How To Alienate The Audience (PART 2) - Chris Gore

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@filmcourage
@filmcourage Жыл бұрын
How To Alienate The Audience (PART 1) - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/itxpqJx_3M-aiWg.html
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Love your content
@rbu2136
@rbu2136 Жыл бұрын
Will never ever see anything involving Kevin Smith. Fauk him
@matthewronson5218
@matthewronson5218 Жыл бұрын
He's right. Actors and Actresses baiting and bullying the audience, in this case ardent Tolkien fans and admirers of Jackson's Masterpiece or a Masterpiece. To the professional pretenders and their studio handlers, if a fan of both or one of the works above objects or criticizes the reproduction, the fan base are dismissed and called 'Trolls" for failure to pander.
@davidhaaijema4521
@davidhaaijema4521 Жыл бұрын
Fans do not bully artist, artist attack fans, then Fans attack back. Constantly being called "Racist" and "Homophobe" for pointing out badly written token stories and that saying things like "If we don't have black people in it black people won't be able to relate" asif black people are incapable of showing empathy with anyone other than blacks, isn't fans bullying. That's fan being decent human beings and hollywood writters and actors acting like subhuman garbage and than claiming their attacked. Give me 1 direct good example otherwise of a fan out of no where attacking a actor or movie, I dare you.
@Wolverine276
@Wolverine276 Жыл бұрын
I hear you!
@Mornathel
@Mornathel Жыл бұрын
“The less I know about a celebrities personal life, the more I tend to like them.” Amen. This is true
@PowerLord83
@PowerLord83 Жыл бұрын
The black dawrf princess in RoP isnt even that bad, but the actress is unbearable
@yiledute
@yiledute Жыл бұрын
It's just "never meet your heroes"
@Zac_Frost
@Zac_Frost Жыл бұрын
As Bill Maher once said, "I like Daniel Day Lewis so much because I don't know if he even _exists_ off screen."
@destinyhntr
@destinyhntr Жыл бұрын
I think it also shows just how awful a lot of celebrities are, though. Tons of KZfaqrs expose their lives just as much yet they aren't hated. Hollywood IS full of a lot of scumbags who got there by cheating or manipulating. This just pulls away that curtain.
@Mornathel
@Mornathel Жыл бұрын
@@destinyhntr When Chris said that I was reminded of a joke I heard somewhere I can’t remember. But the joke goes “I hate when sports players give their opinions on things. If I wanted the advice of someone who spent their life chasing a ball I’d ask my dog.” It’s mean but also fairly accurate.
@eban907
@eban907 Жыл бұрын
Chris is spot on here, 'the less I know about the personal life of a celebrity the more I like them' .....couldn't agree more.
@frankgesuele6298
@frankgesuele6298 Жыл бұрын
So true when you think about how many times knowing more sour you on someone.
@thegallantsaint2034
@thegallantsaint2034 Жыл бұрын
“Familiarity breeds contempt”
@WarPoet-In-Training
@WarPoet-In-Training Жыл бұрын
Viggo Mortensen anyone?
@towelman8589
@towelman8589 Жыл бұрын
Absolute facts
@sobreaver
@sobreaver Жыл бұрын
It's like thinking you know everything about your wife (well she's your wife after all ;) but then being 'unable' to see fresh and clear through her for anything new about her that you didn't previously know, it's like taking away the opportunity of being (hopefully agreeably) surprise, and letting petty details stop you from enjoying the show (although, all is in measure, some truths are rather sad to ignore for the sake of enjoying a show, but still, even though we may understand them, we might still not want to approve of them..)
@dravonwalker2352
@dravonwalker2352 Жыл бұрын
“The best thing you can do for your mental health is not be on social media.” Wow. True words there!!!
@Needler13
@Needler13 Жыл бұрын
So true, I took a 3 month break from social media. KZfaq and reddit, don't use anything else, and man...I was just so much happier. I even stopped scrolling the news and just bought legit newspapers instead daily. Living like I was back in the 1990's was such a sweet heaven until I had to go back to work and be back online.
@saturnociris2724
@saturnociris2724 Жыл бұрын
Most definitely my brother
@JamieG.
@JamieG. Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY, I don't use Instagram or Facebook now, as well as watching less twitch streams and KZfaq. The main take away was that my mind was less cluttered and free.
@JTSuter
@JTSuter Жыл бұрын
Ever since I left Facebook, my life improved greatly. Never ever had a need for Twitter. However, KZfaq is such an important part of my entertainment and education, I can't imagine living without it. I just have to deal with reading occasional vitriol in comments sections.
@jt.8144
@jt.8144 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely true!
@Mikkirose1
@Mikkirose1 Жыл бұрын
"I don't really care about a celebrity's personal life and I think ignoring it will make you enjoy a movie much more." Well said! I agree completely!
@Rakshiir
@Rakshiir Жыл бұрын
In my personal opinion it often comes down to: as soon as you see that the celebrity has a pretty strange view on life - that makes it odd. Alot of them simply don't seem to be very bright, informed, but still put out their thoughts without really going into research. It feels like alot of them have a world view that is disconnected from reality propably because they are... as the top % in terms of money, you aren't close to the "normal, every day" person anymore.
@christinerobbins9376
@christinerobbins9376 Жыл бұрын
I miss the "old" celebrities. Sam Jackson, Harvey Keitel, Keanu, Michael Madsen, Kevin Smith, ...what happened to THOSE kind of guys? 💔
@alexanderwindh4830
@alexanderwindh4830 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. People criticizing and knowing more about TC than he knows himself 😂
@davidfields5375
@davidfields5375 Жыл бұрын
Something to aim for in theory, but some people just have too much baggage.
@different_stuff
@different_stuff Жыл бұрын
remembered me those kevin spacey and amber herd scandals. Just let me watch a movie goddamit.
@darkhighwayman1757
@darkhighwayman1757 Жыл бұрын
I wish Hollywood had more Chris Gore putting them in check
@rickrollrizal2747
@rickrollrizal2747 Жыл бұрын
I think they used to have that. But then ESG and Bechdel testhappened.
@ronniejdio9411
@ronniejdio9411 Жыл бұрын
Guys a treasure
@fakshen1973
@fakshen1973 Жыл бұрын
You can't act, shoot, edit, or post what's not in the script. The people who green-light productions cannot read a basic script. They have no clue. They only know what stimulates their own personal interests. I had a client push back on what radio station we were proposing to advertise his business on "the girls in the office don't listen to those stations." We pulled out of the advertising because we don't campaigns that are destine to fail just to make a buck today and tarnish our reputation tomorrow. He did not understand that we made commercials targeted to the people most likely to purchase his services and become repeat business/regular clients. I'm telling you this story because the people with the power to purchase and control budgets are rarely the best people to control content and medium.
@armondtanz
@armondtanz Жыл бұрын
Hes white And male Weve had too much of their dominance thankyou very much. Hitchcock, Kubrick, Scorsese, Coppola, Lynch, Spielberg, Stone, Scott, Cameron, Tarintino, Anderson, Darabont, Jackson... Step aside its gonna get 'Wilde' from now on.
@celluloidtherapy5003
@celluloidtherapy5003 Жыл бұрын
@@armondtanz I remember laughing my ass off, reading a total put-down of Martin Scorcese, by Andrea Subisatti, (diversity hire) EIC, of Rue Morgue magazine. It was FULL of the “old white guys” argument, that is a complete joke. These people are the REASON Hollywood existed at all. Of course, she attempted to back-pedal BIG TIME, when she was (rightfully) called out. By then, the damage was done. It was the proverbial straw for me, as I never bought another issue.
@ninjafoxgamesgeekery
@ninjafoxgamesgeekery Жыл бұрын
Staying off social media and remaining more private is something that sets Denzel Washington apart from most of his colleagues. He's one of the last of the old school Hollywood movie stars in that respect.
