How to replace an Ariens gear box DIY

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Titliest07

Titliest07

10 жыл бұрын

different kind of video from me. hopefully its helpful

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@GNX157
@GNX157 8 ай бұрын
17:12 I didn’t look thru all the comments, but at the noted time, when you released the auger lever it took quite a bit of time to stop spinning. Ideal time is less than 2 seconds. There is an auger brake in there and a procedure in the manual for adjusting the auger linkage/brake system to both provide both good activation and stoppage when the lever is released, if you’re interested.
@steven4686
@steven4686 2 жыл бұрын
If every detail had been shown there would have been people complaining about the video being too long. I appreciated knowing Airens only did the aluminum casing for one year. I would probably never buy a brand new snowblower. I will avoid any snowblowers with aluminum gear casings. Pay a little more and purchase better quality Equipment. In the long run it saves a lot of grief Another good way to avoid ruining the gearbox is to put proper shear pins on snow blowers. Too many people want to buy a regular bolt to save a few dollars but then ruin their machine by putting hardened bolt replacements on their a equipment. Thank you for your time preparing this video. Not every video created is perfect. I usually go away learning something from everybody's videos even though they may not be totally perfect in some people's eyes. Thanks again
@petermarshall6577
@petermarshall6577 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, replacing the "old style" aluminum gear box on my 1128LE (circa 2002) with the "new" cast iron one this weekend, thanks for the video tutorial.
@1944johndeerel
@1944johndeerel 10 жыл бұрын
wow thats a pretty serious looking cast iron gear box you put onto that snowblower very nice job that snowblower will be around a very long time now
@ihart123
@ihart123 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video. It was better and more realistic than the one at RepairClinic because you showed an older machine. I just finished this Auger transmission replacement on my 7 year old ST1130DLE. One suggestion for people doing this who are not pro snow blower mechanics like you is to also buy the Impeller and a few pins. Removing the old impeller without using an expensive puller or taking a trip to a garage mechanic is near impossible. That is because the impeller rusts onto the shaft of the auger transmission. They are probably made of dissimilar metals. If they are exposed to ANY road salt they rust together and wont budge. So, the auger transmission was ~$170 and the Impeller and pins are ~$60. With the additional Impeller purchase, the whole repair can be done with a socket set and a hammer.
@indawgwetrust4255
@indawgwetrust4255 2 жыл бұрын
It's not that hard to get the whole thing apart with a little patience and a bunch of penetrating oil (or some vegetable oil mixed with acetone). No need to break anything and spend hundreds on replacements. Just apply a bunch of oil and start trying to work things apart. It won't give right away but the movement and prying will help break up the rust and let the oil work itself further down. Keep doing this for 5-10 minutes every day and after a week it should come free. I managed to fully disassemble the transmission system between the pulley and the augers on a 1976 Ariens machine that had never been taken apart. It spent 20 years on the north shore before coming to Minneapolis.
@craigerickson1910
@craigerickson1910 2 жыл бұрын
If you have plenty of money falling out of your pocket replacing those parts will work but I agree with the reply from Indawg Wetrust a month ago. Be patient and with penetrating oil and some persusion from an air hammer set on low pressure like 15-20 psi you can vibrate apart just about anything that's rusted together.
@davidimhof2400
@davidimhof2400 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I was able to get my 624e up and running again!
@Titliest07
@Titliest07 3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome
@Ocdoutdoors
@Ocdoutdoors 8 жыл бұрын
I just replaced my shaft bearing, having issue getting the two bolts on the side lined up. one is in other isn't. any tip?
@StudioRV8
@StudioRV8 4 жыл бұрын
Would mind describing in more detail how you got the shaft out with the press?
@dougsgarage1798
@dougsgarage1798 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent job !
@ScottMiller-tu3gg
@ScottMiller-tu3gg 5 жыл бұрын
Do not use an impact gun with standard sockets - they can and most likely will shatter - they make impact sockets for this! Also, use eye protection when hammering a drift (not a punch as he stated).
@Titliest07
@Titliest07 5 жыл бұрын
Done it every day for 10 years. Never broken one. I have impact sockets and use them frequently too.
@ScottMiller-tu3gg
@ScottMiller-tu3gg 5 жыл бұрын
Just saying- Your vision is precious, my son lost his vision in his left eye. It`s not worth taking a chance using sockets that are not designed for an impact gun.@@Titliest07
@scottj719
@scottj719 4 жыл бұрын
I just replaced the gear box assembly on a 24" Ariens and have an interesting problem. I have both Auger shaft brackets bolted in, no bushing in the back yet and the impeller shaft is off center coming out the back. I need to move the gear box to the right to center up the shaft but I have NO space, I'm metal to metal without clearance between the gearbox, right auger and the right auger shaft bracket. I have surplus space on the left auger. I"m wondering if the auger shaft may not be completely symmetrical and if is was built with the short side on the right instead of the left.
