How to Assemble Oil and Grease a Grandfather Clock part 3 of 4

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Link to this video's blog posting with text summary and hi-res photo gallery.
www.toddfun.com/2016/08/07/how...
In this video (part 3) I show how to assemble, oil and grease a Grandfather clock mechanism
Link to my first video on this grandfather clock
www.toddfun.com/2016/01/10/how...
Link to my test Stand build and hammer refurbish video
www.toddfun.com/2016/03/13/gra...
Link to part 1 (Examine clock)
www.toddfun.com/2016/03/14/how...
Link to part 2a (Disassemble clock)
www.toddfun.com/2016/05/30/how...
Link to part 2b (Clean clock)
www.toddfun.com/2016/06/01/how...
Link to part 3 (Oil clock).
www.toddfun.com/2016/08/07/how...
Link to part 4 (Setup clock).
www.toddfun.com/2016/11/02/how...
Shopping:
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Clock grease I get on Amazon:
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Mainspring Grease Bellows
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Clock cleaner
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Movement Test Stand P1942 $80.00
www.merritts.com/clock_parts/p...
timesavers.com/i-8950881-grand...
Bushing tools
timesavers.com/i-9500841-clamp...
Shopping and parts for floor clocks:
timesavers.com/
bigbenclocks.com/ecom.asp?
store.howardmiller.com
www.blackforestimports.com
retail.blackforestimports.com/...
www.kieninger.com/english_lang
www.clockworks.com/clock-move...
Useful links on floor clocks:
www.howardmiller.com/
www.clockworks.com/clock-movem...
www.clockworks.com/clock-movem...
www.grandfatherclocks123.com/c...
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/ toddrharrison

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@michaelharms6123 5 жыл бұрын

Todd, I would like to thank you for your great videos regarding clock maintenance, cleaning, greasing and oiling. I built my clock in the early 70's and in the 90's it stopped working due to a broken suspension spring. Now that I am retired I finally had time to get it back working. I ordered the spring and some cleaning solution then watched your videos. Happy to report, it works better than ever. Thank you!

@ToddFun 5 жыл бұрын

Great news! Thanks Michael Harms.

@michaelharms6123 5 жыл бұрын

@@ToddFun Now its on to my parents spring wind wall clock I inherited. It keeps time but has a bad chime mainspring that I have to order and install. Then cleaning and oiling is next. Thanks again for your informative videos.

@ktluu2008 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video series, Todd! We just inherited a grandfather clock and I have not been able to get it to run, so I suspect it needs a cleaning. I am going to attempt to do it myself with your videos. The correct reassembly is what is making me nervous.

@cashcristiano9052 2 жыл бұрын

instablaster.

@pravinkansara965 7 жыл бұрын

Fantastic don't know where to begin I've started repairing old clocks and love doing them and you are an inspiration many thaks

@ToddFun 7 жыл бұрын

Glad to help. Check out the show notes or the blog posts at ToddFun.com for more links to great resources.

@dazzfromaus4797 2 ай бұрын

Extremely informative. Many thanks . A job well done. Thanks Todd.

@debbiecote3993 4 жыл бұрын

Very good series of videos Todd. I have my grandfather clock on my bench trying to decide how far I should go to finish cleaning and oiling. I was thinking of using your brake cleaner idea, letting it dry, then oiling it and done! I really wanted to see how too take it apart, that was very informative. But I'm not doing that. Lots I could screw up if I went that far. I don't need any bushings. Thanks for explaining how to check those. All in all an excellent series! Frank

@ToddFun 4 жыл бұрын

Glad to help. Good luck.

@weechitamex 4 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU SIR . HI QUALITY VIDEOS HERE . MOST EXCELLENT.

@andrewarmstrong3556 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, this video was helpful in reassembling my old Urgos grandfather clock movement from the 1970s.

@ToddFun Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@jimkodysz5404 8 жыл бұрын

Hi Todd, Interesting video, but the last time I worked on a clock mechanism was a mechanical kitchen timer. I removed the back and 20 or 30 gears spewed out! Needless to say I never put it back together Again! So I have great respect for anyone that works on clocks, or electronics or cars or even self surgery 😄

@ToddFun 8 жыл бұрын

HA! thanks. If it has to be done I figure it out I guess.

@johnrogers2253 3 жыл бұрын

Good work Todd a pleasure to see your work.. very encouraging

@ToddFun 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Very appreciated.

@johnrogers2253 3 жыл бұрын

Todd I watched one of your videos when you were fine tuning a drum set of chimes.... you were very humble about it... God gives us these gifts of being able to keep people's clocks going.. I pray when I pull a movement down that I won't break a pivot... I have been doing this for 25 years and have found that the nuts go on the plates when pivots are all home. I saw the movement you were doing almost same as what I have just put together this afternoon.. Bless you Todd. John

@mors123456 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Todd. That was very useful and informative. A great series of video tutorials!

