Thanks for the feedback! Believe it or not, that clean out was originally a 1.5” vent. I thought I needed to tie a vent in there but the inspector told me to remove it. I was left with the 1.5” stub that I converted to clean out. You live and learn. As for the Fernco, that was just an ignorance error on my part. But oddly enough, the inspector didn’t mention anything about it. Lastly, since you are a plumber, do you have a ballpark number that you would charge for a job this size? Thanks again!

I’d love to know a ballpark estimate too (high and low because I live in a ‘high’ area...) and want to know whether it’s worth it to attempt myself. 😁. (We got a permit so an inspector will check my work. 😬)

@@sheilaa1333 I received a rough in plumbing estimate for $3500 for all rough in plumbing. So after purchasing materials, you could save around 2.5-3k. But plumbers do have a lot of code knowledge etc. So it’s hard to put a price on experience. Good luck!

@@AndrewThronImprovements Thank you so much!

@@sheilaa1333 good luck with your project!

Was the plumber using gold fittings?

Good luck with your project, Yvonne!

which videos did u watch specifically that helped?

@@Eastbaypisces I'm sorry when we did that project it was some time ago I can't remember which one it was.

@@yvonne.stewart2745how did it go? Very cool you and your daughter tackled this.

@awesomerpower Thank you, sweetie. So far, we haven't tackled the other pipe as of yet. We have been working on other projects like the pantry. we guttered and did the sheet rock. it we had called a handling man who wanted to charge us 450.00 just putting up the sheet rock had nothing to do with the demolition or painting and shelfing. It came out beautiful. So next we have another project waiting to be started. A little at a time, but we're learning.

Glad it helped! Thanks for watching, Lewis 👍

haha I appreciate it, Heather! Sounds like my marketing department got to you. I need to give her a raise.

@@AndrewThronImprovements yeah ya do

That’s a good point! Appreciate the feedback. Definitely some lessons learned on this one!

For sure man its always a learning cure 11 years in this trade and still learning all the time keep up the hustle!!

@@ethanwoodfield7075 Thanks Ethan! Canadians are nicer plumbers lol check out the comments lol. Take care!

Over 30 years plumber here, also Canadian. A double wye on a horizontal is fine, you check the inlet for slope and make the branch level ( it is level on both sides ) if the inlet side gas grade then so do tge branches, 1/8 " / foot on 4" is easily achieved on a branch.

I appreciate it! Definitely a messy job, but not too bad. Good luck with your project!

It's literally not to code on so many things.

@@MrDmadness it’s not so bad that it won’t work🤷‍♂️

@@Dudjrkfjjffjkffu thats true, my primary issue here is that hes made an "instructional video " while not knowing any code. How does a guy teach if they do not know ?

It's not the most pleasant job, but someone has got to do it! Thanks for watching!

Hi! Believe it or not, I learned everything from KZfaq lol. I bought this house a couple years ago knowing nothing about home improvement. Thanks for watching!

I'm a Journeyman Glazier and did a bit of home remodeling before rhat and your tackling stuff I feel is forbidden territory!

The shower/tub has a built in vent with it. As for the toilet the way I normally do it is use a 3inch combo fitting and out of the back side go up with a 90 so I can shoot a 2in vent in the wall and out the roof. As for a sink you can stub directly up and using a a san tee add an studor vent and p trap.

Depends on your state. Kentucky requires individual vents that tie in everywhere. Some states go off international code. Some go off national code. Some go off of a state code. It's better to individual vent everything, if you ask me, but other plumbers will differ in opinion.

​@@AndrewThronImprovementsI believe it, that's why the installation has code violations. To the o.p, Individual vents are not required but are ideal but they must be taken off tge top of the trap arm in a vertical configuration ( a wye and a 45. ) they must be wye and 45 becauee they are below flood rim and so just not be T fittings. If you have a 3" branch serving the toilet its common to take a 2" why off to the lavatory ( this is a wet vent) and pick up the tub The 2" is the wet vent for the w.c and the shower then . This video shows improper plumbing

Glad it was helpful and I hope your project goes smoothly! Thanks for watching!

