How to make twice as much BP in one Milling

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Praetzel Projects

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4 жыл бұрын

What do you guys think, is it worth the extra time needed to boil the solution?

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@simplepyro7897
@simplepyro7897 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much I had the same idea but didn't know if it will be better and i was very lazy to test it....so you really helped me 😁
@weld_dat_fakah740
@weld_dat_fakah740 2 жыл бұрын
Great work! I like this idea for blowing out some quick lift or break powder.. I live in an extremely humid climate so usually have to bake my kno3 before milling. So it's always a pain to make large batches of bp as you can imagine..
@handrepairman
@handrepairman 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Michael-rg7mx
@Michael-rg7mx 11 ай бұрын
The commercial plant that I researched used steam and compressed air to pulverize the potassium. They weighed it dry for each batch and then turned it into what they called slurry. On the other end they ball milled the charcoal sulfur together. They weighed out enough for the batch as dust that they moved with dry hot air. The batch was mixed and then it went through a puck press. The pucks were dried before grinding.
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 11 ай бұрын
Cool info thank you
@patriot7703
@patriot7703 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Just a small suggestion...the only change I would make in demonstrations is to not torch the entire sample at once, which makes it harder to see how fast it burns. Maybe use a burn stick. But overall you did a better job than I would!
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@robertfitzkee3862
@robertfitzkee3862 10 ай бұрын
Use a Ferrarl rod or a flintlock muzzleloader pan to see a spark ignition.
@jusplars6750
@jusplars6750 Жыл бұрын
How strong are the granules? Do they turn into meal powder if you compact them hard?
@alockworkorange7296
@alockworkorange7296 4 жыл бұрын
Wow ur a smart guy, man u remind me of elemental maker. If u felt like making it id love to know more about differnt lift charges if u have any intrest/time. If not just know im loving ur channel.
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 4 жыл бұрын
Cory Sanchez thank you I’m not sure right now, I’m super busy on other projects, maybe in the future I am going to briefly cover lift charge in an upcoming video:)
@alockworkorange7296
@alockworkorange7296 4 жыл бұрын
@@PraetzelProjects breiflys more then good enough for now cant wait thanks alot man good luck with ur projects
@taurushipointenthusiast1306
@taurushipointenthusiast1306 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Idea, ability to make more with same amount of time. Tell me does it work well. Yes at end of video it ignites, How does it work launch any round balls? or other muzzle loader projectiles
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 3 жыл бұрын
Never tried it, but I would just suggest milling powder traditionally for use in guns. Corn the powder and you will get pretty good economy anyway.
@craig243ful
@craig243ful 3 жыл бұрын
i am definatly going to try that methode
@doublegg9885
@doublegg9885 Жыл бұрын
This is definitely the safest way to manufacture! But when I heat up the solution and boil it and mix it with the powder, the powder always floats on top of the liquid, and it only mixes when the temperature of the liquid drops, Can't the heater be turned off during mixing?there's no stirring the powder in your video, so did I do something wrong?
@LoGiKx805x
@LoGiKx805x 11 ай бұрын
@2:51 once the surface tension breaks... That's the powder floating you are talking about
@simplepyro7897
@simplepyro7897 3 жыл бұрын
By the was can I grind sulfur and charcoal in a coffee grinder instead of a ball mill....my ball mill isn't very stable so I don't want to use it
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 3 жыл бұрын
A mill is always better.
@courtanne2789
@courtanne2789 2 жыл бұрын
Question. I want to ball mill atomized copper powder for a painting project down to a certain micrometer along with other metals. What type of ball mill would you recommend and grinding material. I was gonna go with a thumblers tumbler but maybe there’s a better one that’s easier to open and won’t go everywhere since copper is so toxic.
@courtanne2789
@courtanne2789 2 жыл бұрын
And what type of grinding media**. Currently I am using ceramic cyplebs, I think that’s the standard
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 2 жыл бұрын
@@courtanne2789 ceramic mat do, steel could also work, don’t expect it to take a reasonable amount of time, a batch of aluminum powder that I do can take the better part of a month to get to the consistency I like.
@courtanne2789
@courtanne2789 2 жыл бұрын
@@PraetzelProjects thank you for your reply. I appreciate that it takes a while. I’ll try the steel ball grinding media.
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 2 жыл бұрын
@@courtanne2789 yep!
@courtanne2789
@courtanne2789 2 жыл бұрын
@@PraetzelProjects okay one more questions. What’s a good ball mill? I was gonna go ahead and purchase the Lortone 3A tumbler and do it that way. But I’m aware most overheat and I’m afraid of starting a fire if I leave it running for the better part of a month. I welcome your input as you seem to have a good grasp on things.
@infospot4119
@infospot4119 4 жыл бұрын
good information, enjoy your channel.
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 4 жыл бұрын
infospot 411 thank you :)
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help
@infospot4119
@infospot4119 4 жыл бұрын
@@PraetzelProjects you got it
@kristianschembri9536
@kristianschembri9536 2 жыл бұрын
Hey great vedio there 😀 , insted of making a large batch as you did can i just make around 40 g of granulated bp(to try it out before making a larger batch ) and still work ?
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 2 жыл бұрын
Sure
@cinek8951
@cinek8951 3 жыл бұрын
Will it be good for muzzleloaders without dextrin? I think for shooting muzzleloaders we should harden the granules?
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 3 жыл бұрын
Yes a pinch of dextrin will be good, preferable even.
@cinek8951
@cinek8951 3 жыл бұрын