@banzaii4422
@banzaii4422 Жыл бұрын
and Mr. Bean
@mrnobody6447
@mrnobody6447 Жыл бұрын
It helps hes a very good actor, and how he conducts himself in public is rather respectable.
@HumanHamCube
@HumanHamCube Жыл бұрын
Viggo Mortensen
@TheLevitatingFleem
@TheLevitatingFleem Жыл бұрын
Christian Bale
@BreadCatMarcus
@BreadCatMarcus Жыл бұрын
Nah, there's plenty of actors like that. Adam Driver, Christian Bale, Joaquin Phoenix, Cate Blanchett, Ethan Hawke, Uma Thurman, etc. I could go on. We just focus too much on the loudmouths and the negatives they boast about.
@Mikkirose1
@Mikkirose1 Жыл бұрын
"I think we're going to find out that social media is worse for us than smoking and in some cases, it's like holding a loaded weapon." Insightful. Well said. I like this guy!
@protoguy
@protoguy Жыл бұрын
puhlease
@CroneLife1
@CroneLife1 Жыл бұрын
@@protoguy , you're helping to sell their point for them. Very kind of you.
@protoguy
@protoguy Жыл бұрын
@@CroneLife1 tell your mom I said hi
@CroneLife1
@CroneLife1 Жыл бұрын
@@protoguy , since she's been dead for about 12 years, that won't be possible. Nice of you to think of her, though.
@protoguy
@protoguy Жыл бұрын
@@CroneLife1
@whiterabbit75
@whiterabbit75 Жыл бұрын
"Social media is worse for us than smoking." I really wish more people would realize this.
@thisguydan
@thisguydan Жыл бұрын
Film Courage really lives up to its name in letting all of these different voices associated with Hollywood be heard on the channel. It's a refreshing reprieve from an industry where people are so scared to even say the truth if it doesn't tow the line. Hollywood should take note, this channel is a great example of showcasing the actual value of diversity - unique voices, thoughts, and opinions.
@Leprutz
@Leprutz Жыл бұрын
Yeah they should interveiw the critical drinker, he'd destroy the whole Business with his words.
@Epoch11
@Epoch11 Жыл бұрын
Tow the line, wow, this computer is stupid because it should be toe the line, I said that to this computer I didn't type these words in. I was about to say You misspelled that but maybe it was the computer.
@Barada73
@Barada73 Жыл бұрын
It’s EXTREMELY rare that I gain respect for any actor/actress after learning about their political views or personal lives. It’s happened maybe only once or twice in my lifetime. For this reason I tend to try to avoid learning too much about the actors/actresses who play characters I love. The same applies to musicians.
@kekibannmi6054
@kekibannmi6054 Жыл бұрын
Keanu is about the only person that is a star whose personal life is just as impressive and seemingly honorable as his reputation.
@fhuzy
@fhuzy Жыл бұрын
They're human, and in a profession like acting they are left bursting at the seams to express their personal lives outside of acting. Activism gives them that outlet. You would feel the same in their shoes. It's the stars that can control that urge that remain legends.
@eyeofbast
@eyeofbast Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Even if I know their political/social leanings I can overlook it depending on what it is. We can agree to disagree, and keep your personal life to yourself. More importantly, shut the f’ck up and do your job: entertain me. That’s it.
@danieljames6503
@danieljames6503 Жыл бұрын
Musicians ??? So what do you think musicians/song writers write about then?
@vladimirofsvalbard9477
@vladimirofsvalbard9477 Жыл бұрын
@@eyeofbast It's because humble and good people tend to have very humanistic and moderate views. Morons tend to have extremely radical and unrealistic viewpoints, which most people find annoying..
@blockmasterscott
@blockmasterscott Жыл бұрын
I quit Facebook a few years ago because of what this man said. I noticed at work that people were treating me nervously, so I went to my boss to ask about it. She told me that someone looked me up on FB and seeing pictures of me practicing Japanese Karate with a black belt I was all of a sudden a safety risk at work. And me being a man didn’t help. I was treated like some sort of psychopath after that. I had to ask her to help me get transferred to another building and I canceled my FB account.
@agasthya9128
@agasthya9128 Жыл бұрын
That’s just terrible. People really have no idea how to use their brains nowadays 😅
@jackpijjin4088
@jackpijjin4088 Жыл бұрын
@@agasthya9128 Let the machine think for you! It knows what's best!(tm)
@tinderbox218
@tinderbox218 Жыл бұрын
Just needed to narrow down your FB exposure to your closest friends and family.
@denigster
@denigster Жыл бұрын
@@tinderbox218 no staying away is the right choice^^ there is no need for it in the real world !
@didamnesia3575
@didamnesia3575 Жыл бұрын
Although I know some dirtbag Martial Artists, most are really good people just trying to better themselves in a sport they never thought they'd be able to do. The only people who tried to make me feel bad for doing Taekwondo in my 30s were people that had already harmed me, had planned to harm me, or were mad they couldn't harm me. They also couldn't accuse me of being violent without my witnesses: fellow students. My fellow students were witnesses to my nature. I loved learning techniques. Being punched wasn't my favorite part but that was part of the gig. It's good you were able to move buildings. Your coworkers are naive manipulative dirtbags
@patronus1776
@patronus1776 Жыл бұрын
I think it's great that social media has allowed everyone to see just how ridiculously awful many celebrities are in real life. Society has idolized these people for too long, placing far too much value on their opinions and their productions.
@RAN-os5gz
@RAN-os5gz Жыл бұрын
The mistake is that we spent all this time thinking they were *important*. They are popular, which is a completely different thing. Trashmen, farmers and truck drivers are important, actors are only popular and popular, fickle things are very often awful.
@polyestermammoth740
@polyestermammoth740 Жыл бұрын
That final line is absolute nonsense
@trunks41061
@trunks41061 Жыл бұрын
Not we, its the media and those cringe social media youths nowadays. Ppl with a brain Always knew that 😂 also 99% of movies, series whatever is copycat anyway.
@AdamJorgensen
@AdamJorgensen Жыл бұрын
Correction. Social media allows you to see just how ridiculously awful many people are in real life. Which is kinda depressing.
@MrBaronCabron
@MrBaronCabron Жыл бұрын
@@polyestermammoth740 right. Maybe they take influence from actors or sporting people's opinions. Speak for themselves.
@Dead-bl7to
@Dead-bl7to Жыл бұрын
“Social media is worse than smoking.” So true.
@rolfknappmann
@rolfknappmann Жыл бұрын
The two ideas that really stood out for me in this brilliant piece of YT-content are: - Social media is worse to us than smoking - filmmakers change a movie based on the opinion of some random, loud screaming people on the internet (that's what a mob is) that might not even be among those, who actually pay to see the work What I don't get is the disclaimer in the end. It makes you look a bit like you were afraid of that very Twitter mob he's talking about... :( edit: Listening to fans is a different thing entirely. For example the change of the design for sonic in his movie.
@seri-ously8591
@seri-ously8591 Жыл бұрын
Like he stated, "I think being beholden to the Twitter mob is just the worst thing someone's who's creative can do". It's pretty easy for someone to just snip parts of this video and post it on twitter to change the narrative and make false context out of. That kind of thing is rampant on Twitter and is likely an aspect as to why he doesn't want to deal with the many mobs on Twitter.
@_TheJp_
@_TheJp_ Жыл бұрын
I think the final disclaimer is for stupid people. Twitter is full of stupid people. So... yeah, its for twitter but not in the way they think. 😀
@freman007
@freman007 Жыл бұрын
There are exceptions, like the Sonic Movie, but listening to most Twitter denizens is generally a bad idea. Perhaps the best rule of thumb is simply to float an idea on Twitter, and if they like it, do the opposite.
