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One of these days, equipment permitting, you should do a generational comparison. A "How did they age?" type series. Like the Mighty 4k vs the 14k. The Mars 1 vs Mars 4, etc. Dial them in to the best of your abilities, and compare the prints, while also comparing their differing quality of life features. I think it would serve to highlight how far the industry has or has not progressed.

I so appreciate the courage it takes to make a brutally honest review like this. Hence being able to support you in my own small way.

Thank you for another great video! Also, the reason why I enjoy watching your videos so much is your detention to detail, the break down on specs, and comparisons with other products. Plus, you help break it down to the average person as well keeping it fun and entertaining with your sense of humor and sketches. (Reverse unboxing, the life size Woverine bust in the background, etc....) But most of all I respect the way you keep things honest and at times give us a "buyers beware" on a product that may or may not be the thing we are looking for. :)

A very well thought out and knowledgable video. I really like how you include useful details like the dimension with the lid open. Your reviews do a great job not only with teaching about the specific the printer, but also in general educating myself on what to look out for in resin printers. Still happy with my pre order of S4U using your link.

4:45 "there are some people that put prints directly on the base plate expecting dimensional accuracy, even though the base layers will be over cured and bloated anyway... I just don't get why" I do a fair amount of direct printing. I use very long base wait times, applied with UV tools allowing base layers to actually get to the right height which then allows for far lower base exposures, with most resins I can do 2-3x normal exposure on just 2 base layers for almost no warping or elephants foot, I can even print complex things like fine chain mail directly, even on my old saturn 1! And it's super useful for just making parts and printing them like you would with FDM rather than worrying about print angles and supports

I preordered the REVO and just wanted to comment on my findings, there is a switch in the options menu that will keep the printer heater running throughout the print. I confirmed with Phrozen support that this was the case and they told me it was. (this seems to be an update pushed after the first review copies shipped) My observations of my own printer chamber temp so far with this setting on have confirmed it as well. you can also turn off the setting for residue detection if you feel its flagging you a false positive and it will print just fine.... you make good reviews keep it up, just wanted to raise these points from my own findings with the printer so far.

Ross, you’re easily the paragon reviewer for the hobby printers. This review was well articulated, in-depth and entertaining. I’ve been hanging fire until your review on the Revo. I’m not convinced on the Saturn, I’ve owned a couple of them and they’re not great machines. Personally, I’m hoping Uniformation bring out the GK3 and continue on the success of the GK2.

Sincerity 👌this is why your channel is successful and why I love your reviews!

I guess phrozen marketing buzz with the heater is... "the cold never bothered me anyway" Another honest yet optimistic review, Ross, i thank you!

The release of this video just made my day! Thanks Ross ❤

Hey Ross, Generally speaking I love your videos. I love how you promote resin 3D printing and tell us (the audience) what's out there and what's available. Seriously: thank you for that. I really appreciate it. There is one point of criticism that I have though. You tend to go on a rant about how bad ACF film is. You say it obscures fine details on modern high detail printers, but you also say (sometimes in the *same* video) that modern 14k and 12k printers are not much better that the older 8k printers (24 micron vs 28.5 micron) because you can't see those details anyway (especially when you prime the model for painting). There is one thing about ACF film that maybe you've never realised, or at least you've never mentioned: ACF improves reliability of prints!!! Because ACF lowers peel forces, the chances of a failed print drop significantly. Now if you know what you're doing (which I assume you do) or if you just increase your exposure a little to guarantee print success (negating the ACF detail argument), the odds of a print failure won't be much of an issue for you. However for those of us who print from widely varying sources, with varying pre-support quality, having a liner which gives me a higher chance of a successful print anyway is priceless. (I don't increase the printing speed, I want more reliable prints) I have an Anycubic Photon D2 and use anti-aliasing, and I have now installed ACF with fantastic results. I have had only one print failure across many different prints using different resins and STLs from different sources. Now I do realise that with DLP the detail blur effect of ACF is mitigated, but if you use anti-aliasing you will have the same effect as ACF on your prints anyway. So it makes little to no difference. This increase in reliability has been so profound that I now recommend that *everyone* who does not have a tilting vat resin printer, as least consider installing ACF as their default. Not having to worry about print failures is IMO so much more important that the finest details you can only see using a magnifying glass. Cheers and happy printing.

