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How to balance charge Lithium-ion battery pack for Ebike, RC toys...w/ a balance cable

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vuaeco

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@serenatyvfr
@serenatyvfr 5 жыл бұрын
Got to say I have learnt a lot from you concerning lithium iron batteries you have a way of explaining it so that I can understand it I’m about to attempt to make a lithium iron battery for my disabled scooter that at the moment runs onto lead acid batteries love your channel keep it coming Paul from the UK
@yeshecan7
@yeshecan7 5 жыл бұрын
hey body....you teached me things very easy way....thank you so much.....i thought this thing is very hard to understand....now i got it....i start playing with it.
@jakeaquilina505
@jakeaquilina505 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, short sweet and streaght to the point. The important information didn't get lost in any rambling. Just so I got it clear the terminals go to the positive of each series connection and the first one goes to the negative end of pack. I got a different pack built up of nese modules and am upto the point of assembling it and feel confident now that's to your vid. Keep up the good work. Got a sub from me =) Oh and my battery config is 12s7p for my E-MTB
@ElationProductions
@ElationProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for explaining this in a clear way!
@patrickjohnson1629
@patrickjohnson1629 5 жыл бұрын
You described this perfectly, Thank you
@saleemkader2126
@saleemkader2126 3 жыл бұрын
very nicely explained thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@Scrapgamegamescrap
@Scrapgamegamescrap 5 жыл бұрын
Nice battery packs and good information on the balance !
@jorgeortiz6719
@jorgeortiz6719 Жыл бұрын
Hey Sir, I need to balance a nanrobot D5+ battery. It looks like it has 7s.witch balancer charger do you recommend.🔧
@TheGrimshaw
@TheGrimshaw 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much.
@bestvideos4ever1
@bestvideos4ever1 4 жыл бұрын
good work my friend, thanks for explaination. i building my diy battery pack. subscribed
@EpTechie
@EpTechie 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, just found your channel, you're doing great 🙏
@michaeldaigle3679
@michaeldaigle3679 Жыл бұрын
At 3:57 of your video, curious to know where you got what I believe is the yellow battery casing that's unfolded and laying flat under your charger and battery. I have been looking for some but don't know what to call it so my search isn't turning up anything. Can you provide a description for the material and where you go it?
@williamwindex3890
@williamwindex3890 3 жыл бұрын
thank you wish you were my neighbor . mines 100v battery 84v controller from a car,, 3000watt hub motor. its wicked
@mashedpotatoes5323
@mashedpotatoes5323 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I'm going to make a 11s 5p or maybe a 8p for my diy electric scooter here pretty soon once I get a imax b6, some jst connectors, and something to hold the batteries in.
@danimallegs1450
@danimallegs1450 4 жыл бұрын
if you have a 16s pack or anything higher than an 8s where you "need" two 8s hobby chargers to balance, how do you connect two sets of 8 balance leads? Does the 8th series positive and 9th series negative become the "main" negative of the 2nd set of balance leads?
@alexandreesquenet3736
@alexandreesquenet3736 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed, I connected the black in - then I figured out that was wrong, I had to redo all 9 connections again ^^ (8S)
@deejay1569
@deejay1569 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question about when to recharge my lithium battery pack so as to properly extend and maintain the life of the battery? 1) what percentage is best to start recharging? Should I wait until I drain the battery to 10%? 2) for period of inactive use) say. 3weeks to several months) , what percentage should I keep the battery at so it can take the charge again when I need to use it?
@stevemcgowan3017
@stevemcgowan3017 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for that.ive just fitted a new throttle with lcd and 48v v controller prewired to my ebike and it worked fine then after a couple mile the power dropped off for a bit then came back on .maybe loose connection i got back home and up the hill had enough power and checked battery still 52v left as only went about 4mile.whats your favoured throttle and controller
@mgjr009
@mgjr009 4 жыл бұрын
Do these battery packs have to be charged at the same time or can you use one 8 cell balance charger to charge the 6s and 7s packs one at a time?
@station240
@station240 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the colour coding on the balance cables is nonsense. Dupoint jumper cables are wired in 'resistor colour code' order: black, brown, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, grey, white. Balance cables don't even try to do that, it's a mess. I've been making my own cables, so the wire colours are consistent in order and quality.