@rolfknappmann
@rolfknappmann Жыл бұрын
@@freman007 Exactly what I wrote as an edit of my OG comment, before you commented that
@Arkaine197
@Arkaine197 Жыл бұрын
@@freman007 The easy litmus test to see if the online criticism is worth listening to is to ask "Who is driving this? And what do they want?" In the case of the people asking if Sonic can be made to look more like classic Sonic you can clearly and decisively answer both of those questions: It's classic fans of the IP asking, and their intention is to make the product more marketable by bringing it more in line with the original Sonic design, appealing to older fans who have a great deal of nostalgia for classic Sonic. But let's take an example where it isn't worth listening to, in the case of the new Scooby Doo which intends to redesign Velma as a lesbian, who was asking for that? It was the journo's, blue checkmarks who represent a small fraction of the population and an even smaller portion of the viewer base, it certainly wasn't the children who watch Scooby Doo. And what do they want? They want to create a firestorm with a controversial change which will divide the watchers into two groups, and then set them against each other. That isn't going to help market the product at all, quite the opposite.
@michiganjack1337
@michiganjack1337 Жыл бұрын
Chris is absolutely on point (as always) with “we’ll _find_ out social media is more dangerous than smoking”
@mrbouncelol
@mrbouncelol Жыл бұрын
It's a bit of a stretch but a good point nonetheless, that social media is a force that needs to be taken seriously in the lives of those who use it.
@Embarrassed4U
@Embarrassed4U Жыл бұрын
@@mrbouncelol I do not think it is a stretch. I think the real world damage that social media causes will eventually be relevantly quantified and we will have found to have caused far more real world damage than anything before it.
@destinyhntr
@destinyhntr Жыл бұрын
We already have. Facbook did some study a few years ago and found that Instagram hurts people mentally. They just decided they didn't care about the results. We already know it's bad for you. Now the culture needs to move away from it like they're trying to move away from smoking.
@protoguy
@protoguy Жыл бұрын
Bullshit. Just so dumb and reactionary. This all has Tipper Gore vibes.
@Needler13
@Needler13 Жыл бұрын
@@mrbouncelol Not a stretch at all. Smoking may kill you and someone near you by second hand smoke, I give you that. Social Media literally got a group of people to fucking try to take over the capitol, have people rally in organized hate groups and made shit like Brexit, that destroyed so many lives, happen. Social Media is pure fucking cancer to the planet, smoking is only cancerous to a small segment of people around you.
@maddkiller
@maddkiller Жыл бұрын
I think the biggest issue with knowing so much about our celebrities is it makes it harder to believe a character they are playing because we know too much about them. When we knew so little it is easier to believe the acting, thats the point of acting, to convince the audience that u are what ur pretending to be, but if we know too much about u, it makes it hard to suspend enough believe to get into the character they are playing… dont know if that made sense but thats my 2centa
@williamyoung9401
@williamyoung9401 Жыл бұрын
Brad Pitt is a star, eh? Still? You know he got his start when he was Gwyneth Paltrow's agent? o_O
@feandil666
@feandil666 Жыл бұрын
Chris Gore is a rare gem, he can criticize modern Hollywood without anyone ever possibly suggesting he's a "racist", he says what a lot of us think
@roddymurray
@roddymurray Жыл бұрын
And anyway the term racist itself is nonsensical. Using the word racist in the negative sense is just the demonization of European ethnocentrism.
@hashvendetta7226
@hashvendetta7226 Жыл бұрын
being able to casually write that sentence, shows you how fuct up everything has become.
@toi_techno
@toi_techno Жыл бұрын
Anyone who has a problem with black actors playing characters in a fantasy story IS racist. This guy hasn't said anything racist like that.
@guardianaxiom205
@guardianaxiom205 Жыл бұрын
@@roddymurray nah, but it's certainly used for everything by the left. They can't deal with a conversation and you'll be branded a racist, nazi, bigot, fascist...
@roddymurray
@roddymurray Жыл бұрын
​@@toi_techno What a nice ball and chain you have.
@mikewazowski350
@mikewazowski350 Жыл бұрын
Amazon also owns IMDB and they were deleting my reviews for new releases. I ended up deleting my IMDB after 22 years because I had gone back to edit old reviews. I verified that my reviews existed because IMDB would send me an email showing the post had been approved. No profanity. No threats. No racist or other anti social comments in my reviews. It was a pure example of Amazon controlling reviews to boost the initial release of a movie.
@SunnyLovetts
@SunnyLovetts Жыл бұрын
You are adorable for reviewing things
@Madbandit77
@Madbandit77 Жыл бұрын
They also shut down the IMDB message board after the whole Ghostbusters: Answer The Call snafu.
@mania4270
@mania4270 Жыл бұрын
@@Madbandit77 well yeah ppl weaponizing these reviews to try to fuck with the films performance. It's one thing to leave a harmless review but going out of you're way to unsure and root for this movie to fail is crossing the line. At that point, it's not harmless opinions, it's a hate campaign designed to cause the film to flop.
@commiehunter733
@commiehunter733 Жыл бұрын
@@mania4270 free speech is absolute.... if a movie is shit, then thats what it is.....
@mania4270
@mania4270 Жыл бұрын
@@commiehunter733Kaepernick literally lost his position on the NFL for free speech. You know nothing about losing free speech. It's not free speech when you losers do it because it turns into harassment where every black star besides sam Jackson or billy Dee williams has had to leave Twitter because ppl keep telling them go back to Bel air. That's not freedom of speech. And then you try to silent the celebs freedom by crying that they're this Hollywood elite virtue signaling. Enough is enough, cut that shit out. Makes white males look like whiny bitches.
@davep.2145
@davep.2145 Жыл бұрын
The fact that the producers of this show didn't get huge fans of Tolkien to work with his incredible mythical world says it all right there.
@tommorgan9073
@tommorgan9073 Жыл бұрын
They did
@jakeausten9673
@jakeausten9673 Жыл бұрын
But that’s not true. The show runners are massive fans of Tolkien and it’s a passion project for everyone involved in the writing and production.
@goldengail3418
@goldengail3418 Жыл бұрын
@@jakeausten9673 Are they really?
@volkhen0
@volkhen0 Жыл бұрын
@@jakeausten9673 maybe they are huge fans but awful writers and producers.
@jakeausten9673
@jakeausten9673 Жыл бұрын
@@volkhen0 That’s a different argument than what I’m responding to, but I see your point. They’re so awful they only managed an 85% on Rotten Tomatoes.
@mirahgirl01
@mirahgirl01 Жыл бұрын
Some people just understand how to put their thoughts into words and it really is an art form! He has a wonderful way of explaining things that make you not only want to listen but receive it well! Great interview
@iloveknives75
@iloveknives75 Жыл бұрын
I just had a conversation the other day where I was telling my friend that I miss the days when you didn’t know anything about actors and other superstars. I don’t want to know about their personal life, I want to enjoy their craft. When I came up you liked actors for their acting and comedians for being funny or musicians for their music etc. Nowadays, people will like or dislike performers for a cult of personality regardless of talent. Anything that pulls me out of the medium I’m trying to enjoy… I’ll pass
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Just sad how things have changed
@theghostofmaximumvolume3414
@theghostofmaximumvolume3414 Жыл бұрын
Same goes for politics. People vote for who they like, based usually on superficial issues, or they vote strictly on their party, rather than who does the job best.
@AA-cf4es
@AA-cf4es Жыл бұрын
That's a double edge sword though. Putting average people on pedestal, not having them accountable for anything... that's how Weinstein and his spider web could afford to operate all those years. The past was bad, but the present is no better. I wish people just start treat celebrities like ordinary people. They are not gods.
@AA-cf4es
@AA-cf4es Жыл бұрын
@@theghostofmaximumvolume3414 politics are a popularity contest, always has been.
@garrettsasser4565
@garrettsasser4565 Жыл бұрын
@@theghostofmaximumvolume3414 way to ruin a post
@leroyrussell8766
@leroyrussell8766 Жыл бұрын
Really love the videos with Chris Gore. He is very wise, and fair when it comes to the good, bad and ugly, where Hollywood is concerned. I would watch Film Courage even more if it was all Chris Gore.