@ToddFun 11 ай бұрын

You're very welcome! thanks

@ALLEYOOP77 4 жыл бұрын

Great informative video, I have been repairing and restoring clocks for over 20 plus years, and yet I learned a couple of things from you that I will try today. Ignore the critics, I find most "critic experts" don't know how to wind a clock let alone repair them. Unfortunately there are no standards or tests one must pass to go into the clock repair business, and when I get a call from a potential new customer and they are grousing about the poor job done by a higher priced competitor, I have to remind them that a good clock repair service is the solution to your problem not the cause. Yes there are poorly trained clock repairmen just like their are poorly trained doctors.

@ToddFun 4 жыл бұрын

So true many times. Thanks for the kind comments too. I get tons of people telling me I helped them with servicing their old clock without the expense of a professional visit for simple fixes but I also get questions that are clearly to technical for them to perform at their skill level so I always advice them to look up a professional horologist in their area because that is the best option for many in most cases anyway and their only real option aside from just replacing a full machinist themselves with a drop in replacement, which I also recommend if the clock is old (but after WWII) and will need a full rebuild anyway.

@mdshunk 7 жыл бұрын

Holy oil slick, Batman. Quite possibly the most over oiled clock I've seen a video on.

@ToddFun 7 жыл бұрын

No, This was just about right in the end. Yes, I did over drip a few spots but I cleaned up and re-apply the best I could. I think in the future I will get a needle applicator for better control.

@ToddFun 7 жыл бұрын

OK, Good to know. I will be doing a bushing job soon and will have it all apart again. I will clean it again and follow your tips when resembling and oiling. Any other tips would be great! You can email me too if you want to help advice me more. Then I can re-shoot the oiling video and upload it again with your improvements. Thanks. My email is my first name, R, last name at gmail, no spaces.

@williamgeorge4791 7 жыл бұрын

MDShunk h

@erzincanli 4 жыл бұрын

@@ToddFun I saw your work 3 years after and I was about to write but I saw dperry428 s answer. He is totally right. If the clock needs this much oil so we should have cleaned with oils, not solutions right. Clock will gather dust and dirt with that amount of oil with its own movements from air very easily. Trust me because I'm the third generation of a watchmaker.

@ToddFun 4 жыл бұрын

@@erzincanli thanks for the info. I might have over done it some as I said but it's still running great and seems every clean inside. Time will tell. pun. HA.

@ElliottMcCrory 6 жыл бұрын

Nice work. Thanks for sharing.

@ToddFun 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks and thank you for visiting.

@ElliottMcCrory 6 жыл бұрын

I really like your observation on the effectiveness of the commodity brake cleaner! And your "McGyvered" ultrasonic bath. Good stuff.

@michaelmich3501 7 жыл бұрын

Your video,s are fantastic. I am hoping to get my chimes running with minimal invasion. I have a Hamilton Grandfather clock I purchased in the mid 80's. It ran beautifully until I had it serviced in 2003. The professional service was very detailed and cost my insurance company around $1000.00. All oil cups and bushings were replaced, thorough cleaning etc. I moved out of state 30 days after the major surface . The clock stooped running within a month, and has sat without running since then. I have restarted the clock today and it has run for 5 hours with losing time. The problem is the chimes do not work at all. Could there be something simple to get them running again.

@privateer1839 Жыл бұрын

I have the same issue with a 1978 Howard Miller Grandfather clock (The Monarch model). Puzzling, to say the least.

@staind288 6 жыл бұрын

Hey Todd, I recently used your expertise in your videos to a fairly successful level. I appreciate the time you took to show how your process worked. Now on to my question, when I was oiling my pivot Points, the sinks kept going dry by the time I got to the end. My question is do I keep going over the pivot Points until the sinks doesn't dry out or will a couple of times be sufficient?

@ToddFun 6 жыл бұрын

One drop should be all you need in each sink. If you're using the correct oil it will stay in place. if you had disassembled the click and cleaned the pivots then two would be more than enough if it looks to be soaking in. If the clock is on it's side and the oil is too thin it might be draining through and out the back onto the arbor. Here is good clock oil: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CVZS7NY

@staind288 6 жыл бұрын

Todd Harrison thank you for your prompt reply. Yes I am using Liberty oil 100% synthetic. I only have known that because I watched your video LOL anyway, yes I had the Clock movement on its side while I applied the drop of oil. I guess I should have left it in a straight up and down position. At least I know for next time. thank you so much for your reply Todd

@mrphysh Жыл бұрын

Even years later these videos are about the best. I have the exact same Urgos movement and am having trouble getting the chime to wake up properly. At 20:53 … These little hooks are almost pressed together? And they interact with each other? I see the little corresponding barbs on the sides. I think is the origin of my problems. The wheels are spinning nicely. Help

@ToddFun Жыл бұрын

Hard to say. It could be just about anything. These clocks wear out after 30 years and need to be re-bushed to really get them back into working order. Unfortunately only a good Horologist can do such work.