Great video like always!!!!! i love watching your reviews

I'm glad I pulled the trigger with tge Saturn 4 ultra at almost a third of the price. Great review Ross! Once again, you pulled it as honest as you can be, that can only help the company in the future with critical pros and cons but also for the consumer(us).

I appreciate your honest and insightful information. Keep it up!

Stay honest and true to your viewers. This is why I watch your videos. You have integrity and your content is great. Thank you.

loving your honest reviews ! thakn you

Great balanced honest review. I hope phozen take on board the feedback and work to improve it.

@fauxhammer I love your non bias honesty when it comes to the printer reviews. I was debating on ordering this new Phrozen or the new Saturn 4 ultra. I went with the Saturn4 ultra and I'm so glad I did. Your video on the S4 helped soldify my opinion that I made the right choice!

Another great video. I hope you don't see too much push back. I am a Phrozen fan since the original sonic mini (2k, old school) and I had a lot of the same criticisms when the Revo was about to launch. the 14k is just to stay 'competitive' with the market and nothing more. It kinda felt like they wanted to tick all the 'wanted' boxes but bolted them on instead of building them in, if that makes sense. In the end they made a machine that had more features than last gen but wasn't any /smarter/ than last gen, which is what I'm starting to look for in new machines. Maybe it is just the cheap part of me but I would have much rather seen them release a Might 8K S machine this year and put out a smarter more innovative mid sized machine next year. Thanks again for the video, very informative as always!

Incredible work as always Ross, brutally honest, but respectful. 👍🏻

Awesome to have honest reviews!

Blind reach-around a sexy box? I'd buy that for a dollar. Thanks for your honest review Ross. Also that mask thingy you painted up at the end looks worthy of its own video!

want to get into resin 3d printing and wanted to ask, when refilling the vat, why do you pour the resin onto the plate and let it drip down vs pouring it into the vat directly?

As always, this has been an excelent quality video, great work Ross!... I'm looking forward to purchase a resin printer but I'm having a hard time choosing if I should go for one of the latest gen printers? Or go for a Gk2 or phrozen mighty 12k... what would you recommend?

As someone with a budding interest in resin 3D printing (GW left me behind with price increases in the middle of a recession) I watched some content and believed that the newer forays into printers with elegoo for example were trying to raise their reputation and the quality of the 3D printing space with growth such as the tilting vat. I would love a video comparing brands at different price points because most other reviews seem to be mostly positive for every printer and maybe that means there isn't much of a difference other than price? Keep making great, honest content!

Thanks for the honesty good sir. I'm excited to hear what printer you recommend for someone looking to print minis. I like the larger size because it lets me print models in bigger parts or entirely.

Good review, I do not own this printer, but do own the markedly worse, but significantly less expensive anycubic m5s pro. I have owned it for 2 weeks now. I knew going in I wasn't going to see 14k but as I was upgrading from my original mono 2k printer I expected a step up in quality. I also enjoy the larger print area. I think the anycubic printer with its scab on double side tape heater has a slight advantage over the Phrozen one in that it runs the whole time, as I run my printer in the garage in an area that can sometimes drop into negative temps that is appreciated because it just keeps the air warm inside, however it is not ideal, it should be in integrated part of the printer. I still heat my resin before I print using an external heater then let the temp controlled air and printer running take care of the rest. Also I am not a fan of whomever decided to go with rectangular pixel shape. Generally though as someone who is just printing dnd minis it is more than enough for what I need. Eventually it would be nice if any of the big 3 got their act together enough to create something seamlessly engineered.

Now that we have a new generation of Resin Printers, for those willing to spend more money for reliability, as long as it also solves many of the items you pointed out in the video specifically around ease of use; i.e. wifi enabled, heated vats, etc. Which printer(s) would you recommend or which top 2 should be given serious consideration between?