@bretmuldner
@bretmuldner 9 жыл бұрын
FYI, if you heat up the impeller it helps to pull off easier and when putting together sand Just until its clean metal and use LOTS of anti seize and next time some one has to pull it apart its not seized and comes off easy.
@Titliest07
@Titliest07 9 жыл бұрын
i know, its just 100x easier to get it pressed out for free
@billburns8210
@billburns8210 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for this info, bought a Pittsburgh 3 pronged puller 8", and the long screw bolt jammed in the female thread in the puller when removing Ariens auger bearing, but was able to get the piece out far enough to use another tool to finish it off, but paid $26 for tool including shipping, and it is junk, cheap 3 pronged puller!
@rabbittshunter1
@rabbittshunter1 3 жыл бұрын
Is there supposed to have play in the shaft going to the pulleys I have one and it has about a quarter inch play
@brucegebski9757
@brucegebski9757 8 жыл бұрын
About the "PRESS" you used. What is the Diameter and Length of the PVC tube? How many Pounds was the weight that slid down the PVC tube?
@jeffreycase285
@jeffreycase285 6 ай бұрын
What is the gear assembly and where did you get it
@papabits5721
@papabits5721 2 жыл бұрын
Are all the replacement gear housings the new steel type or the old style aluminum? Great video
@claytonlemottee4144
@claytonlemottee4144 6 жыл бұрын
We're did you get the gear box
@43128lucky4
@43128lucky4 10 жыл бұрын
how much is the gear vs the whole gearbox assembly
@jamesmorrell9096
@jamesmorrell9096 7 жыл бұрын
i have a old snowblower the augers are going backwards why?
@denniscremus8941
@denniscremus8941 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@boondocker7964
@boondocker7964 4 жыл бұрын
What did you charge the customer for this work?
@leadweightguy6134
@leadweightguy6134 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job! Looks like you might have replaced the old aluminum gear box with a cast iron one? If so, that was quite an upgrade. Did you have a line on one for a good price?
@CraigArndt
@CraigArndt 7 жыл бұрын
I miss my 1028, it was a beast.
@normschreck3659
@normschreck3659 5 жыл бұрын
Did you ever consider loosening the two set screws on the sheve-hub in order to remove the sheve before of using the wheel puller?
@Titliest07
@Titliest07 5 жыл бұрын
I took them out. always have. must not have shown it. These hubs come off hard a lot of times
@johnvandenburgh8771
@johnvandenburgh8771 6 жыл бұрын
It is a shame that Ariens has taken such a dive in quality, they used to be the best on the market. I use the old ones and stay up on maintenance. Easy to work on and parts are pretty available
@nbpt1000
@nbpt1000 3 жыл бұрын
try a little penetrating oil on the auger pulley hub and oil the puller threads. it will go smoother.
@l337pwnage
@l337pwnage 5 жыл бұрын
The best part of having the bolt on hub is it makes it easy to change the pulley size. ;)
@Titliest07
@Titliest07 5 жыл бұрын
I dont think youd want to
@l337pwnage
@l337pwnage 5 жыл бұрын
@@Titliest07 I did that to my old snowblower. went from a 9" to a 6". About doubled the throwing distance and pretty much eliminated any problems plugging up in wet snow. The only problem I had was that vintage blower had very tight impeller tolerances so if any rocks or anything got picked up, it would really launch them.
@hondafreak8613
@hondafreak8613 5 жыл бұрын
is that a upgraded gear box?
@brianbiehn7657
@brianbiehn7657 9 жыл бұрын
Did you open the old gear box up to see if the woodruff key was sheared?
@pinomarino8917
@pinomarino8917 3 жыл бұрын
That old gearbox used a brass gear with a roll pin. More than likely, the teeth are destroyed and Ariens does not sell parts for them since it was an embarrassment to their name.
@MisterFixItVideos
@MisterFixItVideos 7 жыл бұрын
I'm currently replacing my gearbox assembly. I would like to know if you have see any issues with using bolts instead of roll pins connecting the fan/impeller to the shaft. The roll pins were a b*tch to get out and I rather not have the same issue again in the future.
@pinomarino8917
@pinomarino8917 3 жыл бұрын
Put a little anti-seize on them next time so they don't rust.
@ekbvid
@ekbvid 9 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I have the same issue. Where did you get the nice upgraded gearbox?
@davidcandella1423
@davidcandella1423 4 жыл бұрын
Where?
@ImSrry4BeingWhite
@ImSrry4BeingWhite Жыл бұрын
Yeah where? Hmmmm
@ebcbert
@ebcbert 5 ай бұрын
followed your video to take apart an old Brute I got for free. Worked perfectly on that one too. Thanks
@turdsandwicher
@turdsandwicher 7 жыл бұрын
Is it really aluminum? All my ariens have had cast iron. How much was the new gearbox? Also do you recommend changing the gearbox oil?
@pinomarino8917
@pinomarino8917 3 жыл бұрын
Ariens only made that Aluminum gearbox for one year. It consisted of a brass gear. They realized their mistake and discontinued parts making the Cast Iron gearbox the only replacement.
@nico8587d
@nico8587d 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if that cast iron gear box will fit my 524 toro?
@TedBishop1
@TedBishop1 6 жыл бұрын
it just the gear box housing that is in fact a casting the rest is not you probably need to replace a key on the shaft.