@filmcourage
@filmcourage Жыл бұрын
Please visit his channel as well - kzfaq.info
@zubileegluckgluck
@zubileegluckgluck Жыл бұрын
@@filmcourage Chris Gore is my favorite Art House Lesbian.
@QwibQwib
@QwibQwib Жыл бұрын
Oh, nice avatar.
@johnman025
@johnman025 Жыл бұрын
@@zubileegluckgluck 😂😂😂😂😂
@MYTHNL90
@MYTHNL90 Жыл бұрын
@@zubileegluckgluck BRUH! :'") hell even Gore would laugh at that joke though
@aawells07
@aawells07 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video. I remember watching Chris way back in the day (G4?) and liked him then but, there was maybe 10 years before I seen him again and I'd never have guessed he was this down to earth and reasonable as he is. I think the entire movie industry needs to watch this to get some again reasonable perspective. I really like Chris Gore even more now. These movie companies and the actors really need to take a step back and reevaluate themselves and quite letting all these out influences take them down
@NaneelQueenOfDarknes
@NaneelQueenOfDarknes Жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone who isn't afraid to say what they really think. Film courage indeed. Keep up the great work chris.
@JH-zs3bs
@JH-zs3bs Жыл бұрын
Lol, I mean come on, literally NO one is afraid to say their mind about RoP :D
@NaneelQueenOfDarknes
@NaneelQueenOfDarknes Жыл бұрын
@@JH-zs3bs wasn't specifically talking about rop just media in general. Amazingly rop has its defenders which i have no idea how such a thing is possible lol
@goodial
@goodial Жыл бұрын
@@NaneelQueenOfDarknes they just aren't afraid to say what they really think ;)
@deckenneth
@deckenneth Жыл бұрын
He is sooooo right about the loss of mystery with stars. Its the embodiment of 'familiarity breeds contempt'
@SpareSomeChange8080
@SpareSomeChange8080 Жыл бұрын
I think we've got social media to thank for that.
@quietspark8703
@quietspark8703 Жыл бұрын
I freaking love this guy. The world needs more Chris Gores.
@edenarchive4150
@edenarchive4150 Жыл бұрын
He loves she hulk and hates lord of the rings. He has no credibility lol.
@decorumlopez9147
@decorumlopez9147 Жыл бұрын
Imagine current day pro critique. Move over, Siskel and Gerbert, Here come Blood & Gore!
@darrenscott6982
@darrenscott6982 Жыл бұрын
@@edenarchive4150 What's wrong with that, the Hulk character hasn't been good since 2008 when Edward Norton played the character.
@strout2944
@strout2944 Жыл бұрын
@@edenarchive4150 both are trash. But his being in favor of free speech is a positive point.
@benmiles00
@benmiles00 Жыл бұрын
@@edenarchive4150 really? That show is also awful.
@benmiles00
@benmiles00 Жыл бұрын
Chris knows his stuff. I can completely respect his viewpoint. I mean if Twitter stopped working tomorrow would anyone actually miss it? Honestly? I certainly wouldn't. It's more of a dive than Mos Eisley in my opinion.
@MjollTheLioness-o4y
@MjollTheLioness-o4y Жыл бұрын
The Critical Drinker pointed something out in one of his recent videos. What a lot of studios, and even actors, are doing now is fan-bating. They go out of their way it seems to provoke a negative response from the audience just for the publicity of it. Also, it's always it nice to see Chris in these videos. As usual he nails it.
@CruelQuertos
@CruelQuertos Жыл бұрын
The critical drinker, now thats a stupid name of a youtube channel.
@apollolux
@apollolux Жыл бұрын
Indeed, part of the problem with modern Hollywood and companies in general is when they think an extremely vocal minority on social media represents the majority of _paying_ customers, then cater to that minority at the expense of everyone else and wonder perplexed how they're mysteriously losing money.
@listrahtes
@listrahtes Жыл бұрын
Its not only that but that people working in Hollywood including lots of actors have similar mindsets. Listen to Olivia Wilde f.e. or Disney boss. No one is living more in a bubble than the people in Hollywood
@AlexG-xl1cc
@AlexG-xl1cc Жыл бұрын
Perfect example of this is the recent "Bros" movie about a gay couple, they are blaming straight people for being bigoted for not paying to see a movie about a minority group. Business is about appealing to the largest common denominator, not various niche groups.
@bluehydrangea5506
@bluehydrangea5506 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexG-xl1cc or when elizabeth banks accused people of being sexist for not watching her charlies angels reboot.
@AvatarJian
@AvatarJian Жыл бұрын
@@bluehydrangea5506 I remember she criticized Spielberg for not directing a movie about a woman who was a main character. When he did, "The Color Purple". But if he didn't would take away from all his accomplishments? Nope.
@ivanhenderson31
@ivanhenderson31 Жыл бұрын
This is a trailing component of the MeToo and LGBTQRSTUV+ movement that focuses on corporate image and social views + clicks to generate interest and income. This is an interesting take and it is very valuable. Wish Hollywood would wake up....
@studebricker2845
@studebricker2845 Жыл бұрын
Why would they wake Chris up from his afternoon nap to talk about Rings of Power LOL
@milton7763
@milton7763 Жыл бұрын
“There’s a big audience that kind have moved away from his work because of how he has presented himself on social media” That and Masters of the Universe Chris, that and Masters of the Universe
@franug
@franug Жыл бұрын
I was recently talking to some friends about how I'm certain when our kids (currently babies or toddlers) are older, we will have regulated social media way more than now, because it's so obvious by now how horrible it is for us, and for society. So I totally agree with Chris' sentiment that social media is worse than smoking, and smoking was a huge normalized part of life not so long ago, and now it isn't as much. Governments everywhere need to step up about this
@failuregaming6611
@failuregaming6611 Жыл бұрын
Basically you want the government to limit free speech on privately owned websites. This will not stop the toxic WOKE lynch mob getting a kick out of cancelling people. White supremacist will always find a way to be racist.
@jjforcebreaker
@jjforcebreaker Жыл бұрын
I see Chris Gore in the title I click. Always equally interesting and entertaining. And as sad as the topics may get, he always is somehow upbeat. Thanks for making these interviews!
@filmcourage
@filmcourage Жыл бұрын
More to come!
@atrent3732
@atrent3732 Жыл бұрын
100% in agreement
@codiethompson3401
@codiethompson3401 Жыл бұрын
Same. Film courage does a lot of great content but for my it’s the interviews with Chris that earned my Subscription.
@Kingeptacon
@Kingeptacon Жыл бұрын
Chris has kept it real for decades now. That’s a big reason why people have so much respect for him. Like you guys, I see a Chris Gore vid pop up that’s an auto-click.
@jacquestube
@jacquestube Жыл бұрын
It's kind of embarrassing but you know that thing where you see a name and you don't know where you see it so you're not sure if you like them or dislike them? For some reason I always keep thinking Chris Gore is going to be a fucking sjw and every time I'm pleasantly surprised that he's not LOL I don't know why that's what I've got stuck in my head about him
@TomTomTom87
@TomTomTom87 Жыл бұрын
Love these Chris Gore interviews, he’s great!
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Same.
@filmcourage
@filmcourage Жыл бұрын
More to come!
@ninamuller1736
@ninamuller1736 Жыл бұрын
I could listen to him for hours!!!!
@DouglasZanini
@DouglasZanini Жыл бұрын
Rings of Power is not art, its an investment, which Amazon is now trying to protect. I remember watching the making of from the original LOTR trilogy, you could see and feel the passion from, not just Peter Jackson, but all the actors involved and how deeply they connected to Tolkien's work and their characters. Everything they put in those movies, even the smallest details were purposeful. Many of the production aspects were experimental, not just visual effects but the logistics of the whole enterprise which was massive. Nothing of this dimension has ever been attempted until then, and there was a lot of risk taking, including personal risks from the director as well as all the cast and crew. A lot was riding on this, but their passion kept the project going to a resounding success. Rings of Power is lifeless in comparison. There's no passion, no personal involvement from anyone in production, no attachment and respect to the original material, nothing. Its just another Tuesday at Amazon. Cash flow, quarterly ends, investor's calls. Money. No passion, no commitment, no risks, nothing, just a vacuous shiny shell.