Hi Ross, discovered your channel few days ago and as i want to begin my 3d journey you are the most informative and honest reviewer ive watched. Really thank you for that. Also i've got a question, are you going to review the anycubic photon mono m7 pro? Becouse i found just one review and ,you know, it's not as good as i believe yours would be.

Thanks for the warning!!

Great review. This is why I subscribed to you, cause you don’t pull any punches. Don’t apologize for your opinions, double down.

I also appreciate the honesty, like the other viewers. Makes me actually reconsider getting it, since i need a reliable heating solution for my new living situation. But the Revo seems to be more than suboptimal with that. Is there any other printer that has no-leveling / bed tilting and a good heating solution. Along with good quality and reasonable size of course... Id love to get some recommendations to research into. Im a bit lost now. Will stick with my Mars 3 for now, since its warm enough now to keep printing atm. But i really wanna upgrade. Im tired of the buildplate leveling and the small bed.

Thank you for a quality review on a sub par product. I'll be avoiding this one, and looking for Phrozen's response through innovation.

I love Phrozen. They have been a workhorse of a printer for me. But it does feel like the extra features are added as an afterthought over being designed with the features in mind. Also a big question for the failure detection. Is there a way to turn it off?

I’ve owned the mini 8k and the mini 8ks but I have been soured on the brand from the experience. The 8k died prematurely from a dead USB port. The 8ks has too many resin compatibility issues so I switched to the Mars 4 Ultra. The Phrozen light source delivers subpar performance with some non Phrozen resins. I had weird issues with weak and crumbly prints with resins that print perfectly on other machines. I also question whether anyone who understands 3d printing is involved with the design of these machines or if their marketing teams just slap together popular features from other brands without understanding why those features are desirable.

I actually did buy this printer, I wouldn’t buy it as a consumer tho, I bought it for my work as a prosumer, I liked the quality, ease of use, and ease of maintenance, we will see how it goes when I start running it.

Glad to see heaters in the next gen printers even if this one is clowning with the implementation

Is this one better for casting jewellery than a phrozen 8k or dlp d2? Which one of the three would you choose for jewellery casting using siraya tech.

Did it come with tubing for the vent? That's honestly the main thing I'm worried about, how to get rid of fumes. I'll have to run it in a basement/office so ease of proper ventilation is the deal maker/breaker.

I've watched so many videos as a person wanting to get in the hobby im thinking of getting a Saturn 3 ultra however im having trouble deciding if I should just preorder the Saturn 4/ultra instead should I?

Why haven't you reviewed the formlabs? Just curious as to why formlabs 2 3 and 4 aren't considered in any of your videos?

Here's where I comment about a video I'm watching at the beginning, and before I watch it all the way through because I respect the effort that goes into to making it. Now do it with an 18" subwoofer flexing.

The gktwo heater is terrible for your lcd.. which you want to stay cool

Common sense seems to have gone out the window with manufacturers and they just seem to be more bothered about pumping out machines quicker to keep up with other brands. Heat rises, not rocket science, basics. How do you heat resin? Heat the location it is stored i.e. the VAT! Great honest video.

Great review: honest, constructive and entertaining. You don’t happen to have a video about printing at different layer heights or a practical guide on how to achieve the best detail / model accuracy for larger prints. Print orientation, supports, layer heights that sort of thing. I am struggling with printing a tank in two parts without corners lifting or surfaces warping. Straight flat surfaces are looking wavy :(

Led lights will cure resin over time, this is more of a problem if you have residue, it will make Hader to clean off the vat and splashes, using a LED that doesn't do this is basically a dim red LED so it's not optimal. As for chamber heaters, its better if the heater has a fan only mode if the tempatures are above normal so it circulates the air around the chamber to make it more even.

Wadup Ross been a while since I commented on any of your videos but I’ve still been watching and I hope you and yours are doing well, take care bro

love your content please hold up the good qualitit

Please try that flat test again with a 20-40s wait before print, I promise it will look way better.

Looks like I'll be sticking with my 8Ks and wraparound vat heaters for a while yet...

