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Lol! I thought it was just me

Yes and keep in mind, knee dragging is a result of proper body position, speed, and lean angle.

Less angle doesn't necessarily mean that you're more safe. It does in a physical sense. But counter steering is easier and quicker in a more "conservative" riding style such as leaning in the corner. But most importantly, in a left bend, your body is next to your Moto nearer to oncoming traffic, which adds to risk. And last but not least, in a scare moment (like dirt on the road, oncoming traffic, etc) your body instinctively wants to mount back on top of the bike because there you feel like you have got more control on the bike. But that in itself puts more stress on the suspension which can be fatal. Dragging knee on a KTM 690 Duke R myself, I really enjoyed this video, but I think the safety issue is much more complex than "less lean = more safe". My advice for young riders: -learn all three cornering styles equally -drag knee only in long bends where you can see the exit of the corner at all times -left bends are more dangerous than right bends -drive through the corner beforehand to see if there gravel/oil/etc. -only start dragging knee if you already managed to get your rear tire to it's limit using lean style so you know what it feels like to be on the edge. Chalk on the tire can help you quite a bit. -ATGATT, especially when dragging knee, just as the instructor told! I can't stress this enough, my American friends! I usually don't comment much on yt videos but I felt like I needed to add this for the sake of everyone's safety, especially young riders. I'm not saying that motojuitsu is wrong, is just think that there's more to that topic. Just my two cents in the topic Cheers from Germany

@@romanreichel4807 Thankyou for the knowledge..:)

@@romanreichel4807 what are the 3 types of cornering? can you name them and let me know which videos i need to watch to learn to do them?

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Benzke 1980 That’s awesome!! Congrats!

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Awesome, keep at it!

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Sweet bike :)

Thank you 😊

That's awesome! Thank you so much! Please share with others!

Mr.Mezmerize Awesome!!!

Better to practice there and get the hang of it before going to track :)

Its Almost a week and I still can't drag my knee ur making it look too easy hahaha

Going to try it again.....after 2 years still can't drag my knee

@@solorider0078lmao I just came to this video and saw your reply

I Finally did it 🤣

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Hi! One of my next videos will be what I actually do and how I ride on the street talking about body position! Is that what you're asking me for?

Fast Eddie’s Motorcycle Fun mmm... no, my question is: In this video, you explain us that to get the knee down, we do not have to lean a lot the bike, because is safer. You also comment that the way you lean the bike in the track is much different, that you lean all the "chicken strips" with the KTM in the track. What I want to see is how you lean the bike in the parking lot with the track technique. Thanks Eddie!

Ohhhhhhh ok, I think I understand now. Well the simple answer is I just go way faster. I don't have a knee dragging in a parking lot technique then have another KTM track riding technique...I do the exact same things but the speeds are 5 times greater. Additionally, at the track, I'm in all my best gear, full leathers, my "track" gloves, etc..it's the safest place to ride....nothing to hit...amazing grip, everyone going the same direction, etc. I have a lot of videos of me at Apex Track here in Southern CA and a video of me at Chuckwalla Raceway...If you watch them, I do the same thing (get my knee down) but there are slight things I do differently that don't have anything to do with body position. For example, my trail braking and throttle are way more aggressive.

Fast Eddie’s Motorcycle Fun I also like to add up to this question that how much lean is safe on the street? I ride a zx6r and I know that there so many factors come into play when leaning like pavement condition, tires. So how much lean is good with knees gripping the tank for road riding? There are no tracks in my city in Canada, so only spots we can lean is either on and off ramps or some country roads.

Omair Khan Not what you want to hear but that’s impossible to say. How fast are you going? Faster you go the more you’ll have to lean just to make it. With proper body position you can lean the bike less. But the idea is to lean as little as possible for any corner.

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You won't "see it" because it's so subtle but yes you counter steer

sarovar subedi I have! I talked about it on How To Get Your Knee Down: Basics :)

il check it out thanks, also i hv been riding for about a month now and if a left turn comes then i usually push the left handelbar down towrds the ground to steer the bike left ... is this technique correct ?

sarovar subedi Nope! Lol I just made a video explaining counter-steering! Check it out!!

