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I hope that Brian and Timmy’s gameplay stays untouched because of how much they added to the experience.

“Don’t fuck it up” he says Sonic Colors Ultimate: here we go again

How to remake sonic heroes: 1. Replace tails' "leave it to me" and "WHEE!" with "Bababooey" and "woah ass ahoy"

On the voice acting thing, you have to keep in mind that Sonic is a Japanese franchise. It would most likely be made in Japanese, so options for keeping the old English cast would be reliant on them not changing or adding anything in Japanese first. And even if they did try to keep the old cast, any new lines for Tails at least would require a whole new performance because his old VA isn't 8 years old anymore, and Eggman's is dead. And if those two got updated but the rest didn't, it would be weird. A new dub is basically guaranteed, I think. And I assume they got Kate back because it meant they didn't need to redo any existing voice work and would thus be cheaper.

Praying they keep the og voice cast. Hearing the awkward and corny yet charming voice delivery from the cast is what made this game so memorable imo

The controls section is SO important. Most people don't respect the nuance and beauty of the game design at play here, and to be fair the game doesn't do the best job of explaining it, as you mentioned. SEGA likely opting to oversimplify the gameplay to appeal to a wider/casual audience with the remake would be the nail in the coffin for me.

Brian griffin sonic and Timmy in the thumbnail this is got to be the best splash dash episode edit: this was a good episode but brian and Timmy weren't in it 😢

If there’s no Knuckles _”Shit Rock!”_ I’m not buying it. Also I miss getting graded by the characters on my ranking, my favorite E rank is from Espio when he criticizes you about your training being a waste of time, my favorite A rank is Vector’s “Perfect! The work of professionals!”

It would make me happy if they decided to maybe add a new group or two as a little bonus for the remake. Even if that's next to never happening. I remember they planned to include Gama, Chaos, Fang, Bark, Bean, Metal Sonic, Mighty, and Ray as playable characters so even just three of them getting a "new game+" would be nice

I think saying that "people don't like SG because it's too fast" is oversimplifying things. For example, I don't like the controls because of their obvious lack of polish. The physics feel very slippery and inconsistent. The way there are a lot of moves that can only be used if your teammates' AI feels like collaborating. Sonic Heroes feels broken most of the time.

You forgot one crucial thing that they NEED to get right. DO. NOT. TOUCH. THE SOUNDTRACK. It's already amazing and doesn't need to go through what Colors Ultimate did. And if they have to remix the music, get *Jun Senoue* to handle it. Tomoya Ohtani, I like him, but he would replace all the kickass guitar tunes with synthesizers. Songs like Egg Fleet, Bullet Station, Egg Emperor, and especially Ocean Palace wouldn't work without Jun Senoue's incredible fretwork. Heck, the whole game wouldn't have the same vibe with a different composer. Get Jun Senoue to do it, or don't do it at all.

On the topic of Ryan voicing Sonic, he actually voiced Sonic in a fan radio show Sonic and Tails R. He sounds a little off in the first couple episodes, but by the end he sounds like heroes Sonic.

I want an Extra Boss Fight with Neo Metal Sonic, Before He Transforms. Something like the Silver Boss Fight from Sonic Generations, But Running and Jumping along the Egg Fleet Ships

it will be a 1-to-1 remake of the original and will use the current voice cast and no additional characters or additional teams, the graphic will be made in unreal engine 5

*First Impressions* is very important in conveying to the player the flow of the game. The fact that Heroes doesn’t show the hidden elements that makes the game flow better(aside from the other issues) is going to give non Sonic players frustration. And that impression is going to give that sense of “I don’t wanna do this 4 times!”, regardless if you didn’t mean to. The mentality of Sonic in playing over and over again to get better really hinges on the first impression being good.

I want metal sonics new design to appear more often. You see it like 3 times before he turns into a dragon, and none of the characters interact with it at all. They don't even acknowledge the statue in the haunted stage.

I really hated playing the same levels FOUR TIMES.

I just really hope they keep Big in Team Rose. Really love the guy and I genuinely wish he could be playable in a new main sonic game after, well, Heroes.