@FauxHammer thanks a lot for this review and your work. It's fair, smart and honest.Thanks a lot ! Merci beaucoup !

Thanks for the good video (as a MIghty 8k Owner). Does sound gimmicky over quality/useful; given i do like the screen replacement method. Have you done any stepping tests between the Revo and 8k? MY 8k is getting terrible stepping and I see posts on their FB group about it regularly. Print a vertical pillar for easiest test.

Just proving my splurge on the GKII was worth it

just an FYI, you can turn off all the smart features, so even if the smart detection feature doesn't work well or is too sensitive, you can turn it off so it doesn't give you issues until they maybe find a software fix for it. I agree it should just work properly from the get-go, but I feel like in a review this should be mentioned instead of making it seem like you can't get around this issue.

12:47 this really made me laugh, thanks😂

Does it affect normal use? I already ordered and paid full price.

Good review but I have it's direct concurrent the Apex x1 mini, and not perfect but less function. Have you test this printer. But I am satisfy by Acf agaiinst point of you.

So I have a question, if Anycubic and Phrozen made price and design choices that are easy for the ELEGOO to trump with the Sat 4,then have those other companies always been trying to shovel in money by overpricing printers or did ELEGOO take a bit of a loss on the Sat 4? Seems crazy that ELEGOO hit the golden price point vs features and everyone else missed the target.

@FauxHammer alternative resin cleaning. Unrelated comment but wanted to mention the option in case you or someone else benefits from this. For washing resins propylene glycol is amazing. Results similar to IPA, wayyyy less toxic as a washing medium, it doesn't even release much resin chemicals, it's non flammable and it even lasts longer than IPA. How to use PPG? Instead of a wash station use an ultrasonic cleaner and when the fluid is dirty you get it cold around - 2 Celsius (freezer or outside weather permitting) and the resin separates out of the fluid and you can separate it easily. Last caveat I have heard it doesn't work well with sunlu resins. Hope that helps someone!

You have become my favorite!! Keep it up

I struggled this past winter getting prints to succeed with a GK2 in a garage, and I can tell you that having ambient temps inside the enclosure be too high or fluctuate (since the heater turns on and off) means the print and the build plate will change shape at different rates, which will cause heavy prints to detach and fall into your vat. I think this is probably the most destructive and catastrophic failure you can have in terms of damage to your vat, screen, and release membrane barring some homer simpson bullshit

Good to know.

@FauxHammer Geez man… We don’t like making videos that put everybody down. 😢 This was certainly a hard one to make - kudos for your commitment to the fans. They want to know what you think - it won’t be always roses. But this printer is only a disappointment when you put price in perspective. That said… now I am desperate to know if @Vogman will extend a red carpet to this one or if he will be as bluntly critic to Phrozen this time as he usually is to anybody else 😂

will you be doing the anycubic mono m7 pro?

As a consumer (and fan) I find reviews that are fan boys telling me I'm a moron for not loving "xxx" printer useless. To me showing me why something isn't desirable is more valuable than people that keep going "14k! Best printz ever!". If you say something sucks...not helpful either but something like this video in your format is perfect. "It does or does not have this, and that effects this"...that's what I want from reviews. Thank you for this.

good call. plus im a fan of phrozen but there was some thing about this printer they wanted to keep quite, 1 the price 2 they didnt let anyone review it until not to long ago. i will hold off on this printer and price, I noticed they are starting to make the cheaper printers with any cubic color lids which I don't care for I like phozen for their color it's like a trademark plus on the other printer 8k are lightweight with plastic and there still wanting to charge extra I think they're heading off in the wrong direction

Nooooooo Phrozeeen!!! WHat tffff U done!!! :( Thanks faux, I Was waiting for your review to pull the trigger on it... you saved me brother, thanks a lot

Supporting comment!!!

It would have more sense if the exhaust installation trap to be behind the air filter. IMO

No, seriously. HEATED VAT! Please write that down.

Where do you get those awesome stock videos?? They funny

i dont know why, but Video sound overall in this video is not that full and smooth as allways... did you change somthing ?