@mrphysh Жыл бұрын

@@ToddFun I got it back together and back to the customer. The adjustment of the little hooks is very sensitive. You mentioned that and other sources repeated that. I enjoyed the project and your video helped. My understanding is better. The other hook catches the chime and holds it until the clock hand and the chime fall back into sync.

@1marcelfilms Жыл бұрын

I spray some HHS2000 into a small cup and use the back of a sewing needle for my clock. Everything runs very smooth now

@ToddFun Жыл бұрын

Nice!

@mikehelmer8646 6 жыл бұрын

We have a Herman Miller Clock 16 yrs old. It keeps great time. What it does when it chimes the hour sometimes it will continue chiming until the weight is down. what could it possibly be?

@ToddFun 6 жыл бұрын

Have you given it a little oil in the correct spots every 2 years? If not it must be getting stuck. Watch my oiling video and if that doesn't fix it watch my cleaning video. If that doesn't fix it then it's time to send it off to a horologist for full service which might not be cost effective for such a new clock meaning you could buy a new movement cheaper. (play list)- kzfaq.info/sun/PL40clH-yZ7flbW79e7sXZ8Ws9sJbA5zFj

@curingabettoni4310 5 жыл бұрын

muito bom video San paolo Brazil

@ToddFun 5 жыл бұрын

Seja bem-vindo. Obrigado.

@terryhilton5913 2 жыл бұрын

hi Todd I have a 9 tube Urgos Month -day-date Moon phase movement to service and get date dials set up Would be great to watch a video before I dive in It hasn't run for 20 years This movement seems quite rare Ive never seen one before I have a F W Eklliot 9 tube It works a lot differently to the Urgos month -day - date unit Any help or leads you may have appreciated Terry Australia

@fightingnoobs 2 жыл бұрын

How do I know which set of "works" is needed for my clock?

@themicrosolderingshop Жыл бұрын

Thanks for a great video! Very informative... My question is when disassembling and reassembling... do you have to get the gear teeth marked and put back together perfectly for the pin (Gear stops) to function again (Timing)? Or just reassemble and no need to mark teeth??

@ToddFun Жыл бұрын

for most gears, no, but if you have a gong clock like mine, then there is some timing to be done. And I suppose other Clocks would have a little timing issue as well. So there definitely are some things that have to be timed properly with where the gears are at and start. I’m not a professional horologist, so I don’t know all Clocks but I know mine was pretty straightforward and simple other than the starting point for the chimes.

@sooozyq 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Todd, great videos! Is there a special theory about when you use oil and when you use grease?

@ToddFun 6 жыл бұрын

Oil for pivots and just a dab of grease on moving or sliding shafts. Some say not even then unless the loading point is high pressure or faster running. One drop of oil to each pivot well, a dab of grease on the 1/4 hour chime cam and then keep the rest as dry as possible is what a lot say. However in my oil/grease video I show where to put both per my manual which was a bit more.

@sooozyq 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, Todd, luv the videos!

@sputnik4216 11 ай бұрын

I greatly appreciate your videos on this clock. Here I believe you have waaaaaaaay toooooo much oil at each station, it's going to accumulate dust. Cleaning you've done great! However, these gears move so slowly that they don't need much oil, just SOME. However, the flyplates spin fast when chiming and they do need the most oil but again, surprisingly less than one imagines.

@ToddFun 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing

@Getting_it_done 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Todd, Thanks for another great video :-) Quick question: Is there a general principle / rule which can be applied to determine whether a position on the clock requires oil versus grease? I.e. Is there an easy way to remember which points require oil and which points require grease? All the best Michael

@ToddFun 7 жыл бұрын

Bushings & pivots and oil wells around pivots get oil. Other metal on metal "with heavy loads" get grease. Grease is important on such parts because of the heave load contact points and the grease is thick enough to stick to the metal parts where as oil would drain away being the oil's surface tension is not high enough to hold it in place without a lot more metal surface contact like found in bushings & pivots and oil wells. Don't oil or grease the gear teeth with the exception of the horns on the pallet which will in turn distribute some oil on the escapement wheel teeth. Other than that if something needs grease lubrication but you can't get grease into the area then oil is the only option such as the clicks found on the ratchet wheel. I'm not a professional clock Horologist so please take my information as somebody that has research the subject a lot on line-in and in a couple of books. One safety issue I must share is; don't take apart any main springs in wind-up clocks to clean and oil unless you watch a few videos on doing so and have the correct equipment to do it safely. Thanks for stopping by.