@Aldanora
@Aldanora Жыл бұрын
I could listen for hours to this man... Just found your channel and already on 3rd video 😂
@FrancisGo.
@FrancisGo. Жыл бұрын
The MCU taught Hollywood the wrong lesson. They think you don't have to understand the lore of an IP to do it justice, but the MCU had a solid foundation before it reached the point of losing track of the core of its appeal.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯. The first Iron Man is still fantastic
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
The MCU started off so simple but then became sooo complicated. Also, if it wasn’t for Iron Man 1 and The Dark Knight, we’d have more Batman and Robins as well
@durchhalter
@durchhalter Жыл бұрын
@@chasehedges6775 I get what you‘re going for, but to be fair, the MCU tries to be the on-screen version of a comic book universe… and it succeeds, including the inevitable bloating that comes with years of additional content and characters. It‘s not a phenomenon specific to nowadays Hollywood but to the very nature of non-limited comics.
@FrancisGo.
@FrancisGo. Жыл бұрын
@@durchhalter Not every Marvel comic was a banger. Most weren't. Most superhero comics failed historically, but we tend to remember only the storyline's that held up with the test of time. I'm not saying they should have a literal rehashing of those comics. Just cherry pick what about the material really got people excited about it in the first place. The appeal of Lord of the Rings should actually be easier to pinpoint than that. Oddly enough, the same thing happened to Playboy Magazine. They got rid of the nudes. I think they brought them back, but then they put a man on the cover. The people in charge of these legacy IPs really don't seem to be fans of them, so they harbor these bizarre fantasies of how they can change society through them, but it doesn't pan out.
@durchhalter
@durchhalter Жыл бұрын
@@FrancisGo. Well, you may not like it, which is everybody’s prerogative, but the MCU, with all its many flaws, seems to be doing a better job at creating a shared universe than the comics it‘s based upon. Almost 14 years at the top of the film industry is objectively „doing great“, even if, for some individuals and for some understandable reasons, it‘s subjectively bad from time to time. And a veritable hype will never be able to be upheld continuously, especially not directly after a climax. There’s bound to be a phase of calming down before there even is the chance to go up again… there are some biological parallels to be found here ;-) That being said, I too have no idea what Hollywood thought when they were doing The Rings of Power, especially after Peter Jackson already did the material so well about 20 years ago. Taking notes of what worked well, getting rid of the little flaws here and there, and then following the pattern with the newly adapted material should have been a no-brainer.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
2022 has definitely been a year of alienating audiences with mediocre/average content. Their have been some good things but it’s very hit and miss.
@utisti4976
@utisti4976 Жыл бұрын
As of the past year, the only good movies I've seen were Everything Everywhere All At Once, RRR, and Top Gun Maverick. That's it. Total embarassment for Hollywood.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
@@utisti4976 yep
@AA-cf4es
@AA-cf4es Жыл бұрын
They are not alienating people with average movies, oh no; the alienation process starts even before. Aggressive pandering towards small vocal minority, blaming audience for failure, claiming they are racist/sexist even before the ending of the box office period... It's not just bad movies, it's bad marketing, bad PR and hateful arrogant attitude towards majority of the audience.
@shadysorkin9214
@shadysorkin9214 Жыл бұрын
House of the dragon is pretty dope. Other than that Top Gun Maverick is just about all I can think of. The rest has been hot garbage that is just review pandering nonsense.
@Tazio_01
@Tazio_01 Жыл бұрын
Better Call Saul carried the series world on its back this year
@Sonar90
@Sonar90 Жыл бұрын
I wrote an honest review with three stars and Amazon withheld it, so that review turned into an even lengthier and more carefully written review of two stars and somehow I broke their guidelines.. so, I tried to write a short one sentence review. One star of course and they stopped emailing me about the status of my review attempts. Pretty much hit the nail on the head here, for I just write my opinions about the show everywhere else. They can't control word of mouth and I tell everyone I meet that brings up the show about how the show deserves not a single star on principal over Amazon's behavior alone.
@tams805
@tams805 Жыл бұрын
And yet despite their best efforts, it's still sitting around three stars, lol.
@fandude7
@fandude7 Жыл бұрын
Again, Chris is 110% on everything. Love Chris. More Gore Por Favor.
@wasteland70
@wasteland70 Жыл бұрын
There is no mystique to Hollywood anymore. It used to be fun to watch the Oscars, see all the stars and the outfits and the humor. We live in an unromantic age. Even in our day to day lives, just nothing romantic, nothing of the spiritual, enigmatic, magical. Social media merely lets the worst of us be shown. I really enjoy Mr. Gore's videos. I don't go to the movies anymore because I feel like I'm disrespecting my own thinking.
@therasbull
@therasbull Жыл бұрын
When Chris speaks, you listen
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Indeed
@arduiscane
@arduiscane Жыл бұрын
Chris Gore is an absolute genius. These social media tools and the ridiculous directional power they wield will someday be viewed as historically toxic and negativity influential. I know there is a "star" element argument here and I completely agree. I also feel that I just don't care what a celebrity has to say about anything. We as a society should reduce them to performance and entertainment value. They are not qualified to provide us with any further consumption whether that is a political opinion, a cause they champion, or specifics about their private lives. Any penetration beyond the medium produced on either the fans side (i.e. tabloids) or performers side (i.e. Twitter) should be avoided.
@Damageonthestack
@Damageonthestack Жыл бұрын
There's a reason Chris Gore's FC vids have millions of views: he's speaking for so many people. Too bad no one in Hollywood is listening.
@Adam-wt5id
@Adam-wt5id Жыл бұрын
I saw paddington 2 when i worked at a theater as a joke. I was really surprised by how much I enjoyed it. Sometimes walking into something blind and just evaluating what it reveals itself to be is the best course of action for subjective opinions. If you already have an idea of another persons subjective take, you’ll be weighing the source material against their opinion instead of merely measuring its weight. We all have our own scales.
@BreadCatMarcus
@BreadCatMarcus Жыл бұрын
Man, I went into the first Paddington not expecting much. I left the theater in love with the world and characters and felt so happy and fulfilled. Same with the sequel. We need more optimistic and endearing films like that.
@weatethepie
@weatethepie Жыл бұрын
thats how I appraoch all media. idc if there's a universe or a source material or if it's canon or not. I go in expecting to see a story that looks interesting. if it is or isn't that's to decide at the end of the movie.
@teur7078
@teur7078 Жыл бұрын
Imao padinwhat?
@qwertyboo
@qwertyboo Жыл бұрын
@@teur7078 Paddington 1 & 2 are unironically good.
@30noir
@30noir Жыл бұрын
Amazing what can happen if you respect the source material.
@madaxe606
@madaxe606 Жыл бұрын
4:54 is absolutely spot-on. You would think more actors would understand the value of not creating strong associations with their own selves in the mind of their audience. Or potential audience, given how many of them seem determined to alienate a huge chunk of the public by being unnecessarily obnoxious on social media. Nobody wants to see Santa Claus take off his beard to eat lunch in the mall food court. Twitter simply reveals just shows how many actors are slaves to their narcissism.
@Blixthand
@Blixthand Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't want to know too much about actors. I don't even have social media, and I try to stay off the most gossipy and click-baity KZfaq videos, but I'm still exposed to way too much of actors' lives. I still enjoy going to cons and getting a photo or an autograph, that a nice memento and an experience to get to see an actor you like in real life, but I never attend the Q&A sessions or ask any questions at the table. I just want to see this person, shake their hand, thank them for a movie of show that ment a lot to me and then be off. I don't want to know anything about their lives.