@DivineMisterAdVentures
@DivineMisterAdVentures 5 жыл бұрын
Very succinct!! 😎
@serenatyvfr
@serenatyvfr 5 жыл бұрын
I Have also bought two Opus battery chargers have you ever had a problem with the fan bearings sounding very noisy I bought one from China and one from the UK the one from China has a noisy fan bearing just wondering if it’s a common problem the Chinese company have refunded my money and tell me to keep the charger I have replaced the fan and all seems good as I said just a bit curious
@MarcoS-xe7wd
@MarcoS-xe7wd 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I am a Newbie to this hobby. Question, is it possible to put together a single 48v with one balancing lead? If so, what would be the config? Thanks.
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it is. But it'll be hard if not impossible to find a 12S balance charger. It'll be better just to use a BMS.
@MarcoS-xe7wd
@MarcoS-xe7wd 4 жыл бұрын
@@vuaeco Thanks for reply. I am thinking of making 2 packs at 24V independently can I connect both packs to make it 48v? How do you do that from the outside of the cell?
@stevemcgowan3017
@stevemcgowan3017 5 жыл бұрын
what is that 7s balancer charger I've looked before and they not cheap thats why i stock with 6s or below packs then join together an charge separately
@Eksands
@Eksands 3 жыл бұрын
What if I have a much larger battery with more than 6 in series?
@bmzaron713
@bmzaron713 3 жыл бұрын
Why are there 9 wires feeding into the charger for the 7s pack?.. Shouldn't there only be 8 wires? And dude you have the best accent... It's like asian creole
@irfanpin-2255
@irfanpin-2255 4 жыл бұрын
How many hours take to charge the battery??
@ntulsian
@ntulsian 5 жыл бұрын
What is the device that you used to the end of the video ? which displays the voltage of each terminal I.e. 6 voltages in this case. I am thinking of using it somehow in the battery packs I have to monitor the individual voltages as sometimes one or more of the parallel set of cells stop charging/discharging in sync with the others.
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 5 жыл бұрын
It's an ISDT 8S balance charger, cheapest 8S balance charger you can get on the market.
@electric_rider2044
@electric_rider2044 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Are you charging them at the SAME time or one at a time? I have a 12s battery but i only have 6s charger, i want to do the same like you did but i was wondering if i can charge them 6S and dual charging at the same time?? Thank..
@williamwindex3890
@williamwindex3890 3 жыл бұрын
mines 26s and i wonder if the have to be seperated into 6s for my 6s charger. looks like he didnt seperate his, just bent it in half 7 and 6s still conected? i gotta know
@eideticgoone7035
@eideticgoone7035 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamwindex3890 He left the 6s and 7s connected. I think he can charge at the same time because he is using two separate chargers. I worry that if one was trying to charge two parts of a connected pack with say one of those dual channel chargers, then unless the grounds on both channels were independent, you could burn out a channel because the grounds of both parts would be at substantially different voltages.
@stevemcgowan3017
@stevemcgowan3017 5 жыл бұрын
I'm trying balance with turnigy 6s charger same as yours but keeps saying cell error its 5s2p maybe a its over 18v max range for 5s.my smart battery meter works ok to balance its on now
@stevemcgowan3017
@stevemcgowan3017 5 жыл бұрын
hi.my 20v 5s2p pack made of samsung 26d cells had drained quick to 10v .it was powering the led torch like you made.i found 2 cells were dead and were causing the 2 cells joined to them to get very hot.they were connected with the vruzend kit i already had.i have a 52v kit i use on ebike works ok thats vruzend kit.havnt used the torch much.i fitted one your led voltmeter on kit but that wouldnt drain it much would it?going replace 2 cells with similar capacity
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, when a cell gets hot, it's time it's gotta go. It might also bring down any cell parallel to it. The 100V LED meter wouldn't drain that much. You can use a single 18650 to power it if you have to. I would just install a switch and turn it on when I need to then draining power would no longer be an issue.
@ahmedabubakir8827
@ahmedabubakir8827 Жыл бұрын
your battery has only positive terminal mate ?????
@lanphanh
@lanphanh 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if we could balance the batteries by just connect parallel the batteries together, so the higher one will charge the lower one to balance them. I intend to do that by using the diodes, so they will balance them automatically after use. Or we can charge them in parallel with the diodes with 4.2v power supply. Sorry, I am not an electrician!
@thediydude4110
@thediydude4110 5 жыл бұрын
What’s your recommendation for good fast Lipo chargers?
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 5 жыл бұрын
I have an Accucel 6 balance charger and it's been running for 8 years. I use it almost everyday. Besides the cooling fan which is now loud due to bad bearing (as expected because use it a lot), it has no problem. I would buy it again if I needed one more.
@harukoyama9515
@harukoyama9515 5 жыл бұрын
Do u know how many watt is the razor 100 scooter? Motor looks small.