I think Cel Shaded graphics would look great with Heroes and the two Adventure games

LSMark and Cybershell's debate about Sonic Heroes vs SA2 actually inspired me to make my own mod that addresses the complaints from that video, alot of common ones, as well as things that are suggested in this video as improvements. It's called Sonic Heroes Adventure Story Mode Rebalanced. (i can't post the link in a comment unfortunately, but that should be enough to help find it) The changes are as follows: 1) Sonic and Dark Teams each play different stages. Team Sonic gets all the faster Act 1 stages and Team Dark gets all the harder Act 2 stages. They both get the same difficulty as eachother but I made 3 versions of the mod where it's set to Team Sonic's Stages, Team Dark's Stages, or Super Hard Mode Stages for both teams. (Super Hard Mode uses whichever layout you picked, so you can still challenge yourself to do all 14 stages together if you want) 2) Team Sonic gets a free attempt at a Special Stage Emerald instead of their Act 2 so you can more easily try to get them all without grinding them out as Team Rose, or just replay the special stages themselves from the stage select menu. 3) Team Dark's Act 1 stages are instead replaced with a quick automatic transition scene that I rigged up using ingame tools. Basically, bridging the intro cutscenes with the start of where Act 2 is for them. (With any unique dialog from the stage also integrated) I put alot of effort into this aspect getting them all to work right. 4) Team Rose's stages have been tweaked so that they're not baby easy anymore and actually have about as much challenge as Team Sonic's stages, while still maintaining the Variety aspect of playing both acts at half length, which comes out to about as long as the modified Sonic and Dark campaign stage orders! 5) Team Chaotix has had all of their stages heavily rebalanced to make completing objectives less frustrating and allow you to have more of a flow through stages, not having to memorize or look up a guide to find everything. Hints are more clear, objective placements are less obtuse, layouts have been altered in spots to improve flow where it was a little too clunky, and some missions have had the count of items reduced or increased to allow for more freedom in how you complete them and making Chaotix as enjoyable to play as the good Knuckles stages from the Adventure games. 6) Hint Rings were removed. Unique dialog still plays but the constant tutorializing isn't there. The Tutorial Stage also was tweaked to have a more natural item layout and not pause you every few steps to listen to omochao. 7) I forget how this one happened but it also has fixed Team Boss fights where they no longer navigate off of stages when you use sonic wind and you actually have to use their weaknesses and stun them like real boss fights instead of spin to win. (They would basically pick the wrong landing point as being out of bounds, which is something that never got fixed and took away any learning or challenge from the fights entirely.) They feel like actual real team fights now where as long as you're paying attention and figure out who's good against what, you can win the fights with your A ranks intact and have more fun doing it. (Also I made some accommodations to the rankings to account for skipped stages when unlocking super hard mode) Also Note: Installing "physics fix" mods or anything that does more than alter graphics/sound/video can break the mod because "physics fix" mods modify the stage files, which my mod heavily relies on to work! (Also, one oversight that i never personally verified: apparently widescreen hack might be required to make it work? if that's the case then i dunno what makes that the case.) I would be beyond honored if a more people played through it and gave it a shot, I welcome any feedback. I had alot of fun making it and, for me personally, it elevates Heroes up to Adventure Tier easily. There IS a good game there, it just needed a little bit more time in the oven to iron out the wrinkles.

Splash dash uploads at the same time Keanu gets announced as Shadow. Wild

Tbh I think Heroes should get a remake before the adventure games because it’s more simple than SA 1&2

I would make it so that the last story unlocks after at least 1 playthrough is completed and the emeralds are collected.

if sega really does remake the game then please for the love of god fix those god damn pinball physics

want to see them remix levels and add for content for each individual team. imagine if they added a night, day and sunset version of stages. would leave the game feeling fresh.

basically an LS mark friend wants Sonic Herous to be ( mostly ) faithful remake, like Super Mario RPG

Oml I've thought so much about remaking Sonic Heroes. Despite its flaws, it's my favourite modern Sonic game and it deserves an honorable comeback.

This Thumbnail is a fever dream. What if you never watched a LS Mark video?