@@PraetzelProjects I always add 1,5% of dextrin for shooting powder. I will try that method you show, it looks promising. Also milling only charcoal and sulfur is safe. Your BP is faaaast, great job!
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 3 жыл бұрын
@@cinek8951 this stuff is not nearly as fast as my new stuff. Check out my newest videos. The new stuff is no joke. This process is nice for when you are on a time crunch.
@rama3njoy
@rama3njoy 3 жыл бұрын
@@PraetzelProjects what new? i don't see anywhere in your channel? what's the tittle?
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 3 жыл бұрын
@@rama3njoy bp line test, and all the shooting videos.
@user-qi7vw5xc3z
@user-qi7vw5xc3z 8 ай бұрын
Di not forget the charcoal and sulphur ti stabilise it
@rama3njoy
@rama3njoy 3 жыл бұрын
today i make 1000gr batch, 700gr kno3 with 300gr boiling water, work perfect but little mess when granulated. this method is perfect
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! Fireworks or firearms?
@luisamezcua3183
@luisamezcua3183 2 жыл бұрын
How long did you roughly milled the charcoal and sulfur ?
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 2 жыл бұрын
Gee sorry I can’t remember bet 8 hours is probably good, any media can be used because the mix has no oxidizer.
@luisamezcua3183
@luisamezcua3183 2 жыл бұрын
@@PraetzelProjects thank you 🙏
@stuartbrown3444
@stuartbrown3444 25 күн бұрын
Nice, but how does it shoot?
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 24 күн бұрын
It’s alright, not great. The real practicality I was pursuing was to create lots of cheap meal powder in a small mill for use in fireworks. If you want to shoot with your powder I suggest doing it the right way. The channel Everything Black Powder does some good work on this.
@kentherapy7022
@kentherapy7022 5 ай бұрын
This way you will recognize almost nothing. Make 2 lines 1 meter long. And then you can measure the burning rate much more easily. And more precisely.
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 5 ай бұрын
yeah, you are definitely right
@andecaandeci1963
@andecaandeci1963 3 жыл бұрын
350 kno3 + 140 water + charcoal & sulphur??
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 3 жыл бұрын
75:15:10 nothing special Use less water than I used this time, I used a little too much.
@oliverbailliehamilton2272
@oliverbailliehamilton2272 9 ай бұрын
you cant have water at 110 degrees Celsius it would be vapour
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 9 ай бұрын
It is boiling, therefore vaporizing, but it’s not like it all turns to thin air at that temperature and you can see that I only got it to like 108. So yes and no
@robertfitzkee3862
@robertfitzkee3862 10 ай бұрын
Use a Ferraral rod or a flintlock muzzleloader with a pan to have a spark ignition. Thats what im looking for how fast is it with a spark. But impressive and good job though. Yes will it hold up when pack or will it break down to powder like in milling . Has to be strong for muzzleloaders.
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 10 ай бұрын
this is powder for fireworks. rifle powder is made differently
@rjindia9284
@rjindia9284 Жыл бұрын
Which wood charcoal...?
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects Жыл бұрын
i dont recall, but for fast black powder i recommend eastern red cedar or balsa and for visual effects pine
@LoGiKx805x
@LoGiKx805x 11 ай бұрын
6:32 "PINE.... CHARCOAL "
@cebupyro8036
@cebupyro8036 4 жыл бұрын
damn thats a decent amount of bp can make hundreds of real bullets or some good burst charge👍
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 4 жыл бұрын
Destruction Mania yeah, it’s going into shells as burst and lift :)
@s.sradon9782
@s.sradon9782 3 жыл бұрын
i wouldn't recommend loading bp into flash powder firearms, it can be done but I'd recommend backyard ballistic's video before this is attempted.
@TheWingnut58
@TheWingnut58 2 жыл бұрын
@@s.sradon9782 WTF is a flash powder firearm? If you mean a modern firearm that normally uses smokeless powder cartridges, then there is no problem whatsoever in using BP to reload with.....but I wouldn't use this half assed BP for firearms of ANY kind, the stuff the OP is making is for fireworks....
@s.sradon9782
@s.sradon9782 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWingnut58 I didn't know the distinction between flash and smokeless back then, also heard BP reloads don''t cycle properly in semi and full auto actions, also YEAH This is firework BP but with some modification would be suitable.
@TheWingnut58
@TheWingnut58 2 жыл бұрын
@@s.sradon9782 don't have a full auto so can't reply to that....but I do have several simi autos that run perfectly well with PROPER, purpose made BP. But his process would need a good bit of modification to make his "recipe" suitable for modern firearms....may work ok in muzzleloaders to some degree
@AlimUllah-ko4rg
@AlimUllah-ko4rg 6 ай бұрын
One video smokeels power
@TheWingnut58
@TheWingnut58 2 жыл бұрын
Now, if you were to have an equal amount of 90+% alcohol waiting in the freezer you could add it in immediately after everything is mixed.....you would get the benefits of having a much quicker drying time....
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, as per CIA method correct. I’m personally not a fan, plus that drives the cost comparatively out the roof.
@TheWingnut58
@TheWingnut58 2 жыл бұрын
@@PraetzelProjects if the cost of a few ounces of alcohol will "drive the cost out the roof" you're shopping in the wrong places....but whatever
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWingnut58 yeah, that is why I said comparatively, the cost of the alcohol is not that much, but when the powder costs under $2 a pound, tacking on 50-75 more cents just for a faster turn around time is not completely worth it with this method for me. I do use alcohol every once in a while depending on the application, but in the summer it is not really necessary imo.
@s.sradon9782
@s.sradon9782 3 жыл бұрын
this isn't very effective if you live in a wintry hellhole, still though it's like something i'd do.
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say I live in a warm area, just the peak of summer.
@michaelwhalen1907
@michaelwhalen1907 12 күн бұрын
contaminate right out of the gate .
@PraetzelProjects
@PraetzelProjects 12 күн бұрын
It’s hardly contaminate if I’m going to add a bunch more in a minute lol
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