The last Phrozen review we see on this channel 😂

I have an Air heater and I don't think its the way. Your resin will cool down faster than the hot air will heat it up. The air heater is great for keeping the printer temp at status quo, so if your room cools down during overnight prints an air heater will help But you need to combine it with a printer Cover that can retain heat.

:D your probably going to hate this suggestion, BUT :D i think it would be a really good test to get some temp probes and testing the reliability of the temp the printer reports because i bet that reading is only being taken from one place.

People print in Brazil and you will hardly ever find anywhere here it is five degrees celsius... Maybe far in the south here, but still unlikely to be this cold 90% of the year.

Personally, I'm quite a fan of the old "blind reach-around fumble".

yeah i think the problem is that they are really struggeling with the arc fdm printer that moste of the focus is thare becus that is haveing set back after set back, so maby this model was just pumped out so they could keep the (demand for new printer up). but is it is this bad on this machine i would happely skip this model and stay with my gktwo for now

I loving my mini 8k. But if they produce a subpar machine with a high price tag the truth has to be told.

Thus Uniformation GKTwo stays strong

Drop the price by half and then it's appealing, 1k USD is insane for this

Great job!

unless they are planning on putting the product on store shelves i dont care how fancy the box is. a fancy box might not cost much more but i would ratehr them shave the cost off the price.

There’s too many reviews out there (and on your channel even lol)… if you had to recommend a printer right now to a brand new person with, say, $600 to spend, which one would it be? Ease of use I’d imagine would be the most important criteria, quality of the print just needs to be ‘pretty damn good’, build plate just needs to be satisfactory size for personally use (able to print whatever I want, but volume isn’t an issue because I’m not running a farm).

Completely unrelated, what happened to flash forge

I'll stick with my Mars4 9k

I feel lucky - once I get my 3d printer it will be placed in a heated basement that is +20 degrees Celsius :)

I removed the camera on my 8k mighty it was absolutely useless. I was disappointed when I found out that the heater for the revo was a “chamber” heater. I had high hopes for this generation of resin printers but since everything is a chitubox / chitu systems and mostly all resin printers are the same thing in different paint

I agree with you - they are using poorly implemented and tacked on features to check boxes. It is stupid and frustrating and shows a lack of thoughtful design. They just want to build units as cheaply as possible and sell them before their next "new" model arrives. These printers are supposed to be tools for long term use - not something you replace every two years.

Love the callback to the Mighty 8k camera, haha that was kinda a shitshow and I think the first poorly implemented idea. Even when they finally delivered the feature it was completely pointless really. Got my Mighty 8k still directly from the preorder and the printer works great, but I replaced the camera with a heater lol But it's kinda sad seeing how poorly they implemented everything here. I feel it's kinda the same with their Arco FDM printer. I was following the show from day one up till the finish of the Kickstarter, but it's kinda just a lot of promises and not much to show for it. Not what I would have expected from Phrozen. I really wonder what is going on in their engineering department.

Problems with Phrozen? Let it go... had to, sorry not sorry LOL

Didn't watch... just skipped to 21:41 and heard "Buy this one it's great". Message received, off to buy this. Apparently it's great! Thanks man :)

Waiting for the 8k to lower the price

Phrozen what happened?!?

Maybe they mean 14k as the addition of the x and y axis numbers. Like since its 13320+5120 is close enough to 14k. Then again it could be the fact one of the numbers is 14k. Either way its disingenuous.

Wow.... ok... so was this machine designed by the new hire in the marketing department who spent 3 minutes on google (and did not click into any site)? Geesh.

"The printer is fine" ... for a €1.033,99 euro's. Let's just buy previous gen printer for half the price.

They should turn that little heater upside down and heat up the guts. Love the honest review. Ignore the clowns in the comments. Because they are clowns. And the switch on the back doesn't work for my little print farm. I need to be able to turn the machine on and off from the front. Also, I can't remember if you said it or not... Uniformation costs less. So I'm not sure how phrozen arrived at this price point.

I can't believe it :(