I wonder if in that case they will make different versions of the ost for each team, like a variation of seaside hill when you play as team shadow or something like that... I honestly think with a different style of paint and skybox you cold easily disguise level repetition, and it's not something like so crazy. As an example the first Donkey Kong country had 4 jungle themed levels with little gimmicks to actually make them stand appart but they do thanks to 2 of them taking place in the day, another one with rain and the third one with a sunset

11:35 I obtained a strong belief on what this man is speaking

In terms of voice acting, I’ll bring up that Deem Bristow is no longer with us so if they wanted to do something like add a new stage or team, they could possibly end up rerecording lines I do like most of your suggestions though. I do think to placate the people who’d still complain about Sonic’s controls, maybe stick in Frontier’s control settings so everyone can be happy

I feel like they need to change the level geometry and layout for each team just keeping the theme and assets between for this to be worth doing.

They should keep the new cast but bring back Ryan as Metal Sonic, then have him say "I. AM. THE. REAL. SONIC"

Peter Griffin: "This is situation is weirder than the time brian was in sonic heroes."

Maybe if the remake happens, you can use it as a reason to talk about why This is your favorite game

1:01 Yeah, I think every sonic fan can relate to this.

I think on the topic of having to play all four stories is that a good idea to help them all feel different as well could be more like, actually noticeable and satisfying gameplay changes from character to character instead of stuff like Amy having a really slow float jump that feels like it halts all momentum and Big and Vector having a belly flop that feels way too stop and start in my opinion. A good way to make them all feel fresh and fun and unique would be to have unique abilities per character that really compliment the flow Sonic Heroes can have if you're skilled enough at the game

Before I even watch this video, the first thing I can think of that absolutely needs to be changed is the level design. Not that it's bad, mind you (although some of the levels could stand to be way shorter, seriously, no single Sonic level should take 8+ minutes to beat), just that you're playing the same levels 4 times over. The only difference is that Team Rose levels are shorter while Team Dark levels are longer, that's it. Works fine if you're only planning on playing one or two stories, but given you need to finish all 4 stories to beat the game, you're clearly meant to. Either reuse the themes but with different level designs like what Sonic Adventure did, or go all out and give each team completely unique levels like with Sonic Adventure 2. Just give us something so you're not playing the game 4 times in a row. Also, online mode for the multiplayer. Should be obvious, but please. Also, please don't make us play the tutorial every single time we play Team Rose. I get that's meant to be the baby mode, but it's really annoying, and no young child is even gonna choose Team Rose first anyways.

I feel like there’s an easy alternative to getting the last story, get all 7 chaos emeralds. That way, you could either try getting all 7 in one story, or spread out getting them through however many stories you want. Either way it’s the players choice how many times they want to play through the game to get the final boss.

I like the idea of not replacing the original voice cast but with some voice actors of that game no longer with us I'm not sure if they'd just keep the original script.

In a similar vain to how the Sonic 3 soundtrack as was before could only be reused in the case of a rom port and had to be replaced in the case of it's remaster, I would imagine similar apply to the old voice lines. In the case of this likely being a proper "remake" (internally recognized as an all new product,) depending on the nature of the original contracts the old cast or their union signed, Sega might not be legally allowed to used existing lines.

Honestly if all they change is letting the fly characters walk, I'll be satisfied

Thank you for giving sonic heroes some love, it’s my favorite sonic game of all time! 💙

Imagine if the Robot Carnival/Storm battles were repurposed as minigames and in their place were boss fights where you teamed up with the group you don't encounter

Something's i would like to see is every team if you collect the chaos emeralds with them you fight a different version of the final boss and of you defeat all the final bosses and complete super hard mode you can play as a console exclusive team basically team Nintendo, team playstation, team xbox where you play as that company character

That would be awesome!

Something tells me this probably shouldn't have been my first time learning about Sonic heroes. I have never heard of this game it's so fun to listen to people talk about games I have no knowledge of

Either only have to do 1 playthrough or give new versions of stages like atleast different paths

4:40 If this true, I find that really cool since it feels like over the years, most of the characters grew up with us lol

I really loved your video man. Sonic heroes is my favourite game of all time. I like it so badly that I think I have all the levels in my head

8:59 My favorite Nickelodeon show mentioned.