Crap... will do thanks

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I have :)

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Glad you like them!

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Thank you Sid R1...check out my other videos!! Many, many more to come too!

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Glad it was helpful! MotoJitsu.com for my app, books, etc.

For the same speed & radius yes. If you go faster through the same corner, it must lean more to make it, the idea is body position will make it lean enough to make it, but not excessively. Handlebars don't really matter...and for street riding, body position I hardly use...only time I do full body position knee dragging stuff is at the track or big open parking lots to practice.

It’s not realistic to compare what I’m doing on a street bike in a parking lot to what the best racers in the world are doing on million dollar machines on racetracks going 20 times faster.

Lol thanks!

Any clean surface.

When going fast, getting your body to the inside of the bike...going slow you counterbalance.

Makes total sense, depending on what you mean by fast and slow :)) I ride a duke 390, within speed limits so my "fast" corners are not ever more than 40 miles an hour for now (i`m a noob) I don`t think at these speeds I should be overly concerned with knee downs and such right ? Thanks for your videos btw, you are an phenomental rider man ! awesome stuff !

VickGazaYT there’s no need to knee drag on the street...there is for the track, I made a video explaining all the benefits but you can gain the benefits without sticking your knee out too.

Thanks for the replies and all the best to you :D I hope you gain some traction and do more educational videos, they are fab !

Anything over 15 mph and thats high speed

his tires look stock to me, but obviously the road's condition is most important as long as your tires aren't completely worn

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Hi, well since you already have it...buy full quality gear, take more courses, and practice. It's the same 3 things I'm hoping everyone who watches my videos and knows about me to do. Those 3 are the keys to a long riding career... Are you in CA?

Fast Eddie’s Motorcycle Fun, I'm a fan in Texas. 😊 I'm currently looking for a reliable GPS Tracker and alarm for my bike, what would you suggest?

I have some of my videos where I'm practicing doing figure 8's...going both directions! No, the rear seat doesn't dictate max lean. It's usually the footpegs or floorboards or something hard, which dictates you're getting close to max lean.

thanks for the reply. And I wish I had found your channel before I started practicing. These tips are money. So many videos with so much more viewers talking about how to get the knee down but no one ever talks about the little things like you've mentioned about lean angle going in and going out. This definitely needs to get out there

Of course! I reply back to anyone who comments. Not many mention the things I do because they don't know!! There are SO many riders who are faster than me or better than me overall; however, not too many can teach. I've been teaching in one form or another for over 15 years :) Thanks for your comment and share with other riders! I hope to slowly change the riding community from reckless to reason.

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Sweet!

Yes, instantly go to redline and drag knee, preferably in winter time. Good luck!

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you always counter steer MotoJitsu.com

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Thank you Isabelle! Scooters are very different...but the basic idea is the same.

No, it’s not...nor did it

I don't recommend worry about knee drag or body position much at all until you get really good at many other things first like using the brakes, especially the front.

@@MotoJitsu yessir! But for future reference when im ready?

ask me again in a few years.

@@MotoJitsu it will take me about maybe 3 months before im ready to put a knee down. All my bikes it takes me that long for my confidence to build even after 8 hours of practice with basic skills. on my Suzuki i spend large amounts of time of practice with advanced and basic skills every week on one of my days of. For this reason i only have a motorcycle as my only vehicle. 8 hours every week, with honestly i dont want to but at the same time i dont want to die and i am very ambitious to improve myself. FZ6 is my very first 600 i will own. Thank you man for all the vids you have posted. Your vids have helped me be a better rider. Im still a novice with one year of continuous riding.

@@MotoJitsu 😂 a few years?!?! Okay, ill come back in 5 years from now with a vid to share. Im serious, i will try to get to you skill level. Long waaaaaay to go

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Constantinos Charalambous You’re welcome!

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Jump Sa just move half butt check off, that’s it if you’re trying to do this. For street Riding, I barely move my body at all.