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 5 жыл бұрын
100W? :D
@harukoyama9515
@harukoyama9515 5 жыл бұрын
@@vuaeco I am new to ebike business. In the past I used emergency computer backup battery unit to charge the scotters 6volt battery. That work. Also I used Bosch tool battery charger to charge all kinds battery by hard wiring using refg copper pipe as connector. Somehow this Bosch battery charger that come with tool know how much Volt battery should be charge. It can charge battery from 9volt to 30volt. After watched so many your video last few days. Realized you have all kinda battery charger. I don't know exactly what each one does or what you are talking about with all electrical terms. Anyway, if I just want to buy one charger, which one to buy? Recommendation?
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 5 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend a Turnigy Accucel 6. It's cheap, easy to use, durable, and it can charge all kinds of batteries from NimH, NiCad, Lead Acid, and Li-ion... And most importantly, it can balance charge. That's the one you see at the end of the video where I was charging my 6S battery pack.
@stevemcgowan3017
@stevemcgowan3017 5 жыл бұрын
also I've asked you this before when you connect balance cable my leads have 1st red lead then rest are black so you connect to 1st positive then alternative negatives.so which is right or do they both work ?
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 5 жыл бұрын
The orientation depends on how you hold your balance connector. Try like what I show in the video and compare it with your method. Don't trust the colors on the balance cable, they are all random.
@stevemcgowan3017
@stevemcgowan3017 5 жыл бұрын
yes i just checked itvaag 's video he said with flat connector facing down the negative will be on right so i changed leads over its ok
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, if the flat side faces down, the negative is on the right if the wires are away from you. If the wires are on your side and the flat side down, the negative is on the left.
@thediydude4110
@thediydude4110 5 жыл бұрын
Make a review of your isdt charger
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 5 жыл бұрын
I will once I have spent enough time on it.
@ryanthethumb
@ryanthethumb 5 жыл бұрын
I carnt understand how the balance wires work wen all the cells are conected anyway how does it only charge each cell pack then to chargers charging diffrent 6s and a 7s realy blows my mind
@magnetorsfour1612
@magnetorsfour1612 4 жыл бұрын
exactly my problem - it obviously must ballance only the group of batteries. But the batteries within the group still are unballanced. It doesnt tackle the each individual cell anyways.. so wtf ???
@kostaskollias82
@kostaskollias82 3 жыл бұрын
@@magnetorsfour1612 all cells in parallel are automatically balanced. It is a basic rule. So when balancing you only care about balancing the group of cells together
@mechimichi
@mechimichi 5 жыл бұрын
How do i balance charge my 14S/11P without splitting it in two pieces and if my bms fails to balance the cells? Anyone?
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 5 жыл бұрын
A 14S balance charger is virtually non-existent. Or if there's one, it's gonna be very expensive. You don't have to completely split your battery into 2 pieces. You can just still connect balance cables without splitting it into 2 pieces. You can do 6S and 8S and use 2 balance chargers to charge it. I did this in my previous video right before this one.
@mechimichi
@mechimichi 5 жыл бұрын
@@vuaeco Thank you for your answer and for your excelent educational videos. Thumps up for you. I saw the video you mentioned and understand how you do it. Do you think i could balance wire my pack as you did and still use my BMS which i like to have because of low voltage cut off. My cells are old and therefore out of balance. I saw this video from a dude that made his own DIY 19 cell balancer. Have you seen his video and what you think about his project?
@thediydude4110
@thediydude4110 5 жыл бұрын
should of just got a 13s bms
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 5 жыл бұрын
That would add more cost, time, and complexity to the build. Not to mention most BMS has reliability problem unless you get the expensive ones. Whatcha gonna do when your BMS breaks? That's another day wasted just to get it fixed and replaced. It's just another added component waiting to fail. Why is it so necessary when you already have a balance charger? Afraid of overdischarge? Get a volt meter. :D
@thediydude4110
@thediydude4110 5 жыл бұрын
it makes it simpler one plug to charge not 2 rc chargers thats why on my pack im running a bms but its only for charging so if it breaks I can still ride just not charge plus ill have spares.
@thediydude4110
@thediydude4110 5 жыл бұрын
@@vuaeco Bmses rule
@Pushyhog
@Pushyhog 5 жыл бұрын
I cant read that fast!
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 5 жыл бұрын
Click the pause button! :D
@joblessalex
@joblessalex 5 жыл бұрын
Are you buk lao?
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 5 жыл бұрын
Yesn't.
@ephraimmanyaka1020
@ephraimmanyaka1020 6 ай бұрын
I need your help..may i have your email
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