@l337pwnage
@l337pwnage 5 жыл бұрын
They do make roll pin punches, FYI ;p
@mechanicandskills7215
@mechanicandskills7215 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video
@vidman0086
@vidman0086 10 жыл бұрын
I never get a chance to USE a snow blower.. Maybe if I buy one, it will snow down here, and I'll be able to get my money's worth out of the machine.. Nice Job on the Worm Gear Box..
@IHDieselpulling1999
@IHDieselpulling1999 10 жыл бұрын
Make more videos about your simplyscity snow blower
@CALVINLNIKONT
@CALVINLNIKONT 4 жыл бұрын
it's always preferable to call parts by their proper name such as the proper name for the fan is impeller.
@Titliest07
@Titliest07 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'll be sure to use every proper word next video for you
@craigerickson1910
@craigerickson1910 2 жыл бұрын
@@Titliest07 The Ariens factory exploded parts diagram calls that part a "fan". Who should know better what to call something than the company who makes it?
@whocares0692
@whocares0692 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad you didn't show us changing the gear box. Did you use grease or oil in it ?
@Titliest07
@Titliest07 2 жыл бұрын
Comes full of oil
@sancoffsr
@sancoffsr 10 жыл бұрын
I noticed that most Ariens now come with cast iron gear boxes.
@scottspooner6070
@scottspooner6070 4 жыл бұрын
You should upgrade to the dual belt pulleys for more power since you have it all apart.
@Titliest07
@Titliest07 4 жыл бұрын
Not my machine
@lencranston8183
@lencranston8183 5 жыл бұрын
How much and what type of oil did you put into the new gear box? I noticed that you have yet to answer any of the questions posed to you on this video as of 1/1/2019. Roll pin punches are a great invention that have been around for decades. A roll of 1" wide emery cloth beats the heck out of sand paper any day of the week. Try some PB Blaster on your rusted items and after cleaning them up, use never seize upon reassembly.
@jeffreyward4478
@jeffreyward4478 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe i missed it but really didn't see much about the "gear box" ?
@Titliest07
@Titliest07 5 жыл бұрын
Explain
@scottfirman
@scottfirman 5 жыл бұрын
Buy a USED OLDER ONE and SELL that POS. The big box store Ariens is NOT the same quality as the commercial grade you buy from a dealer. Yes you pay more, but the Professional models are NOT using the poor quality garbage they are placing in the Big box store machines. I have a friend in the business that has no problem pointing out the difference in the quality of the drive train and Auger system. He has torn a big box store one apart and the Commercial grade one sitting on the show room floor to show customers the difference. Its a CRIME that Ariens stooped to that level. I was told they actually leased out their name and the big box store ones are actually made by MTD. I havent checked on the validity of that claim, its just what I was told.
@Titliest07
@Titliest07 5 жыл бұрын
this was bought at a dealer 10-15 years ago.
@rooseveltbear8167
@rooseveltbear8167 5 жыл бұрын
Nannanananana, boy , use a grade 8 bolts and soak the shit outta it with panther pisses. Then let sire over night and then use your man muscles and a 2 pounder or 12 , which ever you can handle and heat that sob up with a torch hit that bastard with the hammer a bam , the perpeller is off the shaft . What the hell taken that set up to a press was not a man move . Gez my grandfather woulda hit it with his finger and push the shaft outta the peller. Did ya forget to put anti seize on the roll pins and shaft before returning it to the peller?! Lol kids theses days . Always rely on machines for muscle.
@williamalkins1060
@williamalkins1060 3 жыл бұрын
It's not a fan . It's an impeller
@Titliest07
@Titliest07 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I know
@CALVINLNIKONT
@CALVINLNIKONT 5 жыл бұрын
Next time, TURN OFF THE RADIO!!!
@Titliest07
@Titliest07 5 жыл бұрын
Calm down
@xavierkost9264
@xavierkost9264 Жыл бұрын
I have an Arien and they are GARBAGE
@MrTeaze45
@MrTeaze45 3 жыл бұрын
He doesn't appear to answer questions and he doesn't appear to know what the items are called what he's calling a fan is an impeller and the other part is in auger and taking apart a near new machine is fairly simple get one that's about 15 years old and trying to take it apart like that
@Titliest07
@Titliest07 3 жыл бұрын
In my area we call them fan bearings. We also use truck loads of salt. Very difficult to remove even with high heat.
@MrTeaze45
@MrTeaze45 3 жыл бұрын
@@Titliest07 look up fan for a snow blower you will find nothing it's called an impeller I work on these things fix them and repair them everyday so I know what the parts are called I live in Wisconsin and the roads are covered with salt every year so you're not telling me anything I don't know but you can call them fans all you want they're still impellers look it up
@Titliest07
@Titliest07 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrTeaze45 i know what the part is called. What I'm telling you is that WE call them something different at the major dealer i worked at. I know its an impeller. I know they are augers. Its like calling a gas engine a motor. A motor is by definition electric. People still swap the names. We all know what they mean though. It doesn't matter. Did the machine work at the end? Yes. Its been YEARS and it still works perfect.
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