But wasn't there also a sonic adventure 1 remake rumored a couple years ago and we've heared nothing about that since

For the Dreamcast actors, I think bringing back some of the remaining original voice actors as well as some replacing them with new voice actors would work. X-Men 97 pretty much brought back most of the original cartoon voice actors for the X-Men who were still alive, but because some had passed away or retired Marvel had to replace them with newer actors. So maybe SEGA could do a similar thing by bringing back the remaining voice actors who are still alive like Ryan Drummond or David Humphrey, and just hire new actors to voice them. You could get some actors from various iterations like bringing Kate Higgins to voice Dreamcast Tails or Jim Cummings to voice Dreamcast Robotink, or you hire actors who haven’t been involved in the Sonic series, like having Grant George voiced Espio, or have Bill Faggerbake as Big the Cat. Edit: wait if you don’t like the current voice cast, than how come you said that Colleen O’Shaugnessy was your favorite Tails actor?

What’s your idea for more teams ? I’d like silver blaze and marine but they’ll probably just do mighty ray and like honey or something Edit: they’ll definitely just do an episode metal with metal sonic tails and knuckles as like a prequel campaign.

Remove the stupid constant ice psychics

All I want is for the flying characters to be independent and not in a constant flying ladder formation. Also a mode where you can mix-n-match teammates.

I mean they could just map swapping characters to the triggers which would help free up the controls

i think that i would love if it has more custcenes to make the story more choesive AND each character having different stages instead of just the same for everyone

I quickly learnt that the smoothest way to defeat enemies and get through the stages in Sonic Heroes was to upgrade the flying character to max and to then spam their attacks. I avoided characters like Sonic and Knuckles as much as I could because they were way too prone to flying off the level or getting hit when you're trying to carry those bloody Special Stage Keys. The thing I'd want them to fix the most, if they were to remake the game, are the rails segments. I hated the rails so much.

The voice of Knuckles in Sonic Heroes was my favorite in the series

To be honest if they added another team it would be cool to add team hooligans in as they were one of the scrapped teams from the games plus since they seem to be giving fang some spotlight again it be cool to see.

*SplashDash back out here with the hot takes again.* Gotta respect it 💯

I think it would be cool to just give some characters new levels entirely. Rose, Sonic and Dark all have the same levels, but chopped into different lengths, akin to difficulty options. So just... make a difficulty slider for Team Sonic and give Team Rose and Team Dark unique new levels or something. It'd be more ambitious, but it'd be cool. Like, idk, why not have the first level of Team Dark be escaping the base that Rouge found Omega and Shadow in?

I was actually thinking since Sonic movie 3 is based off of Sonic Adventure 2 maybe Adventure 1 & 2 could get remade.

As someone who has mixed feelings on Sonicc Heroes, if these remake could fix or improve upon the issues the OG game had, then I say I would be totally on board with it

Tbh, I would do some rewrites. Specially surrounding Amy and Tails. Tails slow downfall started here with him returning to his pre Adventure self. And Amy is obsessed with Sonic to the point of literally fighting him to make him surrender. I also feel they could do some bit for Shadow who’s amnesia feels all over the place.

Mark somehow barley talks about this game despite it being his favorite.

Hey SplashDash, not that I had any belief there was a chance of SH being remade but I wanna say this. I personally don't think the team is ready to remake ANY of the Adventure era games (I know they said SH is not SA3, but it's definitely functionally and SA era game). I think they need to build the next game after Frontiers first, to prove that they even understand the basic concepts of the Adventure era games, right now they have no idea and would absolutely demolish the beauty of Heroes!

I met both Ryan and Scott at my mall last month. I ask them if they would like to see a remake of Sonic heroes and they said that would pretty cool. Honestly I grew up with Sonic Heroes on the GameCube and I even got it signed by both of them. I gotta say I am hoping that a remake can the game have better psychics and just overall not a broken remake. Sonic colors Ultimate, while not a remake, still makes me worry that Sega might mess up on sonic heroes remake badly. Only time will tell.

One thing I do wanna see in a potential Heroes remake would definitely be a proper Neo Metal fight. It’s so weird that nobody ever fights him in that form, only when he’s disguised as Eggman.