When I do that it vibrates the pipe a lot. Maybe cast iron doesn’t vibrate like galvanized?

That’s a good tip, thanks!

Grinder works well also

@@kelvindunn4187 agreed - thanks for watching!

Glad it helped, Todd! Thanks for watching!

Here in New York they are oakum, which is horse hair.

yea...it was pretty brutal

Thanks for watching!

@gregwhitten Thanks for the comment! I got a quote from a plumber for the full bathroom rough in (converting from a half bath to a full bath) for $3,525. I would estimate that for all of the work shown in THIS video, the cost would be around $2,500. However, I would love to get pricing feedback from viewers who are licensed plumbers. Comments welcome!

@@AndrewThronImprovements Yikes! prices probably vary depending on location and whether you hire a self-employed plumber with lower overhead. I hired a small company (3 guys) last year to replace all the old galvanized supply and drain lines in a literal crawlspace for kitchen and 1 bath. Adapted to cast iron main stack. 2 days work, licensed and inspected $3500 in Piedmont NC. Doesn't hurt to get 3 estimates :)

@@curiouscat3384 that’s not a bad price at all! The company I had take a look was definitely on the larger side. I guess that was my first mistake. And you are right! After the first quote I just shook my head and resolved to do the work myself. Thanks for watching!

It's actually not too bad! Just a bit messy at times.

Thanks for watching! Honestly, If I could do the plumbing again, I would have made a lot of changes (your suggestion likely being one). It passed inspection, but a lot of what I did was inefficient.

@@AndrewThronImprovementsdid you ever do a folllw up vid explaining this? Might be helpful and I’d bet it would get a ton of clicks. Either way, thanks for your work, it’s a good helpful vid and your responses to commenters is pure class. It’s so great when these discussions can be had, it contributes to everyone’s knowledge.

I thought about....but I figured I would “get my feet” wet with a smaller section before committing to the whole thing. In hindsight, definitely should have just knocked it all out. You live and learn. Thanks for watching!

In all honesty, this is a better question for a professional plumber. But I would for sure try to patch it with some putty (JB Weld steel stick maybe 🤔) before I would try cutting. Might need to make the more permanent switch to PVC in the future though. Thanks for watching!

It depends on where the leak is, but I've seen plumbers use molten lead to fill cracks on iron waste stacks before.

Don't use putty. Don't it right just cut a chuck out and replace it a piece of pvc and two boots

Absolutely - it's just kind of a pain to make more cuts than you absolutely need to. Thanks for watching!

You could pre-suspend a larger section with a couple ratchet straps and ease it down, I suppose. I have noodle arms so I always have to think up solutions like this.

Angle grinder also works well! Pipe snap cutter is also probably a better bet than a reciprocating saw. Thanks for watching! Appreciate the support!

@@AndrewThronImprovements I did not know snap cutters existed. I just watched a video about those, impressive. Thanks for the info!

Most inspectors want a thin ring of purple primer outside your fittings

That’s weird I love the look for some reason

@@whocares8158me too, it says the work was done and not just slapped together.

Negative. ABS is not allowed in many areas as the connections come loose and poor quality in manufacturing of the recycled-materials pipe.

That's a good idea!

Back when cast iron was installed, lead and oakum was used

They're not steel, they're made of cast iron.

I call it a "Fernco". Thanks for watching!

Had to slide a couple ferncos over 2” galv yesterday. One got horribly stuck. A tiny amount of dish soap helped in the end.

I completely agree with you! That was only my second time soldering and, in hind-sight, I should have just used CPVC. That was a lot of overhead pipe to be soldering. Thanks for Watching!

Appreciate it, man! Thanks for watching 👍

PVC Schedule 40 is the most common residential sewer pipe. ABS has been banned in many areas for use due to the connections becoming loose and defective pipe made from recycled materials.