@stevenygabbyperez695
@stevenygabbyperez695 Жыл бұрын
They are human beings not your little toys. Let them live their own lives. If they want to be public and inter act and even make fools of themselves let them. People act like they are so special because they don't want to know about actors personal lives but if they do find out they want to judge them and their art for what they learn. How about famous people can have political opinions or be weird or support a different candidate than you and we can be mature enough not to let it affect us.
@madaxe606
@madaxe606 Жыл бұрын
@@stevenygabbyperez695Dude, no one is claiming they're 'special', so stop projecting. We're simply pointing out that someone whose livelihood depends on the audience being able to suspend their disbelief when they're portraying a character on screen isnt well-served by using their celebrity to make personal statements. Especially when those statements are often extremely polarizing and antagonistic to a large segment of the population. If my neighbor stands on his porch yelling obnoxious crap into the street, then guess what? I'm going to conclude he's a jackass, and I'm going to want nothing to do with him as a result. Same concept. That's not even remotely akin to seeing them as 'toys' or stopping them from 'living their own lives'. THEY are the ones using their fame to stand on a soapbox. If they don't want some of their potential audience to shun them as a result, then maybe they should consider toning down the sanctimony.
@FromGamingwithLove0456
@FromGamingwithLove0456 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoying this series and learning a lot on the broader picture of creative expression and consumption! Thank you!
@John-hj2mv
@John-hj2mv Жыл бұрын
The Jack Ryan series, Reacher, and Terminal List are all examples of Amazon's ability to do adaptations that hardcore fans of the source material could live with, if not enjoy just as casual viewers have done. There in lies the rub with rings of power. When you have source material that gives you endless amounts of detailed lore and character profiles AND you do what they're doing, that shows that the show runners and EPs have real disdain for true Tolkien fans.
@shawn-zx9xt
@shawn-zx9xt Жыл бұрын
They don't actually own the rights to The Silmarillion. That's the main reason I passed. After GOT seasons 7 and 8 I feel as if I learned my lesson. If you aren't being true to source material you will often muddy the waters with your own agenda driven fan fiction that is far from the imagination of the original author.
@Aphorim
@Aphorim Жыл бұрын
The thing is, it's not solely amazon. In some projects all they do is bankroll, like the rings of power and creative freedom is given to the showrunners
@dannyt4663
@dannyt4663 Жыл бұрын
Amazon has great dramas and thrillers but they cannot seem to get it right when it comes to fantasy lol. It's like by simply buying the rights to an IP, they think they've bought a compliant fanbase eager to consume anything with the IP's name on it. Then they're confused why fans are upset when the adaption feels nothing like the IP the fanbase knows, loves, and understands. "What? This has all the character names and places of the IP, and we spent lots of money on special effects, hmm all this criticism must be unfounded racism, sexism, or nerds who want a 1:1 carbon copy! Instead of figuring out where we went wrong, let's instead censor reviews and call out the fans for being bad fans and bad people, too!"
@mick-ericboettge8683
@mick-ericboettge8683 Жыл бұрын
Guess I'm a fake Tolkien fan for liking his books and the adaptations. Extra fake fan points for liking games based on his work too 💪
@cj_thegamergoon1201
@cj_thegamergoon1201 Жыл бұрын
@@mick-ericboettge8683 it’s all subjective to the individual at the end of the day
@mrbeans2425
@mrbeans2425 Жыл бұрын
Chris is so well spoken and explains these problems so clearly, if only someone in Hollywood would listen.
@TallisKeeton
@TallisKeeton Жыл бұрын
- Tolkien fandom stands alone. - Not alone. Fandoms ! - To the king ! :)
@disf5178
@disf5178 Жыл бұрын
This guy is REALLY INTERESTING! So glad this showed up in my feed. Chris Gore !
@johnjames2470
@johnjames2470 Жыл бұрын
Shutting down reviews says everything you need to know about what the audience thinks of Rings of Power.
@jamierobertson9832
@jamierobertson9832 Жыл бұрын
The Drinker said it recently as well. In the pre social media days the general public had much more respect and almost reverance for celebrities / movie stars. The moment we saw that many pretty faces are just stupid, flawed and unhinged readers of other peoples words we kind of lost interest in them.
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom Жыл бұрын
His comments about social media being one day considered more unhealthy than smoking is so spot on. I limit myself to a few youtube comments and an extremely skimpy facebook friends list and I can still feel the negativity on my life. I can’t imagine what Twitter users go through.
@MrAsmontero
@MrAsmontero Жыл бұрын
Ooff.. twitter is... a rage cesspit...
@noel_curray
@noel_curray Жыл бұрын
I agree with him about the stars becoming "accessible" through social media. I miss their mystery and me wondering what their life is.
@fartknockerR17
@fartknockerR17 Жыл бұрын
I'm not at all a "movie person", but Chris's answers are so solid and well-thought-out, I enjoy his videos greatly.
@TheOrangeRoad
@TheOrangeRoad Жыл бұрын
I'm part of that former Kevin Smith audience. I really try and separate the art from the artist, but when it comes to giving them money, I draw the line
@drumboy256
@drumboy256 Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment.
@joQing.7384
@joQing.7384 Жыл бұрын
Oh definitely. However, in the case of Kevin Smith, I’d say it’s a combination of realizing I don’t like him as a person colliding with a significant downturn in the quality of his output.
@Rakshiir
@Rakshiir Жыл бұрын
@@joQing.7384 I think that is an issue with alot of actors or directors, creators or however you want to call them. As soon as they start to fall to far into what is mostly called "woke thinking", the product often suffers. For some reason alot of them can't keep their agenda out of the work.
@robertmcdougall1144
@robertmcdougall1144 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, at some point - one needs to come to the realisations that you get what you "support". Being hopeful for "change" is nothing more then just... gambling. You're just relying on luck and the naïve perception that those who want to make money are in it for the "art", and that it just "one bad streak" for every (progressively) crappy products they produce.
@praterjohnwfg
@praterjohnwfg Жыл бұрын
Movie poopshoot!
@BR-bv8yl
@BR-bv8yl Жыл бұрын
Chris seems like a wise fellow.
@UporaFilms
@UporaFilms Жыл бұрын
Chris Gore, it is sooooooo good to see you! Wish you would come back to G4, and still waiting on that doc!
@Dragonmoon98
@Dragonmoon98 Жыл бұрын
"Don't go see it if you think it's something you wouldn't like" That's another thing, there's a sense that, in some cases, it's almost mandatory to see a movie, otherwise you get branded with some kind of ism. No matter if it's a genre you don't like, or if you can't afford it, or what have you.
@davidcoleman757
@davidcoleman757 Жыл бұрын
Chris is consistently on the money. There's a place and a necessity for the more emotional defenders of pop culture, but I like Chris's reasoned and measured take on things. He's always worth paying attention to.
@DJdext
@DJdext Жыл бұрын
This became a thing because Amazon intentionally alienated their LOTRs fan base and continued to double down on this. It seemed at every turn they shat on the built in fan base they had so they have to own this. That along with the fact they do have writing issues, acting issues, and production issues within the show itself.
@belegur8108
@belegur8108 Жыл бұрын
and that is so weird, because all those easter eggs they throw in this show are only recognizable by the same fan base, they are antagonising with every other thing they do lorewise... let alone all the other problems you listed...
@Briznor
@Briznor Жыл бұрын
It's a peculiar choice, isn't it? Why even invest in an IP with a built-in fan base and then drive away those fans? Could have just started with new IP...
@DJdext
@DJdext Жыл бұрын
@@Briznor yes. They could have done original story and original characters and then have the legacy characters be on the periphery or save the day at the last minute. Imagine Guy-ladriel not being the focus but appearing in all her magical glory to save them all in Helms cheap. That would have been awesome. Well as awesome as Amazon could do it anyway.
@AlexG-xl1cc
@AlexG-xl1cc Жыл бұрын
Amazon literally said Tolkien and his fans were white supremacists so idk what you expect.