Fast Eddie’s Motorcycle Fun ok i ll practice that! Tks

Jump Sa awesome!

Glad it helped!

Luis Betanzos You’re welcome!!

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I'm in the same boat...I have a 09 Daytona and it sits kinda high and I still can't touch knee even when I over exaggerate everything

what? MotoJitsu.com for my app, books, etc.

Bike doesn’t matter

@@MotoJitsu yeah this just vlew my mind i was like u can probably do it on sportbike and nothing else

skill is what matters, not the bike

@@MotoJitsu agree. Thanks for replays and very informative video

All depends on your skill, the bike, etc

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Of course...no matter what course you take or book you read...there's always more to learn. I've been through 19 courses :) What does tankless knee down video mean?

@@MotoJitsu from where i am there is no courses sir Eddie. So what im doing now is slowly but surely practicing your vids in a safe environment. Im sorry for my term "tankless" i have a underbone bike and my fuel tank is under my seat. So i dnt know or how can i support my whole body doing the knee down cause i dnt have the tank in front of me to rest my other leg. Thanks 👍👍

Gotcha...yes, then there's many books to read and learn from...I have an entire playlist of the top 7 book I recommend reading..including my new book that's on my website motojitsu.com/book. I don't know...send me a picture of what your bike looks like fasteddiemotojitsu@gmail.com

@@MotoJitsu yes i will watch all of your vids sir Eddie because it really helps me to be a better rider. Yes i will send you a pic of my bike.. thanks for the time sir Eddie i really appreciate it 👍👍

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Take more courses and practice...when you get into this body position, you don't have to think anything about counter steering, it happens naturally.

@@MotoJitsu okay ,so counter steering its for speed thank you

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Chris Bulle nothing to do with steering, just pushing the bike away from you to get into the body position better :)

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Maybe a daft question ? But with loose arms and one knee out - how are you holding on? and where is your weight going ?

Anderzander weight on my toes and butt...I’m completely relaxed otherwise. My outside knee is keeping me on but no focus or pressure.

Thank you ! 😊 Fast Eddie’s Motorcycle Fun - I’ll go practice. A video on body movement and cornering technique when you are street riding would be nice 👍🏻

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MotoJitsu I’ve been telling my friends you can definitely learn without dropping the bike

I disagree.

Fast Eddie’s Motorcycle Fun wider tends to lean more for the same turn circle diameter. And for me personaly wider( not 125cc tire) feels lot smoother and more stable when leaning. Fz 06 has 50kg more than mine yzfr125 but it turn much easier with weight transfering. As 1st I always leaned too much on it as i was used to my thick tire bike.

I feel just as stable on my friends Ninja 250 bike with slim tires and my buddies Ducati with a 200 rear.

Not much to say... Warm tires = more grip than cold tires.

Before I do any knee dragging type stuff...the pressure is adjusted, I know the grip of the parking lot is good, and it’s 70+ outside. Warm ground, warm tires, more grip :)

Fast Eddie’s Motorcycle Fun exactly! just wanted to mention that - if other ppl are trying knee down exercises they do the same. warm tires with a proper pressure. Btw what pressure do you recommend/run for these drills?

Peter W I would imagine people who don’t know basic riding skills never to try this until he/she attends a course where they will learn about pressure/temperature, etc. pressure depends on many factors, but each bike has a recommended pressure for that bike. Put your bike at that pressure for 99% of your riding...if at track or doing this type of stuff, drop 2/3 lbs before hand. (Note* always adjust pressure while tires are cold and before you ride).

I have many videos explaining the benefits...but even if there were none...it’s fun! That’s reason enough.

@@MotoJitsu ok :) That's a good reason enough. I'm slowly going through your vids, lots of nice info, thanks!

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Thanks Cor nell!

I have one now.

Counter steer.

Thank you so much. That would be a great help.

Go practice...see what works best for you :)

@@MotoJitsu yeah i will. Wishing you more subscribers sir.. Im one of them.. Nice tutorials

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I do not, sorry.

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