I've had to fix more ABS then PVC

Zero leaks so far 🤞. And I agree that is would have been better to change out all the cast iron for PVC. I only replaced the 5 foot section so I could add new connections for a half bath to full bath conversion. First time doing something like this, so definitely some lessons learned for next time. Thanks for watching!

Appreciate the comment Ricky! What looks incorrect? I had a plumber inspect the finished product and I actually had the whole thing permitted in my City and got approval. Appreciate your input!

Sanitary tee can never be used in the horizontal position, moreso if it's being wet-vented. It also is basically a crown vent now because of that same horizontal positioning. The double-wye looks back-pitched on one side (toilet side, but my eyes could be deceiving me.) The proper way to install a double wye is to level it first and then glue your fittings - you pre-fabbed your fittings and the back-pitch is a common result. You mentioned inspections, I'm surprised you passed because this would not be considered compliant with either the international plumbing code or the uniform plumbing code. Are you in a state that leaves code enforcement up to local officials?

@@RickysPlums In discussions with my plumber (I’m just a DIY guy), the long sweep 90 makes it acceptable. The pipe out the back is just a clean out. Pitch was confirmed to be ok, so that might be the camera angles. I’ll definitely glue the double Wye in place next time. That’s a good point and I’ve definitely run into issues before by pre-fab gluing fittings. Nope, we use IPC. Definitely still learning the nuisances of plumbing, but this was my first attempt at a project like this. Not saying it’s perfect, just my process for doing it. Appreciate your feedback!

@@AndrewThronImprovements Plus you used the wrong Fernco fitting. That one is designed for below grade applications. You need the metal wrapped one. Also you needed a fitting for the PVC to Fernco connection. I would have used a cast iron pipe chain cutter to cut the pipe. If you want to get sewage everywhere Milwaukee makes a cast iron Sawzall blade.

@@aroundthehouseEricG Thanks for the feedback, Eric! From my product research, the Fernco I used is “rated for underground applications” Which is likely a much harsher environment than indoors. But having the extra sheathing protection is never a bad idea if you want to spend the extra money. I am not familiar with the PVC/Fernco connection fitting - so please provide information (if you would be so kind) so that others DIY’ers can know their options. Lastly, I agree that chain cutters are the “right” way to do it. But I chose to save some money and go the rough and dirty route with tools I already had. Please keep up the constructive feedback. I will try and publish all the tips/comments so that others can be aware of what I did right and what I should have done differently. Thanks!

Appreciate you sharing your opinion! However, it was hard to make out what you are trying to say in your comment. Without knowing the full arrangement or knowing the specifics of the project, I do not know if are in a position to call the work “right” or “wrong”. But I appreciate you watching and I agree that the work does look like DIY job and is not exactly the most ‘professional’ looking in terms of appearance.

Andrew Thron Improvements it just needs to be simplified

Agreed! This was best case scenario. Thanks for watching!

Totally agree haha Thanks for watching!

I agree that it definitely could have been simplified. The retrofit made it a bit tricky. Thanks for watching!

If you want to provide more insight on what exactly you see that should result in a failed inspection, it might actually help someone else out! Thanks for watching

@@AndrewThronImprovements Your toilet in not vented... That should be a 90 and not a combo fitting on your toilet... The bath tub is vented with a tee on its back which is a code violation...

@@AndrewThronImprovements Some inspectors are not licensed plumbers in many jurisdictions I have found. Will all this plumbing indeed "work"? For the most part. Buy is it code UPC code correct? No it is not.

@Jeff Legg Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! This was my biggest plumbing project to date, so it was a bit of a learning process. For the toilet, I originally had it vented where you see the stub with a cleanout cap in the video. The inspector actually told me to REMOVE the toilet vent and just cap it - like you see. This did not make a whole lot of sense to me, but I just did what he said so that it would pass. The bath tub plumbing was existing, I did not change anything with that. So it is very possible that there are issues. Thanks!

@Jeff Legg we operate under IPC - I am not sure how different UPC and IPC are. Thanks!