@dibaterman
@dibaterman Жыл бұрын
The same way that he talks about actors being cheapened is what happened with the BA characters in LOTR. These people were legendary bad asses in lore. But the writing has been so horrible I wouldn't trust anyone of the writers with extending an episode of Rick and Morty much less LOTR. So now if I watch I see a childish Galadriel that may as well be evil and everyone else in her scene is just incompetent. This show was written for 5 year olds I guess.
@sprinter82
@sprinter82 Жыл бұрын
If anyone who cares to, _is_ being honest...We were not ready for social media. As I'd commented on a whole other video, this thing we call social media is in no way unlike being in a relationship--The goings are only as good as they are without it. You will never find me on any of that.
@jaredguffey1185
@jaredguffey1185 Жыл бұрын
Chris always tries to do his best in giving an objective pov and also speaking what most of us audiences think and feel!
@nasalpolecat091
@nasalpolecat091 Жыл бұрын
Spot on J G. Spot on.
@TallisKeeton
@TallisKeeton Жыл бұрын
" Amazon never cared about the canon, anyway. And they simply didn't care or understand what Tolkien's creation MEANT to the fans. They just thought they could get away with slapping a Tolkien sticker onto their crackfiction and the fans would come running. Well, they did. Fully armed. " :D
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Same with Disney and their horrible remakes, their treatment of Star Wars etc.
@yuliansuke1367
@yuliansuke1367 Жыл бұрын
@@chasehedges6775 disney also ruined marvel
@belegur8108
@belegur8108 Жыл бұрын
@@yuliansuke1367 Amazon also Wheel of Time... well not ruined the original material, becasue nothing can... but they missed out on the great opportunities to show us entertaining adaptations of books, that build up a massive fan base on their own merits. Putting in modern real world agendas just is not what the writers did in the first place... they wrote fantasy... as per definition a world that is different in so many ways.
@AdamHuishStreaming
@AdamHuishStreaming Жыл бұрын
i really appreciated this video and Chris’s views
@blackswarm1013
@blackswarm1013 Жыл бұрын
It's unbelievable how much I agree with this man. He said so many important things in this interview. I'm so glad that he has the opportunity to speak his mind here. His insights into the movie business are always interesting. He's so right about celebrities and how they just get more unlikeable if they use social media. That's why I dislike a lot of famous people now. There are just very few I still like and respect. It makes sense: Every time you read something about a person, the possibility that you read something that makes the person unlikable increases. And it's difficult to ignore that from that point in time. Also, I agree that social media influences the movies and shows itself is terrible for the creativity. They change them although they don't even know if the mob on twitter watches it at all. I don't understand why these big corporations care about these cry-babies online. Do they realize that people tend to voice their opinions if they are unhappy and not when they are happy with the product? Do they believe that these people are millions? Do they believe that the journalists' opinions are always on average in relation to the population? Do they realize that they hurt their own reputation and money making? It just doesn't make sense. I hope the people in these media companies realize that they alienate a lot of normal people if they make changes that feel like something that doesn't belong in these movies and shows. It seems that social media is like an unhealthy drug that makes people unable to be calm and reflective. Honestly, if nobody comes up with good rules and laws then society will get a lot worse. It's a terrible time for ordinary people who just want to enjoy creative and fun media.
@walternate2914
@walternate2914 Жыл бұрын
Wow his guy is so down to earth and level headed. Wish more artists were like him
@TheBelrick
@TheBelrick Жыл бұрын
Amazon, is engaging in cultural warfare for purposes of demoralization they took fantasy representation of celtic, gaelic, saxon culture and stole it for other people's usage. It is the worst type of cultural crime. And add to this, they trashed it because the product they made was for those ideological reasons not entertainment purposes. Their hires were all activists and ideologues absent passion and capability. What can we do? We can turn our back on their racist products . We give them the power. As far me and my family is concerned, none of hollywoods recent works exist. We are happy watching films made by OUR people for OUR people.
@Despair505
@Despair505 Жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't he be? He's not a celebrity lol
@TheBelrick
@TheBelrick Жыл бұрын
@@Despair505 good people dont become celebrities in this hollywood.
@Despair505
@Despair505 Жыл бұрын
@@TheBelrick Seems like an excuse really
@TheBelrick
@TheBelrick Жыл бұрын
@@Despair505 just an observation
@greyeyed123
@greyeyed123 Жыл бұрын
Many reviews on Amazon and elsewhere are fake. "I bought this for my husband, and he loves it. He had the other kinds before, but he says this one is so much better than the other guy's. Life is so much better now. Highly recommend it."
@andrewz6986
@andrewz6986 Жыл бұрын
God I love this man and his respect for not only the source material but the fans of said source materials which is so non existant these days
@equinsuocha1213
@equinsuocha1213 Жыл бұрын
10:27 I’ve been preaching a similar message for years. The immediate AND long term impact of social media on people’s lives should be taken seriously. It’s a radical change in how we interact with information, with ourselves, each other and the world as a whole. It goes far beyond what we can see on the surface.
@cbstevp
@cbstevp Жыл бұрын
He's right about the influencer thing. A producer I know sent me a pitch deck for a movie he was trying to raise money for. In the pitch deck were the bios of the four actors he wanted as options for the female lead. Their bios included how many Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram followers they each had. He said that is something every investor asks about nowadays.
@AlexG-xl1cc
@AlexG-xl1cc Жыл бұрын
And then they wonder why their movie bombs lmao. Social Media Stats are lazy data mining that's all, it's not at all connected to paying customers.
@alanjamesh.zamorano1677
@alanjamesh.zamorano1677 Жыл бұрын
How sad
@colincopland3665
@colincopland3665 Жыл бұрын
Ironic because most of those “followers” are bots purchased by the actor’s publicist from either a social media company or a 3rd party tech firm.
@pigs18
@pigs18 Жыл бұрын
Did you think Chris Pratt is Mario because they had creative differences with the regular voice actor? He's in the movie because my mom knows who Chris Pratt is.
@FireJach
@FireJach Жыл бұрын
@@pigs18 true
@emmanuelatti86
@emmanuelatti86 Жыл бұрын
Sonic movie adaption success is proof that audience feedback is sometimes a good thing.
@khoatran415
@khoatran415 Жыл бұрын
This man is the best thing about the series.
@victortonelli5670
@victortonelli5670 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughts. It's truly enlightening.
@huntress1013
@huntress1013 Жыл бұрын
He is wonderful. The way he carefully phrases everything and doesn't hurt on purpose. I am glad that Clerks 3 is this good but yeah I am one of those people who nowadays avoids anything involving Kevin Smith and he is right. Most of his wounds are self-inflicted and unnecessary. Regarding Rings of Bollocks...it is a textbook example of everything that is currently wrong with Hollywood.
@KiltBill2
@KiltBill2 Жыл бұрын
If Amazon were just honest and said "Look, we accept that Tolkien envisaged Middle Earth as white European. But we believe everyone accepts that that's not something we can really portray in 2022, as BAME deserve to be involved in such a massive project, too." Instead if "Look, peasants, just because you've re-read these books dozens of times over decades doesn't mean you understand it. Our $1 billion means we can do whatever we want, and it can only be racism that stops you enjoying it!"
@jonathanharwood1255
@jonathanharwood1255 Жыл бұрын
@@KiltBill2 which is absolutely dishonest too. Just because it's "current year", doesn't mean you can shit on already existing IPs to push a narrative that panders to the current trending group think.
@Choom2077
@Choom2077 Жыл бұрын
" Rings of Bollocks" 😂 Well said. All of it.
@metazoxan2
@metazoxan2 Жыл бұрын
Same. The bait and switch he did with Heeman and Teela and the way he attacked fans to defend that bullshit was it for me. If you want to make a show focused on Teela ... fine the the has other characters you can focus on. But don't bill it as a Heman show and then start it with him being presumed dead and insulted. If you're work is really so "brave" and "progressive" then you shouldn't need to be ashamed about it and hide it. All else aside it was the lies that earned the most backlash regarding the He man show. It wasn't mysogany or anything like that. Despite what Hollywood wants to think we don't hate strong women, we just want strong characters that happen to be women ... not women written to be strong because they are women, women who are basically written like men (because the writer apparently can't think of any femanin traits that they think can be strong), and especially not women that need to put men down to appear strong in comparison. Kim Possible was of my favorite Disney Channels shows and she was a girly girl that kicked ass! But despite having good examples of how to write a good female protagonist Hollywood keeps failing at it anyway.