I feel for most sonic games people generally try to brute force playing though the game instead of learning the controls

I don't care too much for Heroes I'll acknowledge yes I haven't played it nor have I seen anyone else play it for long periods of time, at most the first couple levels of Team Sonic's story, Heroes is definitely the most middle of the road Sonic game for me however I'd be fully down for a remake or remaster maybe

I hope that in my lifetime, we get remakes of heroes and the adventure games. Maybe even riders could make a comeback

6:50 u are probably the first person i've seen outside of the crash fanbase to explain what ppl dont like about the crash 4 design i personally think its just fine but i dont like how the series basically has the same artstyle as spyro now, and some characters like cortex and alt tawna looked far better in the concept art than in the final game

My biggest complaint is that when i was playing on ps2 i didnt mind the shittier graphics or framerate that much however my disc is so fucked that when i got to frog forrest the music cut out 😭

City escape is a better first level then seaside hill

We are getting a remake of the best 3D Sonic game? Yes please!

if only a SA2 and SA1 remake was possible...

I played the shit out of this game as a kid, so I’m just like you in that the mechanics have always just been second nature, I actually didn’t know the controls and complexity were complaints all this time

if they ever remake heroes then they better make the special stages play like how they did in gens 3ds, they were the same as heroes' but u could actually turn properly also if it doesnt have the dreamcast era voicecast then I'll just play the game with japanese voices

No new teams? But I wanna play level 3 power type Brian Griffin and Thunder shoot with Timmy Turner

I still want a new team Bring back Chaos as the power character and team him with Blaze and Silver in Speed and Flying respectively. Would be great

12:02 R.I.P Tails 😢

i’m so excited for a possible sonic heroes remake! seriously, the only way i can play this game is on gamecube (and i ain’t buying that). still surprised it’s not on steam yet.

Long as hang castle has the same tune, I'm a happy camper.

Where's Tails and Knuckles? 😨

I don't hate Rouge's current VA unless if Karen Strassman got replaced and I didn't hear about. (I saw almost nothing on Sonic Dream Team so how would I know her voice changed once again?) At least she doesn't sound like a 40 year old woman like she did in 06. Isn't she 18 according to official sources? I do know Knuckles was replaced after Forces. But as it stands, by top 3 favorite voices in the Modern era are Eggman, Tails, and Rouge. (Edit: She DID not get replaced THANK GOD)

While on the subject of modern sonics model, they need, NEED to take some notes from sonic prime if just a few. It would improve so mucb about him.

Look at Sonic and Tails R if you want to see the old VAs reprising their roles

Not Mark still trying to convert people after losing the debate to Cybershell

my only hope for any future sonic game is for Blaze the cat to get any representation at all. it pribably wont happen in a heroes remake but i need to see blaze

I just need an unleashed remake man

The character models argument is so true Sonic Heroes, along with Shadow the Hedgehog, have in my opinion, the best character models in the entire series. Yes, they may have less polygons than say, the models for Frontiers, but the problem is... they just look worse lol. They look and feel more cartoonish to me, and in turn, I feel like that leads the characters to be more expressive, rather than trying to be a mascot that could easily be pasted in every type of merchandise you can insert it in like you stated. With boring ass face expressions

i think sega *would* add another team and some bad lighting shaders but aside from that they'd keep the game the same it would probably be, like, metal sonic metal tails & metal knuckles or something uncreative like that, considering sega seems to like metal sonic a lot recently

Sonichu DLC when?

If only they remade sonic riders/zerogravity :(

mr dash please make an eggmobile ranking video

How to remake Sonic Heroes... You don't >:(

Even though Heroes isn't one of my favorite Sonic games, it's a shame we may never see a port. I would've liked if Sonic remakes could've been like Resident Evil 4, where instead of the remake being the "definitive" version of the game, it's somewhat more of a reimagining with modern mechanics and a slightly altered story, with the original still available to play. I'm not saying to make Heroes play more like the modern titles, but it would've been nice to have the older version ported and just given quality of life improvements like fixing bugs, so that the remake could be more experimental, especially if they ever want to incorporate older features like team-based combat into newer entries.