@Getting_it_done 7 жыл бұрын

Hi :-) Thank you for your detailed and prompt response. Thank you again for the great videos :-)

@anthonyrispoli2926 7 жыл бұрын

Michael Wingrin

@bottomingoutsniper3925 4 жыл бұрын

nice video.. i do not recommend putting oil on the gear teeth unless you clean your clock every 2 years.

@lox_5017 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Todd, you didn't mention on those four bolts on how much tightening you had to do. Did you tighten them in a star pattern or what?

@ToddFun 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't do a pattern but I would say one should be careful over tightening. The first time I put the sides one I got it too tight or maybe like you say tightened out of balance as it didn't want to turn to well. I put it on the bench and backed off just a hair a corner or two and it started spinning more freely.

@lox_5017 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Todd, have another question to ask, I currently own a Howard Miller Grandfather Clock " the Duvall " and my question is this - my pendulum bob seems to wobble every swing. What causes this and can it be corrected?

@ToddFun 3 жыл бұрын

either the pendulum is hong wrong from the pendulum spring or the pendulum spring is cracked, broken or or bent or the crutch suspension rod could be bent too.

@ybairdy 5 жыл бұрын

I missed what kind of grease and what to grease and what to oil.

@karlomyduck8220 7 жыл бұрын

5 min to assemble a movement? woow! I need 1h to get everything in pleace

@pravinkansara965 7 жыл бұрын

I HAVE A SMALL ALARM CLOCK ITS PULSATING AND ITS GOING FAST ANY IDEAS

@ToddFun 7 жыл бұрын

Unplug it and put it in the trash before it burns your house down.

@Herbert04 7 жыл бұрын

this was interesting. I'm hoping to learn more about my clock. My clock is old. I can't seem to find anything on it.

@ToddFun 7 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Take some Hi-res photos of the back with good lighting and maybe I can help research any numbers. You can get me email from my about me page at toddfun.

@Herbert04 7 жыл бұрын

Actually I was doing some research. I found a guy in Merill WI that works on them. So I'm going to get a good cleaning, Some adjustments, And some learning. But I do thank you.

@clockguy2 7 жыл бұрын

the board that the movement sits on is called a seat board.

@ToddFun 7 жыл бұрын

Good to know. Thanks.

@maubunky1 Жыл бұрын

These clocks don't seem very robust, frankly. Do you have an update for us telling us how often you re-oiled it in the past 6 years, and whether or not you got tired of repeatedly having to rewind the springs and eventually just let it stop running like most people do? I was surprised to find that they aren't very accurate time keepers either. It's a cool mechanism to explore but perhaps I'd get bored after taking one apart and never use it again.

@ToddFun Жыл бұрын

I oiled at Christmas every year until about 2 years ago. We had road construction out front of my house and the equipment shook the house so much the clock stopped. I think something broke, yes anything after WWII are quite cheap being they started using thin brash plates and the pivot holes ware out quite fast. However a good horologist can drill the pivot holes out and put in nice heavy bushings which if oiled will last a lot longer. It is expensive work but worth it if you like the clock. When it was working I always enjoyed winding the click on weekends and my clock was never off by more than a minute a week at most.

@maxcurrie7296 3 жыл бұрын

I am fixing an eighteenth century grandfather clock that stops regularly at 1.35 so hope that I can learn how to lubricate it.

@ToddFun 3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't sound like an oil problem. maybe some pivot holes need to be re-bushed as they are out of round and causing the gears to cock and jam or something like that at 1:35.

@maxcurrie7296 3 жыл бұрын

Todd Harrison Thanks, I will seek expert help.

@ClockFixer 7 жыл бұрын

Just ONE drop per pivot!!!!!!!! Jeeez!!!!!

@ToddFun 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, I'm learning, Thanks. I will be cleaning and oiling this clock again once I take it apart to fix the pivots. Hold on to your hat as I'm going to try the pivot repair myself and I'm sure I'll do it wrong, but if it works that is the results I'm looking to achieve. Otherwise I'm going to order a NOS movement anyway.

@mikeberg1830 6 жыл бұрын

ClockFixer 1964 8

@ikkexd11 6 жыл бұрын

okay maybe one secret, beter underoil than overoil! over oiling will attract dust, dust will cause friction, friction will cause and you can think the picture, right? :D little more practice!

@ToddFun 6 жыл бұрын

Yes, I will try to use less oil next time, I have heard that a lot.

@ikkexd11 6 жыл бұрын

The more you do it, the better you get at it! It isn’t the worst in clocks tbh! I have seen clocks that got oiled by bicycle oil and they ran over 10years on it!

@ToddFun 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! feel free to share any of your expertise. I'll put it to good use!