there. Still laughing as I type this.

@Katsuki1031 2 жыл бұрын

12:58 that Frieza impersonation was spot on lol😂

@RagingSovereign 2 жыл бұрын

Unlocking his potential was at that age of Gohan during Buu Saga. Just as humans we have different optimum potential as we age. So different age has potentialy greater potential than his current state during the buu Saga especially if he continuously trains his body. Meaning his body can handle more power which makes him stronger as time passes by.

@wolninho8306 3 ай бұрын

I really hope this has a part 2, because it's awesome

@matter_1793 3 жыл бұрын

13:00 My goodness that voice is near perfection

@dannyballz1987 3 жыл бұрын

Well technically Gohan was the strongest individual character by the end of Z anyway. His unleashed potential from elder kai basically gave him the boost he would have had if he maintained his training.

@jamieroseman4429 3 жыл бұрын

Which is kind of paradoxical. At what level is the ultimate form? Is it equivalent to SS3? SS4? Is it around SS3 and whatever else its needs to be through training? Since Goku and Vegeta are constantly surpassing their limits and their potential. What does it mean for Gohan to surpass his ultimate form? Is he even able to ? OR is every power level he obtains now under the Ultimate Form.

@Danielsworlds 3 жыл бұрын

@@jamieroseman4429 I may be wrong but I think it's implied that the ultimate Gohan from old Kai is the limit that his body is capable of. I don't think that ultimate Gohan could get stronger in a meaningful way without the use of God ki. Now God he didn't exist at the end of Z so it's an argument of a lot of speculation but I think that ultimate Gohan truly is the limit of his mortal power

@Danielsworlds 3 жыл бұрын

But ultimate Gohan seemed to be more powerful than Super Saiyan 3 Goku but not as strong as a ssj2 vegito. So somewhere around there

@GoldWristX 3 жыл бұрын

@@Danielsworlds fusion is op you know

@Gorecatto 3 жыл бұрын

@Mike yes he was , the best way to see that is that goku fought with slighty advantage against Majin Buu , while Ult Gohan easily got on top of "Super Buu" Goku also takes up alot of energy to stay on SSJ3 , while gohan doesnt , since technically his base form is his strongest form So even if goku ssj3 and Ult gohan were in the exact same level , gohan would win by endurance (tho it could be said that goku has way more experience so he would win but gohan is not stupidy either , sadly we never saw gohan fight with finesse that goku has since he is always Way above or Way below his enemies)

@joellay6649 2 жыл бұрын

I love it man so awesome

@kevindavisjunior 11 ай бұрын

That Frieza voice was on point 👌

@joetyrant4713 2 жыл бұрын

If Piccolo trained with Gohan for the 7 years, Gohans mastery of ss2 would be achieved. He would be on par with ss2 Goku. Piccolo would also be much stronger having trained with Gohan and would be able to anticipate and evade Dabura from turning him to stone. Piccolo would join the team in babidi's space ship. Inside the spaceship, Vegeta and Goku take out Pui Pui and Yakon. Piccolo then fights Dabura after saying he had seen his technique and steps up to fight. Dabura and Piccolo have an intense battle. During their fight, Piccolo tells Dabura that he was once referred to as a demon king himself. Vegeta gets impatient and insults Piccolo for not being able to finish Dabura quickly. Babidi sees that Vegeta is primed for majin control and took notes that Piccolo was was evil himself and succeeds to turn both Piccolo and Vegeta into Majin. Vegeta challenges Goku and Piccolo pretends to follow Babidi's orders, being able to control himself because Kami can influence him too. I could keep going forever but that's a good concept

@stevenlopez6625 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@Seizoo 2 жыл бұрын

Good comment is always welcome, thanks

@detroid_ntr26 2 жыл бұрын

Better than the video lol

@holorn1280 2 жыл бұрын

Piccolo could not train Gohan to even ss1 level, it was thanks to Goku mastery that he could learn the form. Piccolo would not be stronger training with Gohan as namekian and sayan don't gain power the same way and at the same speed. Piccolo is not evil at all since he fused with kami to become who he were (the original namekian), he's actually one of nicest guy in DB now... Piccolo has no chance against Dabura who is close to the power of Cell, there is a reason why he just not fight even though is still training.