@joshuagraham2843
@joshuagraham2843 Жыл бұрын
and they canonized velma gay and it didnt bothered me its just both warnerbros and normal people are attacking each other there both toxic i really liked the animation its so smooth and nice and i avoid twitter and the toxic negativity
@JudithYD
@JudithYD Жыл бұрын
"One of the best things you can do for your mental health is not be on social media." Thank you!!!
@cvetanvelinov4404
@cvetanvelinov4404 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Thank you!
@howardgalloway5606
@howardgalloway5606 Жыл бұрын
Holy cow, a man who seeks wisdom and understanding, and not just within his own field. Excellent interview.
@nunyabizness6595
@nunyabizness6595 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy Chris Gore. Very smart man.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
💯
@fhuzy
@fhuzy Жыл бұрын
@@chasehedges6775 💯x 10
@derekhudson3415
@derekhudson3415 Жыл бұрын
This guy is the most reasonable thinking person I've ever saw articulate cinema and social media.
@marcblanchet678
@marcblanchet678 Жыл бұрын
"the less I know about a celebrity, the more I tend to like them". Thats true of almost every human. The quiet, non-interactive people you meet you generally have a positive view of. Its once you learn they are furries that things change.
@danmcmanus8098
@danmcmanus8098 Жыл бұрын
Chris is my favorite part of this series. The man is always on target.
@somarriba333
@somarriba333 Жыл бұрын
Trying to pander to everyone is like making a pizza that includes EVERYTHING on it and then no one wants that pizza.
@ricardolujan5571
@ricardolujan5571 Жыл бұрын
This man is one of those rare persons that I can listen to speak for HOURS!
@navylaks2
@navylaks2 Жыл бұрын
I must admit that I do not miss the days of the movie stars. I just want to be entertained by the material, nothing else.
@STOLACE
@STOLACE Жыл бұрын
This was some fantastic commentary. I think social media has basically become the digital tabloids publications, those magazines we would shun in the grocery checkout lane because the cover claims were so far off in left field. I appreciate how, even though this is about the film and television industry, this directly correlates to many other areas of creative expression.
@bruce-le-smith
@bruce-le-smith Жыл бұрын
yes, love it, social media is definitely turning into the 'weekly world news' {said in the voice of May MacKenzie in So I Married An Axe Murderer}
@richardcoleman3425
@richardcoleman3425 Жыл бұрын
I love most of what Chris says on these subjects, but for myself, if an actor bullies fans online I don't watch any more of that actor's work. You don't reward a child for bad behavior, and an adult should know better (and Kevin Smith is a great example). IMO. I guess that just makes Chris a better man than me...
@MNM-lq9te
@MNM-lq9te Жыл бұрын
Someone should take this vid and put it in the unitentional asmr basket for these two certainly have the voices to do asmr and their soft gental tones is so pleasant to listen to.
@DepWilkerson
@DepWilkerson Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know this guy from anything. It says he’s in Amelie which I love. Now I’m searching him so I can support him. He is amazing
@albertabramson3157
@albertabramson3157 Жыл бұрын
Nice! Chris Gore talking about AMAZON'S shutting down movie reviews. Once again, he knocks it out of the park!
@dritzzdarkwood4727
@dritzzdarkwood4727 Жыл бұрын
I've really missed this format! It's more intimate and concise, and the lady always ask very interesting questions. I hope more are made in the future!
@bruce-le-smith
@bruce-le-smith Жыл бұрын
I really miss Inside The Actors Studio, this interview format gives a bit of that feeling
@scatterthewinds3126
@scatterthewinds3126 Жыл бұрын
it's so refreshing to get a normal interview from a normal individual not weighed down by political BS.
@dlloyd6300
@dlloyd6300 Жыл бұрын
what an inciteful and level headed conversation...
@madaxe606
@madaxe606 Жыл бұрын
8:05 describes me exactly, I'm sad to say. I've lost the ability to look past an artist's behaviour off screen. Chris is right, and perhaps he's a better man than I for being able to do it. But I just don't want to go to the extra effort any more. Life is too short for that, and there's plenty of content out there from artists who don't openly despise me.
@Hmfirestormz
@Hmfirestormz Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate!
@sicarius100
@sicarius100 Жыл бұрын
yeah exactly
@ISIIN15
@ISIIN15 Жыл бұрын
Its hard nowadays because theyre so loud and combative about it
@UncleScorch
@UncleScorch Жыл бұрын
Well said madaxe - I pretty much just gave the same opinion/comment but you said it much better than I. Getting harder and harder to do these days.
@madaxe606
@madaxe606 Жыл бұрын
@@maravertin There’s a legitimate point that a a terrible person can still make great art, which is what I think Chris was suggesting people focus on. And he’s right that we might miss out on something worthwhile if we boycott it because one of the creatives behind it is an a-hole. However, I tend to agree with you - it’s a holistic experience, and the creator is part of that. Since I have limited time to spend on enjoying films, books, video games, and I have to be selective about which I chose, why shouldn’t supporting creators who don’t despise me be part of that process?
@Texastentialist-ls9kz
@Texastentialist-ls9kz Жыл бұрын
We see ourselves in our stories. That’s why people get passionate when a corporation mangles them.
@ivermectin1974
@ivermectin1974 Жыл бұрын
No we don’t see ourselves. We shouldn’t see ourselves in movies. You can relate. But seeing ourselves is why Hollywood checks boxes.
@lornemalvo4492
@lornemalvo4492 Жыл бұрын
Hey look, another video where Chris Gore absolutely nails it.
@MalakianM2S
@MalakianM2S Жыл бұрын
I love both previous clerk movies, really love them, to the point that I'm deeply grateful for them because Kevin Smith really lived in the mind and spirit of some people of his generation, I felt at home with both movies. I'm so scared about how I'd feel about the third movie that I can't bring myself to watch it.
@kevdmiller
@kevdmiller Жыл бұрын
I think he really stuck the landing here. I don't think you have to worry.
@MalakianM2S
@MalakianM2S Жыл бұрын
@@kevdmiller Thanks a lot for the info.
@l.b.2392
@l.b.2392 Жыл бұрын
Here's a blueprint for actors/creators dealing with crytical fans: "Thank you so much for your attention and money! Being in my position is a huge privilege and, while I love my work, this privilege is fundamented in the audience. The fact that you care so much and emotionally about the film/show I'm involved in further proves your passion for the art. That is amazing and fuels my own drive! I might not always agree with your position and critic but want to thank you once more for you passion and support!"
@LadyDecember
@LadyDecember Жыл бұрын
Zachary Levi is one of the few actors I've found who lives up to that. He has mentioned numerous times how "the fans are the producers". If they don't pay for, consume, or want the product, actors have nothing. Zachary Levi seems to have incredible humility and perspective and I can't help but respect and love him for it. He constantly calls himself blessed for being in the position he's in.
@ashishbhatt3467
@ashishbhatt3467 Жыл бұрын
This is a classic/default reply. Learning these few words and having courage to say them will definitely goes long way in the life. It shows the humbleness.
@gavinjenkins899
@gavinjenkins899 Жыл бұрын
Training to be a good actor or writer and getting a contract because of it is not a "privilege", it's something you worked for and earned. Unless you literally got it by being the boss' nephew or something. Otherwise yes, being nice and thanking people a lot is of course always a good thing.
@l.b.2392
@l.b.2392 Жыл бұрын
@@gavinjenkins899 Many people work hard but it's not the only factor which gets you to the highest level of success.
@cobrakats7440
@cobrakats7440 Жыл бұрын
It requires class and self-control to respond that way.
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