@joetyrant4713 2 жыл бұрын

@@holorn1280 you underestimate Piccolo's growth through training. He went from losing to 3rd form Frieza to being able to get the better of Dr. Gero in just 3 years training with ssj Goku and base gohan. After his merging with Kami, and training in the time chamber I would put him above #17 in power. If he would train for 7 years with Gohan who is a ssj2, he would definitely get way stronger than in the cell saga just from the conditioning alone. Keep in mind Dabura is weaker than Super Perfect Cell, as Vegeta states that Gohan was stronger during the Cell games. As Gohan gets even stronger through mastering ssj2, it's safe to say that Piccolo could reach to be around Dabura's level. Might not be able to win, but he could hang with him. Also, Vegeta wasn't really evil either, Babidi just needs a little bit of conflict inside someone to infuse them with Majin power. Piccolo can still be aggressive towards his enemies, seeing as he doesn't hesitate to kill when he needs to.

@justinperez977 3 жыл бұрын

That frieze voice was perfect. Props my dude.

@c0unterac342 2 жыл бұрын

This is my third time watching this upload... Still just as good as the first watch

@SpectroUzumaki Жыл бұрын

pre-gohan beast

@windghost2 Жыл бұрын

Now I need post Beast Gohan vs Jiren, Kefla and Broly. 1v3 BABY!

@Mannyindahouse 2 жыл бұрын

I like how you make Vegeta not object to Gohan handling fighting the big bads himself. In the original he would've been more arrogant about wanting to partake in the fights.

@charliewaldock1667 3 жыл бұрын

Now this may be shocking to some of you, but imagine. The Tournament Of Power, except Gohan just beats the piss out of everyone he fights." That made me smile haha

@iooskylineooi5039 Жыл бұрын

I’m smacked rn and found your channel again and this shit is some quality weed. I mean your content is amazing bro

@ahmer4021 2 жыл бұрын

The frieza voice over is so nice i love it lmao

@Dubleduke 3 жыл бұрын

Gohan, seeing the Frieza force spilling out around him: “Aw shit, here we go again”

@zenkairanger 3 жыл бұрын

I can answer this with one sentence. Gohan would be as strong as he is in Broly 2. Canon or not, that’s a Gohan that never stopped training.

@franciscopuentes6049 3 жыл бұрын

Amen bro

@fuzileluthandodalessandro2532 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that Gohan in the movies never stopped training. To think Goku, Vegeta and Trunks who were older at the time couldn't handle Broly individually but Gohan could.

@Funtime_x 3 жыл бұрын

Wait that gohan never stop training!

@Funtime_x 3 жыл бұрын

Does he have ultimate?

@nathanmontgomery1516 3 жыл бұрын

@@Funtime_x no that movie universe is entirely different from the canon

@sandhikneaj7029 Жыл бұрын

The Frieza expression was absolutely perfect.

@chzzzythegolden6806 Жыл бұрын

Yo carth. I totally forgot, you do your, own, timelines “what if” so i am ,sitting ,here watching this one my stupid ass thought you were doing a short recap, all about son gohans, powers, screaming like thats not right only half way through to realize. You -ish is dope mane keep going🤘🏻

@alligatorsam5357 3 жыл бұрын

This is better story writing than the actual story lol.

@miguel_mxg 3 жыл бұрын

He didn't have to train in the 7 years lapse, he just have to train a bit and not lose his power because in the future his potential would be unlocked

@lucasf1750 3 жыл бұрын

Your potential increases the more you train tho

@DM-xi3hw 3 жыл бұрын

for a 3rd time ....just how many restrictions does he have

@meganlowery9149 3 жыл бұрын

What if he just sat with grand Kai every week for a day lol his potential would be unlocked and maybe have a mystic 3 form like he did in super lol it’d be like 30 times stronger than blue

@midgetydeath 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure saiyans who don't train actually lose any strength. They're not human and they stay in their prime until about 70 years old or so then crash hard and fast. So, their bodies not losing whatever gains their training brings them even when they don't train for a long time after that would be reasonable.